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11 years ago

I prefer Bugatti Veyron, the king of speed

wish to have one in the future

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TheRealRazzy 11 years ago

There's a tesla store in a mall by my house.

It's pretty sweet. They have a couple cars in there that you can play with. Obviously you can't drive them lol
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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by magestore

I prefer Bugatti Veyron, the king of speed

wish to have one in the future

The car in OP is all about being 100% electric & getting 300 miles per charge, I think it will top out around 130mph which is plenty fast enough for the streets.

All electric cars is long overdue, considering they were first invented in the late 1800's. I'm surprised someone hasn't stepped up in the last 100 years & made this happen sooner.

Personally I'm tired of ICE vehicles, they have too many moving parts just waiting to fail.

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Kurt

11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

The car in OP is all about being 100% electric & getting 300 miles per charge, I think it will top out around 130mph which is plenty fast enough for the streets.

All electric cars is long overdue, considering they were first invented in the late 1800's. I'm surprised someone hasn't stepped up in the last 100 years & made this happen sooner.

Personally I'm tired of ICE vehicles, they have too many moving parts just waiting to fail.

Electric cars make so much more sense. No transmissions, radiators, starters, water pumps, fuel pumps, exhaust systems, mufflers, spark plugs, carburetors, fuel injectors, etc.

In the US, we need to start with delivery fleets, like the USPS and FedEx. These fleet vehicles typically drive less than 75-100 miles per day and all return to the same place, where they could be recharged at night.

The big problem right now for the consumer market is how long they take to recharge. Below are a couple of videos showing battery-swap stations which are starting to pop up in Isreal and some European countries. It takes the same time (or less) to swap batteries as it does to fill up a tank with gas, and you don't even have to leave your car.

And with battery swap stations, you don't need to buy batteries with your car, saving on the price of new electic cars.

Future Cars: Battery Swap Stations - YouTube

Here's an actual "swap"...it took less than 2 minutes:

Better Place Battery Swap Demonstration - YouTube

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Electric cars make so much more sense. No transmissions, radiators, starters, water pumps, fuel pumps, exhaust systems, mufflers, spark plugs, carburetors, fuel injectors, etc.

In the US, we need to start with delivery fleets, like the USPS and FedEx. These fleet vehicles typically drive less than 75-100 miles per day and all return to the same place, where they could be recharged at night.

The big problem right now for the consumer market is how long they take to recharge. Below are a couple of videos showing battery-swap stations which are starting to pop up in Isreal and some European countries. It takes the same time (or less) to swap batteries as it does to fill up a tank with gas, and you don't even have to leave your car.

And with battery swap stations, you don't need to buy batteries with your car, saving on the price of new electic cars.

Future Cars: Battery Swap Stations - YouTube

Here's an actual "swap"...it took less than 2 minutes:
Better Place Battery Swap Demonstration - YouTube

Truck designs like UPS would have an advantage for having electric vehicles, look how flat the roof is (image below). That entire trucks roof could easily be a solar panel, which could probably cut their energy cost by millions per year.

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Kurt

11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Truck designs like UPS would have an advantage for having electric vehicles, look how flat the roof is (image below). That entire trucks roof could easily be a solar panel, which could probably cut their energy cost by millions per year.

The bottoms of the trucks are also great for batteries. You could probably get 2-3 batteries on the bottom, especially after you remove the exhaust system, including muffler, tail pipes, catalytic converter, etc.

The locations of the fleets could be open to the public to help them get a jump start on the swap stations. Big retails stores in the SW USA, like Walmart, could use their roof space for solar panels allowing customers to get a quick 30 minute charge while they are shopping (for a fair price). This should give the cars a 5-20 mile "boost" to get them back home. It's not hard to plug in a car and certain parking spots could be reserved for recharging.

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Sumit Menon

11 years ago

That car looks hotter than Jessica Alba!

But it takes 10 hours to charge!?

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Kurt

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Sumit Menon

That car looks hotter than Jessica Alba!

But it takes 10 hours to charge!?

You can upgrade the charger to fully charge in 5 hours.

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Sumit Menon

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

You can upgrade the charger to fully charge in 5 hours.

I was thinking about the electricity it must consume if it has to charge for 10 hours normally. You'd probably end up paying more than gas.

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Kurt

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Sumit Menon

I was thinking about the electricity it must consume if it has to charge for 10 hours normally. You'd probably end up paying more than gas.

If my memory is correct, it would cost about 1/10 as much for electricity as it would paying for gas. But I'm sure there are many factors that determine the costs.

I think Tesla also has a solar panel option.

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Sumit Menon

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

If my memory is correct, it would cost about 1/10 as much for electricity as it would paying for gas. But I'm sure there are many factors that determine the costs.

I think Tesla also has a solar panel option.

Really? WOW!

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RyanEagle

11 years ago

These do look incredibly slick, but I have a feeling that a lot more needs to be worked out with electric car technology before they can be completely affordable and reliable. I think we'll be moving away from gas powered cars in our lifetime, though.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by RyanEagle

These do look incredibly slick, but I have a feeling that a lot more needs to be worked out with electric car technology before they can be completely affordable and reliable. I think we'll be moving away from gas powered cars in our lifetime, though.

They do have more work to do on that car in OP, the interior needs more work IMO. Still, they're coming down in price, starting out around $50k, down from $100K+ on the original sportster. I think the car in OP was just under $100k. Like anything new it's always expensive (overpriced) in the beginning, prices will come down as they sell more cars.

This is the color scheme I like:

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

They do have more work to do on that car in OP, the interior needs more work IMO. Still, they're coming down in price, starting out around $50k, down from $100K+ on the original sportster. I think the car in OP was just under $100k. Like anything new it's always expensive (overpriced) in the beginning, prices will come down as they sell more cars.

This is the color scheme I like:

And - it is Motor Trend's car of the year

- (but I there are a few quirks I need fixed - the center arm rest box, and no rear arm rest ??? - what's next - no cup holder? :rolleyes: - plus it went from 50k to nearly 100K for the deluxe, that was not expected...and I've been watching Tesla for awhile now...still - for a 150mi radius car, this is hard to beat - I hadn't seen the motor trend report video before now - and I was sold on the S in pre-production

(the car has very nice lines too)

and batteries can only get better at this point -

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

And - it is Motor Trend's car of the year

- (but I there are a few quirks I need fixed - the center arm rest box, and no rear arm rest ??? - what's next - no cup holder? :rolleyes: - plus it went from 50k to nearly 100K for the deluxe, that was not expected...and I've been watching Tesla for awhile now...still - for a 150mi radius car, this is hard to beat - I hadn't seen the motor trend report video before now - and I was sold on the S in pre-production

(the car has very nice lines too)

and batteries can only get better at this point -

Really I'm not sure why the cost is so much higher on the test car in the OP video, at first I thought the extra cost would mostly be from the battery upgrade, but the actual battery replacement cost isn't much different in cost.

As you can see there's only a $4k difference in battery cost, so I have no idea why the extra $50k price increase. Surely the increased motor size doesn't cost $40k as an upgrade.

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Prices are as follows:

$8,000 for the 40 kWh battery
$10,000 for the 60 kWh battery
$12,000 for the 85 kWh battery

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Really I'm not sure why the cost is so much higher on the test car in the OP video, at first I thought the extra cost would mostly be from the battery upgrade, but the actual battery replacement cost isn't much different in cost.

As you can see there's only a $4k difference in battery cost, so I have no idea why the extra $50k price increase. Surely the increased motor size doesn't cost $40k as an upgrade.

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Agreed - I don't know why either...this was to be a kick-ass 50K all electric sedan when it started (battery upgrade not-withstanding) that would compete with the 80k sedans of most - but still, a sedan that can do 0-60 in 4.? secs? With the features it has? It will still attract.

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cobwab

11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

They do have more work to do on that car in OP, the interior needs more work IMO. Still, they're coming down in price, starting out around $50k, down from $100K+ on the original sportster. I think the car in OP was just under $100k. Like anything new it's always expensive (overpriced) in the beginning, prices will come down as they sell more cars.

This is the color scheme I like:

Nice! I'd like one.

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DBracey

11 years ago

Seeing this is awesome, and this is just the beginning. I have to laugh though, each time I hear about Tesla I now think of the Oatmeal.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

One thing I defiantly don't like is the two small rear facing seats, that's a death wish IMO. Who in their right mind would put their children in those two rear seats with a rear windshield inches from their faces. That's very unsafe IMO. I thought the US Gov. outlawed those types of rear seats years ago (apparently not).

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Michael Ten

11 years ago

Tesla cars looks like great one! Nice post, Yukon.
They are too expensive for me though.
Tesla Motors is an amazing company and Elon Musk is an amazing entrepreneur.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Ten

Tesla cars looks like great one! Nice post, Yukon.
They are too expensive for me though.
Tesla Motors is an amazing company and Elon Musk is an amazing entrepreneur.

Elon Musk is defiantly a leader when it comes to business, his accomplishments are simply amazing (Paypal, Tesla, & SpaceX).

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tagiscom 11 years ago

Yep, good to see something that finally gets past gov, noses!!!

Although Tessler himself drove an entire day with an all electric car that didn't require charging!

Henry Ford and Edison weren't to crazy about it, since back then dominating the environment for profit, was the correct form of thinking!!

I am sure the founder of Tesla motors would slip in a Ho-Jo motor, so it wouldn't need charging!

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salegurus 11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Elon Musk is defiantly a leader when it comes to business, his accomplishments are simply amazing (Paypal, Tesla, & SpaceX).

And to think Elon and i used to play D&D in high school....
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- MoneyMagnetMagnate 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by salegurus
  
  And to think Elon and i used to play D&D in high school....
  
  You didn't let him win...did you? :p
  
  It's funny, I lived in Mountain View back when Paypal was starting, and I found it in a little nondescript office bldg. on Castro Street (the main st. in old downtown) - tucked away, hidden from view...
  You know the plastic white letters you buy at an office supply store that fit in the black cases in the lobby of offices? That was the only clue to it's existence - "PayPal - 2B", and you had to be buzzed in - it was probably the size of a Chiropractor's office, who shared the same bldg. Now look, the bugga's building rocketships - :rolleyes:
  
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hardraysnight

11 years ago

at the moment i am looking for something with a little more leg room

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IM Ash

11 years ago

I love the back-end of the car and the sides but the front (the main part) just does not appeal to me. I am reminded very much of the BMW Z4 here!

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MoneyMagnetMagnate 11 years ago

Originally Posted by IM Ash

I love the back-end of the car and the sides but the front (the main part) just does not appeal to me. I am reminded very much of the BMW Z4 here!

I have nothing against the grill of the Z4,(I like the Z4 personally) but I know what you may mean - I do kind of like the front though, given that the panel is solid plastic instead of an actual grill, and it creates a drag coefficient with the sealed undercarriage that is unreal...we have to remember that is a trunk, and not an engine...
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MarkLee743

11 years ago

I heard that the Tesla company is increasing price for 2013 model...

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seasoned

11 years ago

Am I the ONLY one that heard that phrase? It doesn't REALLY have a charger! They say that what they call a charger requires a "STANDARD" electric dryer circuit! It almost might as well be powered by PROPANE!

FIRST, MOST homes DON'T have one!(Most apartments and some small/old homes don't) SECOND, almost NO homes have an available one! MY home(about $300K, 2 story with basement, 2800sf, 5br, 2.5Bath ), for example, has ****ONE****! And NONE are available because, SURPRISE, I am using it for my DRYER! There IS a reason why he said DRYER circuit!

HERE is what they look like: Electric Dryer Cords And Plugs - How To Convert Electric Clothes Dryer 3-Prong To 4-Prong Cords

It is ODD that they make the point to declare it is a dryer circuit, and THEN add the word standard. Yet, it is A standard(Created given dictated specs), but it isn't standard(commonly available) at all. They are special because they have more amperage, double the voltage, and can handle more power draw.

On the BRIGHT side, maybe as many as like 1/10 of home owners MIGHT be able to unplug their dryer and plug the car in. Some garages have them for dryers and maybe bigger tools. In my home, it is in the laundry room, in the home.

Nice car, but it is still too expensive, the cells seem like a waste, and the requirement of a SPECIAL circuit is problematic.

Steve

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