Future: End of Manufacturing

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In primitive times, each family manufuctured their own tools, made their own clothes, and so on. Over time that became all outsourced with vast manufacturing and distribution systems. Now the loop may be completing to a variation of how things were in the beginning. I've come across a weird new concept: only buying designs to feed into a home "printer" that will manufacture clothes, tools, toys, and other products for you. 1st generation 3D printers are already on the market:
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    This isn't a new concept, I worked in the industry offline before I started IM.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      This isn't a new concept, I worked in the industry offline before I started IM.
      Sounds cool. What industry is this?
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        Sounds cool. What industry is this?

        I worked in CAD/CAM & prototyping for one of the largest bearing manufactures in the world. I worked mostly with carbide. Some of our clients were Harley Davidson, John Deere, Toyota, & a few contracts I can't talk about.

        The concept of 3D printing is very simple, it's all data points (numbers).

        This technology has no boundaries, it's actually came a long way since I left my offline job a few years ago. The whole industry reminds me of PCs in the 1980's, even after the 9 years I worked in this niche, the technology improves very fast.

        That video in OP is impressive because the crescent wrench can actually be used as a working tool. When I worked offline the only thing we worked with were prototypes, which were mockups for production parts. That scanning is also a huge improvement, IMO it's just as much If not more impressive than 3D printing. In the OP video, If they didn't make manual edits to that CAD/CAM data for the thumb gear on the wrench, that is mind boggling. I'm thinking they had to leave out CAD/CAM edits/cleanup to that part file (in the video).

        When I left my offline job the new industry research idea was printing human organs, I have no idea how far they've taken that idea in 2012. Like I said earlier, creating the part is all data points (numbers), the only thing that really changes is the materials.
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    Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

    In primitive times, each family manufuctured their own tools, made their own clothes, and so on. Over time that became all outsourced with vast manufacturing and distribution systems. Now the loop may be completing to a variation of how things were in the beginning. I've come across a weird new concept: only buying designs to feed into a home "printer" that will manufacture clothes, tools, toys, and other products for you. 1st generation 3D printers are already on the market:
    Amazing 3D Printer - YouTube
    Who's gonna manufacture new printers when the one you have goes belly up?
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Who's gonna manufacture new printers when the one you have goes belly up?
      You'll just have your neighbor print you a new one with his.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        You'll just have your neighbor print you a new one with his.
        Hey yeah. He could charge you for it and set up trade with other people and charge them for copies too - and ...............

        Oh. Never mind.
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
          The clincher which makes this tech so impressive is the fact that it's making objects with moving parts.

          The scanning tool must therefore be scanning via X-Ray too to capture inner working parts?
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

      will it print real money
      You know, the statements made in that video include some hype. They have *******NOT******* found a way to make cells connect with one another, and have NOT found a way to make them survive for any meaningful amount of time outside a special environment. When they do, the ENTIRE WORLD may hear about it in a couple days! IMAGINE! NO CUTS! NO GLASSES! NO TRANSPLANT problems! NO BROKEN BONES! ETC.... Ad nauseam! They have been working on that for DECADES! Perhaps even HUNDREDS of years! But I first heard about it when I was like FIVE! I am about 50 now! So the talk of artificial organs is STILL quite a ways off, though they have been claiming it was close for like 20 years or so.

      And this is NOT the end of manufacturing. The best this could do really is make parts. Not only because of size and material, but also because of moving parts, etc...

      And lets say it COULD do all this fancy stuff. It is STILL FAR from the replicators on star trek. The replicators created things at the atomic level with electricity. THIS machine is making things at the chemical or cellular level(if you believe the hype!) with materials that have chemicles or cells. Since there are conceivably BILLIONS of such things, THEY must be manufactured, etc... So manufacture is SECURE! HOW, for example, could this create a drug?

      Don't forget one of rosannes jobs. She was a PART PULLER! Pulling parts from the excess created in forming them. YES, there are REALLY such jobs! Look at how its made or made in america sometime. There are often jobs they have a PERSON doing.

      This machine is really nothing more than a CAT SCAN machine in reverse! In fact, you could call this a CAT PRINTER!

      CAT stands for Computer Assisted Tomography.

      A CAT SCAN machine uses different levels/frequencies of radiation to mad out the depths of cells at a given point, creating a picture of that layer. The computer then places the layers together to create a 3D image.

      A CAT PRINTER decomposes a 3D image into a number of layers. The printer then prints the layers with appropriate materials at various points on that layer. It then does the next picture on the next layer, and ends up with a 3D object.

      NOW, HERE is the CATCH! A CAT SCAN is not really accurate. You can't see color, have trouble determining chemical makeup, etc... Guesses are made. Likewise, this printer couldn't handle certain materials, etc... How do you handle glass as a liquid, or metal, for example? And what if you have to temper it? And CELLS? I already told you the implications. If they could get cells to bind in this printer, they could do it invitro. IMAGINE! A MAJOR DEFIGURING laceration being fixed in SECONDS in the middle of a battlefield! IMAGINE, gunshots severing a spine, and the whole thing being FIXED! Even STAR TREK claimed that was near impossible!

      HECK, my operation was only about 7 years ago and, last I saw, it is STILL state of the art. If they could take my cells and create a new heart valve, that would have been GREAT! And it SHOULD be among the easiest things to do! FAR easier than a kidney, bladder, etc... Outside of just plain skin, WHAT could be easier? Yet they haven't even done THAT! Last I knew, even less than 1 year ago, they were STILL using cadaver skin! GRANTED, they can grow a persons own skin, but that is SLOW! They usually opt to use an expander, to grow new skin the way it has been done for like 100 years. But THAT can take MONTHS! WHY!?!?!?!? I mean if this machine COULD do that, just use IT!

      Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      I think in the midst of the amazement people have forgotten one crucial factor:

      Printers are complete and utter pain in the ass.

      You'll be promised that you can print your very own Ford Shelby GT only for it to report an error that's about as informative as backwards binary in wet braille prompting you to visit PC World to buy a cartridge than cost 2.5 Billion a pop. You'll get home to install it only to discover it doesn't fit. You'll return from a second trip to PC World to install only to find out that you need to buy a separate $2.5 Billion cartridge that prints out in black otherwise the £2.5 Billion colour cartridge that you just purchased doesn't work. After several more hours of purple face perseverance you still have no car.....and no hair.

      The silver lining:
      The printer cost $30.
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      • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
        Originally Posted by Daniel Evans View Post

        I think in the midst of the amazement people have forgotten one crucial factor:

        Printers are complete and utter pain in the ass.<snip>
        It's not my inclination, but, yes, 3D printers are going there too (still in early and flawed stages of technology):

        3D printing finds a new customer... in the adult sex toy business
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
          Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

          It's not my inclination, but, yes, 3D printers are going there too (still in early and flawed stages of technology):

          3D printing finds a new customer... in the adult sex toy business
          Reminds me of a girl in school who tried to fashion a baseball bat on the lathe...
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          • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
            Originally Posted by Daniel Evans View Post

            Reminds me of a girl in school who tried to fashion a baseball bat on the lathe...
            Maybe she works in the 3D printing industry now.
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