The 2013 "What is Reality?" Thread - Are There Alternate Realities Going On Simultaneously?

I've posted this poem here a couple times. It's one of my favorites and fits the question "what is reality" pretty well.

A Dream Within A Dream

Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow-
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand-
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep- while I weep!
O God! can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?

Edgar Allan Poe

Yeah, strange, huh? BUT, to paraphrase Haley, in the sixth sense..., "I see/saw PATTERNS!"!

Yeah. Where I live, it is warmer. Though when I came here 12 years ago it was warmer. and in California, in some parts, it is colder.

I read a prediction that was stated maybe 4 years ago that a cateclism is due to happen sometime between 2012 and 2014. Maybe they were off!

I COULD say factually but some borders on politics.

YEAH, me too. as for that picture, 2 faces were VERY obvious. Maybe because they couldn't be seen as part of the tree, and then I saw about 10 others, etc... I like the two guys that are two faced! They have eyes in the back of their heads!

I used to see things in everything. Like those heads, it is usually when there is no other way to see the detail.

Well, psychiatrists have ideas about that TOO.

[steve]I didnt know how to define this sense of perpetual wonder and fascination about these kinds of things before until I read an article Daniel Evans Posted about "What is reality?"

And I guess thats how I define it- A fascination with "What reality is".

There no doubt exists in the minds of anyone who pays attention an awareness that this reality is not the only one that exists simultaneous to ours...

This is YOUR thread!

If you watch closely, there is a quirkey sense of humor within our reality... or maybe its something else who knows.

I think the article Daniel posted is an enlightened writing, and I felt it was worth its own thread, for anyone who wants to read it.

Its pretty amazing, and I would bet it would make some pretty amazing discussion.

What do you think reality is?

Who of us sees something beyond what the average person just going about their business and not paying attention?

This is fascinating, I suggest you read it if you are interested in what is beyond the veil of our reality. It may not answer any questions, but it will definitely give you something to think about!

Are their alternate realities going on simultaneously?

What do you think?

Im no scientist, I didnt even graduate from the eighth grade, Im self educated in some things, but if you know something about it from a scientific standpoint, lets hear what you think!

Im told Einstein believed in alternate realities...[/quote]

Who knows? The omniverse theory seems like an odd one. I wonder, if a normal 8yo thought it up would they give him/her a second thought? Put some degree behind it, and it is like WOW!!!!!! WHO KNEW?

Well, just this week I thought about creating my own little planet of sorts. Luckily, I don't have to worry about pressure, light(too much), gravity, creating any animals or vegetation, etc... That's already here! Cycling the water, and food for the plants is fine, but what about animals? They're going to want food faster than plants or other animals can provide it, and I want it to keep going when I'm not here. I would like it to be big, but am trying to keep it down to about 8 square meters.

Seriously, if someone has some ideas there, GREAT! It would help me, and maybe many others.

As to philup K dick, I only read some of that, but interesting. and he said KIND of what I said above! I spoke of how you can imagine something is there and what it might do because of a lack of detail. The lack of detail could be because you see only part of it, don't recognize it, or because the room is dark. HE spoke of how a dog imagined what garbage men were and what they might do because of a lack of detail. In his case the lack of communication.

Steve

I like the way Bashar explains alternative realities. You have to get used to his unusual delivery, and be open to the idea of channeled information though. If you like him, there are lots of his videos on YouTube. The movie, What the Bleep Do We Know also gets into this topic.

What the Bleep Do We Know!? & What the Bleep!? - Down the Rabbit Hole

Well. Larry I use to be an avid Abraham Hicks fan WAAAY before they were popular or before the "Secret" was ever thought of... Also sat under a channeler named Jerome at The Ashram in Calabasas County for a week years ago, which was enlightening...so I do understand channeling to some degree... Many religious folk believe they are able channel the Holy Spirit, which I hope to myself from time to time, though its probably in ways that are unbeknown to me, I dont think I consciously do it, nor that I even DO necessarily, but hope to nonetheless...

No matter what energy is being channeled, I have seen enough of it to be convinced that in many cases it is real and other worldly.

Thanks for your contribution.

First you have to ask yourself the question: What is Reality? ALL realities are alternate. Just because a misconception may be accepted by a large mass of people, does that make it real?

Ultimately, as Neil Degrasse Tyson might say, we all ultimately come from the same particles...it's just how they are arranged that makes everything look and act differently...

I think it's a rite of passage for one (see solipsism ref) or many consciousness to transcend to become a single, effective consciousness.

I know (but can't prove) that there's a neighbouring realm right next to this one we call "reality". I picture "reality" in my mind as a thick vertical band. Next to it is a thinner band of a different colour. I labelled this the "cat band". I gave it this name because I know that cats are one such creature that's a "medium" between both. They are half in reality, half in the other realm. Note the word "band" and the way I've pictured it in my mind. A "band" is a radio frequency. The realms exist in frequencies in exactly the same way. The "frequency" isn't a new analogy by any means, but the word "band" being used to describe a frequency was only just made apparent to me as obvious as it might have been!

This realm I've taken the liberty to label as the "the cat band" I'm sure is what's known as the place where things linger after death. Where people who witness OBE's accomodate and where true psychics are able to enter. It's a void point between this reality and something else, a margin, a seperator.

It's for this reason why cats are symbolic to mysticism and witchcraft and why they look at things which are seemingly nothing and run after things that aren't there as I've commented upon in another thread.

Note that before I started any kind of study, I'd sit with my girlfriend, crying with laughter at anyone who would suggest themselves to be psychic on TV. Equally, I'd shun any kind of concept that there were alternative realities with an equal measure of laughter. Now it almost pains me, that I can't prove that this kind of thing (specifically this "cat band") does exist.

Beyond this, I'm quite confident that there is another band that allows for the free flow of spirit / clairvoyancy. Tribes in the Amazon have been known to send messages to other tribes way upstream to instruct them to send down much needed supplies on boats during times of need using communication methods unknown to most.

I think there's both realities and realms within those realities.

I think the biggest question is; are you sharing the reality?

There is no way in the world of proving that the next person has an actual consciousness and therefore everything you see and everyone you meet might be a creation of your very own sandbox (your proving grounds) with everything and everything a reflection of your own personal emotions which you need to learn from and manipulate.

"Love thy neighbour"

Because the neighbour is the self?

Solipsism is a deep thing. Some say the mere thought of it is insanity but it will always stand as a viable consideration when considering reality.

I could go on all day...

Hmmm...Can we?

A universal consciousness isnt a new concept, but it certainly seems to be more conscious lately... I think you may be onto something here.

Back to Ken,

It would be hard for me to fully express my own theories here without coming across as religious, but according to religious theory, the world was formed from a "word"...or "sound", and there are examples in science of how sound vibrations cause particles to form together into shapes and how it can scultp them into various forms of matter.

Edit:

Please dont think Im trying to lead this somewhere by saying that though. I have recently found alot of archeological evidence for the things I believe, and Im interested in seeing how more scientific minds bring this all together. I think Abraham says alot of the same thing that alot of quantum physicists say, I just dont "get it" from them.



@ Daniel,

Thanks for chiming in.

Please do. You are actually making perfect sense to me. I tend to think of it that way as well.

In fact I tend to think "Ghosts" arent necessarily things of the past, but they are just a record of life held on another frequency that constantly is in play.

Like yourself I cant prove any of this, I guess thats partially the reason for this thread, to find out what proof exists, if any. Or at least what kind of scientific theories might support this.

I think everything exists on a frequency...or band like you said. There are multiple radio stations playing, although you are just tuned into one. I do believe its possible to tune into others and feel I sometimes do.

I think "intuition" is a frequency we tune into.

I believe in the spiritual realm. Elijah of the bible in a story had his eyes opened so that he could see armies in another dimension that were with him... for example.

I think of the spiritual realm as a radio frequency where other lives are existing simultaneous to ours... perhaps Im stating the obvious, but being impressed with some of our Warriors ability to assimilate the scientific theories around some of this stuff I was looking forward to hearing them.

Like yourself, I believe in a parallel universe, and it drives me crazy that there doesnt seem to be hard evidence for it.

Somehow this year that awareness has intensified, and my intuition has increased about certain things for which I have no backing. Maybe this thread is about seeking backing, as well as to find out if other people are sensing this heightened awareness lately.

On another note; yes, cats are very sensitive.

After a particularly sad ordeal recently, I woke up in the most lighthearted mood... and wondered why and tried to trace it back to some occurrence that would have caused it.

Ifelt this love and gratitude all after noon, then suddenly I got an awareness that my cat had layed next to me and actually sent me love energy all night and helped adjust my spirit.

It was weird. I knew that it came from the cat. I felt this HUGe sense of appreciation for the love in my life that day, but I was alone.

It was almost as if the cat laid up next to me and performed some kind of adjustment through the night. It literally filled me with love energy and somehow I intuitively recognized that it was the cat who did it.

People think Im flaky round here anyway Daniel I dont mind being open about these things.

Im brilliant in my own right, particularly in sales and offline, and I am confident of that...so I dont have any reservations about appearing ignorant or naive in the areas where I dont have all the answers. This kind of conversation is how we come to conclusions.

I just wish there were hard evidence to support it.

After twenty years of being a 'spiritualist", recently the Bible seems to offer hard evidence, and speaks with authority, not wishy washy... , if you confirm the bible by merit of its own words...

But that isnt hard evidence, confirming a philosophy by merit of the philosophy itself, so I have been confirming it with archeological evidence, so I would have backing for believing it is what it says it is, since its intuitively making sense to me anyway, and its amazing how much "hard" evidence I have found.

I think we are seeking to find backing for what we already know intuitively. So we wont feel crazy.

Actually Shane, one night, no meth lab- I looked into the angle of the ceiling, where the top of the wall meets it, and it sort of did a little "S" shape, like a wave, and went back to normal, like some kind of warp, as if to illustrate that these lines arent real, they are perception... it actually startled me so much that I called my brother and told him about it, who said "God is trying to show you that this physical plane isnt all there is to it and things are about to come apart at the seams and you are going to see it for the way it really is soon...". But perhaps it could be related to what you are saying. There was no doubt I saw it, unless I was just having something strange going on with my sight, which would be unlikely, or have developed a brain tumor of some sort causing me to see things...

No brain tumor Shane. I was just saying that seeing things like that makes you wonder.

Even is his most simple lay terms this guy is hard to listen to. lol

Wasnt he on crack or something?

@ Paul re: Above Einstein quote.

"Wow". Just wow.

And scientists are proving there are elements that do not even exist until we look at them.

Reality has to be based on our sensual perceptions for our time on this planet. That's what we have the senses for - to construct an orderly environment out of a collage, or chaos.

In reality, there is no matter - it is ALL just condensed energy. We - he, she, it - are all one. Each lump of energy absorbs different energies, absorbs a similar but unique perspective because it resonates differently than the next lump, which may be extremely similar while ultimately unique. As close as we, as humans, can get to "reality" is the end result of our own unique perceptions.

As far as existence - have you ever had a life altering experience? One in which you may actually feel very strongly that your body has been jolted? Some scientists hold that is a sign that the universe split. There are an infinite number of universes, which are created in response to situations that have more than one possible outcome. In Eninstein's view of time, these are happening all at once - the linear view of time is only a human illusion. Our very existence is just a cog in a machine that is exploring all possibilities.

The question is not really how does this hologram work -- it's what lies beyond it - and that, will probably never be discovered by a corporal being. I'll say again what I've said before................
I hope there's a damned good punchline on the other side because this place has ceased to be funny.

Interesting topic!

I've actually seen items deform and return to their original shape from the corner of my eyes.

I've also walked into a room and smelled a scent of something which I hadn't smelled in years. The last time this happened it reminded me of the paper mill in Pensacola Fl. back in 1982 when I was in the Navy. The smell brought back a memory of a friend of mine that I hadn't seen since then. Later that night I received a phone call from him! In the first few minutes of our conversation he asked me if I remembered the awful smell of the paper mill? I nearly fell out of my chair.

Since then I've noticed that this happens frequently. (maybe I've tapped into the Amazon Tribes Secret wave length???)

My wife can walk into a room and say things to me about stuff we haven't talked about in months but at that time I was just thinking about the stuff. This works both was with us.

A couple of years ago on a rainy day I decided to go to bed early(8:00PM). I sat down on the bed and blinked only to see sun shining in my windows and the clock read 8:01AM! I was still sitting up and have no memory of going to sleep. All I remember was sitting down on the bed. I wasn't exhausted or extremely tired.

FLASH: This just happened while I was trying to post this reply!

I lost my Internet connection thinking oh shit, I'll have to retype this post.
So I look out the window next to me and see a really pretty sunset happening. I grab my camera and walk out my front door to take a picture. I take the picture and a neighbors dog from the next street over comes walking up onto my front porch! The dog(Shelby) has escaped from it's back yard. I pick Shelby up and carry her home. Talk with the owner a minute and leave. When I arrive back home and sit at my desk my Internet connection is just coming back up!

Weird timing stuff like that happens to me all the time. No one else other than my wife on my street even knows Shelby or where she lives!

Was that a message I received that took me to the right place at the right time or what?

I believe that every thing happens for a reason and as far as Reality, I believe that we create our own Reality in the decisions we make daily. As far as alternate Realities? Yes, I believe that they exist and you have to have an open mind to see/realize they are there.

Have a Great Day!
Michael
Edited: I forgot to add the sunset picture!

Einstein sure does meet up to his reputation as a genius.

Just want to remind everybody he did believe in God.

As for all the stuff here I am so turned on to know you are all 'hallucinating' the way I always do. Yes the walls always move around = "molecular activity"

Yes - parallel universes - yesterday is today, tomorrow. It's all good and all going on at the same time which is NOW. ("be here now")

Interesting if you ever read PD Ouspensky ("In Search of the Miraculous") about the seven dimensions and how few of them we are are actually aware of. (but they are still there, regardless of if we can believe it - just like the other truths).

He was an abstract mathemetician and sought to prove the scientifically unprovable spiritual realm, collaborating with GI Gurdjieff on this book.

... and about the date and time we are @ now.

I did notice extremely that things started to change right around 12/21/12 - I suppose when all the planets aligned as was known they would by astronomers (and probably Mayans and they are turning over in their grave @ the conspiracy that they said the world would end) -

NOPE in fact it is a very AUSPICIOUS time.

I say this because several things I have been searching for answers for for quite some time suddenly became apparent to me in rapid succession right around that date.

It is a new day - totally positive - much more LIGHT! (awareness).

(however the MAYA (illusion) goes on as it always does. I am in a cycle of total aggravation and many conflicts. Everything I touch doesn't work. I have browser trouble, server trouble, health issues, and man trouble as always (some things never change).

But the light will ALWAYS overcome - and the truth will be revealed. A little at a time (because we couldn't stand it all at once).

Just like cream rises to the TOP -

WHAT conquers darkness and delusion?

LIGHT!

Got Light?

Get some.

Shines an entirely different light on Robin Williams 'joke' from the mid to late seventies;
"Reality; What a concept"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HQQ5ZgH-78


Like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning
On an ever spinning reel
Like a snowball down a mountain
Or a carnival balloon
Like a carousel that’s turning
Running rings around the moon

Like a clock whose hands are sweeping
Past the minutes of it's face
And the world is like an apple
Whirling silently in space
Like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind !

Like a tunnel that you follow
To a tunnel of it's own
Down a hollow to a cavern
Where the sun has never shone,
Like a door that keeps revolving
In a half forgotten dream,
Or the ripples from a pebble
Someone tosses in a stream

Like a clock whose hands are sweeping ....

Keys that jingle in your pocket
Words that jangle in your head
Why did summer go so quickly ?
Was it something that you said ?
Lovers walk along a shore
And leave their footprints in the sand


Is the sound of distant drumming
Just the fingers of your hand ?
Pictures hanging in a hallway
And the fragment of this song
Half remembered names and faces
But to whom do they belong ?

He: when you knew
That it was over
You were suddenly aware
That the autumn leaves were turning
To the color
Of her hair !

She: when you knew
That it was over
In the autumn of goodbyes
For a moment
You could not recall the color
Of his eyes !

Like a circle in a spiral
Like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning
On an ever spinning reel

As the images unwind
Like the circles
That you find
In the windmills of your mind !

Uhhhhhh......Hmmmmm....

Einstein's other simultaneous reality:




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