McCain picks Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin - Thoughts?

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What do you think of McCain's choice for VP?

Are Hillary supports going to vote republican just because McCain picked a woman?

Is this a big mistake by McCain due to his age and health concerns and her inexperience?

I think most people agree that Sarah Palin is not ready to be president at this point in her career.
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  • Profile picture of the author valerieSONORA
    Either way it's going to be historic- either the first black president or first female vice president. I think McCain deliberately picked a woman to catch votes from female voters and former Hillary supporters. Now if McCain won and then died and then Palin became president we'd have the first female president.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Ellis
      Very interesting pick for McCain…

      Obama's team has to be very careful about going on the attack with the "not enough experience to be President" claim with the head of their ticket being the most inexperienced candidate for president in this nation's history.

      It'll be interesting to say the least.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        I think it was a brilliant move that will pay off big-time for McCain. I don't agree with all of Palin's stands on some issues and first heard of her when she stood against other Alaska pols on funding the famous "bridge to nowhere".

        Why would Palin be any less able to be President than Obama??? She's an outsider who DIDN'T attend Yale (gasp) and has been active in state politics for 12 years and governor for two. She was an instigator in the investigations of corruption leading to Stevens downfall. To me, experience in running a State might provide training equal to being a junior senator in D.C.

        It counters many of Obama's attempts to portray himself and his wife as non-privileged or poor, etc. It also is a huge contrast to Obama's choice of VP. In the crunch, Obama went for a safe D.C. insider.

        Palin is not that well known - but she has a reputation as a scrapper just as McCain does. She's one smart woman - don't discount her too quickly.

        Her parents were teachers - her husband a union member - her son joined the army last year and goes to Iraq in two weeks.

        Her pro-life and pro-NRA stance in past years might have turned off some Democrats who can't get on the Obama train - but they take on less significance currently considering the major problems the country is facing.

        I think McCain may get a big bounce in the polls from this one. Will be interesting to watch.

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          will see what is going on ? Very good topic
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            The comments on cable are hilarious about this....

            "can she handle the 3 am phone call?" - actually that was Clinton's line, not Obama's

            The news shows don't mind saying "you shouldn't back her just because she's a woman"

            and yet every single black friend of mind is voting for Obama - because he's black and that has never once been mnetioned.

            What I am hearing on the news is this:

            "Can a person who is really 'like the rest of us' be smart enough to run this country?"

            To which I might say: "Could any one of us do any worse than bush?"


            "Can a woman really do this big job?" - to which I say - "hell, yes"


            Bottom line - if the news pundits bash her as a woman it will boost McCain. It takes away Obama's claim of "insiders" - he can't argue the other party isn't current or forward thinking. This was a well kept secret and I expect the Dems are scrambling right now for new talking points.

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            • Profile picture of the author HeySal
              I also think it was a bright move on the duffer's part. Obama has been playing race too hard - if you don't vote for me you are prejudice. The same way I see many getting over in work situations here - guilt or bigotry accusations. I don't buy it. If you suck you suck in any color or sex and I refuse to be cowtowed by guilt or intimidation. I wouldn't vote for Obama if I didn't realize he was black, pure and simple. It was the same with Hitlery - vote for her just to put in a female? I don't think so.

              We have seen black and female in power - Look at Powell - then look at Rice. Sure Rice is black - and female, but nothing but a seething little criminal beyond that. Powell earned respect and never had to even bring up his color. If it was ever even discussed, it was a side issue and not the main event because the man had enough integrity to make issues his standpoint rather than his race. When people start talking race or sex, beware - there might not be any other value to those people and it's a real strong issue to use to cover real issues that might be more problematic.

              As far as I am concerned - I am just hoping Barr is smart enough to bring in R. Paul as VP. He is the only candidate I can see not being absolutely frightening in this whole fiasco.
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                • Profile picture of the author ConcordeWarrior
                  Mc-bama and Pali-den It's all the same.
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                  • Profile picture of the author James Liberty
                    I'm thankful that there is finally a prominent female politician who I can throw my full support behind... and a role model to whom young women in our country can look up to and emulate.
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                    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                      The more I find out about Palin the more this looks like another example of bad judgement by McCain. Look at this video which was uploaded to youtube just a couple weeks ago by a local tv station in Alaska. It's pretty revealing and shows that this so called "scandal" about her is alive. I wonder how close McCain looked into this. If at all. Did they even see this video?

                      At the end of the video they talk about a poll asking whether viewers thought Palin was telling the truth about the firing of the commissioner. Amazingly, over 85% of the people, Alaskans, said they thought she was lying! They even mention a hotline for tips in case anyone has any information on this case.


                      If McCain wanted to have a woman as a VP candidate there were others available in the GOP, who have more experience and are much less risky: Christine Todd Whitman, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Elizabeth Dole, Susan Collins, Carly Fiorina etc... But he picks someone with less than two years experience as a Governer of a small state ( population wise ) and one who in that short time is already in the middle of a "scandal". Amazing. Reckless really.

                      Now, going into the GOP convention, they will not be able to pound Obama for inexperience, will still be trying to answer questions on whether she herself is experienced enough and also trying to explain her views on a ton of issues that nobody has the slightest idea what the answers are, including her. She actually has said she hasn't thought much about the Iraq war.

                      As an Obama supporter I thought the best VP choice for McCain was Romney. He is first of all an attack dog who is very effective in going after Obama, experienced as a Governer, experienced as a businessman, proven as a campaigner and would have been the toughest opponent for the Obama campaign.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Michael Ellis
                        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                        As an Obama supporter I thought the best VP choice for McCain was Romney. He is first of all an attack dog who is very effective in going after Obama, experienced as a Governer, experienced as a businessman, proven as a campaigner and would have been the toughest opponent for the Obama campaign.
                        C'mon Tim, if Romney were the pick what Youtube videos would we be seeing from you in these threads? I know you already had them picked!

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                      • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
                        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                        The more I find out about Palin the more this looks like another example of bad judgement by McCain. Look at this video which was uploaded to youtube just a couple weeks ago by a local tv station in Alaska. It's pretty revealing and shows that this so called "scandal" about her is alive. I wonder how close McCain looked into this. If at all. Did they even see this video?

                        At the end of the video they talk about a poll asking whether viewers thought Palin was telling the truth about the firing of the commissioner. Amazingly, over 85% of the people, Alaskans, said they thought she was lying! They even mention a hotline for tips in case anyone has any information on this case.

                        YouTube - Governor & staff's latest explanations leave more questions

                        If McCain wanted to have a woman as a VP candidate there were others available in the GOP, who have more experience and are much less risky: Christine Todd Whitman, Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Elizabeth Dole, Susan Collins, Carly Fiorina etc... But he picks someone with less than two years experience as a Governer of a small state ( population wise ) and one who in that short time is already in the middle of a "scandal". Amazing. Reckless really.

                        Now, going into the GOP convention, they will not be able to pound Obama for inexperience, will still be trying to answer questions on whether she herself is experienced enough and also trying to explain her views on a ton of issues that nobody has the slightest idea what the answers are, including her. She actually has said she hasn't thought much about the Iraq war.

                        As an Obama supporter I thought the best VP choice for McCain was Romney. He is first of all an attack dog who is very effective in going after Obama, experienced as a Governer, experienced as a businessman, proven as a campaigner and would have been the toughest opponent for the Obama campaign.
                        You are 100% correct. McCain's bad judgment is scary. He met Palin once and looked into her eyes and knew that she would make a good leader. Do you remember GWBush looking into the eyes of Putin and seeing his soul and knew that he could trust him?
                        What a joke. More of the same.
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                        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                          Originally Posted by logocheckout View Post

                          You are 100% correct. McCain's bad judgment is scary. He met Palin once and looked into her eyes and knew that she would make a good leader. Do you remember GWBush looking into the eyes of Putin and seeing his soul and knew that he could trust him?
                          What a joke. More of the same.
                          Yeh, that's the scary thing. There are so many similarities between McCain and Bush.

                          One good thing about Palin is she ennacted a windfall tax against the oil companies in Alaska. Just like Obama's plan. How will she explain that since McCain is against Obama's plan? Will she flip or will McCain flip again?

                          The debates with Biden should be interesting to say the least. She has 1 month to prepare for every possible domestic and foreign policy topic. Right now, she admits she hasn't even thought about Iraq much. If she even messes up on one or two answers in that debate she can look bad. How will she answer this question: "You have stated that you are against abortion even in cases of rape and incest. How do you expect to get Hillary Clinton voters with a stance like this?"

                          Actually she doesn't even have one month to prepare. I'm sure she will be doing interviews before that. If she pulls it off I will tip my hat to her and to McCain. To me is a reckless pick though and an insight into McCains decision making process.
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                          • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
                            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                            Yeh, that's the scary thing. There are so many similarities between McCain and Bush.

                            One good thing about Palin is she ennacted a windfall tax against the oil companies in Alaska. Just like Obama's plan. How will she explain that since McCain is against Obama's plan? Will she flip or will McCain flip again?

                            The debates with Biden should be interesting to say the least. She has 1 month to prepare for every possible domestic and foreign policy topic. Right now, she admits she hasn't even thought about Iraq much. If she even messes up on one or two answers in that debate she can look bad. How will she answer this question: "You have stated that you are against abortion even in cases of rape and incest. How do you expect to get Hillary Clinton voters with a stance like this?"

                            Actually she doesn't even have one month to prepare. I'm sure she will be doing interviews before that. If she pulls it off I will tip my hat to her and to McCain. To me is a reckless pick though and an insight into McCains decision making process.
                            Thanks for capsulizing my thoughts.

                            I do expect her to do well. She is a trained journalist.

                            What is good about this pick is that it took away from the table the experience discussions. It took away from the table "not well known".

                            It is almost like John McCain wants Obama to win because he is angry at his party. Either way, history has been made on both sides. It is now up to American citizens to decide whom they wish to lead them.

                            The people running on both sides appear to be very good people as individuals. I hope that finally we will be able to discuss issues instead of personal attacks because we have a balance on both sides.

                            Thanks for weighing in.
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                          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                            Lame. I see a mass hallucination. Going on your head, Indy.

                            There goes the thread.

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                            "GET YOUR TUTTI FRUITTI ICE CREAMS HERE!"...

                            Q: "What are doing Indiana,"

                            A: "Just making a little tax free income while the crowd is mobbed up"

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                            Q: "What is your opinion of a woman standing for the Vice president in the forth coming election?"

                            A: "Election? Election? What election? Ohh... You must mean the mass hallucination...Ha ha ha...Here put these sun glasses on, I bought a whole truckload when I escaped from LA -O)...

                            Q:...OMG...WTF...Whats happening???

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                            • Profile picture of the author DougBarger
                              I think black Americans are far too intelligent to vote for Obama on the basis of his skin color and

                              that Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King would have voted for McCain too based on the content of his character revealed with the fact that

                              McCain answered "Life begins at conception" when asked by the minister...a position that Obama sadly can't say he believes for some reason.
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                              • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
                                Some details on the Palin "scandal" (as Tim puts it...)

                                Palin staff pushed to have trooper fired: Walt Monegan | adn.com
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                              • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
                                Originally Posted by DougBarger View Post

                                I think black Americans are far too intelligent to vote for Obama on the basis of his skin color and

                                that Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King would have voted for McCain too based on the content of his character revealed with the fact that

                                McCain answered "Life begins at conception" when asked by the minister...a position that Obama sadly can't say he believes for some reason.
                                It is good to say that you do not know the answer to a question than to claim that you know God. The excuse that McCain gave by answering the question that life begins at conception is because the bible stated that God knew us in the womb. If God knew us in the womb, have we become God? Does the fetus have the same meaning of life as those of us that are here on this earth? Does God think the same way that we think? Do we think the same way as God? Does the fetus belong to God? If God is the one that knows this fetus in the womb, then render to God what belongs to God. Until that child is born, that is when it becomes alive on this earth otherwise this fetus is only known by God, and God knows from the beginning to the end what will become of that fetus and not us.

                                God specifically stated that His thoughts are different from our thoughts. Obama is more honest and accurate when he states honestly that it is above his pay grade. That is a thoughtful answer because he does not know and he responded honestly.
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              • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
                Originally Posted by HeySal View Post


                As far as I am concerned - I am just hoping Barr is smart enough to bring in R. Paul as VP. He is the only candidate I can see not being absolutely frightening in this whole fiasco.
                I think the independents are having their own convention on September 8, 2008.

                It may be a good idea to contact Barr and make that suggestion.
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            • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              and yet every single black friend of mind is voting for Obama - because he's black and that has never once been mnetioned.

              kay
              playing the race card. Not only blacks are voting for Obama.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          Is this a big mistake by McCain due to his age and health concerns and her inexperience?
          Perhaps. What this does is take McCain's most effective arguement against Obama off the table. McCain has been hammering Obama about inexperience for months. He can't really keep using this arguement now.

          It's an interesting choice. She brings plusses and minuses. One minus is that she's already being investigated for abuse of power by the Alaska Legislature. This may affect her ability to promote herself as a reformer, which is one of her main plusses.
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        • Profile picture of the author ECS Dave
          I'm still leaning strongly towards N.O.T.A. - but this "event" does have some "pull", as it were,
          towards actually giving me a reason to "consent" to being "led" by the McCain team...

          I'm a union member (Teamster), and I'm a bit curious as to what the Hoffa administration will
          say about this. For those that don't know, the Teamster Union has endorsed Obama...

          Be Well!
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    • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
      Does her inexperience not matter any more?

      Should McCain stop claiming Obama's inexperience.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        The media picked Obama as the ringer a long time ago and that should tell us it was already decided for us...again...still. That might be why an unacceptable choice was made by McCain - more show than substance. I don't think we're choosing this election either even if there was dead heat placed on the corruption of the diebolt machines.
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    • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
      Originally Posted by annoyedgirl View Post

      Either way it's going to be historic- either the first black president or first female vice president. I think McCain deliberately picked a woman to catch votes from female voters and former Hillary supporters. Now if McCain won and then died and then Palin became president we'd have the first female president.
      She knows how to shoot. She will take McCain hunting and the rest will be history. Another Dick Cheney in training? This time she will shoot right.
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    I'm still voting for Chuck Baldwin. I'm not comfortable with either candidate. I am familiar with Sarah Palin and she's an excellent choice, but HE's NOT!

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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      You are 100% correct. McCain's bad judgment is scary. He met Palin once and looked into her eyes and knew that she would make a good leader.
      He knew hell - one look at her and it was the wrong head that made the decision. If he'd get all that seminal fluid out of his brain his neurons might just start functioning properly again.
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      • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        He knew hell - one look at her and it was the wrong head that made the decision. If he'd get all that seminal fluid out of his brain his neurons might just start functioning properly again.
        I thought about that. I tried my best not to go there, but thanks for having the guts to spell it out completely.

        You cannot blame McCain's head. She is beautiful.
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    She is a lot more ready to be president than Obammie is.
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    • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
      Originally Posted by jfbowles View Post

      She is a lot more ready to be president than Obammie is.
      I disagree. Obama has many years experience as a community organizer; 8 years as a state legislator, and 4 years as a national legislature.

      Palin does not have more experience than Obama.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        All this talk - obama mccain Obama McCain Obamanation McCaint

        Are the only candidates people are familiar with in this election the media's approved candidates? Doesn't anyone realize that the people willing to run the country in accordance to the constitution are being blacked out by the media? Doesn't this in itself send up red lights, flags, and flares that something is very amiss here? While you are busy battling against those chosen for us by corporate media and the elite status quo the real American candidates are silenced and await people to wake up the the fact they are being taken as livestock with no sense that the wolf has infiltrated the herd.

        If anyone actually did some hefty research on the other perfectly legitimate and qualified candidates in this election and want to vote for someone who will UPHOLD our constitution, we would not even need arguments about which puppet dances more attractively.
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        • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          All this talk - obama mccain Obama McCain Obamanation McCaint

          Are the only candidates people are familiar with in this election the media's approved candidates? Doesn't anyone realize that the people willing to run the country in accordance to the constitution are being blacked out by the media? Doesn't this in itself send up red lights, flags, and flares that something is very amiss here? While you are busy battling against those chosen for us by corporate media and the elite status quo the real American candidates are silenced and await people to wake up the the fact they are being taken as livestock with no sense that the wolf has infiltrated the herd.

          If anyone actually did some hefty research on the other perfectly legitimate and qualified candidates in this election and want to vote for someone who will UPHOLD our constitution, we would not even need arguments about which puppet dances more attractively.
          I like Obama, McCain, Barr, Paul. I find these men to be decent human beings.

          I do have problems with some Ron Paul supporters that think that they have to knock all candidates down and only uplift their own. My daughter is a firm supporter of Paul, but she likes Obama too. They are both constitutional lawyers. They have more in common than they have apart. They have different ways of communicating their visions.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            I think they have quite a variance in visions, too.

            Sal -

            Debate will center around the candidate with a chance of winning. Paul may be a great candidate - but with no party endorsement he has no chance of winning.

            In the election, there will likely be many write in votes for Ron Paul, some for Clinton and perhaps even for Nader - but none are real contenders in the election now.

            From Paul's blog:

            Join us next week at the Target Center in Minneapolis for the political resistance event of the year: Ron Paul's Rally for the Republic.
            Together with thousands of fellow Ron Paul supporters from all over the country we will celebrate our achievements, analyze our options and prepare ourselves for the years ahead.
            Sorry, but how many "political resistance of the year" events can occur in one year? What achievements? What options?


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            • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              I think they have quite a variance in visions, too.

              Sal -

              Debate will center around the candidate with a chance of winning. Paul may be a great candidate - but with no party endorsement he has no chance of winning.

              In the election, there will likely be many write in votes for Ron Paul, some for Clinton and perhaps even for Nader - but none are real contenders in the election now.

              From Paul's blog:



              Sorry, but how many "political resistance of the year" events can occur in one year? What achievements? What options?


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        • Profile picture of the author KimW
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          All this talk - obama mccain Obama McCain Obamanation McCaint

          Are the only candidates people are familiar with in this election the media's approved candidates? Doesn't anyone realize that the people willing to run the country in accordance to the constitution are being blacked out by the media? Doesn't this in itself send up red lights, flags, and flares that something is very amiss here? While you are busy battling against those chosen for us by corporate media and the elite status quo the real American candidates are silenced and await people to wake up the the fact they are being taken as livestock with no sense that the wolf has infiltrated the herd.

          If anyone actually did some hefty research on the other perfectly legitimate and qualified candidates in this election and want to vote for someone who will UPHOLD our constitution, we would not even need arguments about which puppet dances more attractively.

          Ron Paul was the constitutional candidate. He honestly wanted to get this country back on track with and in line with the constitution.
          Obama/McCain =more of the same............
          But you are right, The public is fed by the media, and I am not talking about just that comedy station Fox, but all of them.
          This country needs some serious changes and soon.We need a supreme court that upholds the law, and does not kowtow to corporations or political parties. I am still outraged over the supreme court taking away a familys land so a town could build a shopping mall,and did it in the name of eminent domain.
          By the way, very well put:
          "...await people to wake up the the fact they are being taken as livestock with no sense that the wolf has infiltrated the herd. "
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          • Profile picture of the author VegasVince
            Anyone agree with Vinnie here that President's aint "elected" as much as they are "selected"???

            What do I know for sure? And you'se people can check this out yourselves...cuz it's the truth......

            That since 1980.......A Bush.....or a Clinton has had a piece of the White House.......that comes to nearly 3 DECADES! Had Hillary managed to get the nomination.....that would be 32 years!

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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Wright
              She is probably the perfect selection for Republicans in US style
              elections ....

              Media savvy, photogenic female, member of the NRA, likes hunting
              and fishing, bit of an aggressive maverick, large family including
              one disabled child, obviously reasonably wealthy and pictured
              with the skin of a Grizzly that her father shot plus experience
              of running Alaska.

              That about pushes all the buttons that McCain can't or won't.

              Oh dear me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Charles H Smith
      Originally Posted by jfbowles View Post

      She is a lot more ready to be president than Obammie is.
      Ditto Jack....

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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Originally Posted by Charles H Smith View Post

        Don't listen to Newt. He is an idiot. Just to let you know.
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Ellis
          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Don't listen to Newt. He is an idiot. Just to let you know.
          Tim, you're such a hardcore Dem you're completely blinded by any other position.
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            Originally Posted by Michael Ellis View Post

            Tim, you're such a hardcore Dem you're completely blinded by any other position.
            Actually, I see the Repub's just for what they are: behind the times.

            Hopefully, someday they will catch up to others.

            Newt is an idiot. He said ww3 began 2 years ago.!!! Ummm. We're still here Newt. No WW3. You dumb p***k.

            Newt is a has been. Good bye Newt. Thanks for the memories. You aren't all bad. We still love you.

            Now, on to the issues.... Palin had a good speech, but her message sucked. She's part of McBush and that's hard to overcome.
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            • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
              By the way, great speech by Palin. I have to give her credit. Very, very good.

              Cheers to you Sarah Palin.
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              • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
                Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                By the way, great speech by Palin. I have to give her credit. Very, very good.

                Cheers to you Sarah Palin.
                Why does her voice irritate me and makes me fall asleep? I did not get anything out of her speech.
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                • Profile picture of the author Mike Wright
                  Liked her keynote speech joke ......

                  "What's the difference between a "hockey Mom"
                  and a pitbull ..... lipstick!"

                  I thought pitbulls were renowned for ferocity, should
                  be kept muzzled and on a lead plus were not renowned
                  for their intelligence compared to others.

                  Her speech seemed personally to have considerable width
                  but no depth. Emotive certainly .... but unconvincing imho.
                  However, will probably work with American swing voters.
                  It should do after a week closetted with Bush's speech writers :rolleyes:
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                  • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
                    Originally Posted by Mike Wright View Post

                    Liked her keynote speech joke ......

                    "What's the difference between a "hockey Mom"
                    and a pitbull ..... lipstick!"

                    I thought pitbulls were renowned for ferocity, should
                    be kept muzzled and on a lead plus were not renowned
                    for their intelligence compared to others.

                    Her speech seemed personally to have considerable width
                    but no depth. Emotive certainly .... but unconvincing imho.
                    However, will probably work with American swing voters.
                    It should do after a week closetted with Bush's speech writers :rolleyes:
                    I did not get anything out of this speech. I am conservative leaning towards independent that supports Barack Obama. Sarah is not my cup of tea.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                      McCain looks like he is willing to take off his wedding ring for Sarah Palin. He is in love with her in the wrong way, and he has it bad for her. Shocks.
                      That is stupid and way over the line. When you see "dirty" in everything you look at - it says a lot about you.

                      I liked Palin's speech because it was a good VP candidate speech. The comment about pit bulls made me laugh out loud - and pit bulls (unless they are overbred for bad characteristics) are very intelligent dogs.

                      I'm training one now and she's one of the quickest I've ever had in understanding what I want her to do. Remember the Little Rascals old TV show - their dog was a pit bull. Helen Keller's dog was a pit bull. Until bad people began exploiting them, pit bulls were one of the favorite pets to have and known for intelligence, loyalty, personality and tenacity. Sounds like a soccer mom to me!

                      Palin showed a great sense of humor and respect and loyalty for McCain - and the comment about the styrofoam "pillars" was hilarious.

                      Obama made a mistake this week when he claimed his "administrative experience" was in running his campaign. It wasn't a good move on his part and I doubt he'll repeat that claim going forward. He meant the comment to be impressive - but it came across to many as "I'm learning how to be Pres by running for the office".

                      kay
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                      January was long, February was iffy, March was a freaking dumpster fire.
                      So sit down, be quiet, and don't touch anything.
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                      • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
                        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                        That is stupid and way over the line. When you see "dirty" in everything you look at - it says a lot about you.

                        I liked Palin's speech because it was a good VP candidate speech. The comment about pit bulls made me laugh out loud - and pit bulls (unless they are overbred for bad characteristics) are very intelligent dogs.

                        I'm training one now and she's one of the quickest I've ever had in understanding what I want her to do. Remember the Little Rascals old TV show - their dog was a pit bull. Helen Keller's dog was a pit bull. Until bad people began exploiting them, pit bulls were one of the favorite pets to have and known for intelligence, loyalty, personality and tenacity. Sounds like a soccer mom to me!

                        Palin showed a great sense of humor and respect and loyalty for McCain - and the comment about the styrofoam "pillars" was hilarious.

                        Obama made a mistake this week when he claimed his "administrative experience" was in running his campaign. It wasn't a good move on his part and I doubt he'll repeat that claim going forward. He meant the comment to be impressive - but it came across to many as "I'm learning how to be Pres by running for the office".

                        kay
                        Stupid is with me. Take a second look at this: YouTube - John McCain's Wandering Eyes

                        Only the blind cannot see that McCain has the hots for Palin.
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                        • Profile picture of the author Michael Ellis
                          Class act guys... real class act.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                            Stupid is with me. Take a second look at this: YouTube - John McCain's Wandering Eyes

                            Only the blind cannot see that McCain has the hots for Palin.
                            And what do you call those who get their political opinions from youtube???

                            The blind leading the dumb? Getting on the clueless train?

                            Clearly, there's no longer any use in trying to intelligently debate anything political here now as it's gotten totally ridiculous. I'm out of this - back to the main section and making money.

                            kay
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                            January was long, February was iffy, March was a freaking dumpster fire.
                            So sit down, be quiet, and don't touch anything.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Patrician
                              Yeh I am out of here too.

                              This is why 'DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS' is a good idea.

                              The OT is now dominated by them.
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                              • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
                                Originally Posted by Patrician View Post

                                Yeh I am out of here too.

                                This is why 'DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS' is a good idea.

                                The OT is now dominated by them.
                                HAHAHA, I must remember to laugh.
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                            • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
                              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                              And what do you call those who get their political opinions from youtube???

                              The blind leading the dumb? Getting on the clueless train?

                              Clearly, there's no longer any use in trying to intelligently debate anything political here now as it's gotten totally ridiculous. I'm out of this - back to the main section and making money.

                              kay
                              A picture is worth a thousand words.

                              Calling people names again?
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                • Profile picture of the author logocheckout
                  Originally Posted by Melkor View Post

                  Well, I think Sal's right about what McCain was thinking....

                  YouTube - John McCain's Wandering Eyes
                  McCain looks like he is willing to take off his wedding ring for Sarah Palin. He is in love with her in the wrong way, and he has it bad for her. Shocks.
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