Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for Global Warming fraud

Profile picture of the author tagiscom by tagiscom Posted: 01/29/2013

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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    MoneyMagnetMagnate
    Where did the Koch brothers find 30,000 scientists?

    Oh, and sue him for this internet thingy too...it's kerflooey.
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Kay King
    That's at the top of the stupid pile for me.


    ....it's also rehashed from the same announcement in 2008...which was labeled a "myth"
  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Kurt
    Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post
    Where did the Koch brothers find 30,000 scientists?

    Oh, and sue him for this internet thingy too...it's kerflooey.
    It's Art Robinson, not the Koch Bros. Art is the same scientist that believes the radiation from nuclear plants is "good" for us. There's also lots of controversy about many of his 30,000 signitures on the pettition.

    Check him out for yourself. This is the lead scientist debunking global warming:

  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    MoneyMagnetMagnate
    Just for starters...
    Robinson opposes abortion and supports gun rights,[1] cutting taxes, increasing border security and building new power plants.[1] He argues for balancing the federal budget, defunding earmarks and ending special-interest influence in Washington.[1] He also supports restoring sound money and ending the Federal Reserve System. Robinson is against bailouts to Wall Street banks. He also supports a strong national defense, but with a more restrained foreign policy.[21] Robinson is a signatory to A Scientific Dissent from Darwinism, a petition circulated by the Discovery Institute to promote intelligent design.
    Though he is quite credentialed, I would have to see his supportive data...
  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Kurt
    Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post
    Just for starters...

    Though he is quite credentialed, I would have to see his supportive data...
    Watch the video. Let him speak for himself.
  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    garyv
    Originally Posted by Kurt View Post
    Watch the video. Let him speak for himself.
    I thought he spoke for himself fairly well. He definitely knows the bogus overused tactics of Rachel Maddow. She constantly uses out of context quotes, which lead to faulty analogy. And those logically challenged fall for it every time.
  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    MoneyMagnetMagnate
    Originally Posted by Kurt View Post
    Watch the video. Let him speak for himself.
    After watching the video, the argument got nowhere...he spoke, but wasn't allowed to speak - when I called him 'credentialed', I was referring to his degrees, and if/what he may scientifically offer in rebuttal to global warming claims. I found it amusing, that he opened and sidestepped the issue of campaign funding, and according to this story, he ended up spending 400K more than DeFazio, and lost for a second time. http://www.nrtoday.com/news/3111681-...county-percent

    I'll have to see the what/why of these 30k scientists to see if there is any weight to their argument. (are they blaming it on cow farts? or what?)

    As a citizen of Colorado, I'm sure you are aware of terms 'survivalist', 'doomsday', and links to Armageddon, from some folks who may have a fundamental way of looking at things, - Douglas County Oregon is a bastion for those types of ideas.

    My remark about the Koch's may have been flippant in this particular case, but I'm sure you as someone who has great interest in alternative energies is aware of the big checks they have written to combat the ideas of a global warming.

    As for John Coleman, he may have been a co-founder of 'The Weather Channel', but I cannot find anything that says he is even a Meteorologist - and as far as 'weatherman' gigs go, San Diego has to be one of the best ones going.. "today, sunny - tomorrow, sunny - next week...probably sunny...
  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    thunderbird
    This 30k figure is utterly bogus, irrespective of whatever stance one holds on global warming. Spreading such a lie really has an erosive effect on the credibility of whatever argument one presents.
  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    garyv
    Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post
    This 30k figure is utterly bogus, irrespective of whatever stance one holds on global warming. Spreading such a lie really has an erosive effect on the credibility of whatever argument one presents.

    Spreading lies for some is not really erosive to their credibility... it's more like an "inconvenience"...

    Al Gore's 'nine Inconvenient Untruths' - Telegraph
  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    Big Rob
    In lieu of hard scientific data...

    Have not the summers felt hotter?
    The winters seem shorter?
    Arent the northern ice caps melting?
    Sea levels rising?
    Glaciers melting at a record pace?
    Carbon emissions at an all time high?
    Hurricanes/Typhoons/ Super storms occuring at greater strength and frequency?
    Or are y'all living on a different planet?

    Yes, Al "me want banana" Gore is NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer
    And his facts tend to be skewed, however, not acknowledging that there is even a minute amount of "Truth" to his claims is living in denial
  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    thunderbird
    Originally Posted by garyv View Post
    Spreading lies for some is not really erosive to their credibility... it's more like an "inconvenience"...
    Whichever side one is on, spreading lies harms one's own side. I'll qualify that -- guess sometimes it works if no one is called out on the lie.
  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    MoneyMagnetMagnate
    Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post
    In lieu of hard scientific data...

    Have not the summers felt hotter?
    The winters seem shorter?
    Arent the northern ice caps melting?
    Sea levels rising?
    Glaciers melting at a record pace?
    Carbon emissions at an all time high?
    Hurricanes/Typhoons/ Super storms occuring at greater strength and frequency?
    Or are y'all living on a different planet?

    Yes, Al "me want banana" Gore is NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer
    And his facts tend to be skewed, however, not acknowledging that there is even a minute amount of "Truth" to his claims is living in denial
    Oh, poo-poo and pish-tosh :p :rolleyes:
  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    garyv
    Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post
    In lieu of hard scientific data...

    Have not the summers felt hotter?
    The winters seem shorter?
    Arent the northern ice caps melting?
    Sea levels rising?
    Glaciers melting at a record pace?
    Carbon emissions at an all time high?
    Hurricanes/Typhoons/ Super storms occuring at greater strength and frequency?
    Or are y'all living on a different planet?

    Yes, Al "me want banana" Gore is NOT the sharpest knife in the drawer
    And his facts tend to be skewed, however, not acknowledging that there is even a minute amount of "Truth" to his claims is living in denial
    But they are not occurring at greater frequency - they are being reported at a MUCH greater frequency than before. And we have social networks that let us know when anything anywhere happens now.

    Big storms, heat, and weird weather have always happened - There was just never a youtube, facebook, and 24hr news channels to report it.

    I'm not saying that our lifestyles have NO effect on global climate - it's just not nearly as much as those making billions saying it actually lead you to believe.


    ps - Al Gore recently sold "Current TV" which was suppose to be his mouthpiece to spread his global agenda of "making smaller carbon footprints". He sold it to Al Jazeera - which is completely funded by the sale of fossil fuels. It's about money.
  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    MoneyMagnetMagnate
    btw: Recycling plays a big part in saving the planet too -
    Wondering what to do with your 'poptops'?
    Here's a creative suggestion...:rolleyes:
    Ah, Casual Friday, the best day to pull out the lighter necklace and soda can tab suit. - Imgur
  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    Big Rob
    Originally Posted by garyv View Post
    But they are not occurring at greater frequency - they are being reported at a MUCH greater frequency than before. And we have social networks that let us know when anything anywhere happens now.

    Big storms, heat, and weird weather have always happened - There was just never a youtube, facebook, and 24hr news channels to report it.

    I'm not saying that our lifestyles have NO effect on global climate - it's just not nearly as much as those making billions saying it actually lead you to believe.


    ps - Al Gore recently sold "Current TV" which was suppose to be his mouthpiece to spread his global agenda of "making smaller carbon footprints". He sold it to Al Jazeera - which is completely funded by the sale of fossil fuels. It's about money.
    I am mobile and its a huge PITA to post links...

    And I am not going to do youre research for you.
    Look it up. I believe youll be surprised
  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    Big Rob
    Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post
    Oh, poo-poo and pish-tosh :p :rolleyes:
    Now THATS a thoughtful intelligent arguement
  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    garyv
    Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post
    I am mobile and its a huge PITA to post links...

    And I am not going to do youre research for you.
    Look it up. I believe youll be surprised
    I have - and I'm not.
  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    HeySal
    The 30,000 scientists are ALL degreed. The degree is required to sign, unlike the Kayoto petition of a few thousand which included people such as hair dressers. Kewl eh?

    We don't have warming - we have desertification. There is one hella difference. Yeah it's change - but what the govs want to do won't cure it.
  • Profile picture of the author MoneyMagnetMagnate
    MoneyMagnetMagnate
    Originally Posted by HeySal View Post
    The 30,000 scientists are ALL degreed. The degree is required to sign, unlike the Kyoto petition of a few thousand which included people such as hair dressers. Kewl eh?

    We don't have warming - we have desertification. There is one hella difference. Yeah it's change - but what the govs want to do won't cure it.
    I would think desertification is a process...warming is a result - and one begets the other...

    (ftfy - Kyoto)
  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    HeySal
    Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post
    I would think desertification is a process...warming is a result - and one begets the other...

    (ftfy - Kyoto)
    Yep I ALWAYS misspell it for some reason. Mental block.

    Desertification does result in heat. Go into a city then walk out into a forest. The difference is immediately perceptible. Unfortunately, until we get the population into a negative growth pattern, there's not much that we're going to do about this - especially considering the illegality of growing hemp, which could be used to save tens to hundreds of millions of trees annually. What the hell, there is NO profit for major corps or our greedy leaders in saving trees. They don't care what happens after they are dead. Destruction is getting bad enough though that they might suffer themselves during their own lifetime if they don't knock it off. There comes a point that a lot of money won't save your butt. They just haven't figured that out yet.

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