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How To Live & work in the usa asap (and get citizenship eventually)

by maren
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Hi Warriors,
I've been contemplating this question for a while now and I still haven't found the answer that i'm looking for.

An obvious answer would be to get married to a citizen but I have yet to fall in love.
I have a bachelor in biz admin and marketing (from usa college) but my work experience is poor so chances are I wont qualify.

I'm very convinced that someone out there know of a path that would work for me...possibly an unadvertised path that isn't well known, or an uncle who's the god of immigration?

My goal really is to live in the usa because it's a better and more hopeful life than living in my country.

If you know know of a path to living in the usa please share it with me via PM or on this thread. My goal is to leave my country and move back to the US as soon as possible.

Thanks


Ps. I entered the green card lottery in nov 2012, hopefully i'm a winner.

UPDATE:
during my research on US immigration today I concluded that its just going to be easier to get a work permit in Canada. I would like to relocate and work as soon as possible so Canada is my new immediate goal now.

If you have any Canadian job leads or Canadian company recommendations please let me know.
  • Profile picture of the author John Rogers
    Have you looked at Canada? I believe it's much easier to get resident alien status there, but don't know that for a fact. Plus they have free medical.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Why the hell would anyone want to come here considering the turmoil right now.
    Natural Americans with higher degrees than yours and a lot of work experience can't get jobs - what are you thinking?
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    • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Why the hell would anyone want to come here considering the turmoil right now.
      Natural Americans with higher degrees than yours and a lot of work experience can't get jobs - what are you thinking?
      C'mon, Sal.
      Don't piss on the guys aspirations.
      At least he is trying to do it legally.
      Surely the opportunities are greater here than his homeland.
      Besides, we could use a jamaican connection for , ya know,coffee.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

        C'mon, Sal.
        Don't piss on the guys aspirations.
        At least he is trying to do it legally.
        Surely the opportunities are greater here than his homeland.
        Besides, we could use a jamaican connection for , ya know,coffee.
        He has a right to know about the difficulties, though. Even legal - how's he going to manage? Would you like to get to a foreign country to find out that it's going to be a whole new nightmare instead of a great experience? I agree with whoever else said it - go to Canada instead. At least he'll be able to survive there.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          He has a right to know about the difficulties, though. Even legal - how's he going to manage? Would you like to get to a foreign country to find out that it's going to be a whole new nightmare instead of a great experience? I agree with whoever else said it - go to Canada instead. At least he'll be able to survive there.
          You have THAT right. Many seem to think that all in the US, ESPECIALLY whites, are filthy rich. Meanwhile, a lot of rich people, in the US, want to go ELSEWHERE!

          You REALLY want to come to the US? Pretend you know NOTHING about the cost of living. The fact is, you probably DON'T! Determine what you want for food, employment, insurance, housing, entertainment, etc... And FORGET looking where YOU are! Look in the area you want to move to. Check what it costs. Price everything to INCLUDE the conversion rate from your currency. They are suggesting that americans have a MINIMUM of 3 months cash. Try to get a minimum of 9 months, just in case.

          And don't forget to add tax, and the loss of various benefits.

          Can you get by for very little? SURE! But you would probably STILL not be as comfortable as you could be in europe for less.

          This all goes for canada also, but canada seems to be more stable for the moment.

          Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    I agree with what John Rogers said. Canada seems to be doing better than the U.S. The population is a lot lower in Canada and there is still a demand for skilled, foreign workers. Although it has slowed down a bit.

    Find a company hiring (most work is in Alberta), get an LMO (labor market opinion) and a work permit and bob's your uncle.

    If you love the States that much, you can always drive down to Montana, Seattle or even Wyoming in your free time. At least that's what I used to do.

    Here's a good site for jobs in Canada.

    Canadajobs.com

    Good luck, mate.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    ALSO, if the US politicians grow a few neurons, they will decide to CANCEL the lotteries! And maren... Although your degree is TECHNICALLY a benefit, the lack of experience, and the fact that it isn't something the US NEEDS should count you OUT!

    ALSO, marriages now may be audited, and I believe there is now a certain time frame. If you fail the audit, or breakup before that time frame, you could be OUT! There were just too many getting married, getting citizenship, and then they find the whole thing was a SCAM!

    Of course, there IS the full and proper way, but that is apparently somewhat lengthy, or rather COULD be. There IS some talk about shortening it for those that really don't NEED the time, like if they know english. Ironically, that WON'T help the average mexican, but it almost certainly WOULD help YOU!

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author maren
    Thanks for your responses guys

    I've lived in the USA before so I'm aware of all the cost of living and such. I've also lived in Toronto Canada for a little bit too and I prefer America. But logic tells me that I could potentially be happier with Canadian life.

    Anyway, during my research on US immigration today I concluded that its just going to be easier to get a work permit in Canada. I would like to relocate and work as soon as possible so Canada is my new immediate goal now.

    The Canadian government seems more friendly to immigrants who are economically productive.

    My next step is to find a company that would be willing to hire me so I can apply for a work permit.

    If you have any Canadian job leads or Canadian company recommendations please let me know.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by maren View Post

      Thanks for your responses guys

      I've lived in the USA before so I'm aware of all the cost of living and such. I've also lived in Toronto Canada for a little bit too and I prefer America. But logic tells me that I could potentially be happier with Canadian life.

      Anyway, during my research on US immigration today I concluded that its just going to be easier to get a work permit in Canada. I would like to relocate and work as soon as possible so Canada is my new immediate goal now.

      The Canadian government seems more friendly to immigrants who are economically productive.
      WOW! In WHAT way? I only heard about a few countries, but it seemed the US, CANADA, and much of western europe was similar in that regard. Of course, they won't LOOK to the carribean, and few, that I have seen, have been carribean. So you may find that there won't be many quite like you.

      My next step is to find a company that would be willing to hire me so I can apply for a work permit.

      If you have any Canadian job leads or Canadian company recommendations please let me know.
      If it fits with what YOU want to do, you can check out monster or dice. It IS US centric, but may have canada stuff also. Just be aware that sponsoring may cost, so it is a mark AGAINST you. That is one reason why so many coming that way are cheaper. Of course, Canada might be different there.

      Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
      Originally Posted by maren View Post

      Thanks for your responses guys

      I've lived in the USA before so I'm aware of all the cost of living and such. I've also lived in Toronto Canada for a little bit too and I prefer America. But logic tells me that I could potentially be happier with Canadian life.

      Anyway, during my research on US immigration today I concluded that its just going to be easier to get a work permit in Canada. I would like to relocate and work as soon as possible so Canada is my new immediate goal now.

      The Canadian government seems more friendly to immigrants who are economically productive.

      My next step is to find a company that would be willing to hire me so I can apply for a work permit.

      If you have any Canadian job leads or Canadian company recommendations please let me know.
      but canada is part of america, just like guyana, peru and usa,
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  • Profile picture of the author maren
    Hi Steve,
    I think Canada is more friendly to productive immigrants in that once you have a job they are more likely to give you a work permit. In the US it's not that easy, there are a lot of qualifications to meet.

    I have a friend who was in Canada as a visitor working illegally past the time he was allowed to stay. He took the risk of walking into immigration and telling them his situation. He proved that he had a job, and good intentions for life and they gave him a work permit on the spot so he could continue to work. It probably won't work that way for every single person but i'm hearing multiple stories that confirm that Canada will welcome you on a work permit if you prove to be a productive resident.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by maren View Post

      Hi Steve,
      I think Canada is more friendly to productive immigrants in that once you have a job they are more likely to give you a work permit. In the US it's not that easy, there are a lot of qualifications to meet.

      I have a friend who was in Canada as a visitor working illegally past the time he was allowed to stay. He took the risk of walking into immigration and telling them his situation. He proved that he had a job, and good intentions for life and they gave him a work permit on the spot so he could continue to work. It probably won't work that way for every single person but i'm hearing multiple stories that confirm that Canada will welcome you on a work permit if you prove to be a productive resident.
      hen WHY do you need a work permit? A work permit is supposed to allow you to get a job, not the other way around.

      From what I hear, a number of countries have a number of requirements, that are somewhat similar. When you meet those, a person(even the employer) can sponsor you and you can work after you get the permit. It IS surprising what jobs they will let you do though. They go all the way from practically unskilled almost minimum wage jobs on up and many americans would LOVE to do, and HAVE DONE.

      Steve
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