People, Agendas and Idiocy

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

with social media you see more of the craziness as the loonies flock together.

This concerns me, a little. This isn't altogether a good thing. It's becoming easier for people with bizarrely idiotic beliefs, attitudes and behaviors to get together and effectively reinforce each other's prejudices and organize themselves. Just part of the downside to greatly enhanced communication potential.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

This concerns me, a little. This isn't altogether a good thing. It's becoming easier for people with bizarrely idiotic beliefs, attitudes and behaviors to get together and effectively reinforce each other's prejudices and organize themselves. Just part of the downside to greatly enhanced communication potential.

To be fair though, the WORST, and most likely to react, ALWAYS find a place! Sometime in the 70s a class mate brought a paper from a local $%^&*(A donut shop that was then VERY popular), and showed it to the class. I had been at $%^&* several times, for donuts, and NEVER saw such a thing. The paper was a VERY RACIST KKK paper. And NO, I never heard such stuff, and that was the first and last I saw of it. But the thing is that they were spreading this. I think that was when I was in like the 4th grade.

Names were changed to protect the innocent.

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HeySal

11 years ago

I think they are a LOT crazier than they used to be - for a lot of reasons.

First off - look at what we're eating and the drugs that are being pushed down our throats. Your body can only take so much poison before things start going wrong..........and the BRAIN IS part of the body.

Second - we're over-populated and human sociology isn't built for "ant hill" behavior.

Third - our schools are teaching little but mediocrity and obedience. Most teenagers haven't one whit of a clue how to think critically. They are bred for consumerism. True onsumerists are some of the most easily led and stupid forms of life on the planet. Go look up the mind control patents for cell phones in the US Patent Registry - and remember that you can't patent anything until you can prove that it works. That's just cell phones. What else are they doing to our kids?

We're in a state where cops have become scary aggressive and leaders are turning to tyranny. When the law turns lawless, so do the people.

If we can regain control of our educational facilities and get most of the population on real food and off the drugging train, we might have half a chance.

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Kay King 11 years ago

I think some people are just born nuts, Sal.

And I agree with Alexa the social platforms can amplify the voices and glorify the poster kids for bad behavior. For every person espousing some wild "cause" there are a dozen wannabe toughies with nothing better to do but go along.

In a real crisis - these are the first people who start screaming for someone to help them!
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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

remember that you can't patent anything until you can prove that it works.

That USED to be true! A lot of patents today have vague theories, are are crazy dreams. My favorite is the patent that claims that their compression is recorsive and can reduce a terabyte to one BIT! That is, of course, IMPOSSIBLE! 1 bit can store 0 or one, and a terabyte can hold SUCH a large number that I doubt anyone ever tried to determine what that number is.

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HeySal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

That USED to be true! A lot of patents today have vague theories, are are crazy dreams. My favorite is the patent that claims that their compression is recorsive and can reduce a terabyte to one BIT! That is, of course, IMPOSSIBLE! 1 bit can store 0 or one, and a terabyte can hold SUCH a large number that I doubt anyone ever tried to determine what that number is.

Steve

Maybe it's not impossible and that is why there is a patent on the technique?
I know patent PENDING is a protection for those working on something - if they don't get it to work, there will be no patent. Once the patent is actually formalized from the pending stage, the product needs to be shown to work.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Maybe it's not impossible and that is why there is a patent on the technique?

Well, the example I gave you was actually submitted, and impossible. The reason why compression saves so much space is that it is run length(Gives a portion, and tells how many times it repeated) and pattern based(Storing the largest matching strings, and providig an index to them) That second one is the one compress, 7zip, zip, gzip, etc.... uses. So ALL current methods compress to a file LARGER than the largest common piece in the source. The reason why it is the LARGEST common piece is because the smaller they are, the bigger the final result would be.

I know patent PENDING is a protection for those working on something - if they don't get it to work, there will be no patent. Once the patent is actually formalized from the pending stage, the product needs to be shown to work.

Actually, I took a patent class some time ago, and they said it was ILLEGAL to state patent pending if you didn't submit paperwork. If you broke that, your work would be considered prior art which is SUPPOSED to make the patent invalid.

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Kay King

11 years ago

Prescribing Ritalin to children, particular children under the age of 13 is incomprehensible to me.
If a 6 year old child doesn't have A.D.D. and/or have too much energy, that is a child with a potential problem.

I so agree. Years ago, a teacher had just told me the only problem she had with my son (this was first grade) was he tended not to go along with the other kids. She said he always decided what to do and the others followed his lead and it didn't seem "fair".

Then she suggested Ritalin and I had to laugh. You have a kid who is very lively, smart and a natural born leader that others willingly follow....so you want to drug him? Don't think so. Today, he's a leader in his field...wonder where he'd be if I'd drugged the imagination and liveliness out of him???

How do you hand a kid pills every day and then tell him "don't use drugs?"

I agree with what Alexa, Sal and others above said - but I don't have any thanks:confused:

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Joe Mobley 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

You have a kid who is very lively, smart and a natural born leader that others willingly follow....

These are not redeeming qualities for an individual in a trending-socialist society.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I so agree. Years ago, a teacher had just told me the only problem she had with my son (this was first grade) was he tended not to go along with the other kids. She said he always decided what to do and the others followed his lead and it didn't seem "fair".

Then she suggested Ritalin and I had to laugh. You have a kid who is very lively, smart and a natural born leader that others willingly follow....so you want to drug him? Don't think so. Today, he's a leader in his field...wonder where he'd be if I'd drugged the imagination and liveliness out of him???

How do you hand a kid pills every day and then tell him "don't use drugs?"

I agree with what Alexa, Sal and others above said - but I don't have any thanks:confused:

kay

That is one reason I often put teacher in quotes! Teachers don't want independent thinkers, or they can't properly teach anyway, and they decide they want ZOMBIES. THEIR word often counts as much as a NEUROLOGIST! So THEY basically prescribe for your kid and YOU are supposed to TOE THE LINE. Sometimes, they will even give them the drugs. It wasn't that uncommon when I went to school. In fact, I found that some jerk at school said I should go on ritalin! My mother just ignored them. Funny, nobody ever told me, and I wasn't hyperactive, etc...

I have seen how it affects some people. Adderall, MIGHT be ok. I have known a few that went on it and liked it. It seemed to help. Some college students take it to study. I have known, or known of, too many that went on Ritalin and ended up WORSE. EITHER supposedly works differently depending on whether the child is normal or has some condition such as autism.

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MissTerraK 11 years ago

I fought the school system for three years to keep my child from taking Ritalin, starting in second grade. Yep, they had a physician that prescribed it on the word of the principal via a teacher and tried to convince me to take him there despite his pediatrician stating he wasn't ADD or ADHD.

I won! Turns out he was gifted...go figure!!:rolleyes:

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HeySal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

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Actually, I took a patent class some time ago, and they said it was ILLEGAL to state patent pending if you didn't submit paperwork. If you broke that, your work would be considered prior art which is SUPPOSED to make the patent invalid.

Steve

Yeah Steve - you have to submit your papers....um.........that's not what I was saying. I was saying that you can continue work to iron out bugs in patent pending so the product will work when it goes in for full patent - patent pending is protection against someone stealing what you're doing. Patent - it's all finished. Anyway - I just hear so many people scream tinfoil when someone says "mind control" that it's important for them to understand that there are a couple hundred mind control devices on the market - some that work with cell phones and that type of thing -- and the way kids bury their faces in those things is really scary.

As far as schools prescribing drugs for kids..........I'm so surprised that someone doesn't have them jailed for practicing medicine without a license.

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HeySal

11 years ago

I agree with that to extent, too, Kay - but I think that the other factors I mentioned are a guarantee of a sick society, too.

If you've noticed - a lot more people are being diagnosed as nuts, too. When kids exhibit certain traits now they are labeled with medical disorders -- they used to be called "spoiled brats" and got spankings. Then parents had control of discipline taken away from them and we end up where we are today. Go figure.

Taking rights from parents to discipline children is a socialization technique, nothing more. People bought it instead of telling "authorities" to knock off their crap. If the medical industrial complex had not been called in to help in the socialization process - people would have probably stopped the takeover of parental rights. Giving things a medical name makes concerned parents willing to go along with almost anything "for the good of the children".

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

The ex-cop in California kills two innocent people and tries to kill police officers.

A group quickly forms on facebook to urge people to "consider his manifesto" and claiming "he has good points". He's a stone killer - his points lost any meaning when he took the first life.

In a court for drug possession (26 Xanax "bars"...whatever that is), an 18 yr old woman laughs in court, is flippant with the judge and he increases her bail. Then she said "f-you" and gives him the finger as she walks away. Contempt of court - judge gives her 30 days.

Another judge reduces the increased bail - and now the woman is supposedly going back to court to "apologize" so she can get out of the sentence.

On Facebook, the charges are racism, crimes against woman, over prosecution of drug possession...etc. And there is a "free Penelope" movement that says she had a right to do what she wanted.

I don't think people are any crazier than they used to be - but with social media you see more of the craziness as the loonies flock together.

That ex police officer has the LAPD spreading themselves thin, and scared. The whole thing could be planned. He is trying to leverage racism. ICSSMM!

As for xanax? It is described as:

Treats anxiety, panic disorder, insomnia (trouble sleeping), and anxiety caused by depression. This medicine is a benzodiazepine.

If she took it, or it was prescribed for her, that drug could exacerbate her behavior as she acted.

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HKSEO Jonbones

11 years ago

You're not crazy if everyone else thinks the same way. That makes you the majority.

Doesn't means that folks is waaaaay more dumberer now, just that their stupidity is available and accessible for everyone to see; and you can attribute that directly to social media

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seasoned

11 years ago

BTW I WISH they didn't redact his comments. Why show ANY of the manifesto without showing some of his motives, etc... Even some PRAISE was removed. And this makes one wonder about EVERYTHING!

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lcombs

11 years ago

Prescribing Ritalin to children, particular children under the age of 13 is incomprehensible to me.
If a 6 year old child doesn't have A.D.D. and/or have too much energy, that is a child with a potential problem.

And, "Spare the rod, spoil the child" used be the norm. I think it's being proven as sound parenting. In moderation of course.

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

This is the downside of the internet, stupid people can easily support stupid causes (ex: the girl that flipped off the judge).

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11 years ago

The Tao Of Calvin: (or if you prefer - revisionist Calvinism...:rolleyes

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Kay King

11 years ago

I was channel surfing tonight and came across an interview featuring Dr. Benjamin Carson. This guy is amazing.

I won't post the link but google the guy and listen to his speech video from the National Prayer Breakfast. Pretty damned amazing guy.

But - it was what he said about his upbringing that really struck me.

His mother was a domestic with a 3rd grade education who worked 2-3 jobs to support her children. She refused to be on welfare because she said everyone she knew who got on welfare never got off it.

She worked in private homes and noticed the people in those homes were reading, playing music, talking and weren't watching much television. She went home and turned off the TV and told her kids they needed to start reading two library books per week and hand in written book reports TO HER each week. She marked the reports and underlined some words on them. She had the kids fooled because she could not read those reports!

He said he had been a problem at school, bottom of his class and within 18 months of this new reading requirement at home he was at the top of his class and so were his siblings. Education begins at home - and we've forgotten that.

He also said his mother never accepted excuses from the children or anyone else. Being black was not an excuse, being tired wasn't an excuse - there were no excuses not to do your best at all times.

This man has some great ideas and a unique view of our society - I hope we hear more from him.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I was channel surfing tonight and came across an interview featuring Dr. Benjamin Carson. This guy is amazing.

I won't post the link but google the guy and listen to his speech video from the National Prayer Breakfast. Pretty damned amazing guy.

But - it was what he said about his upbringing that really struck me.

His mother was a domestic with a 3rd grade education who worked 2-3 jobs to support her children. She refused to be on welfare because she said everyone she knew who got on welfare never got off it.

She worked in private homes and noticed the people in those homes were reading, playing music, talking and weren't watching much television. She went home and turned off the TV and told her kids they needed to start reading two library books per week and hand in written book reports TO HER each week. She marked the reports and underlined some words on them. She had the kids fooled because she could not read those reports!

He said he had been a problem at school, bottom of his class and within 18 months of this new reading requirement at home he was at the top of his class and so were his siblings. Education begins at home - and we've forgotten that.

He also said his mother never accepted excuses from the children or anyone else. Being black was not an excuse, being tired wasn't an excuse - there were no excuses not to do your best at all times.

This man has some great ideas and a unique view of our society - I hope we hear more from him.

WOW! I was GOING to post a video of him at the prayer breakfast, etc... but THAT one didn't contain that story. His mother was OBVIOUSLY right. I guess it has a lesson for nearly everyone. I try to keep up on everything, etc... but still almost always have the TV on. 8-( Anyway, he obviously ended up being a brave, thoughtful, and smart man. I bet HE would make a nice president!

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MissTerraK 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

The Tao Of Calvin: (or if you prefer - revisionist Calvinism...:rolleyes

LOL, 3M!

The second strip about pegs my son to a tee!

Thanks for the laugh.

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Lucian Lada

11 years ago

My problem (among others) with crazy people is that they have the same voting rights. That's something very concerning, especially since a lot of politicians don't have a problem appealing to them to gain some votes.

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Kay King

11 years ago

they have the same voting rights

Judging from the news out of Cincinnati today - sometimes they have more voting rights

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Kay King

11 years ago

Update on the Xanax girl:

She went back into court today and apologized - she was so sorry she had been disrespectful.

The judge removed the 30 day sentence AND cut the bail to $0 and released her. He said he hoped she had learned something.

She learned to avoid consequences you say what people want to hear and you are home free. Some lesson!

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tagiscom

11 years ago

I agree with that to extent, too, Kay - but I think that the other factors I mentioned are a guarantee of a sick society, too.

If you've noticed - a lot more people are being diagnosed as nuts, too. When kids exhibit certain traits now they are labeled with medical disorders -- they used to be called "spoiled brats" and got spankings. Then parents had control of discipline taken away from them and we end up where we are today. Go figure.

Taking rights from parents to discipline children is a socialization technique, nothing more. People bought it instead of telling "authorities" to knock off their crap. If the medical industrial complex had not been called in to help in the socialization process - people would have probably stopped the takeover of parental rights. Giving things a medical name makes concerned parents willing to go along with almost anything "for the good of the children".

Yep, latest crap from AU, is that kids, should wipe their hands with disinfectant, before playing in the sandpit, and wash their hands in more afterwards!

Most disinfectant stinks, now Softly makes disinfectant wash, guaranteed to stink your clothes, so you smell like a bottle of Dettol, but at least you are germ free???? :rolleyes:

And they can't blow out anyone's candles except their own, so the days of blowing out a large cake in childcare is a thing of the past!

Eventhough it has been proven that parents that wrap their kids in cotton wool, have more health issues later on in life, (kids getting ill wise).

So gov, are either making these rules so the medical profession continues to make plenty of money, covering themselves against legal losses, or are just plain dumb?

Third - our schools are teaching little but mediocrity and obedience. Most teenagers haven't one whit of a clue how to think critically. They are bred for consumerism. True onsumerists are some of the most easily led and stupid forms of life on the planet. Go look up the mind control patents for cell phones in the US Patent Registry - and remember that you can't patent anything until you can prove that it works. That's just cell phones. What else are they doing to our kids?

Yep Edison got kicked out of school and Einstein was called a dunce! They both did pretty well for themselves!

• Yep, primary school teaches you how to sit still, shut up and learn things in a boring way.

• Then later on, when you get a job, it teaches you how to go with the flow, shut up, stay out of dept and buy shiny things.

• Then retirement teaches you how to live on very little, beg your family for money to stay in your home and shut up.

Once l learned the number of people who end up broke at age 65, l knew that developing an online business was the best way to go!

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Lucian Lada 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

She learned to avoid consequences you say what people want to hear and you are home free. Some lesson!

That's actually a good lesson to follow in some cases. I just came from an exam with a teacher that pulls ideas out of his rear end (just like Harry Potter, you know?) and makes us learn them, ideas that are against facts, no matter how you look at them. I could have tried to explain (and a lot of people tried, without success, of course), or close my mouth and say what he wanted to hear. First choice would mean an F (or the equivalent), the second A or B. Guess what I chose?
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