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Old 04-16-2009, 10:17 PM   #1
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MODS - if this is does not belong here. I 100% understand.

Allen, thanks for letting this ride if it can.

Hey guys, in tough times, I know millions need a helping hand and
I have never been one for posting in forums for people in dire straights.

But, with that said... This story has touched my heart.

A total stranger reached out to me to donate for a young girl that
is 15 and has cancer. She needs money for treatment that can save
her life.

Life is precious and we Warriors can help save her life. She does
not need much to be raised to get her treatment.

I promised the family today that I would reach out to the people I
think will so what they can, no matter how small, to help.

Her name is Macy Johns. Please see what you can do to help this
young beautiful girl.

She is counting on us.

Even if it is $10. $100 even better. $1000 if you are blessed to be in that position.

And if money is tight, hey, I have been there too but there are ways to help.

Add it to your sig file for a few days. Add it to your outlook. Send a tweet. YOU
can make a difference.

The website is here.

Hodgkins Disease Cancer Macy Johns 15 Years Old - Donation Site

- Donate
- Tweet
- Pray

Or do just one of those if that is all you can do.

I got a personal email from her family and she was in tears with joy for
what we were able to do yesterday when I told a few friends and tweeted.

We raised $4600 in 1 day.

Thanks so much to all of you.

Mike Filsaime

PS - I know this is off topic for this forum. But there is more views in here
and I think a precious life of a 15 year old girl needs all her help.

I hope the trolls stay away from this thread and the TRUE Warriors read
this and say a prayer for her and her family.

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Old 04-16-2009, 10:27 PM   #2
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I chipped in and also tweeted. There are a lot of Warriors on Twitter and other social networking sites - we should be able to reach an awful lot of people.

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Haven't got much, but me and my family have our health and for that I am thankful.
A little coming your way.

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Sent out a Tweet and a little donation...

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Old 04-16-2009, 10:38 PM   #5
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For some reason I do not feel an urge to donate.

Looks like macyjohns.com website is registered to internet marketer William Surrency (Will Surren?) who also owns such domains as:
weconsolidatecards.com
insomniaforidiots.com
and others. Many of them are 1-page salesletters for stuff.

Maybe I wrong in this.

Spam?
I don't know.

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Well maybe Mike got duped, but if he is asking here he doesn't think it is a con.
Good enough for me.

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For some reason I do not feel an urge to donate.

Looks like macyjohns.com website is registered to internet marketer William Surrency (Will Surren?) who also owns such domains as:
weconsolidatecards.com
insomniaforidiots.com
and others. Many of them are 1-page salesletters for stuff.

Maybe I wrong in this.

Spam?
I don't know.

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That is because you did not read the website. He is the one who set up the site
and his name is on the bottom of the salutation for crying out loud. So before you
do your "WHOIS" detective work, just read the site and the explanation as
well as who signed the page.

Here is the email I got from him today.
2009-04-16_2253

He is also going to be at Anik's Event in May in Vegas as well as mine and
he and I are having dinner. The family is very thankful. If you do not want
to be a part of helping, that is cool. But be responsible and do better research
when warning people not to donate to help a child that is very sick and would
die without the warm help from the otherwise WONDERFUL people in this forum.

Your scarcity mentality is blinding you. That is really your problem. I knew
people would say things like this. Thus I made the "troll" remark.

Sorry to come down on you. But it saddens me how scared people are
about the truth that they think this or anything like this is a scam.

This can happen to ANYONE of us or our families.

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Old 04-16-2009, 10:55 PM   #8
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That is because you did not read the website. He is the one who set up the site
and his name is on the bottom of the salutation for crying out loud. So before you
do your "WHOIS" detective work, just read the site and the explanation as
well as who signed the page.

Here is the email I got from him today.
2009-04-16_2253

He is also going to be at Anik's Event in May in Vegas as well as mine and
he and I are having dinner. The family is very thankful. If you do not want
to be a part of helping, that is cool. But be responsible and do better research
when warning people not to donate to help a child that is very sick and would
die without the warm help from the otherwise WONDERFUL people in this forum.

Your scarcity mentality is blinding you. That is really your problem. I knew
people would say things like this. Thus I made the "troll" remark.

Sorry to come down on you. But it saddens me how scared people are
about the truth that they think this or anything like this is a scam.

This can happen to ANYONE of us or our families.

Mike Filsaime
I think you are way off base Mike. Anyone can pretend to be anyone on this forum as well as the internet. Doing due diligence is a great thing when dealing on the internet. It has nothing to do with scarcity mentality.

I was about to donate as well but the website put me off. If you want to say I have a scarcity mindset than have at it. Those comments just make you look bad.

I love to help others out. I just don't want to get scammed doing it. There has been a few that have come here and taken advantage of good people.

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Donation sent

It's for a child warriors - Dig deep.

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If you guys do a little searching around you will see that there are yard sales being organized in Florida as well as other activities to raise funds for this girl.

Nobody wants to be had, but I would honestly feel worse knowing that I didn't send a couple bucks to a child that had cancer and could die then knowing that I got taken for $100.

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If you guys do a little searching around you will see that there are yard sales being organized in Florida as well as other activities to raise funds for this girl.

Nobody wants to be had, but I would honestly feel worse knowing that I didn't send a couple bucks to a child that had cancer and could die then knowing that I got taken for $100.
Which child would you like to get the donation Jeremy? The real child that needs it or the scammer pretending to be a child.

Searching is due diligence. I also would investigate any non profit organization before giving money. I would rather people that need the money, get the money.

I do think it is fair of Mike to say others are a troll for asking a legitimate question.

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O.K. So do not donate. That is your choice. I stand by my words becuase
the person tried to "out" William when it was CLEAR that he wrote the
letter and admits to helping the family in the text and SIGNS his name.

Maybe Macy should do the HTML from her sick bed?

So I simply stated that the person did not share anything with his "Detective" work
and that what he stated was already transparent.

So, what is your point?

The fact remains that there are scams. But I did look into it and was satisfied
and I would think that my reputation would add some credence to the
reality that a young girl is very ill.

If you TRULY want to help if this is real. I can arrange to get the family's
phone number and you can call the parents or perhaps be blessed to speak
to Macy and offer her some nice encouraging words keep her cheer up.

Let me know. I can do that if you really do want to help and you can not
see the truth in this for what it is worth.

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Well if it's a scam then I have just been had.
After all Uncle Sam just got me for $1600 yesterday so a little more to help someone isn't going to kill me.

Give them the benefit of doubt and donate a little.

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Donation sent.

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Which child would you like to get the donation Jeremy? The real child that needs it or the scammer pretending to be a child.

Searching is due diligence. I also would investigate any non profit organization before giving money. I would rather people that need the money, get the money.

I do think it is fair of Mike to say others are a troll for asking a legitimate question.
The guy did not ask a legitimate question. He posed the fact that it may be a scam because it is registered to an internet marketer based on his research.

All I said was if he read the site, he would see THAT SAME GUY made the site and
signed it on the page and explained how he organized the site to help the family.

Maybe it was unfair to call him a troll. But he was mistaken and was not helping and
had HE done his due diligence he could have spared himself from saying what
we already know without casting the doubt of a scam when it is simply a family
that needs help.

Again, I am not going to spend time on the squeaky wheels here. This is it I hope
on that stuff.

Thanks again to all of you that can see the forest through the trees.

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My point is your an asshole who thinks everyone that doesn't do what you think should be done has a scarcity mindset.

If you want to talk mindset than you should have yours checked. You set the mood of this thread by talking about trolls in your opening post.
I saw you sent a donation. Thanks for that. That will really help.

If you feel better calling me an asshole, in this thread, than I will take that one
with a grain of salt for the good of the help this family will get.

As for talking about trolls in my start of the thread. It was really referring to the ones like that guy that said "I hope she dies".

I apologized already for being too harsh to call the other person a troll. I was off base
proving my point to him that he himself did not do good research. Let's move on.

I am sure the family will really appreciate your help

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My God people.

Either donate or don't, but why come here and blast someone for trying to help.
It isn't like it is someone with no reputation and no post trying to scam you.
Filsaime isn't going to run a scam on this forum that has probably been very good to him.

Just my take,

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Come on guys, lets not turn this thread in one of THOSE threads...

It's a 15 year old girl for crying out loud!!!!

Either Donate... or move on!!!

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The guy did not ask a legitimate question. He posed the fact that it may be a scam because it is registered to an internet marketer based on his research.

All I said was if he read the site, he would see THAT SAME GUY made the site and
signed it on the page and explained how he organized the site to help the family.

Maybe it was unfair to call him a troll. But he was mistaken and was not helping and
had HE done his due diligence he could have spared himself from saying what
we already know without casting the doubt of a scam when it is simply a family
that needs help.

Again, I am not going to spend time on the squeaky wheels here. This is it I hope
on that stuff.

Thanks again to all of you that can see the forest through the trees.

Mike
He wrote Spam with a question mark. Normally a question mark is followed by a question. He was helping fellow members here. This is what we do because of the amount of scammers that do come here.

People are really good here. It is easy for them to get scammed. I would rather people question and have the facts come out. I don't think it will hurt donations once you correct the facts.

You are right, we don't need to continue with this.

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My God people.

Either donate or don't, but why come here and blast someone for trying to help.
It isn't like it is someone with no reputation and no post trying to scam you.
Filsaime isn't going to run a scam on this forum that has probably been very good to him.

Just my take,

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Jim, we had someone running on this board pretending to be Kim Standerline just last month.

So what is your point again?

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Ok so let's keep the donations going.

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Donation sent. God bless her.

I have daughters and something like this could strike them too. I would be devestated. Nobody is immuned. I also just learned last weekend that a family friend of 30 years is in ICU for liver problems and he may not make it.

I take health issues seriously and compassionately. Life is too precious.

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Donation sent. RT.

And for the skepticism, you give with your heart, not wondering whether or not something is a scam.
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Donation sent. RT.

And for the skepticism, you give with your heart, not wondering whether or not something is a scam.
lol Your philosophy is why there are so many scammers out there.

I want people that need the money to get it. I call it smart. Luckily this girl has all of us to help out.

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Jim, we had someone running on this board pretending to be Kim Standerline just last month.

So what is your point again?
No point. I gave my donation. Do what you think is best.

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It wasn't much but donation sent. My prayers go out to her and her family.
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Guys, I need to get some rest.

Thanks for all the donations. I will communicate with the family and report back.

Maybe we can get a pic from her to us.

Thanks for allowing this thread to get back on track.

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MemberWing, I just joined this site a few min ago. I was just told about this site tonight so I def. don't want to rant. I understand you being skeptical, as no one here knows me. Yes I own about 40 domain names most of which I have not developed yet. Several are article sites with adsense and yes some are one-page CB sites. I hope that having these sites is not a bad thing. I am trying to become an Internet marketer and slowly I am. If you look at my name domain I list all of my domains. I am not trying to hide anything.

Macy is my 1st cousins daughter, which makes her my 2nd cousin. Yes, she is a real person and and everything on her website is 100% true. She is at Wolfson Children's Hospital Jacksonville, Florida please verify this. I ask that you please remove your reply as this could cause someone not to donate and Macy would be the one to suffer.

Think about it, when someone needs help we all do what we know. I know how to build websites and I told her and her mom and dad that I would do this for her. I promise you this is no scam. Please verify and post a reply to your message to confirm what you find out from Wolfson Children's Hospital Jacksonville, Florida.

Another thing, if this were a scam, would I post the bank account number and routing number on the website. You can also call VyStar Credit Union and tell them you would like to donate to the donations account for Macy Johns Cancer Patient in care of William Surrency Jr. They can confirm the information as well. The account number is on Macy's site.

Much respect guys.. Mike I hate that this caused you all of this time tonight. And thank you for posting

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Donation Sent. RT.

Cynicism I don't have much time for. However, skepticism is by and large a healthy thing, so I get where Thomas is coming from. There are indeed scheming shysters roaming around - some find this forum from time to time.

Tomorrow I'll be blessed to watch hundreds of teens around Macy's age try their hearts out at a track and field meet. Some will win, some lose - but all get to go home safe and sound. It would be good if this young lady has a fighting chance to do likewise.

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I also shot this out to one of our lists....

Hopefully, it will bring a couple more dollars to the fund.

Let Macy knows that she's got a whole army pulling for her

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Thank you guys! I updated the meter at 2am. The account is at $4,889.72 USD. You guys are awesome!
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Thank you guys! I updated the meter at 2am. The account is at $4,889.72 USD. You guys are awesome!
How much are you guys trying to raise...or is it just as much as possible?

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If you want to talk mindset than you should have yours checked. You set the mood of this thread by talking about trolls in your opening post.
The man has a point. I thought Mike started off on the wrong tack too. And being aggressive to the guy who was doing his due diligence didn't help matters. Mike, you are not a GOD. You are just like the rest of us. Maybe you've ripped more money out of this game but "that don't impress me much". But acts of kindness do. So I've chipped in.

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For now we want to stop at $10,000. I don't know if they will need more latter but for now 10 should get them by for a little while. I want to be careful not to raise more than they need because I don't know what they would need to do with any additional funds. I guess they could put in a trust for her if that happened but I am not sure. Given that, I will disable the buttons as soon as possible after the account reaches 10k. The site will stay online for Macy to update and I think I will show her mom and dad how to set up an adsense account for her.
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This is a young life.Many people are in need of help.

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Glad we can help !! Anything for a Kid, and lets get that 10k by end of Friday !
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Glad to see we are making progress with this Will,
let's get this "money issue" nuked in the you know
what so Macy can concentrate on getting better!!

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Donation sent.
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Guys,

I checked Mike's twitter page here: Mike Filsaime (mikefilsaime) on Twitter, you can find some messages about the donation.

For me it's a confirmation it's the 'real' Mike who posted this and not someone who would have hijacked his WF account.

Mike, sorry for checking but on internet, we never know...

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I have a 20 year old daughter who is the light of my life.

Donation sent because I understand.

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My daughter is 26 and just announced she is getting married.
I couldn't imagine life without her in it.
I hope and pray Macy gets the help she needs and gets to announce her engagement sometime in the near future.
No kid should have to go through this.
Kick ass Macy.

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Donations sent... come on Warriors... the goal is only $10,000 .. we can do this by midnight UK time... ya got 3 hours 25 mins

I'm off to tweet...

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Donation sent, along with some prayers.
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Mike,

I love to donate money for things like this, so no problems here.

But I really have to ask you 2 questions, just to get things clear.

- People will think (at least it came to my mind) that you are doing this to show us that you are a real guy, with human feelings etc. It's good for your status, and will eventually be good for your sales. You could simply send an e-mail to all of your partners asking them the same thing and getting tons more money... right?

That said, I always thought you have millions of dollars, and now you're asking this warrior forum to help... So my second questions is: How expensive is this treatment?

Please note that I'm just curious and in no way was trying to offend you!

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I love to donate money for things like this, so no problems here.

But I really have to ask you 2 questions, just to get things clear.

- People will think (at least it came to my mind) that you are doing this to show us that you are a real guy, with human feelings etc. It's good for your status, and will eventually be good for your sales. You could simply send an e-mail to all of your partners asking them the same thing and getting tons more money... right?

That said, I always thought you have millions of dollars, and now you're asking this warrior forum to help... So my second questions is: How expensive is this treatment?

Please note that I'm just curious and in no way was trying to offend you!

Regards,

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Dennis, what exactly are you saying? Are you saying that Mike should just pay for the treatments?

If so than I think you are completely off base with your comments. Why should Mike pay for the treatment?

First, you don't know how Mike spends his money or what other charities he gives to.

Second, you don't know if Mike didn't contact some of his other partners.

Third, it doesn't matter since a lot of us want to help this girl so why shouldn't we?

Just because someone makes millions of dollars doesn't mean they need to shoulder all the charities and responsibilities for everyone in need.

It is all of our responsibility not just a selected few.

I am not attacking you but want you to think about what I said.

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Dennis, what exactly are you saying? Are you saying that Mike should just pay for the treatments?

If so than I think you are completely off base with your comments. Why should Mike pay for the treatment?

First, you don't know how Mike spends his money or what other charities he gives to.

Second, you don't know if Mike didn't contact some of his other partners.

Third, it doesn't matter since a lot of us want to help this girl so why shouldn't we?

Just because someone makes millions of dollars doesn't mean they need to shoulder all the charities and responsibilities for everyone in need.

It is all of our responsibility not just a selected few.

I am not attacking you but want you to think about what I said.

I agree Thomas



I can say I just tweeted I don't know how effective it will be, but I have 353 followers so I guess it gives some money in the end


PS. Thomas I don't know if I get the video recorded tonight(I'm PatrickP from your forum)
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I love to donate money for things like this, so no problems here.

But I really have to ask you 2 questions, just to get things clear.

- People will think (at least it came to my mind) that you are doing this to show us that you are a real guy, with human feelings etc. It's good for your status, and will eventually be good for your sales. You could simply send an e-mail to all of your partners asking them the same thing and getting tons more money... right?

That said, I always thought you have millions of dollars, and now you're asking this warrior forum to help... So my second questions is: How expensive is this treatment?

Please note that I'm just curious and in no way was trying to offend you!

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Hi Mike,

I sent out a tweet and brought attention to this thread.
If they just went to the site, I reckon that they might
not do anything... but if they understood where and
why you're doing this. They might be more willing to
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Hope it does!

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Thanks Thomas,

Now I have to figure out how to pay for it.

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