ARGO would have been a great film... If Ben Affleck hadn't have been in it.

Jimmy Carter on "Argo": 90% of the contributions to the ideas and the consummation of the plan was Canadian," Carter said. "And the movie gives almost full credit to the American CIA. And with that exception, the movie is very good..."

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kellyyarnsbro

11 years ago

Argo would have been a great movie...In fact it was, and Ben did it more better when he joined with film. Thumbs up for Ben.

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thunderbird

11 years ago

Film industry folk win Oscars. Oscars, if they can, win a Chuck Norris.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Film industry folk win Oscars. Oscars, if they can, win a Chuck Norris.

Well. put it this way...Oscar will win a Chuck Norris, before Chuck Norris ever wins an Oscar...:p

(Unless, of course - he decides to become a producer...)

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

Well. put it this way...Oscar will win a Chuck Norris, before Chuck Norris ever wins an Oscar...:p

(Unless, of course - he decides to become a producer...)

WHAT!?!?!?!? He is a star. OF COURSE he has produced! Here are some of his credits:

Inside World Combat League (TV movie) (executive producer)

2005 The Cutter (executive producer)

2005 Walker, Texas Ranger: Trial by Fire (TV movie) (executive producer)

2004 Birdie and Bogey (executive producer)

2002 The President's Man: A Line in the Sand (TV movie) (executive producer)

2000 The President's Man (TV movie) (executive producer)

1995-2001 Walker, Texas Ranger (TV series) (executive producer - 12 episodes)
- Thunderhawk (2000) (executive producer)
- Livegirls.now (1999) (executive producer)
- Lost Boys (1999) (executive producer)
- On the Border (1998) (executive producer)
- Eyes of a Ranger (1998) (executive producer)
See all 12 episodes »

1999 Sons of Thunder (TV series) (executive producer - 6 episodes)
- Thunder by Your Side (1999) (executive producer)
- Underground (1999) (executive producer)
- Lost & Found (1999) (executive producer)
- Daddy's Girl (1999) (executive producer)
- Fighting Back (1999) (executive producer)
See all 6 episodes »

1998 Logan's War: Bound by Honor (TV movie) (executive producer)

1992 Sidekicks (executive producer)

The Oscar is much like the Nobel peace prize is now. WORTHLESS!!!!!

If Alfred were alive today, he would probably sue all those "winners", etc, and lock up the head guys for FRAUD! What a DISGRACE!

Steve

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Originally Posted by seasoned

The Oscar is much like the Nobel peace prize is now. WORTHLESS!!!!!

Well, the truth is an Oscar is far from worthless. First of all they are worth at the very least a few hundred dollars because they are made from gold plated pewter. Then there's the fact that an Oscar winning movie will stay in theaters longer and can earn the movie tens of millions more in revenue. Then, if you are an individual who wins your salary can dramatically increase, especially if you are a best actor or actress winner. Heck, even just getting nominated can help a movie make tens of millions, or hundreds of millions more. The King's Speech was initially projected to gross $30 million. After receiving 12 Academy Award nominations, the revised estimate is over $200 million. This was before it won best movie of the year! So, the Oscar if actually very valuable. The Nobel Prize is worth about $1.5 million each. Of course the peace prize has been controversial but again, it's hardly worthless.
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MoneyMagnetMagnate

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

WHAT!?!?!?!? He is a star. OF COURSE he has produced! Here are some of his credits:

Inside World Combat League (TV movie) (executive producer)

2005 The Cutter (executive producer)

2005 Walker, Texas Ranger: Trial by Fire (TV movie) (executive producer)

2004 Birdie and Bogey (executive producer)

2002 The President's Man: A Line in the Sand (TV movie) (executive producer)

2000 The President's Man (TV movie) (executive producer)

1995-2001 Walker, Texas Ranger (TV series) (executive producer - 12 episodes)
– Thunderhawk (2000) (executive producer)
– Livegirls.now (1999) (executive producer)
– Lost Boys (1999) (executive producer)
– On the Border (1998) (executive producer)
– Eyes of a Ranger (1998) (executive producer)
See all 12 episodes »

1999 Sons of Thunder (TV series) (executive producer - 6 episodes)
– Thunder by Your Side (1999) (executive producer)
– Underground (1999) (executive producer)
– Lost & Found (1999) (executive producer)
– Daddy's Girl (1999) (executive producer)
– Fighting Back (1999) (executive producer)
See all 6 episodes »

1998 Logan's War: Bound by Honor (TV movie) (executive producer)

1992 Sidekicks (executive producer)

The Oscar is much like the Nobel peace prize is now. WORTHLESS!!!!!

If Alfred were alive today, he would probably sue all those "winners", etc, and lock up the head guys for FRAUD! What a DISGRACE!

Steve

OK - correction - I was going to add a good producer...would you nominate any of those shows for an Emmy? Much less an Oscar? (in 8yrs, WTR was nominated for 1 primetime Emmy, in individual sound editing.)

Chuck needs to put his money into an 'Argo' instead of a total gym...:p
'Executive Producer' is something your agent tacks on to your contract when you agree to be in the movie...

(there are some people who actually do executive produce their movies and others with success - like George Clooney, for instance...who just won an Oscar for what? Argo.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

OK - correction - I was going to add a good producer...would you nominate any of those shows for an Emmy? Much less an Oscar? (in 8yrs, WTR was nominated for 1 primetime Emmy, in individual sound editing.)

Chuck needs to put his money into an 'Argo' instead of a total gym...:p
'Executive Producer' is something your agent tacks on to your contract when you agree to be in the movie...

(there are some people who actually do executive produce their movies and others with success - like George Clooney, for instance...who just won an Oscar for what? Argo.

I think EXECUTIVE producer simply means they put down most of the money to produce it. The DIRECTOR is supposed to have the vision and get everything to fit. The ACTORS simply ACT! SURE, they might put their own twist on, and might suggest changes, but the director has to OK it. If it goes beyond the scope of what the producers want, THEY have to ok it.

I don't believe they award producers. They DO award directors and actors.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

I think EXECUTIVE producer simply means they put down most of the money to produce it. The DIRECTOR is supposed to have the vision and get everything to fit. The ACTORS simply ACT! SURE, they might put their own twist on, and might suggest changes, but the director has to OK it. If it goes beyond the scope of what the producers want, THEY have to ok it.

I don't believe they award producers. They DO award directors and actors.

Steve

"Best Picture" awards producers - i.e.:was George Clooney in Argo? No. Was he in "Moneyball"? No. Was he a producer on both those pictures and stand onstage when the Oscar was presented? Yup.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

"Best Picture" awards producers - i.e.:was George Clooney in Argo? No. Was he in "Moneyball"? No. Was he a producer on both those pictures and stand onstage when the Oscar was presented? Yup.

Well I DID say I don't BELIEVE they do. I don't follow such things closely.

Steve

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thunderbird

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

Well. put it this way...Oscar will win a Chuck Norris, before Chuck Norris ever wins an Oscar...:p

(Unless, of course - he decides to become a producer...)

That was good. My comeback for this didn't cut it, so it was taken off the stage.

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garyv

11 years ago

I actually liked the movie a lot. That is until I came in here and watched that interview with Jimmy Carter. I now pretty much can't stand it. - I absolutely hate it when Hollywood takes liberty with real history - and they've been doing it a LOT lately. If you're going to make a fictional movie - then make it completely fiction. There are too many dimwits in this country that believe everything they see. (of course I say that completely believing that the movie was accurate) = I'm a dimwit.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by garyv

I actually liked the movie a lot. That is until I came in here and watched that interview with Jimmy Carter. I now pretty much can't stand it. - I absolutely hate it when Hollywood takes liberty with real history - and they've been doing it a LOT lately. If you're going to make a fictional movie - then make it completely fiction. There are too many dimwits in this country that believe everything they see. (of course I say that completely believing that the movie was accurate) = I'm a dimwit.

Then again, what DO you believe? The official story was apparently that the US(IIRC) ambassador was the one to do it. THEN, they recently said he took full credit merely to avoid a backlash from IRAN who accused EVERYONE of being a CIA spy. And NOW, Carter is saying that it is actually the CANADIAN ambassador that did it.

The IRAN hostage crisis was about the first thing I cared about politically, because it was such an unmitigated disaster! But I was young, and still didn't want to watch the present day version of the keystone cops.

OK, WHICH is it? Do we really care at this point? They took forever to come back, and the relations were tainted from just before then until NOW.

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codenaam

11 years ago

Great movie, great acting, great suspense! Great that it won an Oscar... But hey, if you don't like an actor it probably isn't your cup of tea.

By the way... You quote Friedrich Nietzsche in your signature... I don't think you know this very disturbed dude is behind the concept of the Ubermensch, a concept adopted by another dude called Adolf who sort of is responsible for the death of 55 million people in the 20th century... It ain't great PR to promote such people...

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by codenaam

By the way... You quote Friedrich Nietzsche in your signature... I don't think you know this very disturbed dude is behind the concept of the Ubermensch, a concept adopted by another dude called Adolf who sort of is responsible for the death of 55 million people in the 20th century... It ain't great PR to promote such people...

Nietsche didn't create the world, he just pointed out the obvious (or un-obvious) depending how you look at it.
Nietsche didn't create Hitler, either.

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ARGO would have been a great film... If Ben Affleck hadn't have been in it.

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