The Stupidest Thing I've Ever Seen

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Example Of Extreme Stupidity

"To obtain a figure for South Africa, the authors averaged IQ studies done on different ethnic groups, resulting in a figure of 72. The figures for Colombia, Peru, and Singapore were arrived at in a similar manner.
In some cases, the IQ of a country is estimated by averaging the IQs of countries that are not actually neighbors of the country in question. For example, Kyrgyzstan's IQ is estimated by averaging the IQs of Iran and Turkey, neither of which is close to Kyrgyzstan--China, which is a geographic neighbor, is not counted as such by Lynn and Vanhanen."
  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    What's the problem? My IQ was determined by averaging the number of licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop by fifth graders in Thunder Bay, Canada.
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  • Profile picture of the author taskemann
    I don't see the problem here. It's well known that human developed higher IQ the further north man settled down in order to survive. Because if you live in warm Africa, you only need to take a banana down from a tree and eat it in order to survive, while you need varuious tools, skills and shelter in order to survive far up in the cold north.

    And besides, Africans have had 50,000+ years to build up a civilized civilization, but haven't managed to do it yet while "the white man" did it in matter of a few thousand years.

    Do you see my point?
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by taskemann View Post

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      Do you see my point?
      Your point was not related to what I posted. If a point you believe in -- whatever it may be -- is arrived at stupidly, it actually works against it. Do you see my point?
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      • Profile picture of the author taskemann
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        Your point was not related to what I posted. If a point you believe in -- whatever it may be -- is arrived at stupidly, it actually works against it. Do you see my point?
        It was very related to "IQ and the Wealth of Nations". Why deny and call it for "stupid" when it's a fact?
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      Yes, I do. Africans are smart enough to live in their environment without destroying it.

      Smart enough to stay out of the cold, too.
      Not sure that's what he meant.

      Africa is the seat of where human intelligence actually first started to show as human intelligence - beads - 135,000 year old beads, show that abstract thought was not uncommon in africa, and that people by that date were already into bling. Stone structures of that same date and possibly before (one is thought to be around 200,000 years old - it's rudimentary, but it's there), show a belief system already in place, and social order already being established.

      However - the climate IS more palatable down there and, as we know, necessity is the mother of invention, so once they were organized in to societies (tribes mostly, as is instinctual for our species), they didn't strive to "conquer" the environment - they were happy to live within it and as part of it, unlike their northern counterparts that had to devise means up the ying to survive in their less hospitable "digs". So as far as who developed technologically the furthest, well - no brainer - the northern cultures who were, more due to evolution of white skin because of sunshine (Vit D) needs.

      As far as ability - they don't lack it, they just never USED it. Right now there are several sustainable inventions coming from the tribal regions of Africa -- and are being created by....teenagers. Invasive cultures have pushed the need - and they are responding admirably.

      There are also tribes there that have a much keener introspection on their own selves because they are encouraged to remember and understand their dreams, which are extremely revealing of self. also which is a practice that has shown to be much stronger in cultures that do not have much violence or mental abnormalities among the citizens.

      So whose the smartest? Creative people who live peaceably on the land and have values that don't include needing masses of money but live creatively and vitally -- or those who are driven to continually create artificial and vapid entertainments in a basically neurotic, psychotic, and basically spiritually void culture, and have the severe, and often sociopathic, need to acquire money as well as just livable comfort?

      Those tests were fashioned and analyzed for purposes of declaring superiority and for making some extra "scratch" for the "experts".
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I'm not so sure that the people who did the study are stupid - they probably got a LOT of grant money to produce that study, so why would they care if their premises are flawed? The result was pretty valid to their wallets.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I'm not so sure that the people who did the study are stupid - they probably got a LOT of grant money to produce that study, so why would they care if their premises are flawed? The result was pretty valid to their wallets.
      I guess the only people they wanted to convince would be those who would just accept it at face value. And, like you said, those they wanted to please would be certain stuffed-wallet types who bankrolled the "study" (literally sponsored by a de facto White Supremacist organization called the "Pioneer Fund").

      I'll willingly explore anything to see if it stands up to facts, logic, and qualified peer review. That "research" didn't. Why would I willingly explore ideas that are taboo? I don't constrict my mind to please others. I would rather know the facts, even if they go against whatever prevailing accepted norms are in vogue. When I see b*llsh*t, I'll call it out. It doesn't take a genius to recognize that that study is a steaming pile of cow dung not meant to convince intelligent or intellectually honest people.
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