There probably is a thread already for me to put this in

eh, it's just saying what we all knew already.

at least the media is now admitting it.

These drugs need to be illegalized. Period. I know several people that take them (but who doesn't, they are stuffing them down every throat they can get them down). These people are extremely depressed, even while taking the drug. After listening to them rant and rave about how everything sucks so hard for awhile, I always ask them why they are taking the drug if it's not working for them. Answer is always the same - the doctor says they "need it". For what? If you are taking something to make you happier - shouldn't you be happier? People really can't think any further than to stop taking something that leaves them depressed or angry? WTF?

Our gov and FDA are allowing anyone to be fed anything if there's money in it for them. As far as I'm concerned the pharmacological companies are nothing but mass murderers that are allowed to murder just as sure as an army is allowed to by their generals.

The people with half a brain know the guns aren't to blame, and the only common denominator among the killers are mind-altering drugs.

More people would know this if the media & politicians weren't constantly trying to demonize an inanimate object.

Also, I know they aren't mainstream. But it's a start.

Kim - there's a lot of difference between perscribing meds to keep an implanted organ from being rejected and having people stuffing you full of chemicals for anything and everything they can get them down you for. There is usually no testing done on the reciepient of those drugs to find out what the chemical imbalance is. They are given as "happy" pills, for insomnia, weight, stop smoking - you name it. It's ridiculous and it's already been proven that they are nothing but placebo with dangerous side effects. What more do we need to know?

I remember when I was a teen, every doctor I went to did their best to get me to take valluum. It's really just time to stop pushing drugs on TV and it's time to stop allowing them to give us drugs just to give us something. It's a disgrace, and at this point it's actually helping to crash our whole society.

Hardly an unbiased assessment. I've also deletd the link to AmmoLand as my AV software shows that it is a "malicious site that loads software and gathers information" site.

So, what he has to say may well be right about the drugs, but the obvious bias and the fact that his site is malicious means it should not be taken as factual. Something similar from a more reliable source would be a lot more convincing.

Sorry folks, no smoking gun (pun intended) here.

Guru,
you are half right and half wrong.
Intelligent people DO know that guns are not to blame.
What they DO NOT know is the drug factor.
That is the part that is being hidden and kept out of the news.

As far as my saying the source is not main stream media,my point was main stream media is still hiding and denying the facts.

Sal,
I agree for the most part with you too.
But when I was a kid and went to the dr, most of mine were reluctant to prescribe drugs,other than antibiotics and such.
None of my drs were the type that felt a ill could cure your feeling sad moments.

People growing up today don't remember when the tv and every other form a media was't advocating you telling your dr what to give you, not the other way around.

Like you, I know more ppeople than I care to admit that take their "happy" pills every day because the dr said to,but at the same time complain daily about how unhappy they are.
I say the same thing...stop taking the damn pills.

I know several people,both men and women that have what they call restless leg syndrome. I found information from several sources that walking or even riding a bike,even a stationary one,for an hour every day or so could alleviate or at least reduce the problem. Instead of evening trying to see if that works,they would reaather just buy and take the pills,which don't work.

Same with gout.
Either through Thom and/or you I gave a friend some information about natural cures for gout. Foiund it,printed it out,told them where they could get what they needed,which actually is available at most groery stores off the shelf,and they wouldn't even try it.

Even my own transplant drs prescribed something for me that wasn't safe. I told them I wasn't comfortable taking it,but they said it was the only thing I could take.
Two hours after taking it I was in the ER with a dr and two nurses forcing the drugs they use to counteract allergic reactions.

Funny thing,after that,they suddenly found something else I could use thatw as safer.

Anyway.
We are pretty much doomed when we get people running things like the new head of the FDA.

While this article doesn't involve guns, threats are made. It also documents the effects of these mind-altering drugs, so readily available to anyone who seeks them out. This reads like a diary about a talented, well-educated young man who was able to obtain Adderall without a proper diagnosis. This practice is quite common amongst college students - as the article Kim posted, many are college/university students committing unspeakable acts. These drugs are highly addictive and far to easy to obtain.

This is incomprehensible that a Nurse Practitioner has the power to both diagnose and recommend medication.

Richard played the system and his parents were helpless in their pursuit to stop the abuse of prescribed medications. Sadly, it came to a tragic ending.

The story documents a vicious cycle of abuse by both Richard and the medical professionals.

Drowned in a Stream of Prescriptions

Um..........yes, Whatever. Yes, there is.

1. Schools get PAID a subsidy for each kid they put on these drugs. They are drugging kids to finance themselves. THAT is not only a smoking gun - it's criminal child abuse.

2. Read the "warning" labels that come with many of these drugs -- "may cause suicidal or homicidal tendencies". Um............how much MORE of a statement that they are unsafe do we need?

3. The article might have been published on a BS site - but if you research the issue, you will find the info published by very credible medical researchers.

4. We have a for profit medical industrial complex that suppresses and edits research at will. Anyone who trusts medical info published in a medical journal is crazy. You need to go back to original research, find who is independent and who was subsidized by a conflicting interest - then read the independent studies. The very seldom look like the same research.

5. It's complete stupidity and genocidal sociopathy to give someone with anger or depression strong enough to need drugging a drug that is labeled to cause "suicidal and homicidal tendencies".

My neighbor just took a week off her job. She's been under a lot of pressure but for the most part operates on an even keel. Suddenly she broke down and started crying - and couldn't stop. She cried off and on for days. She went to a doctor who was more than willing to prescribe a very dangerous psychiatric drug without even running tests. She refused and went to a natureopath who DID test her blood. She had a chemical deficiency of some sort and they gave her a prescription for the chemical (natural hormone type thing) and it worked just fine. She only needs to take it if she gets bad again. Had she listened to the first doctor she'd be taking a dangerous addictive drug forever.

@Sal

Sal, in the article I posted, Richard couldn't be convinced that the pills he was taking were dangerous as he said (I'm paraphrasing here) "the doctor said they would hurt him" and he "trusted" the doctor.

Too many people putting their faith in doctors when they should be doing their due diligence and researching the side effects of these drugs.

Richard wanted the drugs and lied to get them, so I doubt anything anyone said to him would have made any difference.

I'm glad your neighbor didn't take those drugs.

This post is for my wife, she would post if she could, and you would all have to sit through a really long rant about these kinds of drugs, followed up with the question.

How many people who smoke pot have been involved in violent crimes? Or went to the doctor for depression? Pot is still, in our state, illegal, yet these drugs are available after a short visit with your doctor.

I'm going to post this and then send her the link. If no one here appreciates this post, she will.

Sal, with the article Kim posted, I have to wonder how many of those individuals sought out anti-psychotic drugs for the sole purpose of getting high and without actually needing that medication for a legitimate medical reason?

You know as well as anyone, many doctors are only too happy to oblige.

That is EXACTLY right.

Do a quick search for "Milgrim Experiment" then watch the video.

Hell, I'll post it so you guys dont have to search at all:


It's a reproduction of the experiment, but the results were still the same.

Even when the "subject" was clearly in pain, the "doctors" kept pushing the participants to continue..

All the way up to administering a shock so powerful that it would have killed the person, had they REALLY been hooked up to the machine.

The point is - far too many people just "trust" someone, simply because they are wearing a white coat....