by Slin
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Ugh so I figured I had to rant somewhere.

I'm in college trying to get into a really competitive business program.

There's a class that I'm taking (econ) that I was getting pretty good grades for, it's a core program to get into this business school.

Anyway, I had a solid B in the class, studied for the final for the last 3 days, went in to take it today, and...bombed it.

Now i'm going to get what looks like a C- in the class, which means there's no way i'm going to get into the business program here.

It's just disappointing. I mean why am I even in college? I am starting to do pretty well online, I seem to be doing fine with business stuff on my own.

Yet I'm taking valuable time away from internet marketing to get C's in classes, and to pay to get C's in classes.

I dunno, just felt like I had to rant somewhere. Now I gotta decide on a new major.
  • Profile picture of the author TruriSt
    Originally Posted by Slin View Post

    It's just disappointing. I mean why am I even in college? I am starting to do pretty well online, I seem to be doing fine with business stuff on my own.

    Yet I'm taking valuable time away from internet marketing to get C's in classes, and to pay to get C's in classes.

    I dunno, just felt like I had to rant somewhere. Now I gotta decide on a new major.
    You do now pretty well online, what if not soon? I don't know how long you are in business, but the world changes very fast. After the third world connected to the internet, and more people get connected to the internet, making money online will be hard soon or may not possible.

    I had the same thoughts like you and i was in college as well while I was earning good online. I thought about to quit the college. Today i make some money online too and i am studieng electrical engineering and I won't give it up for any money in the world. If you earn some money, try to earn more, but don't leave your education that's the only security you can have (if you do something what is always needed). To have money is good, everyone can earn money, having money with education is even better. Just look at the people with money but no education.

    If you are one of the top gurus your business may stay for a long time. But if you are just having small business, promoting other peoples staff, this may won't hold for long, so don't stick to that.
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  • Profile picture of the author serryjw
    Another perspective as probably one of the few seniors on forum....FINISH your undergraduate degree. Take time off to smell the roses to decide WHAT graduate degree you want to pay for a LOT of years. IF you are doing well online maybe that will be the directions you should go with your graduate work. It's NOT about the degrees but rather what kinda lifestyle you want? Security/Income from a JOB, JOB or the flexibility from being self employed? You can ALWAYS go back in 5-10 years for grad work.
    Good Luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
      Take a full day. Go somewhere where you can really think (for me I like walking).

      Dream deeply. What do you really value in life and why.
      If you can't answer why then you really don't know.

      What path must you take to obtain what you value?
      And answer why for that as well.

      Then start on that path and don't let anything stop you.

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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Stay in school.
    Take the class again and raise your GPA.
    If you don't, you'll always regret it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Slin View Post

    Now I gotta decide on a new major.
    It doesn't matter what the exact subject is.

    It's just the process of doing it, and the thinking/learning skills acquired during that process, that matter.

    Education is about what stays with you long after all the "precise stuff you learned" has been forgotten. With occasional vocational exceptions like business, law, accounting and medicine, it isn't really about "earning money", and it shouldn't be. My "formal, academic education" has been majorly and directly useful to me in setting up and running my internet marketing business successfully: I wouldn't be nearly so successful without it, because I wouldn't have developed the judgement and learning and analytical skills necessary to apply to new and different and unrelated situations.

    And of course that's the true purpose and value of education, or "why you're in college".

    Originally Posted by Slin View Post

    there's no way i'm going to get into the business program here.
    That might not necessarily be such a bad thing? The chances are, still, that you'll be more successful in your internet marketing business through having acquired the judgement, analytical and learning skills involved in doing a college degree, whether it's business-related or not. And good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author TruriSt
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Education is about what stays with you long after all the "precise stuff you learned" has been forgotten. With occasional vocational exceptions like business, law, accounting and medicine, it isn't really about "earning money", and it shouldn't be. My "formal, academic education" has been majorly and directly useful to me in setting up and running my internet marketing business successfully: I wouldn't be nearly so successful without it, because I wouldn't have developed the judgement and learning and analytical skills necessary to apply to new and different and unrelated situations.

      And of course that's the true purpose and value of education, or "why you're in college".
      Thats exactly what I wanted to say above but couldnt because of my english..
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I graduated in a field that isn't really all that great for job security. It was a bitch, too - because I took 2 majors and 2 minors and had no time for much else for those years. AND - I am not getting rich because of it.

    Know what? I would do it all over again. Know why? Because I dig the hell out of knowing the subjects I took - being able to hypothesize, analyze, and synthesize information from all sorts of fields into one comprehensive whole. Can't do that without the education. And - I can lose a job, but as long as I stay away from stuff like GMO foods and fluoridated water, I still have my mind no matter what.

    Stay in school and take anything and everything that's rocks your world. You'll never regret it.
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    • Profile picture of the author lcombs
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I graduated in a field that isn't really all that great for job security. It was a bitch, too - because I took 2 majors and 2 minors and had no time for much else for those years. AND - I am not getting rich because of it.

      Know what? I would do it all over again. Know why? Because I dig the hell out of knowing the subjects I took - being able to hypothesize, analyze, and synthesize information from all sorts of fields into one comprehensive whole. Can't do that without the education. And - I can lose a job, but as long as I stay away from stuff like GMO foods and fluoridated water, I still have my mind no matter what.

      Stay in school and take anything and everything that's rocks your world. You'll never regret it.
      I've always thought that if I ever hit the lottery I'd become a "professional student".
      To be able to take the classes that interest me and not have the pressure would be great.
      Just to have knowledge for knowledge sake.
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      • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
        Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

        Just to have knowledge for knowledge sake.
        That's what the internet used to be for.

        at least that is how i used it. I remember when it was just a bunch of proffessors
        and true blue nerds... truth be told, i liked it better then. ..
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  • Profile picture of the author wlasikiewicz
    Your in college to give yourself a better future. Make the most of it and don't waste a second.
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  • Profile picture of the author cpoalmighty
    You are in college because you always need a back up plan. Everyone needs a back up plan and different people will call it different things. For example, when I was doing my CFP program it was known as Diversifying your portfolio (investment) for investors. Even investors know how the world works and they need to be ready for anything. Stick it through. Give it another shot and you will not be sorry at all. While business is good for you now, do not solely rely upon that one aspect of your life because you need to diversify as well. Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    Well, the only thing I've learnt in college is "how to learn". That's it. The rest of it is just waste of time. I never knew I could know a lot about something in just 2 days. But, now since you are already enrolled, it might help if you'd improve your grades.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    @theOP:

    You're going to have to figure out your own reasons for taking postsecondary education. If you go for your parents', or other people's expectations, you'll probably fail out. I know. It's not something I share, maybe about once a year, but I failed out the first time I went to university. It was my first time living away from my parents, and because my birthday is at the end of the year, I was 17. Procrastination was my M.O. and, most importantly, I didn't know how to learn. Hopefully this story won't bore you; I'm expecting that it will trigger some realizations for you.

    3 terms and I found myself required to withdraw, and working late night as a waiter. Yup. I thought my life was over. That was it for the rest of my life: I'd missed my chance. Not because I was stupid, but because I hadn't wanted to be there.

    I worked for a year, rented houses with friends and had a good time. Got that out of my system. Then a friend suggested a program to me at a college. Instead of the BS approach of "take whatever courses are available by the time your GPA allows you to phone register" (this was in the days before the internet--it took all day phoning in and trying again and again to connect and pick what courses were left) of the university, this college demanded you take 10 and 11 specific courses a term. Twice the normal academic courseload. Do the work, get the diploma. Very clear.

    I took it, and man did it punch the procrastination out of me. It also showed me how to systematically learn things. Nowadays I easily get impatient with people who don't have a consistent learning system under their belt, and I have to watch that.

    High school is supposed to teach you how to learn. IMO, it fails this objective.

    University is supposed to teach you how to think.

    You're not there to learn technical skills, really. Yes there is a backbone of knowledge for your field that you need to learn in order to be effective, but it's not the real reason you're there. I took 3 years of high level statistics that I pretty much NEVER use. But I can think my way through problems like that, and so when it comes to activity sampling and behavior analysis, I'm already there. And my flowcharting skills come in handy all the time.

    I finished my degree a year after the college program, taking 7 and then 5 courses and getting straight As. It was easy. I wanted to be there, I knew how to learn, and I knew how to work.

    Those habits are the most important things that I took with me from my educational experience. Not the technical skills. I'm rarely asked to solve a problem with organizational behavior. I'm almost never required to use my production and inventory management training. But I use my work ethic, my ability to rapidly learn and apply new information, and my ability to Be Here Now every day. They changed me and if I could go back to meet my 17-year old self, I'd probably pick him up and shake him by the collar.

    You will have to arrive at your own reasons for getting a postsecondary education. The process of doing so may take months or years. It's OK. Don't be in a huge rush. The risk you take of leaving college now is being sucked into some kind of work role, where you become "trapped" by what you think are monetary needs ("Well I can't quit and go back to school, because where is the money going to come from?"). The easiest time to go to college is now, while you're really young, because you have few responsibilities and few roles to trap you. Don't be too hard on yourself about it.
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      To have sex?
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