Say What You Want About William Shatner As An Actor

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Interesting. As far as his acting. He might not have been the best - but he and his crew really made that show work. Ask thousands of die-hard trekies.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I have had Tinnitus for about a decade now. Some days it is very loud and others not so bad but it is always there. Nice spot by Shatner.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Well said! I also have the problem. It comes and goes but when it is there, it is so annoying and frustrating.
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Well, here's the thing....

    He's an ass.
    I know several people who have met and worked with him and all of them say the same thing.
    "He's a complete ass"
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      He always had problems with the final front ear.
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    • Profile picture of the author KimW
      Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

      Well, here's the thing....

      He's an ass.
      I know several people who have met and worked with him and all of them say the same thing.
      "He's a complete ass"
      I have heard that too, but tinnitus is a very real problem.
      Like Tim, I have it,but I have had it closer to 20+ years.
      I recently had my hearing tested and the audiologist had a hard time finding my baseline because of how bad the noise I hear interfered.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I'm sorry to hear about the tinnitis problem

    First - I'm interested - is that blond on The Big Bang Theory really Shatner's daughter?

    Second: About Tinnitis:

    It seems that there's new evidence that tinnitus results from the brain and not ear - although there's lots of causes.

    Try N-acetyl-L-cysteine (it's an amino acid) and/or a couple of gingko supplements a couple times a day - but give it a few months to work.

    Massage sometimes help - shoulders, neck, both sides of head.

    Tinnitis is sometimes a drug reaction (ANY of them) or an allergy - so kinda watch to see if it comes on after eating anything, taking any drug, etc. It's also sometimes BP related so keep your blood pressure down - lots of foods can do that.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I'm sorry to hear about the tinnitis problem

      First - I'm interested - is that blond on The Big Bang Theory really Shatner's daughter?
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      A quick search suggested that William Shatner's daughters are in their late 40's, so the answer would have to be no.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Wow, I didn't know so many here had tinnitus. I've had it for about 16 years now.

    I'd like to see this thread be more about tinnitus and less about Shatner.

    People who don't have it don't understand what it's like. You can describe it, but they can't understand the madness of having a sound in your ear that never goes away.
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    • Profile picture of the author lcombs
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Wow, I didn't know so many here had tinnitus. I've had it for about 16 years now.

      I'd like to see this thread be more about tinnitus and less about Shatner.

      People who don't have it don't understand what it's like. You can describe it, but they can't understand the madness of having a sound in your ear that never goes away.
      Agreed.
      I apologize.
      Should have kept my personal feelings to my self.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

        Agreed.
        I apologize.
        Should have kept my personal feelings to my self.
        No apology necessary, but I appreciate the gesture. I just hoped to steer the thread in direction more useful to those of us who have tinnitus. It looks like it ran its course anyway. I guess it's hard to talk about something for which there isn't much available in the way of help or relief.

        One can hope though.
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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          No apology necessary, but I appreciate the gesture. I just hoped to steer the thread in direction more useful to those of us who have tinnitus. It looks like it ran its course anyway. I guess it's hard to talk about something for which there isn't much available in the way of help or relief.

          One can hope though.
          I tried to be useful. Tried to fit my question in at the same time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Yep, know it well.

    Mine comes from years of playing loud rock-n-roll in front of walls of speakers. Today I have a constant ringing in both ears. It is is made up of several different pitches.

    At my last hearing test, about a year ago, I couldn't hear high frequencies. Normal hearing is 20 hz (think sub-woofer) to 20 Khz.

    At 8 Khz my hearing is down 41db -that's about 85% gone, and by 10 Khz and up, I hear nothing. This means I don't hear the high harmonics at all.

    Add to that the constant ringing, and I find myself saying, "Huh?" a lot.

    "What'd ya' say? Eh what?"

    :-Don

    BTW, Shatner is famous for not wanting to sign autographs. A restaurant worker at an airport deli told me how she tricked Shatner into giving her his signature.

    When his sandwich was ready, she acted as if he was supposed to give her the receipt to claim his lunch, and she simply told him to sign it, and did so with as much authority as she could. He fell for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Don,
    I was told most of my loss was from listening to loud music from walls of speakers.

    At my last hearing test,which was April 22nd 2013,
    I was told that my percentage of hearing at normal level for the majority of people was 0% (yes,that is zero percent) in one in and 4% in the other.
    Needless to say I also was saying "huh" a lot.

    I broke down and purchased hearing aids that day. I am suppose to pick them up Monday. Talk about expensive I got the cheapest I could afford,and at that they were $1300 each. And this was at Costco.
    When I did tech support for DRS(Disability Rehabilitative Services) the department did a study of the best hearing aids and the places with the best prices,and in that study Costco won out,which is why I went there.
    I did some research myself for the cost at other places and it turnes oth that it seems Costco prices were the lowest. I paid $2600 for mine, in the retail market they seemed to range from $6000-$9000. I was amazed at the difference.

    When I say Steve's thread title I had no idea it was about a hearing problem,but I also would like s thread about hearing problems in general. Like it or not the baby boomers probably have the highest percentage of people with serious hearing loss.

    By the way, one of the major factors making me break down and admit to myself I had a hearing problem?
    I found that I was not actually hearing the advice my Drs were giving me and instead I was just watching their lips and would not and say things like "uh huh" and "yes",and then walk out of my appointments not know what the Drs had told me about my condition.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    One way to help ease tinnitus is with certain exercises. I had to see a vestibular physiotherapist. She specialised in balance. The exercises were things like nodding your head, shaking it from side to side, standing with eyes closed and feet together...all sorts of things and they did help to a certain extent but not completely.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      Mine comes from years of playng loud rock-n-roll in front of walls of speakers. Today I have a constant ringing in both ears. It is is made up of several different pitches.
      I'm sure all the loud music did its damage with me too (thank you Ted, Ozzy, Jimi, and the rest, you know who you are!), but I really didn't notice the ringing it until I started working in a loud factory. It was loud even with hearing protection. It started after working there for about 2-3 years. Could have been a timing coincidence I suppose, but I doubt it.

      Add to that the constant ringing, and I find myself saying, "Huh?" a lot.
      Yeah, me too. I find it really difficult to understand what one person is saying when there is a roomful of people talking, or some other competing sounds.

      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      Don,
      I broke down and purchased hearing aids that day.
      My brother-in-law has worn them for a long time. He really appreciates having them, so hopefully it works out that way for you too. Good luck with that.

      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      One way to help ease tinnitus is with certain exercises. I had to see a vestibular physiotherapist. She specialised in balance. The exercises were things like nodding your head, shaking it from side to side, standing with eyes closed and feet together...all sorts of things and they did help to a certain extent but not completely.
      I've never heard of this before. I might try it, along with eye exercises. I'll wait until I'm around others first though, so I can make them wonder what's wrong with me doing all this weird stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author wendallb
    I was in a live band when I was young and also shot firearms without hearing protection and worked in a automotive shop for 32 years so now I have tinnitus in both ears. One is worse than the other. My hearing doctor says I have inner ear nerve problems. I have done some research on the problem but no success as yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author ahlexis
    My suggestion is if you have tinnitus then perhaps a visit to a doctor is in order, maybe more than one. I had a hearing test done and they said I have no loss of hearing but said that it can be a symptom of something else other than hearing loss as well.

    Like Sal said, it can also come from some medications as a side effect.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by ahlexis View Post

      My suggestion is if you have tinnitus then perhaps a visit to a doctor is in order, maybe more than one. I had a hearing test done and they said I have no loss of hearing but said that it can be a symptom of something else other than hearing loss as well.

      Like Sal said, it can also come from some medications as a side effect.
      Thanks, but I'm guessing most of us have been to the doctor about it. I know I have. It's the same story every time -- nothing can be done about it.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        Thanks, but I'm guessing most of us have been to the doctor about it. I know I have. It's the same story every time -- nothing can be done about it.
        That's about time you go elsewhere. If I had listened to doctors who said "nothing we can do" I'd be dead right now and so would my dog.

        Try the gingko and try massaging the opposite side of your head that the ringing is on when you hear it. Sounds to me like a lot of it is caused by pressure areas in the brain and the massaging might just help - but researchers are finding it's on the opposite side of the head as the ringing. Worth a try anyhow. At that point I'd be trying cold/hot compresses on the opposite side, too, maybe hot towels on the shoulders. I would also watch everything - especially meds that goes in my mouth to see if my head started ringing soon after ingestion.

        I'm not one to say "nothing can be done" very easily - especially when they don't really care to find out that much if it's stuff they can't make lots of profits from.

        I have a hole in my inner ear, right? I jammed a bobby pin in my ear when I was a baby. It caused permanent damage. I can't dive deep and I can't go up in a plane without feeling like someone is stabbing me in the ear. It's excruciating. So I go to a doctor and he tells me for 10,000 bucks they can fashion an earplug for me $10,000........and not even a fix. A stupid ear plug. So one day I had to fly home to my dads house and I get an idea. I chewed a big wad of bazooka bubblegum and chewed all the sweet stickiness out of it. I get on the plane and said $10,000 bucks my ass - I have my earplug in my mouth. I stuck the gum in my ear and made sure it was fitting like a sealed plug. Not a twinge of pain the whole flight.

        Sometimes ya just got to work on things on your own, I guess. I hope you folks find whatever works.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Sal - I'm not one to take what doctors say as gospel. I've proven them wrong before. One of the doctors I've asked about it is a family friend. He wouldn't try to take advantage of me.

    The ringing is in both ears, so there is no "other side" for me. There is also no "when you hear it" either, it's constant. Thanks though.

    I bet you look cute with a wad of gum in your ear. What's your favorite flavor to wear in your ear?

    You do know you can get foam ear plugs for a couple bucks that form to your ear right?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Sal - I'm not one to take what doctors say as gospel. I've proven them wrong before. One of the doctors I've asked about it is a family friend. He wouldn't try to take advantage of me.

      The ringing is in both ears, so there is no "other side" for me. There is also no "when you hear it" either, it's constant. Thanks though.

      I bet you look cute with a wad of gum in your ear. What's your favorite flavor to wear in your ear?

      You do know you can get foam ear plugs for a couple bucks that form to your ear right?
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