If you had psychic powers...

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What will you do with it!

Oh man, i get so excited each time i think about this when im on my bed.

I do invest in the financial markets and trade them as well.

So i would imagine, wow, just imagine what will that do man!

Hahaha..

Betting on soccer, or heck any sports even if i dont give a damn about the sport.

Going to the casinos.

etc.

Then comes your "saint" mood.

Okay i shall not be selfish and do something that benefits the world.

Then here is where things get different.

If you had such super power. And you help the government, by helping their special forces fight crime and terror etc, you become their property.

Do you think they will let you go so easily? You are their "secret special weapon".

So its like either you are totally selfish. And enjoy your "normal" life.
Or be slave to the government your whole life.

Wad you guys think?
  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    I've had that discussion with my friends. Sometimes it's "if you could turn invisible", sometimes it's "If you had the power of Superman".

    Here is what I think;

    At first you would try every stupid thing any kid would think of. Watch women shower, rob banks, place sure bets, impress your friends.

    Then maybe you would try to become famous with your ability.

    But I think most adults would learn to hide their gifts.

    We used to burn witches. And that's why I would never tell anyone.

    Me? I would tell anyone, ever. I would try to help people without exposing who I was. And the government? First, they may kill you because they would see you as a threat. Maybe use you as a weapon.

    Remember, every country thinks they are the good guys. You wouldn't be "fighting evil", you'd be killing people.

    Anyway, it was fun.

    added a tad later;
    The question should also be "What are you doing with the abilities you have now?"
    With the right kind of training, we can double our speed, double our strength, memorize large amounts of information, read body language, change someone's beliefs, craft amazing works of invention and art.

    Just because these things aren't fantasies, doesn't make them useless.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    What do you mean by "If?"

    I'm looking inside your mind right now. Oooo she really is a pretty girl you have been thinking about, but don't worry, I won't reveal anything more.

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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      What do you mean by "If?"

      I'm looking inside your mind right now. Oooo she really is a pretty girl you have been thinking about, but don't worry, I won't reveal anything more.

      :-Don
      LOL Don! But Owie!

      Have you ever had a carbonated drink fizz up into your nose from your mouth? Well, you made me laugh and it happened to me as I was trying not to spit it out, haha!

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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Everyone has their own special gifts but many don't realise it. Some are super sellers. Some are great talkers. Others are great listeners. Many are great motivators, leaders, workers, technicians...everyone is different and that is why the world works.

    Now if we could eliminate things such as wars, famine, poverty, etc that would be excellent.

    I would love to win a HUGE amount of money which I would use quietly to help as many people as I could. Yes I would keep some for myself but only enough to live my life comfortably. I don't need extravagances.

    Like that lady who won $40 billion. Now that is an amount that could really do some good in the world!

    I do admit I often wonder what it would be like to fly, be invisible, be indestructible, be psychic or be able to move things with my mind too... I am sure everyone likes those ideas. It's imagination that allows people to create what used to be only fantasies but now are realities.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Yep, l suspect that it would go the same way as "Groundhog Day" initially Bill Mullay, goes rampant and lives it up, then feels isolated, and rejected, trys to escape or end it all, then at the end becomes a great force for good!


      Although in this world, you would have to keep it a secret or face the real prospect of Gov officials storming your house, etc!

      Unless predicting the future is part of the package, then you can leave them a note and suitable image!

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH............

    Einie Meanie Chili Beani ...the spirits are about to speak ~ Rocket J Squirrel
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH............

      Einie Meanie Chili Beani ...the spirits are about to speak ~ Rocket J Squirrel
      Are they friendly spirits?
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Yikes Michael!

        That is so, so, yuck! Eww!

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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Are they friendly spirits?
        Only if you don't drink too many of them!

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    Can anyone figure this guy out? Are his abilities real?

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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      Can anyone figure this guy out? Are his abilities real?
      I mean this in the most respectful way I can. Nobody can read minds.

      Every mentalist on the planet is an illusionist. No mentalist believes that they can read minds. There are plenty of books that explain how these tricks are done.

      I know how he did it, and it will ruin it for you. But I'll tell you if you like.

      That's the one thing I hate about a few mentalists. (not this guy). They try to make a few people believe that they really have powers. Kreskin does it, so does David Blaine and Chris Angel.
      Their TV shows have a lot of editing to make the tricks harder to figure out, but that's not what happened in this video.

      Great magicians can even show you how they are doing the illusion, and make it look good. Penn & Teller are like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    There's a problem with the invisibility theory.

    Imagine if it suddenly stopped working when you're in the middle of your questionable actions?



    As for being psychic/invisible/super man abilities, I'd break it down like this.

    10% profit
    (I wouldn't need to spend much time here to profit unfathomably, 10% of my efforts would suffice).

    40% sick, demented pleasure
    (Don't call me twisted. You know you'd have some fun with your special powers).

    50% benefiting humanity
    (Okay, maybe 51% would be to benefit humanity to prevent myself from being labelled a deviant).

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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      A friend of mine said "I'd love to be invisible" (One of my Comic Book collector friends).

      i said "No you wouldn't. You'd be blind, naked and would constantly fall down and bump into things"

      Then I explained how, if you are invisible, light wouldn't collect at the back of your eye, so you wouldn't be able to see. And even if there was a way to work around that...You couldn't see your arms and legs, so it would be difficult to judge where you end, but everything else begins.

      So you would be a blind person, where everyone else can see..but can't see you. So they would walk into you or hit you with a car.

      It would be a nightmare.

      I way way over think these things.

      Added later;

      I've also discussed being intangible and walking through walls. (with Comic book collector friends).

      The problem is that you wouldn't be able to move. If you are intangible, you have no weight...so there is no contact with the floor to move you forward.

      Of course, you have bigger problems now. You have no mass, so your brain cells can't fire... so you can't think. You have no muscles to contract..so you can't move, even in the same place. You can't speak, because your vocal chords won't vibrate.

      Anyway, back to writing.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        A friend of mine said "I'd love to be invisible" (One of my Comic Book collector friends).

        i said "No you wouldn't. You'd be blind, naked and would constantly fall down and bump into things"

        Then I explained how, if you are invisible, light wouldn't register at he back of your eye, so you wouldn't be able to see. And even if there was a way to work around that...You couldn't see your arms an legs, so it would be difficult to judge where you end, but everything else begins.

        So you would be a blind person, where everyone else can see..but can't see you. So they would walk into you, hit you with a car, or help you find your way.

        It would be a nightmare.

        I way way over think these things.
        I'm not sure I get with this one.

        Ya see - invisibility doesn't remove mass - it removes our ability to see it. So how do you remove the ability to be seen without removing mass? Bend light around it. Of course, light already bends around mass if it's dense enough.

        We have an extremely dense population so most people are just completely invisible - until you get to those so bizarrely dense that the light bends SO sharply that it almost hits them at a direct angle and actually illuminates them so they actually stand out in a crowd. Ever been to Walmart?
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          I'm not sure I get with this one.

          Ya see - invisibility doesn't remove mass - it removes our ability to see it. So how do you remove the ability to be seen without removing mass? Bend light around it. Of course, light already bends around mass if it's dense enough.

          We have an extremely dense population so most people are just completely invisible - until you get to those so bizarrely dense that the light bends SO sharply that it almost hits them at a direct angle and actually illuminates them so they actually stand out in a crowd. Ever been to Walmart?
          Dearest Darling Sal; We are talking about two different things. I wasn't talking about removing mass. If something is 100% transparent, then light wouldn't be gathered at the back of the eye, so we would be blind.

          But even if we were 100% transparent light would still be bent by our bodies, because we aren't flat. We would act as an asymmetrical lens.
          So, now that you caused me to think more about it. I'm adding to what I said before....even if you were 100% transparent, you wouldn't be invisible.

          You are talking (I think) about being invisible as a societal thing. I was talking about the physics involved. Wait a minute...I get it now, the last paragraph was a joke. Sorry, I was in the wrong mode. You had me.
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          • Profile picture of the author HeySal
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Dearest Darling Sal; We are talking about two different things. I wasn't talking about removing mass. If something is 100% transparent, then light wouldn't be gathered at the back of the eye, so we would be blind.

            But even if we were 100% transparent light would still be bent by our bodies, because we aren't flat. We would act as an asymmetrical lens.
            So, now that you caused me to think more about it. I'm adding to what I said before....even if you were 100% transparent, you wouldn't be invisible.

            You are talking (I think) about being invisible as a societal thing. I was talking about the physics involved. Wait a minute...I get it now, the last paragraph was a joke. Sorry, I was in the wrong mode. You had me.
            Damn, Claude - I told you to come prepared. Yep I was playing with it. Actually, I started out on physics myself before wandering off into play time - the invisibility stealth crap the military/scientists are working on actually works by redirection of light rays. Gottcha. Your turn.
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              If I had psychic powers I'd want to be able to use them only once because
              quite honestly, I don't want to know what the future holds.

              I'd use them one time to determine the next mega millions numbers so I can win
              a crap ton of money and relax.

              That's it. In my case, money solves all my problems and that's all I need.
              Everything else I have.

              And then I would relinquish those powers so that I was never tempted to use
              them again.
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

              Damn, Claude - I told you to come prepared. Yep I was playing with it. Actually, I started out on physics myself before wandering off into play time - the invisibility stealth crap the military/scientists are working on actually works by redirection of light rays. Gottcha. Your turn.
              I've seen the military stealth stuff. (Lots of Discovery Channel). Yeah, it's fascinating as an idea, but there are so many problems.

              Sorry, I actually don't have a brilliantly snarky thing to say. Next time
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              • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                I've seen the military stealth stuff. (Lots of Discovery Channel). Yeah, it's fascinating as an idea, but there are so many problems.

                Sorry, I actually don't have a brilliantly snarky thing to say. Next time
                Can't read minds? pffft - I knew you were going to say that.

                Well, I sure hope there are problems with the stelth stuff because I don't like the idea of someone standing in my room and not being able to see him. Serious.

                As far as pscyhic powers - the one that really gets to me that is credible enough that the military has used trained personnel is remote viewing. It's said to be not too hard to learn - but I find it freaky and am not so sure that it can be as easy as some say it is. But as far as validity - if the military (of more than one country) thinks it works, it probably does.
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                  Can't read minds? pffft - I knew you were going to say that.

                  Well, I sure hope there are problems with the stelth stuff because I don't like the idea of someone standing in my room and not being able to see him. Serious.

                  As far as pscyhic powers - the one that really gets to me that is credible enough that the military has used trained personnel is remote viewing. It's said to be not too hard to learn - but I find it freaky and am not so sure that it can be as easy as some say it is. But as far as validity - if the military (of more than one country) thinks it works, it probably does.
                  Sal; No. Remote viewing was investigated, and plenty of money was spent on it because the Russians (I think) had a program.

                  The US no longer spends time on this. The results were ...well....there were no results. Just because it's the military, doesn't mean they are not subject to the same superstitions and gimmickry that the rest of us fall for.

                  One thing that ESP researchers found, when testing "psychics" was that if they let the "psychic" set up the test....they could demonstrate abilities.
                  Why? Because the scientists just didn't know how the trick was done. They are like everyone else. They can be fooled. but if the scientists set up the test...there is never an indication of ability. And it helps if a trained magician is consulting. Because they can always spot the methodology.

                  I'm very sorry. We know a lot now about how the brain works. It simply doesn't send out waves of energy, no matter how hard we concentrate.

                  One of the most painful things a skeptic (Yup, I'm a skeptic, and a pretty good magician in my own right) can do is sit in an audience of nice, intelligent people, and watch someone on stage "prove" that they can talk to the dead, bend spoons, read minds, levitate...and they are wanting the audience to believe it's real. It isn't. And to a trained eye, the trick is nearly always obvious.

                  Here is another way to look at it.
                  No magician thinks they can perform real magic.
                  No mentalist thinks they can really read minds.
                  None of the guys that talk to the dead really believe that they can talk to the dead. You can't perform the illusion if you think it's real.

                  Some Tarot card readers think they are actually doing something.
                  Some people (no performers though) think they are really psychic.
                  Some people (again, no performers) think they can tell the future.
                  Most Astrology people believe it's real. (Not the person you are paying to tell your fortune)
                  And of course, all religious people believe what they preach.

                  But I don't think there is a faith healer that really believes that he's healing anyone. You can't do the technique if you believe it's real.

                  For example, I have studied levitation. In my teens I actually believed that there was a way to really levitate...for real.
                  It was a fun thought. I enjoyed reading the books on how to do it.
                  But every time I saw someone levitate on TV, or on stage, it was a trick.

                  And no, after decades of reading about levitation (and a little practice), I know that it's always a trick. Always. And again, to a trained eye, it's obvious how it is done.
                  I admit though, that it sure was a lot more fun when I believed.

                  Knowing how a trick is done is not nearly as much fun as simply being amazed.
                  I miss that.
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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    Sal; No. Remote viewing was investigated, and plenty of money was spent on it because the Russians (I think) had a program.

                    The US no longer spends time on this. The results were ...well....there were no results. Just because it's the military, doesn't mean they are not subject to the same superstitions and gimmickry that the rest of us fall for.

                    One thing that ESP researchers found, when testing "psychics" was that if they let the "psychic" set up the test....they could demonstrate abilities.
                    Why? Because the scientists just didn't know how the trick was done. They are like everyone else. They can be fooled. but if the scientists set up the test...there is never an indication of ability. And it helps if a trained magician is consulting. Because they can always spot the methodology.

                    I'm very sorry. We know a lot now about how the brain works. It simply doesn't send out waves of energy, no matter how hard we concentrate.

                    One of the most painful things a skeptic (Yup, I'm a skeptic, and a pretty good magician in my own right) can do is sit in an audience of nice, intelligent people, and watch someone on stage "prove" that they can talk to the dead, bend spoons, read minds, levitate...and they are wanting the audience to believe it's real. It isn't. And to a trained eye, the trick is nearly always obvious.

                    Here is another way to look at it.
                    No magician thinks they can perform real magic.
                    No mentalist thinks they can really read minds.
                    None of the guys that talk to the dead really believe that they can talk to the dead. You can't perform the illusion if you think it's real.

                    Some Tarot card readers think they are actually doing something.
                    Some people (no performers though) think they are really psychic.
                    Some people (again, no performers) think they can tell the future.
                    Most Astrology people believe it's real. (Not the person you are paying to tell your fortune)
                    And of course, all religious people believe what they preach.

                    But I don't think there is a faith healer that really believes that he's healing anyone. You can't do the technique if you believe it's real.

                    For example, I have studied levitation. In my teens I actually believed that there was a way to really levitate...for real.
                    It was a fun thought. I enjoyed reading the books on how to do it.
                    But every time I saw someone levitate on TV, or on stage, it was a trick.

                    And no, after decades of reading about levitation (and a little practice), I know that it's always a trick. Always. And again, to a trained eye, it's obvious how it is done.
                    I admit though, that it sure was a lot more fun when I believed.

                    Knowing how a trick is done is not nearly as much fun as simply being amazed.
                    I miss that.

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                    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                      “The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true.” ― Carl Sagan




                      Thank you Shane. I agree 100%.

                      Sagan was a brilliant scientist who didn't believe in gods, spirits, luck, fate, magic, psychic phenomenon, little green men...or anything else that we find fun to believe in.

                      A great spokesman for reason.
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  • I'd love to have the power to make anyone do as I say on command. Mind control.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
    Originally Posted by Newbieee View Post

    If you had psychic powers...

    Wad you guys think?
    I think you should buy the new seat.


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    << The US no longer spends time on this. The results were ...well....there were no results. Just because it's the military, doesn't mean they are not subject to the same superstitions and gimmickry that the rest of us fall for.

    One thing that ESP researchers found, when testing "psychics" was that if they let the "psychic" set up the test....they could demonstrate abilities.
    Why? Because the scientists just didn't know how the trick was done. They are like everyone else. They can be fooled. but if the scientists set up the test...there is never an indication of ability. And it helps if a trained magician is consulting. Because they can always spot the methodology.

    I'm very sorry. We know a lot now about how the brain works. It simply doesn't send out waves of energy, no matter how hard we concentrate.>>

    It sounds like you are simply assuming that because the military hasn't publicly admitted that remote viewing is possible that therefore it isn't. I really don't understand how anyone can discount the existence of psychic powers. The fact that a stage magician can mimic them doesn't mean the real thing doesn't exist.

    The brain may or may not send out waves of energy, but that isn't really the point. It really comes down to the principle of synchronicity, and the theory that everything is connected.
    For example, the more sophisticated view of astrology is not that planets cause events to happen, but that they reflect events and personality traits. The same is true for any type of divination.

    The fact that psychic predictions often don't come true isn't proof that these phenomena aren't real. Since everything is constantly changing, it's impossible to perfectly predict anything. Note that science can't do it either, whether you're talking about the weather or stock market prices. There are just too many changing variables for any system of prediction to be even close to perfect.

    However, the fact that psychic events are frequently happening is enough to support the theory of synchronicity. Another way to look at it is Rupert Sheldrakes theory of Morphogenic fields.

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    Having super powers would be fun at first. Then I'll end up getting bored with them because life would be so easy.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Claude - was going to quote you but ---------

    What you were referring to is the Stargate Program. Yes, it's no longer active (as named anyway) but psychics are still used. In fact Britain employed them as late as the Iraqi war.

    Your statement that the brain can't send out waves is extremely startling to me. I'm afraid I have a more quantum view of energy - you see, everything is energy. It is matter that is an illusion, not energy. EVERYTHING resonates. Everything. Even the minerals I dig out of the earth resonate. The brain continually receives and sends energy simply because everything we perceive as matter does. The computer/brain interactive programs that are now being written could not work if this weren't so. Biofeedback, a very well accepted procedure would not be possible. So the question is not whether the mind can send and receive energy -- it's what can and can not be done with that energy.

    Also - not all psychic "abilities" are the same as others. You seem to be meshing "abilities" together into one ball of wax - you speak of ESP (mindreading of a sorts), channeling (talking to ghosts), faith healing, levitation, etc as if they are all the same thing. They are not even close to being so.

    Psy Ops in the CIA are not dead, and the military (Britain's) used psychics as recently that we know of as the Iraqi war to help find Saddam. That should not be a surprise. After all some very large corporations use dowsers to find minerals and water -- today, not decades ago. And police still use psychics to solve tough cases.

    Of all the "psychic" phenomenon, dowsing is the easiest to explain - on one level. Everything resonates at a distinct frequency. Some people are more in tune to the change of resonance than others but it is said that anyone can learn to dowse. If I ever find myself in a location close enough to dowsing society members, I'll be learning the skill myself for my gem hunting. Water seems to be the easiest element to dowse, which makes sense since we are mostly composed of water ourselves. There are other levels of dowsing go further into being more of a purely psychic phenomenon and I can't comment on those levels because I just plain don't understand how they work so can't say I believe or disbelieve in them.

    Faith healing is another phenomenon that has many levels and some are far more esoteric than others. Reiki works on energy exchange. Some healers use minerals which resonate at a useful frequency to change the resonance of an afflicted area - that principle is very closely related to how Royal Raymond Rife's sonar machine broke up tumors and killed cancer cells and realigned the energies of other malignancies. (The book: The Cancer Cure That Worked! 50 Years of Suppression by Barry Lynes is one of the most revealing books to read to learn the channels that our Medical Industrial Complex suppresses information and treatments I've read. Everyone should read it).

    As far as levitation - scientists now know how to use electro magnetism to levitate objects -- but could WE ever do that? Dunno. IF we can, I don't believe the method has been discovered by anyone - I've never seen it happen outside of a magic show and we didn't accomplish it in 1969 when so many gathered at the pentagon and tried to levitate it (LMAO - not sure if you're old enough to remember that one).

    As far as things like talking to the deceased, I'm making no comments on. It's a whole different animal than the other stuff. It presupposes that energy can cross the divide. That could involve religion - it could involve physics (what the hell is the divide - is it a crossing to a different dimension, and can that divide be crossed, and what is it made of) I reserve my conclusions on that one until a time someone can come up with the science behind the phenomenon. Because.................

    In a universe that is constructed of nothing but energy -- the only truth is science. If there is science to support a phenomenon, there is no reason to suspect that it exists only as a three ring circus side show.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Guys; I want to apologize.

      I have no right to trash your beliefs. And I've overstepped the bounds, I think.

      What you believe is your right.

      It's been fun.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Claude, I have to agree with Sal on this one. In my own life, sometimes I just know things and will share them, then they happen. It isn't anything that I can turn on whenever I want. It just happens sometimes. If you're interested in an example, here is one I shared earlier here.

        As for magic, ha! I've tried it and failed miserably every time. I suck at magic! The two cannot be one and the same.

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          As far as levitation - scientists now know how to use electro magnetism to levitate objects -- but could WE ever do that? Dunno. IF we can, I don't believe the method has been discovered by anyone - I've never seen it happen outside of a magic show and we didn't accomplish it in 1969 when so many gathered at the pentagon and tried to levitate it (LMAO - not sure if you're old enough to remember that one).
          Yep, the "Car That Runs Forever" thread has a video, (last post) you need to go in about half and hour more or less, to find it.

          This shows someone who has developed Tesslers work and has made objects levitate! He has even made a cannon ball float!

          Not surprisingly the Gov, authorities, storm his lab every 5 years on average and confiscate his stuff.


          So levitating objects with a spinoff of magnetic fields is possible, but as for the mind being able to do it.

          The Egyptians and other cultures have used specific, sounds to make things lighter!

          Maybe something can be done with the mind, but specific frequencies may play a part!


          It could be that certain music or frequencies, may make things lighter in the surrounding area. Best theory is that particles have a foot in other dimensions, and some of those slow down the particles spin or create the illusion of mass?

          But as you can see, this is a pretty open subject, and a lot of testing needs to be done, preferably in a secret lab somewhere. so the sociopaths can't join the party!

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          • Profile picture of the author HeySal
            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

            Yep, the "Car That Runs Forever" thread has a video, (last post) you need to go in about half and hour more or less, to find it.

            This shows someone who has developed Tesslers work and has made objects levitate! He has even made a cannon ball float!

            Not surprisingly the Gov, authorities, storm his lab every 5 years on average and confiscate his stuff.


            So levitating objects with a spinoff of magnetic fields is possible, but as for the mind being able to do it.

            The Egyptians and other cultures have used specific, sounds to make things lighter!

            Maybe something can be done with the mind, but specific frequencies may play a part!


            It could be that certain music or frequencies, may make things lighter in the surrounding area. Best theory is that particles have a foot in other dimensions, and some of those slow down the particles spin or create the illusion of mass?

            But as you can see, this is a pretty open subject, and a lot of testing needs to be done, preferably in a secret lab somewhere. so the sociopaths can't join the party!

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            Actually - they (I believe it is NASA affiliated scientists but could be wrong) are beyond electromagnetism for anti-gravity devices and are already into ship propulsion via electro-magnetism. I think the field is beyond suppression these days - but not sure if they have it down pat enough to do anything with it really. I mean - what would you do with something once suspended? It's not like someone's going to use that kind of science for storage space, LOL. Once they get propulsion sussed out well enough, we might see some real application for it.
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Actually - they (I believe it is NASA affiliated scientists but could be wrong) are beyond electromagnetism for anti-gravity devices and are already into ship propulsion via electro-magnetism. I think the field is beyond suppression these days - but not sure if they have it down pat enough to do anything with it really. I mean - what would you do with something once suspended? It's not like someone's going to use that kind of science for storage space, LOL. Once they get propulsion sussed out well enough, we might see some real application for it.
              Yeah, l know that making your Yoghurt stick to the ceiling is a good party trick, but l suspect that if this guy understands what is going on, he could put this device into a saucer shape, or metal box, and make it float.

              Not sure about the NASA association, but with the authorities crashing his party, he probably isn't now!

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              • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                Yeah, l know that making your Yoghurt stick to the ceiling is a good party trick, but l suspect that if this guy understands what is going on, he could put this device into a saucer shape, or metal box, and make it float.

                Not sure about the NASA association, but with the authorities crashing his party, he probably isn't now!

                Shane
                So maybe you are talking about something like THIS?

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                  Hmmm, looks like fans run this, pretty cool, where did you dig this one up???? :rolleyes:

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                  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post



                    Hmmm, looks like fans run this, pretty cool, where did you dig this one up???? :rolleyes:

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                    Military desert vehicles. Go figure.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kurt
              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

              Actually - they (I believe it is NASA affiliated scientists but could be wrong) are beyond electromagnetism for anti-gravity devices and are already into ship propulsion via electro-magnetism. I think the field is beyond suppression these days - but not sure if they have it down pat enough to do anything with it really. I mean - what would you do with something once suspended? It's not like someone's going to use that kind of science for storage space, LOL. Once they get propulsion sussed out well enough, we might see some real application for it.
              It could be used to reduced friction for turbines, such as those used in wind-powered generators to increase output and reduce wear, as well as transportation to increase energy efficiency in any number of vehicle types.

              It could potentially also be used for situations like burn victims, where resting on their burns causes intense pain.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Guys; I want to apologize.

        I have no right to trash your beliefs. And I've overstepped the bounds, I think.

        What you believe is your right.

        It's been fun.
        Stating that you believe otherwise isn't "trashing" someone's beliefs, guy. That is why it's called "discussion" or "debate" if we don't agree. What I said may or may not have changed your mind an iota on any of the subject, but I did try to show, without writing a dissertation, a scientific foundation for why I think what I do. If you see my point on any of it, terrific - if you don't - well, that's your right to disagree. There is no offense taken here - and, I presume, none given.

        If we can't disagree - we might as well just all STFU about EVERYTHING right now, right.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          Stating that you believe otherwise isn't "trashing" someone's beliefs, guy. That is why it's called "discussion" or "debate" if we don't agree. What I said may or may not have changed your mind an iota on any of the subject, but I did try to show, without writing a dissertation, a scientific foundation for why I think what I do. If you see my point on any of it, terrific - if you don't - well, that's your right to disagree. There is no offense taken here - and, I presume, none given.

          If we can't disagree - we might as well just all STFU about EVERYTHING right now, right.
          Sal; It wasn't directed at you. After I re-read my posts, it dawned on me that I was no longer discussing, I was showing zero respect for people's beliefs. It may read differently, but that's what I was doing. And nobody has the right to do that.

          It's a habit I have, that I constantly work on. Anyway, I enjoy the give and take.
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Sal; It wasn't directed at you. After I re-read my posts, it dawned on me that I was no longer discussing, I was showing zero respect for people's beliefs. It may read differently, but that's what I was doing. And nobody has the right to do that.

            It's a habit I have, that I constantly work on. Anyway, I enjoy the give and take.
            Claude, Sal spoke on behalf of all of us, we all feel the same way down here in the basement. Well, most of us, haha!

            I think it is great that you recognize something within yourself that you want to work on and actually strive to do so. However, I think you are the only one who took it that way.

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          • Profile picture of the author HeySal
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Sal; It wasn't directed at you. After I re-read my posts, it dawned on me that I was no longer discussing, I was showing zero respect for people's beliefs. It may read differently, but that's what I was doing. And nobody has the right to do that.

            It's a habit I have, that I constantly work on. Anyway, I enjoy the give and take.
            I'm kinda chill on this type of thing because the science isn't real strong so there's room to believe what you want to. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. We are not, however, entitled to our own facts, so once I feel something has adequate evidence, I can be an outright bitch about it.

            The only matter known in some pychic areas, there have been a lot of people with experiences of some sorts. While that isn't solid evidence, there are some things there are solid evidence for. I consider that just the fact that very lucrative utility companies use dowsers a pretty solid sign that they work - and the science behind why it works seems solid to me. Um........talking to ghosts, not so much.

            I do believe our minds are much more powerful than we realize and that many of our abilities have merely been suppressed. The idea that 9/10ths of our brains are just there with no purpose doesn't sit right with me. I've done study and am actually active in a group trying to retrieve these senses that we've lost - and it would be another sense, since energy transmission would be involved.

            Whatever happens and whatever we find out..............I highly doubt I'll learn to make myself invisible. LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Douglas
    My fantasy superpower is being able to teleport myself and objects I choose. That would make my life much simpler, like that "jumper" guy. But since I would be the first of my kind, there would be nobody hunting me or catching me.

    I could be in Italy one moment and France the next. I imagine myself being able to sign a contract with airlines that I would teleport their VVIP passengers in an instant or with courier companies and be able to teleport a ship full of cargo in an instant. I would be the reason that FLYING CARS become obsolete even before they exist! Hell, I could live in one of the unused rooms in the Buckingham Palace without them even noticing and even if they do notice, I just teleport out of that room to a first class suite somewhere.

    And even better I won't have to commute to work. AT ALL. (Who would have thought that this would be the clincher? Huh.)

    And then I get to a (slightly) more realistic frame of mind. Since I would be crossing a lot of borders what sort of immigration laws would apply? The military would treat me as a cargo plane. And what about the terrorists, the drug dealers and the illegal arms dealers?

    Bleh. I would rather commute to work.
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  • Profile picture of the author missmystery
    All humans have the ability to tap into this sort of thing. Personally, I would simply love to be able to teleport.

    I don't know if I would want to read people's thoughts or have an influx of information to my brain. I just want to be happy
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      I'm kinda chill on this type of thing because the science isn't real strong so there's room to believe what you want to. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. We are not, however, entitled to our own facts, so once I feel something has adequate evidence, I can be an outright bitch about it.

      The only matter known in some pychic areas, there have been a lot of people with experiences of some sorts. While that isn't solid evidence, there are some things there are solid evidence for. I consider that just the fact that very lucrative utility companies use dowsers a pretty solid sign that they work - and the science behind why it works seems solid to me. Um........talking to ghosts, not so much.

      I do believe our minds are much more powerful than we realize and that many of our abilities have merely been suppressed. The idea that 9/10ths of our brains are just there with no purpose doesn't sit right with me. I've done study and am actually active in a group trying to retrieve these senses that we've lost - and it would be another sense, since energy transmission would be involved.

      Whatever happens and whatever we find out..............I highly doubt I'll learn to make myself invisible. LOL.
      LOL, yep, you wouldn't want to read the first post l did, (not pretty) then l thought that a well picked quote might be more constructive? Initially it backfired, but is probably doing some good now?

      It does show that some skeptics, can be convinced to a degree, or at least stay open to the possibility, but just like you, when l have direct experience of something that is out there, and someone with no ex, tries to say you are mistaken or worse delusional, then it can get ugly!

      Hmmm, the mods may have to ban New Age as well? Hope not, we need some room to move!!! :rolleyes:



      Interesting thing you mentioned about the group, me too, if l mentioned a typical group, night, some of the skeptics on the WF, will be recommending shrinks!

      Or mental asylums?

      Shane


      Hmmmmm!:rolleyes:

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