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Is this the "Monsanto Protection Act 2.0"?

by Big Rob
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Holy Crapola....
The poisoning of Americans continues

Genetically Modified Democracy: Monsanto and Congress Move to Stomp on States' Rights

I am just speechless...

And, They have a huge friggin bankroll

Lobbying Spending Database - Monsanto Co, 2013 | OpenSecrets
  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    They already have one of their people in as head of the FDA thanks to Obama.

    This is not a political statement,it is a verifiable fact.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      They already have one of their people in as head of the FDA thanks to Obama.

      This is not a political statement,it is a verifiable fact.
      I wish it ended there
      The head of the U.S.D.A. when a gov. was named bio-tech governor of the year by the bio-tech industry and when campaigning for his second term flew around the state in a Monsanto corporate jet.
      We have a Supreme court justice who as a lawyer represented Monsanto. I think actually there my be two supreme court justices with ties to Monsanto, but I'd have to look that up.
      They also have people high up in the E.P.A.

      Rob what you posted has to do with all the states that have labeling laws in the works. Last year Monsanto threatened to sue Vermont if the governor signed the labeling law they passed. This year Vermont is trying again as is N.Y., Conn. and a few other states. If the feds. passed that bill Monsanto would of been effectively stopped from suing. On the other hand states can still pass labeling laws, they will just be tied up in lawsuits and if they go to the Supreme Court, well that is already stacked against us
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Thom, I can't help but wonder on what grounds do they sue?

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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          Thom, I can't help but wonder on what grounds do they sue?

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          I'm not 100% sure Terra. But my guess would be because they claim gmo's are no different from non gmos.
          I know they always say that the FDA says they are "substantially equivalent" and that studies show they are safe. Also that if they are labeled people will think they are dangerous and not buy them.
          Another claim they make is it would cost companies to much to put a label on their products so food costs would go through the roof.
          They haven't had to sue yet. Just the threat was enough to stop Vermont last year.
          It seems Monsanto has more money then the state and the state couldn't afford the lawsuit.
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

            I'm not 100% sure Terra. But my guess would be because they claim gmo's are no different from non gmos.
            I know they always say that the FDA says they are "substantially equivalent" and that studies show they are safe. Also that if they are labeled people will think they are dangerous and not buy them.
            Another claim they make is it would cost companies to much to put a label on their products so food costs would go through the roof.
            They haven't had to sue yet. Just the threat was enough to stop Vermont last year.
            It seems Monsanto has more money then the state and the state couldn't afford the lawsuit.
            Thanks Thom and you too, Steve.

            If I haven't said it before, let it be known world wide that I think Monsanto SUCKS!!

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            • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
              I made fresh corn on the cob today. It was good, sweet corn, but I didn't really enjoy it. There wasn't enough time at the store to take off the husk, and they were just thrown into a plastic bag. So far, so good - right?

              Well, maybe not. When I went to clean the corn and take the leaves off I noticed there wasn't a bug on anything, and there were always bugs before. So I guess that's what the store was selling, the gmo crap without any indication what it was.

              Where are my bugs?
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    You know, I watched terminator 2 last night. One thing I ALWAYS think about in such things is how they have people that are holding guns on people. Basically it is like "DO what I want, or I may kill you! If you do what I want, I will just kill everyone INCLUDING you, AND ME!".

    I mean monsanto wants to destroy all of the future so they can maybe make some money NOW. And politicians help them so they can make some money now.

    Terra,

    They have made a LOT of changes, etc.... to patents, and they allow monsanto to do this garbage. But WHY!?!?!?!??

    Did monsanto first have the idea? NOPE! It was first thought of THOUSANDS of years ago! HECK, an early method is mentioned in the BIBLE!!!!!!!

    Did monsanto first make changes? NOPE! It was first done THOUSANDS of years ago. Broccoli, corn, and I believe Lemons are some examples!

    Did monsanto create the methods they used? NOPE!

    Did farmers copy monsantos work? NOPE!

    Were the plants the farmers had identical to monsantos, or created the same way? NOPE!!!!! Plants inherit traits from BOTH parents.

    So *****WHY***** were they sued?

    OH well, look at that company that sued RIMS! They took an idea mentioned for over 100 years, and technology that had been mentioned for DECADES, and PATENTED it! It was NOT novel or hard to figure out, and they never created it, but they sued RIMS!!!!!

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    We might have to end that company ourselves literally tear factories to the ground - refuse to buy processed food until it's labeled. How long can the companies processing food survive if nobody will buy their food until labeling is done? Monsanto and their ilk need to be shut down and if the gov won't help us do that, we can still do it ourselves. Not a problem. I don't buy much that is processed......and what I do now has to be labeled no GMOs, no this no that, or it can sit on the shelf and rot as far as I'm concerned. If everyone plays that same game..........there won't be anyone left for Monsanto to hide behind.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Reminds me of people that used to suggest boycotting gasoline. They boycott gasoline for one day, then buy twice the gas the next day to continue on with their everyday way of life.

    The problem is people won't give up food they find in grocery stores, doesn't matter what's in the food. Starving isn't an option & being a farmer isn't glamorous.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Reminds me of people that used to suggest boycotting gasoline. They boycott gasoline for one day, then buy twice the gas the next day to continue on with their everyday way of life.

      The problem is people won't give up food they find in grocery stores, doesn't matter what's in the food. Starving isn't an option & being a farmer isn't glamorous.
      This is a tad different the a gas boycott, to begin with there are other options then gmo's to buy. I haven't bought any food that contains gmo's in a couple of years. I look for the non gmo verified label and if that isn't there then I look for certified organic. If the item doesn't have either I don't buy it. I still shop at my local supermarket so that hasn't changed. It does cost a little more, but I have far less health issues then I've ever had before in my life. I also have a small garden.
      You don't have to starve or be a farmer to avoid eating foods that contain gmo's. Just an intelligent shopper.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        This is a tad different the a gas boycott, to begin with there are other options then gmo's to buy. I haven't bought any food that contains gmo's in a couple of years. I look for the non gmo verified label and if that isn't there then I look for certified organic. If the item doesn't have either I don't buy it. I still shop at my local supermarket so that hasn't changed. It does cost a little more, but I have far less health issues then I've ever had before in my life. I also have a small garden.
        You don't have to starve or be a farmer to avoid eating foods that contain gmo's. Just an intelligent shopper.
        The average person/shopper isn't going to know to look for any mention of GMOs until the media makes the subject go mainstream. Just like anything else, the masses don't react unless the media makes it sound like a problem.

        Unless the Gov. forces food producers to add a big red label saying do not consume, people will keep buying & keep eating GMOs.

        Besides, I'm sure just about everything in restaurants includes things people wouldn't want to eat If they knew what was in the food.

        The majority of the people in the US & probably most other countries will never have a garden, it's just not going to happen when there's a grocery store a few miles away from their homes.

        My point is convenience trumps everything else when it comes to things like food. This is a need it now world, not a wait 3 months for vegetables to grow in a personal garden. None of us have to agree it makes sense, but that's the world we live in.
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          The average person/shopper isn't going to know to look for any mention of GMOs until the media makes the subject go mainstream. Just like anything else, the masses don't react unless the media makes it sound like a problem.

          Unless the Gov. forces food producers to add a big red label saying do not consume, people will keep buying & keep eating GMOs.

          Besides, I'm sure just about everything in restaurants includes things people wouldn't want to eat If they knew what was in the food.

          The majority of the people in the US & probably most other countries will never have a garden, it's just not going to happen when there's a grocery store a few miles away from their homes.

          My point is convenience trumps everything else when it comes to things like food. This is a need it now world, not a wait 3 months for vegetables to grow in a personal garden. None of us have to agree it makes sense, but that's the world we live in.
          Here's the thing Yukon. I don't care what others do. Other people are not my responsibility. What I do care about is the damage growing gmo's does to our environment and what eating them can do to myself and my family.
          I will and do educate anyone who is interested in learning about gmo's and the dangers of eating them and growing them.
          As more people are educated, less people eat them, and more people demand labeling.
          If you choose to eat them and don't want to be bothered learning about how to avoid them, that's on you not me. To be honest I don't care what you put in your body, you'll pay that price not me.
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

            Here's the thing Yukon. I don't care what others do. Other people are not my responsibility. What I do care about is the damage growing gmo's does to our environment and what eating them can do to myself and my family.
            I will and do educate anyone who is interested in learning about gmo's and the dangers of eating them and growing them.
            As more people are educated, less people eat them, and more people demand labeling.
            If you choose to eat them and don't want to be bothered learning about how to avoid them, that's on you not me. To be honest I don't care what you put in your body, you'll pay that price not me.
            I think you might have missed my point, the majority of the world will never see GMOs as a problem until the media tells them to be concerned.

            I guess you do care what other people eat otherwise you wouldn't be worried about educating anyone else on the subject. Just saying.

            BTW, don't assume your GMO free If you drink or cook with tap water or well water, that run-off has to go somewhere downstream. Doubtful every single organic farm is upstream of all GMO fields.
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            • Profile picture of the author ThomM
              Originally Posted by yukon View Post

              I think you might have missed my point, the majority of the world will never see GMOs as a problem until the media tells them to be concerned.

              I guess you do care what other people eat otherwise you wouldn't be worried about educating anyone else on the subject. Just saying.

              BTW, don't assume your GMO free If you drink or cook with tap water or well water, that run-off has to go somewhere downstream. Doubtful every single organic farm is upstream of all GMO fields.
              The majority of the world already either labels them or has out right banned them. It's in the U.S. that the media is the problem.
              I don't worry about educating anyone, where you got that idea from is beyond me. I educate those who want to learn and ask me.
              Also I don't drink or cook with tap water or well water. I get my water from a spring that is tested monthly for contaminates including pesticide and herbicide contaminates.
              I don't assume anything when it comes to what I put in my body.

              Like I said eat what you want. If you want to use the excuse that the media hasn't told you what you're eating is harmful, that's on you.
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    Someone posted a video of the march here in Richmond. A cop drove over some kids bicycle and pushed a demonstrator.
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      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      Someone posted a video of the march here in Richmond. A cop drove over some kids bicycle and pushed a demonstrator.
      Yep....and yet STILL there are people who insist that tyrannical gubmint is an absolute impossibility.

      When the Gov. does the bidding of corporations and not the people, what other definition can you give it?
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