NASA Document Calls For Execution Of The Population!

TLTheLiberator

11 years ago

The headline certainly got my attention - LOL!

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Claude Whitacre 11 years ago

I can't believe they kept a straight face while filming this.

The amazing part is that a few people will take this at face value.....

And I know at least ONE person here that will. :rolleyes:
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tagiscom 11 years ago

Jee, l was hoping for a laugh, and ended up getting depressed. :confused:

Yeah, no surprise there, in AU, some of our leaders are getting pretty arrogant, or almost laughing at us.

No, doubt following the US, BS.

I knew things were bad, but not that bad.

Interesting about the brain thing, seems like Robocop isn't that far fetched.

Not surprised about poisoning the water, we are getting Fluoride put into country water supplies now, eventhough, Sweden didn't do it, and shows no increase in tooth decay.

Just more BS to poison the masses and keep them under their control.

The Monsato thing is a concern, and its amazing that eventhough most don't want it and prefer organic, they still sneak the S*** into food whenever they can?

And the media, AU,s media is definitely house trained. Curiousity has uncovered so much Earth shaking stuff, but we hear nothing!

They won't even mention the other country's rover tracks!!!

They are also trying to control Google or removing kw's from con-traversal videos, so you have an uphill battle finding it again, but there are ways around this crap!

Outwitting a rich socialpath is pretty easy, but forums have ears, so l will end this here!

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seasoned

11 years ago

Some is obvious BS, but the idea about the laws, tracking, etc... is obviously happening. With regard to the microdust, *****BULL*****! But there ARE elements and microbes that can do the same thing. They(the "WHO") created bird flu! I should have recorded all those interviews on NPR where they said they could NOT get it to affect humans, but were working on making a strain that COULD. That was YEARS before the scares!

As for the talk about humans being worthless, I guess they are talking about OTHER humans for THEM. This would be like "metropolis". "metropolis" is an OLD silent movie that, in part, talks about the non political classes working VERY hard to provide everything for others. IRONICALLY, a robot is created that teaches the value of something that was prevalent THEN, but now has been all but eradicated.

It would be dumb to believe that they aren't planning something similar to this, as they have set on a parallel path, and there is agenda 21.

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LarryC

11 years ago

Someone posted this to Facebook yesterday, but the title there read "Jupiter sized object heading towards earth." If that's true, there's not much we can do about it anyway. Not sure if this is a hoax or a satire but I don't feel like spending 30 minutes to find out.

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Claude Whitacre 11 years ago

I knew it! I KNEW some people would take this seriously!

This nonsense draws some like a moth to a flame.

Human nature is fun to watch.
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- MissTerraK 11 years ago
  
  Props to the actor and actress! Such dour straight faces while discussing idiocy with just enough undercurrent of the "real" to make some believe. That's talent.
  
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seasoned

11 years ago

So you haven't noticed the poisons? You haven't noticed agenda 21? You haven't noticed the increased surveillance of EVERYONE? Have you been living under a rock?

Do I take the author of that report seriously? NOPE! The woman? NOPE! do I think the man is sincere? Probably NOT. But do I think things like this are happening, etc? OF COURSE! Because they ARE! SOME got on mainstream news! SOME were on NPR, though it is funny how FEW others seem to remember! etc....

For all I know, there WAS a serious report that was summarized and regurgitated by one that didn't have any idea about it. I have seen how a report that one would view as factual could be mangled through "the telephone game" to become unbelievable.

As for the cyborg and robot deal? They DID say that was out over a decade. Many overhype that stuff, etc... STILL, they ARE working on it. they HAVE had minor success in BOTH areas. They have supposedly created video implants. I saw a documentary with one person describing HIS experiences. They HAVE created audio implants. They HAVE created neural pacemakers. They have EVEN created sensors good enough to effect arm control, and some leg control. Will they make a cyborg like "the six million dollar man"? NO WAY! Will they make a cyborg that could have strong abilities, and extra abilities? MAYBE.

For robots, they have made BIG strides! Will they be common place in 10 years? I DOUBT IT! Will they be like the terminator? NO WAY! Will they be like the full robot in robocop? MAYBE. I mean the V2 version, NOT the character called "robocop".

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MissTerraK

11 years ago

Are you talking to me Steve?

If so, please note this portion of my post...with just enough undercurrent of the "real"...

I can't disagree with you on some things when we agree on some things. :p

Terra

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Are you talking to me Steve?

If so, please note this portion of my post...with just enough undercurrent of the "real"...

I can't disagree with you on some things when we agree on some things. :p

Terra

NO, I was talking to all that figured this was a 100% joke.

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Claude Whitacre 11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

NO, I was talking to all that figured this was a 100% joke.

Steve

That's Me! (Raising hand emphatically) Me! Me! Me!
Yup, me.
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HeySal

11 years ago

Where is a lot of this new? I've heard this all over the place for decades.

This isn't much different than politicians who write gigantic bills and stick unrelated items in the middle of them to get outrageous crap passed that won't pass on its own.

She's mixing some truths that we've already become aware of with a lot of stuff that is still at the conspiracy theory level of thought mixed with some fantasy. All or nothing. It's a technique that works for both sides.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Where is a lot of this new? I've heard this all over the place for decades.

This isn't much different than politicians who write gigantic bills and stick unrelated items in the middle of them to get outrageous crap passed that won't pass on its own.

She's mixing some truths that we've already become aware of with a lot of stuff that is still at the conspiracy theory level of thought mixed with some fantasy. All or nothing. It's a technique that works for both sides.

It may have been around for over a hundred years, but it is only NOW so easy and being adopted, at least in part.

Steve

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yukon

Banned 11 years ago

Is that the same lady on the Cash for Clunkers TV commercial?

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seasoned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Is that the same lady on the Cash for Clunkers TV commercial?

WHO KNOWS. It might make sense. RADIATION FREQUENCY? NANOMACHINE MICRODUST? Two things that MIGHT be a misunderstanding, and biological warfare. So the plausible and even old news may sound like some weird scifi that likely won't happen for DECADES or that is just 100% BUNK! Such things COULD be released as a disinformation campaign. MANY such things have enough truth to seem valid, and have some red herrings added.

BTW over 30 years ago a person I knew, that claimed to personally know some astronauts, and worked on books about UFOs, etc... etc..., claimed that russia was beaming a radiowave over here to upset Americans thought and sleep patterns. Considering the ranges of sleep patterns, etc... I find that doubtful. I also caught him in a lot of lies. Interestingly, this video spoke of the same concept. That MIGHT be what they meant by "RADIATION FREQUENCY". But it is EMR, and NOT ionizing radiation.

BTW I wrote of that guy before. Last I knew, he was well into his 60s, and lived in a trailer in his mothers back yard.

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- MissTerraK 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by seasoned
  
  BTW I wrote of that guy before. Last I knew, he was well into his 60s, and lived in a trailer in his mothers back yard.
  
  Steve
  
  LOL! Okay, call me callous if you want to, but that made me laugh.
  
  So, I take it she didn't have a basement then? :p
  
  Okay, I'll stop now.
  
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  seasoned 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MissTerraK
  
  LOL! Okay, call me callous if you want to, but that made me laugh.
  
  So, I take it she didn't have a basement then? :p
  
  Okay, I'll stop now.
  
  Terra
  
  Yeah, it's TRUE, but I figured people would get a kick out of it. This WAS in california, and FEW houses, if any, there have basements, at least from what I have seen.
  
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DavidAllenNeron

11 years ago

If you want to watch an excellent documentary on how they developed our modern industrial age as well as how they designed the educational system.

You might want to check out "Human Resources"
HUMAN RESOURCES Social Engineering In The 20th Century HQ FULL - YouTube

Very well documented and quite eye opening.

Let me know what you think.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by DavidAllenNeron

If you want to watch an excellent documentary on how they developed our modern industrial age as well as how they designed the educational system.

You might want to check out "Human Resources"
HUMAN RESOURCES Social Engineering In The 20th Century HQ FULL - YouTube

Very well documented and quite eye opening.

Let me know what you think.

Well, OF COURSE babies aren't afraid of the dark. DUH! They have spent SO much of their life sleeping, etc... Fear of the dark is really NOT fear of the dark, but fear of what is perceived to be unknown. Aliens? Wild animals? Thieves? etc....

As for animals? Interestingly, no animal seems to really be born afraid of others. AGAIN, conditioned. Look at how a puppy reacts to the unknown, or a really young kid.

So WHY did anyone bother to taint a persons behavior like that? As for the theory about participatory economics? ********STUPID********! It WON'T WORK! WHY do I say that? Because it HASN'T worked! Unless people have pride in their work, a good work ethic, are altruistic, or have a 1-2 degree connection to the end result, they typically WON'T do it right.

I should add a disclaimer. I struggled through the first part, and jumped to where a post said it would be hypocritical. Due to the length and the ABSURD audio, I couldn't handle the whole thing. I have a condition that makes me hypersensitive to certain extremes of volume and pitches, and the pounding on the piano keys, etc... hurts my ears.

Steve

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tagiscom 11 years ago

Just for the record l don't believe everything she says, and had to jump the video a few times to get past the propaganda segments, but some has good supportive evidence.

I would rather believe in something, with some evidence than what the masses tell me!

True it could be quite some time before the Robocop idea works, but as others have said the V2, one is more plausible, although l would think that most would kill themselves off, than spend the rest of eternity like that?

Also seems that the Monsato world domination idea, is pushing it as well, and making as much as possible, is more likely, (more money).

The powder idea, is pretty stupid overall, even a socialpath won't throw that around and risk walking out of his beach side mansion, and get scared if he takes a deep breath.

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Kay King

11 years ago

So you haven't noticed the poisons? You haven't noticed agenda 21? You haven't noticed the increased surveillance of EVERYONE? Have you been living under a rock?

Yes, I'm living under a rock.

Every time I stick my head out I run into people spouting conspiracies and agenda 21 and dire consequences for one thing and another and getting hyperactive over all sorts of things - and I decide I like it better under my rock.

Under my rock, it's calm and cool....and people don't throw caps and asterisks at me.

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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Yes, I'm living under a rock.

Every time I stick my head out I run into people spouting conspiracies and agenda 21 and dire consequences for one thing and another and getting hyperactive over all sorts of things - and I decide I like it better under my rock.

Under my rock, it's calm and cool....and people don't throw caps and asterisks at me.

That was brilliant.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Yes, I'm living under a rock.

Every time I stick my head out I run into people spouting conspiracies and agenda 21 and dire consequences for one thing and another and getting hyperactive over all sorts of things - and I decide I like it better under my rock.

Under my rock, it's calm and cool....and people don't throw caps and asterisks at me.

GEE, I almost WISH I could do that! I watched "RED" yesterday, and there was this guy considered crazy. He lived underground, and I thought about how I once thought about doing that. IMAGINE a thief robbing the whole neighborhood and skipping your place because they think it is simply a field. About as close to living under a rock as a homan would ever truly get.

BTW, for the record, HE WAS RIGHT! AND, today, we are much the same. It is on ALL news at this point. Snowden is in trouble for merely confirming ONE facet of it.

And I am listening to one of ickes videos right now. He is spouting ideas laughed at for thousands of years. The BIBLE talks about some of them. WELL, NOW, they are FACT! All we need is some "mark", and one huge facet snaps in PERFECTLY! They ARE suggesting methods that would be considered a mark. From fingerprint scans to literal bar code tattoo! The reason, supposedly? To prevent ID theft.

And NOW, he is saying that there should be a contract. There IS a contract, in the US at least! It is called the OATH! If I did what they did(take an oath and violate it), I would be thrown in jail for perjury! Look at the bottom of a government form, or watch a court case sometime! They have an oath, and threaten non compliance with PERJURY which means JAIL! Of course THEY consider an oath to be simply words. They ALSO created a law saying it is LEGAL for them to LIE!

I will tell you one thing though. Icke is WRONG! He apparently thinks the occupy people are the good guys working for the people, and against government. The interesting thing though is that they were working for the GOVERNMENT. Oh, I could say so much more. They were even herded into some areas by people with close ties to the government.

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TLTheLiberator

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

GEE, I almost WISH I could do that! I watched "RED" yesterday, and there was this guy considered crazy. He lived underground, and I thought about how I once thought about doing that. IMAGINE a thief robbing the whole neighborhood and skipping your place because they think it is simply a field. About as close to living under a rock as a homan would ever truly get.

BTW, for the record, HE WAS RIGHT! AND, today, we are much the same. It is on ALL news at this point. Snowden is in trouble for merely confirming ONE facet of it.

And I am listening to one of ickes videos right now. He is spouting ideas laughed at for thousands of years. The BIBLE talks about some of them. WELL, NOW, they are FACT! All we need is some "mark", and one huge facet snaps in PERFECTLY! They ARE suggesting methods that would be considered a mark. From fingerprint scans to literal bar code tattoo! The reason, supposedly? To prevent ID theft.

And NOW, he is saying that there should be a contract. There IS a contract, in the US at least! It is called the OATH! If I did what they did(take an oath and violate it), I would be thrown in jail for perjury! Look at the bottom of a government form, or watch a court case sometime! They have an oath, and threaten non compliance with PERJURY which means JAIL! Of course THEY consider an oath to be simply words. They ALSO created a law saying it is LEGAL for them to LIE!

I will tell you one thing though. Icke is WRONG!

He apparently thinks the occupy people are the good guys working for the people, and against government.

The interesting thing though is that they were working for the GOVERNMENT. Oh, I could say so much more.

They were even herded into some areas by people with close ties to the government.

Steve

I have no doubt that Gov forces tried to and probably did infiltrate the movement but you seem to suggest that occupy was actually a gov plot etc.

Are you suggesting that?

And if so...

Do you have any links to share to that effect??

TL

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11 years ago

TL,

I won't continue on that line here,TIWLT.

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TLTheLiberator

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

TL,

I won't continue on that line here,TIWLT.

Steve

Please PM me with your info.

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tagiscom

11 years ago

Yes, I'm living under a rock.

Every time I stick my head out I run into people spouting conspiracies and agenda 21 and dire consequences for one thing and another and getting hyperactive over all sorts of things - and I decide I like it better under my rock.

Under my rock, it's calm and cool....and people don't throw caps and asterisks at me.

A Martian rock, perhaps? :rolleyes:

A conspiracy theory is just something that is being withheld from the general public, for political gain or control or maybe even for our own good.

It still amazes me that some find the concept unlikely, considering the 20th century, 2 world wars, and the endless lies and secrets, derived from that.

The Trojan horse, Chernobyl, (leading to the disaster) the recent Chinese radiation issue, (trying to downplay it as much as possible) the Nazis using Fluoride in drinking water, and today it is commonplace, (clearly they didn't use it to keep the Jewish children's teeth healthy, in the camps during world war 2!!!) and the list goes on.

But l suppose that when a conspiracy theory is attached to a scary or unsettling subject, (UFO,s for example) than the caps and asterisk's start to fly.

Of course negative or scary propaganda films, on this or related subjects only help to get the emu's to bury their heads in the sand a little deeper, and get the people sitting on the fence to bury their heads as well.

The obviously question is if this is an open subject, then why do the vast majority of videos on or off line, seem to be as scary as possible, when they come from gov, sources. But is usually the opposite when similar videos are seen from indipendant scientific research?

I suppose the 1950's "you are nuts, if you believe in UFO's" is becoming ineffective, so fear is a more practical means of control?

And if no conspiracy theory's exist, then a good answer should be available as to why we have Fluoride in drinking water, after the concentration camp example?

I would rather know the truth and be concerned or even a little scared, than believe in a lie, and be happy.

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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

TL,

I won't continue on that line here,TIWLT.

Steve

Please...please tell me what TIWLT stands for.

Claudius

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Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Please...please tell me what TIWLT stands for.

Claudius

It means:

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Kay King

11 years ago

I don't think Occupy was a plot - but it definitely was a tool and more than one group used it to their advantage.

It was a good example of an attempt at a big bang that ended in a fizzle. It you want to have a "movement" you need to have a defined cause - they didn't.

Steve - There's a house for sale where a large part of the house is an old missile silo. It's surrounded by a huge piece of land and there's a small "standard" house built on top of the silo entrance.

I want to live there. It's like the ultimate "under the rock" lifestyle.

http://dornob.com/home-base-for-sale...#axzz2XEsVFD00

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I don't think Occupy was a plot - but it definitely was a tool and more than one group used it to their advantage.

It was a good example of an attempt at a big bang that ended in a fizzle. It you want to have a "movement" you need to have a defined cause - they didn't.

Steve - There's a house for sale where a large part of the house is an old missile silo. It's surrounded by a huge piece of land and there's a small "standard" house built on top of the silo entrance.

I want to live there. It's like the ultimate "under the rock" lifestyle.

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I don't know how the very basic movement started, but it quickly escalated all over the planet with the FANTASTIC majority, WELL OVER 99%, not knowing ANYTHING about why they were there. It was used for a lot of reasons, etc... And they WERE herded like cattle. And had some major players controlling it. ALL had at least 2 major things in common.

BTW I found out 2 things today, ironically because of a boy that got raped! They made me sick to my stomache, and I can't even mention THAT here.

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Kay King

11 years ago

it quickly escalated

Because increasingly we have a population who love to talk and protest - as opposed to DOING something useful.

The important thing is no longer "standing for something" - it's complaining loud enough to get media attention and gain followers whether you have something useful to say or not.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Because increasingly we have a population who love to talk and protest - as opposed to DOING something useful.

The important thing is no longer "standing for something" - it's complaining loud enough to get media attention and gain followers whether you have something useful to say or not.

By escalated, I mean even world wide.

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TLTheLiberator

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I don't think Occupy was a plot - but it definitely was a tool and more than one group used it to their advantage.

It was a good example of an attempt at a big bang that ended in a fizzle. It you want to have a "movement" you need to have a defined cause - they didn't.

Steve - There's a house for sale where a large part of the house is an old missile silo. It's surrounded by a huge piece of land and there's a small "standard" house built on top of the silo entrance.

I want to live there. It's like the ultimate "under the rock" lifestyle.

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Not to be argumentative but...

Lots of people say the occupy movement did help change the conversation around the country to...

... the well off and large corps are doing just fine - now what about the rest of us?

IMHO...

They may not have taken over the fed gov, or had a defined set of goals or even put a lot of their candidates into office etc. and the movement may have fizzled out.

But IMHO...

Occupy helped re-frame the 2012 presidential election by helping to further clarify the diffs between the two major parties in the eyes of many Americans and more importantly also helped to further brand one of the major candidates as Mr. 1% personified - ...

...especially in the battleground states.

And if exit polls are to be believed...

I hear that...

Exit polls showed that around 55% of those who voted, said Mr. so-called 1%'s set of policies would only help the rich and they also voted 9-1 against that candidate - helping the other candidate get re-elected.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Not to be argumentative but...

Lots of people say the occupy movement did help change the conversation around the country to...

... the well off and large corps are doing just fine - now what about the rest of us?

IMHO...

They may not have taken over the fed gov, or had a defined set of goals or even put a lot of their candidates into office etc. and the movement may have fizzled out.

But IMHO...

Occupy helped re-frame the 2012 presidential election by helping to further clarify the diffs between the two major parties in the eyes of many Americans and more importantly also helped to further brand one of the major candidates as Mr. 1% personified - ...

...especially in the battleground states.

And if exit polls are to be believed...

I hear that...

Exit polls showed that around 55% of those who voted, said Mr. so-called 1%'s set of policies would only help the rich and they also voted 9-1 against that candidate - helping the other candidate get re-elected.

All The Best!!

TL

You are REALLY starting to get political here!

Anyway ******EVERYTHING****** "change(s) the conversation". EVERYTHING! WWI? WWII? Iraq? Iran? Afganistan? Sandy Hook? I could go on and on. SO WHAT!?

BTW further in the news? What people 10 years ago said would never happen is pushing forward, made major strides the week before last, and even YESTERDAY! Gold is going down NOW, but what about NEXT WEEK? It might change in a hurry!

Yesterday, there was a lucky break because of a bit of news that I do NOT believe AT ALL! MOST such news, in the past decade, was revised DOWN, in the next run. I wonder when people will start just ignoring such news. How many DON'T believe it but act like it is true ONLY because they feel others may likewise act?

ALSO, as well as the market SEEMS to be doing, it is still minor compared to the move yesterday, let alone last week.

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TLTheLiberator

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

You are REALLY starting to get political here!

Anyway ******EVERYTHING****** "change(s) the conversation". EVERYTHING! WWI? WWII? Iraq? Iran? Afganistan? Sandy Hook? I could go on and on. SO WHAT!?

BTW further in the news? What people 10 years ago said would never happen is pushing forward, made major strides the week before last, and even YESTERDAY! Gold is going down NOW, but what about NEXT WEEK? It might change in a hurry!

Yesterday, there was a lucky break because of a bit of news that I do NOT believe AT ALL! MOST such news, in the past decade, was revised DOWN, in the next run. I wonder when people will start just ignoring such news. How many DON'T believe it but act like it is true ONLY because they feel others may likewise act?

ALSO, as well as the market SEEMS to be doing, it is still minor compared to the move yesterday, let alone last week.

Steve

I thought I was simply offering a different opinion on the meme that the occupy movement was nothing more than a waste of time for the people involved.

Note: It's an opinion that is not based on any hard data.

imho....

For hard data, someone would have to commission a poll with folks from the so-called "battleground" states to gauge their feelings on the impact of occupy on their voting patterns - if any.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I thought I was simply offering a different opinion on the meme that the occupy movement was nothing more than a waste of time for the people involved.

Note: It's an opinion that is not based on any hard data.

imho....

For hard data, someone would have to commission a poll with folks from the so-called "battleground" states to gauge their feelings on the impact of occupy on their voting patterns - if any.

All The Best!!

TL

Well, regarding the poll, you YOURSELF stipulated it. Obviously, they were paid to be there, poor, made minmum wage or less, or were very wealthy, or were enriched finacially by it. So you aren't too likely to find working people that made a good living that were there, that were $%^&*(. They would stand to lose too much, and not really gain anything,

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TLTheLiberator

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Well, regarding the poll, you YOURSELF stipulated it. Obviously, they were paid to be there, poor, made minmum wage or less, or were very wealthy, or were enriched finacially by it. So you aren't too likely to find working people that made a good living that were there, that were $%^&*(. They would stand to lose too much, and not really gain anything,

Steve

Also lots of students, recent grads who were unable to find jobs, along with the unemployed and I wouldn't be surprised if some were paid by someone to show up etc.

My point was regarding the impact of the movement or lack thereof.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Also lots of students, recent grads who were unable to find jobs, along with the unemployed and I wouldn't be surprised if some were paid by someone to show up etc.

My point was regarding the impact of the movement or lack thereof.

All The Best!!

TL

Students would ALSO not be at the "99%" gathering! WHAT would they gain? NOTHING! What would they lose? Possibly picked up for playing hooky! Possibly expelled! Possibly FLUNK classes! Maybe lose scholarships or financial aid. Likely end up BEHIND! I MEANT to include unemployed, though they would typically make minimum wage or less. Today is an odd aberration.

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TLTheLiberator

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Students would ALSO not be at the "99%" gathering! WHAT would they gain? NOTHING! What would they lose? Possibly picked up for playing hooky! Possibly expelled! Possibly FLUNK classes! Maybe lose scholarships or financial aid. Likely end up BEHIND! I MEANT to include unemployed, though they would typically make minimum wage or less. Today is an odd aberration.

Steve

IMHO...

College students interested in graduating into a society were there is full employment - instead what we have now might be with the occupy movement.

There were plenty of college students involved since many also don't like the student loan situation, and that's it on who was involved with occupy and why for me.

Once again...

...My point was regarding the impact of the movement or lack thereof.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

IMHO...

College students interested in graduating into a society were there is full employment - instead what we have now might be with the occupy movement.
With the blemishes on the college record, possible jail time, and possible

reputation problems, they may want to reconsider!

There were plenty of college students involved since many also don't like the student loan situation, and that's it on who was involved with occupy and why for me.

What do the FEDERALLY managed student loans have to do with the banks, etc... HECK, in congress recently they spoke of the expiration of FEDERAL rules possibly doubling the rates!

Once again...

...My point was regarding the impact of the movement or lack thereof.

All The Best!!

TL

Whatever, the problems are still there. There is no more talk NOW than before.

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11 years ago

If you realy MUST know.....Though I Would Love To!

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11 years ago

So you haven't noticed the poisons? You haven't noticed agenda 21? You haven't noticed the increased surveillance of EVERYONE? Have you been living under a rock?

The corporate, for profit prison system is not a "conspiracy theory". It's one of the reasons people are fighting against illegal hemp. I've worked with people who are on "work release" sentences and it's the worst slavery I've seen.

Agenda 21 -- is not an "agenda" or a conspiracy theory - it is a "Proposition". It is part of the UN Millennium Doctrine. It is a part of the plan to save and restore ecosystems globally so humans don't go extinct. There are other parts of the doctrine that are much more disturbing to me than this portion.

And the poisoning? Very few people are clueless about GMO, glysophate, fluoride, etc dangers. There are very large organizations of citizens fighting these poisons. These are not conspiracy theory. We are actually winning against fluoride as city after city is discontinuing it. GMO labeling is also starting to gain a foothold.

That's what I said - mix enough truth with the fantasy and people will swallow the whole kit and kaboodle or reject it all - all or nothing principle in logic.

I am, though, really considering the truth of Hillery being a lizard in real life

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

The corporate, for profit prison system is not a "conspiracy theory". It's one of the reasons people are fighting against illegal hemp. I've worked with people who are on "work release" sentences and it's the worst slavery I've seen.

Agenda 21 -- is not an "agenda" or a conspiracy theory - it is a "Proposition". It is part of the UN Millennium Doctrine. It is a part of the plan to save and restore ecosystems globally so humans don't go extinct. There are other parts of the doctrine that are much more disturbing to me than this portion.

And the poisoning? Very few people are clueless about GMO, glysophate, fluoride, etc dangers. There are very large organizations of citizens fighting these poisons. These are not conspiracy theory. We are actually winning against fluoride as city after city is discontinuing it. GMO labeling is also starting to gain a foothold.

That's what I said - mix enough truth with the fantasy and people will swallow the whole kit and kaboodle or reject it all - all or nothing principle in logic.

I am, though, really considering the truth of Hillery being a lizard in real life

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People often call fact that they want to belittle a THEORY. And if it requires a cabal or massive acceptance, they will call it a "conspiracy theory".

So I wasn't claiming they were theories or even conspiracies, but throwing the same term back.

Some "conspiracies" can be done by ONE person, and may simply APPEAR to be conspiracies if there is enough acceptance. The acceptance can merely be a lack of care, or ignorance.

Agenda 21 is being slowly implemented. I predicted the avian flu years before it happened. HOW? I heard interviews with those PLANNING it on NPR. They CLAIMED thet developing such a strain could somehow MAGICALLY lead to a vaccine against a strain that somehow was CERTAIN to MAGICALLY appear! IRONIC that they should be called the World Health Organization!( WHO | World Health Organization ) There are some claiming that they have evidence that HIV was man made as well! The laws, $%^&*, housing, and impoverishment are ALSO WELL on their way!

YOU seem to think Agenda 21 is well meaning. It is NOT! It was written by a bunch of idiots that really don't have good plans for the rest of society. THEY, of course, are NOT doing this for free! FAR FROM IT! So they hope to be a kind of superclass.

Do I think we need to curtail land/water pollution? YEP! There are MANY ways this can be done!

Do I think we need to cut down on populations? YEP! Just getting rid of incentives, and maybe creating disincentives, to have kids like China, would go a LONG way towards that!

Do I think we need to cut down on air pollution? YEP! Just up to this point would help a LOT, but treat plants right!

Do I think we should take care of disease? YEP! Just doing things up to this point would help a LOT, but start enforcing laws, even if they are not "PC".

Do I think we should take care of country animosity? YEP! Start following the PROMISE of the UN! The ******PROMISE******! The UN was originally to give everyone a voice to improve peace and relations between the governments. These days, it is anything BUT! Most of the leaders just want an agenda that is NOT good for the people of ANY nation. If EVEN the UNSG can't follow the PROMISE of the UN, KICK HIM OUT AND DOWN THE STEPS! I PROMISE! That ONE act(for ALL that have a voice there) would change the world relationships SO fast it would make your head spin! The first two atom bombs were apparently dropped because of ONE word in the response from ONE country. BTW I used the UNSG as an example ONLY because he is the head guy there. That is NOT to make a statement about Ki-moon. I have heard stories about many leaders there, but I don't know if I ever heard about HIM.

Do I think we should do something about the laws? YEP! How about reverting all to the late 1950s, getting rid of those against people based on color, race, or sex, of course. And ENFORCE them.

Do I think we should do something about education? YEP! Up to this point, it shouldn't be an issue.

Do I think we should do anything about food, etc? YEP! How about that NO plant can be rendered sterile, and that NO plant can be changed in any way and treated as anything like food unless tested on rats, chimps, and cows for 2 generations or 3 years(whichever is longer). And it should ****CLEARLY**** be classed as a special modified food until after 60 years of human use, without any increase in infirmity statistics. BTW chimps and cows have similarities to humans, and rats reproduce fast and are mammals, and that is why I picked them.

Do I think we should do something about housing? NOPE! Up to this point, it would not be an issue!

Do I think we should do something about famine? NOPE! Up to this point, it would not be an issue!

Do I think we should take care of poverty? NOPE! Up to this point, it would not be an issue.

We would see all the promised Agenda 21 benefits, and none of the problems. Some of the richer people would be poorer, and almost all of the poorer would be richer!

Do I think this will happen? NOPE! There IS a worldwide conspiracy! SORRY, it is FACT! I could start giving examples, but.... Anyway, what I suggested would be AGAINST their conspiracy, It would obliterate it. And the UN is one of the venues they like BEST to further their agenda(of which A21 is just ONE attempt to help spread it). After all, they only have like 3-6 billion people under their rule. Of those, maybe only 2-3 billion know it. Of those, maybe up to 50% are against them. They ALSO had a hand in most of the wars in this century.

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