Not In Child-Raising Users' Manual

HeySal

11 years ago

My nephew was like that. Always had to know how things work. He's now an adult and a successful engineer. LOL.

[ 1 ] Thanks

Signature

Sal
When the Roads and Paths end, learn to guide yourself through the wilderness
Beyond the Path

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8228774].message }}

Joe Mobley

11 years ago

There's a wonderful phrase. I use it all the time. Saves me a ton of work and aggravation.

I don't know.

Try it. Use it on everybody for a solid week and see how it works out for you.

I'm just saying.

Joe Mobley

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Now my toddler is demanding explanations of different electronics icons and functions. Now I have to peruse users manuals to find the answers, lol.

Thanks
2 replies

Signature

.

Follow Me on Twitter: @daVinciJoe

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8229022].message }}

Kay King 11 years ago

When you tell him what the answer is - does he ask a follow up answer....or think up "another question to ask Daddy"?

Start quizzing him a bit on the answers - if you're going to look them up...make sure he remembers what he learned.

If he keeps asking questions as he gets older - you'll have the perfect opportunity to say "I don't know - let's go look it up" and he can learn how to research and find answers and that's good training.
- [ 2 ] Thanks
Signature

Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog
***
Live life like someone left the gate open
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8229589].message }}

thunderbird

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Mobley

There's a wonderful phrase. I use it all the time. Saves me a ton of work and aggravation.

Try it. Use it on everybody for a solid week and see how it works out for you.

I'm just saying.

Joe Mobley

I do say, "I don't know," to him. He replies, "Let's find out." Nowadays, "I don't know" doesn't cut it with the younger generations. It's not like we have to go to the library to find these factoids any more. I can look it up on my cellphone, lol.

[ 1 ] Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Project HERE.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8229739].message }}

Joe Mobley

11 years ago

I can appreciate that. Is he at an age where he can Google stuff on his own?

Joe Mobley

Originally Posted by thunderbird

I do say, "I don't know," to him. He replies, "Let's find out." Nowadays, "I don't know" doesn't cut it with the younger generations. It's not like we have to go to the library to find these factoids any more. I can look it up on my cellphone, lol.

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

.

Follow Me on Twitter: @daVinciJoe

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8230985].message }}

thunderbird 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Mobley

I can appreciate that. Is he at an age where he can Google stuff on his own?

Joe Mobley

Nope. He's just 3. He's hitting the milestones pretty much as is usual for his age. I know some kids are Googling at 2, saying capital cities of every country in the world and whatnot. He's throwing toy cars across the room and shouting, "Magic School Bus!" (I have Terra to "thank" for that, lol). A regular dude, thus far, I'd say.
- [ 1 ] Thanks
Signature

Project HERE.
{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8231538].message }}

bizgrower

11 years ago

"Everything I Need to Know I Learned from Thunderbird's Three Year Old."
(Years ago there was a popular book by that title, except "...Learned in Kindergarden.")
So,kudos to you.

I hope you are archiving these threads on a hard drive for use as a family history.

[ 2 ] Thanks

Signature

"If you think you're the smartest person in the room, then you're probably in the wrong room."

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8229681].message }}

seasoned

11 years ago

The internet has a lot of info. I wish I could help, but "icon" could mean anything. Where is he seeing them?

In this day and age, with a middle class canadian in a free time talk with his/her child, "I don't know" off the cuff just doesn't cut it.

Steve

Steve

[ 1 ] Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8230401].message }}

thunderbird

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

The internet has a lot of info. I wish I could help, but "icon" could mean anything. Where is he seeing them?

In this day and age, with a middle class canadian in a free time talk with his/her child, "I don't know" off the cuff just doesn't cut it.

Steve

I did manage to figure out the icons and their meanings. It wasn't so hard, but I didn't have the answers right away. Just icons on various electronic products, eg printer and cell phone. He also asked me what the icon for "microchip" is. Ever since that story appeared on wf about the deaf child whose deafness was cured by a microchip implantation, he's been fascinated by them. He recently implanted a microchip to cure the deafness of his Lego Goofy (that he created. Pretty abstract).

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Project HERE.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8230619].message }}

seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

I did manage to figure out the icons and their meanings. It wasn't so hard, but I didn't have the answers right away. Just icons on various electronic products, eg printer and cell phone. He also asked me what the icon for "microchip" is. Ever since that story appeared on wf about the deaf child whose deafness was cured by a microchip implantation, he's been fascinated by them. He recently implanted a microchip to cure the deafness of his Lego Goofy (that he created. Pretty abstract).

Now you see, that is an ARTISTS representation of what an IC would look like. To say "This is the symbol for an IC" would be a LIE! 6 pin ICs are pretty rare, and all ics are different. When I was a kid, most were 8 pin. They increased a couple times till they got to be about 40 pin. The 6502 and Z80 were 40 pin. I think een the first 8088 class ones were 40 pin. They were called DIPS(Dual Inline packages). NOW, with some newer ICs, they have BGAs(Ball Grid Arrays) that are HUGE! An IC is simple to illustrate, It is one of the few where pictoral or schematic are the same. A rectangle with leads coming off of it.

To your right of the following page, it shows BOTH:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_diagram

Steve

[ 1 ] Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8231336].message }}

mckiepiper

11 years ago

Hah that's awesome. It's amazing how much kiddos will pick up at such a young age!

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8232124].message }}

seasoned

11 years ago

Well, I know I was reading before 4yo. If the people in my first grade class were any indication, I would say the average person starts not much before 6yo. ALSO, 1st grade was the first really MANDATED year, so it may have been the first year many went to school.

Still, if your child is REALLY interested, EXPOSE HIM TO BOOKS, and writing! He may start reading before you know it.

I polled several teachers about 25 years ago, and most said they were NOT concerned that some older kids in their classes couldn't read. NOW, they are talking about throwing out cursive altogether! HERE is a page that may blow your mind:

http://www.dailypaul.com/290930/scho...is-in-jeopardy

Steve

Thanks
2 replies

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8232373].message }}

thunderbird

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Well, I know I was reading before 4yo. If the people in my first grade class were any indication, I would say the average person starts not much before 6yo. ALSO, 1st grade was the first really MANDATED year, so it may have been the first year many went to school.

Still, if your child is REALLY interested, EXPOSE HIM TO BOOKS, and writing! He may start reading before you know it.

I polled several teachers about 25 years ago, and most said they were NOT concerned that some older kids in their classes couldn't read. NOW, they are talking about throwing out cursive altogether! HERE is a page that may blow your mind:

http://www.dailypaul.com/290930/scho...is-in-jeopardy

Steve

You were reading before 4? That is impressive. It's always been obvious that you have a higher level intellect. I only started talking at 4, due to my idiosyncratic cognitive profile or whatever.

We read books to our son all the time. He enjoys not only being read to but sometimes telling the story to us, but his version of it (not reading it). When it comes learning how to read, he's not particularly driven in that direction. He knows numbers and the alphabet and knew it one year ago. He's also building up on simple arithmetic (which crows have been shown to do, so I guess that's not exactly amazing). We want him to grow and play organically -- no "tiger parenting" or any BS like that. He's doing fine and whatever he does will be because he genuinely likes and is interested in it, not because some tyrannical parent is hovering over him not letting him pee until he finishes playing that song on violin.

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Project HERE.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8232789].message }}

seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

You were reading before 4? That is impressive. It's always been obvious that you have a higher level intellect. I only started talking at 4, due to my idiosyncratic cognitive profile or whatever.

We read books to our son all the time. He enjoys not only being read to but sometimes telling the story to us, but his version of it (not reading it). When it comes learning how to read, he's not particularly driven in that direction. He knows numbers and the alphabet and knew it one year ago. He's also building up on simple arithmetic (which crows have been shown to do, so I guess that's not exactly amazing). We want him to grow and play organically -- no "tiger parenting" or any BS like that. He's doing fine and whatever he does will be because he genuinely likes and is interested in it, not because some tyrannical parent is hovering over him not letting him pee until he finishes playing that song on violin.

I wasn't suggesting ANY pressure. just exposure. If I didn't know a word, I ASKED! If somehow I couldn't, I looked it up. Sometimes I almost made a game of it where I would look up the word, get EVERY definition, and maybe look up words THERE and do likewise. Pressuring is the WORST thing you can do, especially if they are young, but exposure, or a little nudge, should be fine in ANYONE'S book!

Steve

Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8233143].message }}

thunderbird

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

I wasn't suggesting ANY pressure. just exposure. If I didn't know a word, I ASKED! If somehow I couldn't, I looked it up. Sometimes I almost made a game of it where I would look up the word, get EVERY definition, and maybe look up words THERE and do likewise. Pressuring is the WORST thing you can do, especially if they are young, but exposure, or a little nudge, should be fine in ANYONE'S book!

Steve

I totally agree with you there, and didn't mean to suggest that you were (kind of an ongoing debate I'm having with folks in my circles of the tiger-parenting persuasion). I believe that it is only through exposure that he can discover what his natural affinities are. He does pick up on abstract concepts that I didn't know someone so young would be able to grasp (being a first-time parent) such as maps, near and far, that things look small at a distance, that we live on a planet, orbits, musical notes. He does not enjoy "circle time" in his pre-school and I asked him to explain why. He said they sing out of tune and it "hurts" his ears. I asked him to explain what he meant by "hurts" and he pinched me and said, "Hurts like this."

Thanks
1 reply

Signature

Project HERE.

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8233176].message }}

seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

I totally agree with you there, and didn't mean to suggest that you were (kind of an ongoing debate I'm having with folks in my circles of the tiger-parenting persuasion). I believe that it is only through exposure that he can discover what his natural affinities are. He does pick up on abstract concepts that I didn't know someone so young would be able to grasp (being a first-time parent) such as maps, near and far, that things look small at a distance, that we live on a planet, orbits, musical notes. He does not enjoy "circle time" in his pre-school and I asked him to explain why. He said they sing out of tune and it "hurts" his ears. I asked him to explain what he meant by "hurts" and he pinched me and said, "Hurts like this."

Kids have FAR more potential than most adults are willing to believe. FAR MORE! It always astounded me how little adults think kids can do.

Stvee

[ 1 ] Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8233203].message }}

MissTerraK

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Well, I know I was reading before 4yo. If the people in my first grade class were any indication, I would say the average person starts not much before 6yo. ALSO, 1st grade was the first really MANDATED year, so it may have been the first year many went to school.

Still, if your child is REALLY interested, EXPOSE HIM TO BOOKS, and writing! He may start reading before you know it.

I polled several teachers about 25 years ago, and most said they were NOT concerned that some older kids in their classes couldn't read. NOW, they are talking about throwing out cursive altogether! HERE is a page that may blow your mind:

http://www.dailypaul.com/290930/scho...is-in-jeopardy

Steve

My oldest daughter and my son were also.

But, moving on to my second daughter who wasn't. Her memory was amazing.

Anyway, she told her grandma that she could read and her grandma said, "Great! Let's hear you do it."

So she ran and got her favorite book, The Pokey Little Puppy, and proceeded to recite the story.

After a bit, her grandma said, You're not reading the book, you aren't turning the pages."

Then my daughter tossed the book aside and said, "I know! I can read so good that I don't even need the book! "

And then began right where she left off reciting the book word per word.

Terra

[ 1 ] Thanks
1 reply

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8232866].message }}

seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

My oldest daughter and my son were also.

But, moving on to my second daughter who wasn't. Her memory was amazing.

Anyway, she told her grandma that she could read and her grandma said, "Great! Let's hear you do it."

So she ran and got her favorite book, The Pokey Little Puppy, and proceeded to recite the story.

After a bit, her grandma said, You're not reading the book, you aren't turning the pages."

Then my daughter tossed the book aside and said, "I know! I can read so good that I don't even need the book! "

And then began right where she left off reciting the book word per word.

Terra

Yeah, One of the worst things I did was buy a printer. My ability, and willingness, to debug large programs in my head seemed to degrade. It was just so much easier to print out on a printer, and debug that way. STILL, it is odd. If I need to, I can do some mental feats that ***I*** think are pretty good, like do a superficial search of my home, or a fairly complete one of parts of the neighborhood or store, without even moving. My memory is odd! Some things I brush by and seem to have them down for like 40+ years. OTHER things I struggle to learn, though they should be JUST as easy!

Steve

Thanks

{{ DiscussionBoard.errors[8233195].message }}

Not In Child-Raising Users' Manual

Trending Topics

Any thoughts on golf's latest phenom...Scottie Scheffler??

The Twilight Zone

Should i Index Author pages?

best high quality crypto traffic.

What's the Best IM-Related Skill to Learn Today That Can Help in the Future?