why people feel bad for not tipping

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why is it that certain location and jobs get tips, but others simply get the exact fee... and its odd that we feel bad when we don't tip although we already paid for our order...
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  • Profile picture of the author adenicol
    If someone waits on me (at a table) I will usually leave a tip unless the service is horrible. I don't usually tip if I place a phone order for pick up or even walk in to a restaurant and place an order to go. I don't feel bad about that at all, I figure they aren't really doing anything above and beyond their basic job duties (taking the order, placing it in a bag, and handing it to me) so I don't tip extra.

    Basically if someone goes beyond their basic job functions (sets my garbage can up straight instead of just tossing it into my yard, getting my newspaper near my front door instead of in our pond, etc) I usually leave them a tip when it is appropriate (holidays for example).

    If they have earned it, they get it. If they haven't then it's not me not tipping them, it's me not giving them something extra which they didn't earn.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    In many cases, servers depend on tips in order to just make ends meet. In the West, it is standard practice to tip for good service, and has been for generations and generations. 10% for just acceptable, 15% for pretty good (standard), and I'll tip generously if service is especially good and pleasant, eg one case in which a waitress actually entertained my 3-year-old son and cheered him up when he was all grumpy (it would have been absurd to expect service to do that).
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      In many cases, servers depend on tips in order to just make ends meet. In the West, it is standard practice to
      tip for good service
      , and has been for generations and generations. 10% for just acceptable, 15% for pretty good (standard), and I'll tip generously if service is especially good and pleasant, eg one case in which a waitress actually entertained my 3-year-old son and cheered him up when he was all grumpy (it would have been absurd to expect service to do that).
      Why is it that people forget that? If a waiter, or waitress, isn't out of line, and entertains, cheers up, or helps a person in MY group, I would be HAPPY to pay for that! I mean I may pay upwards of $5/hour(or portion thereof) JUST FOR THAT, even if we go in for a $10 meal at mcdonalds! But if they ignore me, delay, act rude, touch my food, delay me, or cause me to choke, they shouldn't get anywhere NEAR the 20%!

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    I think we don't want to let the others down and in this case the waiter. We don't want to let the waiter down or feeling not good on us so this believe makes us wanting to give them a tip for serving us.

    I felt it several time. lol.

    But sometime when I don't feel this feelings, most of the time I will forget to tip. =D
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
    A server's hourly wage is based on the fact that they will also receive tips. I'm not sure if it is still happening, but minimum wage for servers (by law) was lower than regular minimum wage at one point.

    In most places they are also required to share their tips with other staff.....host/hostess, busboy/girl, etc.

    Serving is a tough job and I admire those who do it. I would never tip below 15% and usually stick to 20%.
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    • Profile picture of the author Patrician
      Originally Posted by Jacqueline Smith View Post

      A server's hourly wage is based on the fact that they will also receive tips. I'm not sure if it is still happening, but minimum wage for servers (by law) was lower than regular minimum wage at one point.

      In most places they are also required to share their tips with other staff.....host/hostess, busboy/girl, etc.

      Serving is a tough job and I admire those who do it. I would never tip below 15% and usually stick to 20%.
      With all that being said, and though true, we are enabling the 'sweat shop' employer to be 'off the hook' by being expected to and even socially 'required' to tip,* so he can go on exploiting both his employees and his customers.

      That part I don't get. :rolleyes:

      * (if the service was good) - and if we can afford it, it's always win/win to tip someone who was especially nice and/or efficient.

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  • Profile picture of the author BTM
    I always tip unless the person is extremely horrible at their job and acts like they just don't care. Otherwise we tip 25% or more depending on if they go above and beyond.

    A lot of servers only make minimum wage, so every little bit helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
    i take my car to the garage, i pay the bill

    i go to the doctor i pay the bill

    so why should some eating house have different demands

    in south korea, they will chase you down the street to return the tip. it is their pleasure to serve you.

    in singapore, locals frown upon tipping, while guilt ridden toursists feel a compulsion to tip

    such is life
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    • Profile picture of the author jimbo13
      I don't feel bad in the slightest.

      Then again I can't actually think of any places in the UK that people would expect a tip apart from certain Restaurants.

      Dan
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

      i take my car to the garage, i pay the bill

      i go to the doctor i pay the bill

      so why should some eating house have different demands

      in south korea, they will chase you down the street to return the tip. it is their pleasure to serve you.

      in singapore, locals frown upon tipping, while guilt ridden toursists feel a compulsion to tip

      such is life
      Those are other cultures, different economic set-up. Presumably they pay their service enough that they would even be willing to work at the jobs.

      You go to a country, you should respect their laws and cultures.

      In you're in Korea, respect their laws and customs.

      In Singapore, respect their laws and customs.

      In the United States, , respect their laws and customs.

      In the UK, respect their laws and customs.

      In every country, they frown upon people who disrespect their laws and cultures.
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      • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        Those are other cultures, different economic set-up. Presumably they pay their service enough that they would even be willing to work at the jobs.

        You go to a country, you should respect their laws and cultures.

        In you're in Korea, respect their laws and customs.

        In Singapore, respect their laws and customs.

        In the United States, , respect their laws and customs.

        In the UK, respect their laws and customs.

        In every country, they frown upon people who disrespect their laws and cultures.
        i specialise in travelling to non tipping cultures, although china is becoming tipridden as an a result of increasing tourism and lack of respect for their laws and customs
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    • Profile picture of the author SashaLee
      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      Then you should go up the the counter, order your meal from the cook, then go get it and clean the table before you leave.
      Hi there,

      You have a point however, the world has now become accustomed to the process of tipping. Indeed, the receipts (in America) are designed to imply that you SHOULD provide a tip.

      Long gone are the days when someone would be grateful to do the job they are assigned in such a way as to impress their peers and their superiors so as to make themselves eligible for promotion, without concentration on the monetary reimbursement they'd receive for doing what they were hired to do in the first place.

      All the best,

      Sasha.
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    • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      Then you should go up the the counter, order your meal from the cook, then go get it and clean the table before you leave.
      sounds too much like mcds
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    • Profile picture of the author kentah
      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      Then you should go up the the counter, order your meal from the cook, then go get it and clean the table before you leave.
      BTW the cook is also indirectly serving you. So if this is your argument, you should tip everybody, the cook, the guard at the door...
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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by kentah View Post

        BTW the cook is also indirectly serving you. So if this is your argument, you should tip everybody, the cook, the guard at the door...
        In any decent restaurant, the cooks are paid a much higher wage than the wait staff. Wait staff are paid an hourly wage that is below the minimum wage, due to the fact that they are classified as "tipped" employees. Cooks and other employees are not classified as "tipped" employees and therefore are paid at the very least, minimum wage and in better restaurants, much more. I was married to a chef and know what they get paid.

        Federal Law

        As of 2013, the federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. Employers may claim a tip credit for employees who regularly earn more than $30 per month in tips. However, the employer must pay the wait staff at least $2.13 per hour as a cash wage. If the employee's cash wages and tips combined are less than $7.25 per hour, the employer is legally obligated to pay the employee the difference.
        I spent many years working as a waitress before I learned computer related work. I was paid $2.01 per hour. That was what employers were allowed to pay tipped staff at that time. It's now all the way up to $2.13 per hour.

        The work is grueling, hard physical work. Thank goodness that there are enough educated customers to make it worthwhile in a decent restaurant. There are still plenty of customers who are under the illusion that table service, waiting on someone hand and foot, comes with the meal. It does not. It is intended that you the customer pay the wait staff for that service. Tips are essential to make up the difference between a tipped employee's hourly wage and federal minimum wage.

        In addition, in many restaurants, the waiter is expected to tip the busboys and the bartenders a percentage of their tips.

        I have many stories about customers and their tipping habits. I worked for an all you can eat seafood house and the work was particularly grueling because of the many times needed to come to the table with food at an all you can eat restaurant and the long distance from kitchen to table in some sections.

        I had a large party of trash collectors one night. Their boss was taking them all out. He requested an additional server to take care of his employees (20 of them), fresh off their jobs of collecting trash. I told him that this my station and that I promised him if I couldn't take good care of them, I'd get help. I didn't need help and knew it. The bill was quite large and the tip was exceptional ($300 tip). Real class.

        I also had a large party of Washington Redskins. They were rude, crude and demanding and got the same fast excellent service that my party of trash collectors did. Party of 20 lowlife football players and wives left a total of a couple of bucks in change on the table. As they left the restaurant, I gathered it up and threw it on the sidewalk as they walked away and told them that they accidentally left something on the table. I could have been fired for that, but I wasn't. It has been my opinion since that trash collectors have a great deal more class than football players do.

        In both cases, the parties were so large and stayed so long that their tables were the only parties I had for the entire shift. Their tips would be my income for the entire shift that I worked. Needless to say, I didn't make enough to cover my babysitting expenses when I had the Washington Redskins in my station.

        I tip 25-30% for service. The only exception would be for rude service. I don't penalize for incompetence ... only rudeness. Incompetence can indicate simply that the wait staff is new or hasn't had sufficient training.

        I could never bring myself to go into a restaurant and buy a cup of coffee for a buck and leave less than $1 on the table. That's me. I know all the work that is involved in something as simple as bringing a cup of coffee to the table. It involves a lot more than simply bringing that cup of coffee to the table. There are a lot of "chores", commonly referred to as sidework that the wait staff is responsible for, which involves keeping all areas that they work in clean and often food prep work, such as making the salads that they will be serving on their shift and making desserts, etc. Wait staff are not paid minimum wage for these side chores.

        I don't know what the system is in other countries, but that's the way it is here in the US. There are several states that do not allow employers to take the tip credit and they must pay minimum wage, but most of the states do allow the tip credit.

        If you're too cheap to pay for service, go to a fast food restaurant or order carryout from the counter personnel and don't mess up anyone's tables while you're waiting for the food, so they don't have to clean up after you. Alternatively, you could just go to grocery store and cook and clean and serve it yourself.
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        • Profile picture of the author kentah
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          In any decent restaurant, the cooks are paid a much higher wage than the wait staff. Wait staff are paid an hourly wage that is below the minimum wage, due to the fact that they are classified as "tipped" employees. Cooks and other employees are not classified as "tipped" employees and therefore are paid at the very least, minimum wage and in better restaurants, much more. I was married to a chef and know what they get paid.
          How much the wait staff gets paid is not my problem as a customer.
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by kentah View Post

            How much the wait staff gets paid is not my problem as a customer.
            Well, there's certainly no shortage of those who are ignorant and don't want to pay for service. Not much different than the freebie seekers you see here, like you for instance. You have a great deal of posts asking for review copies of people's products and downloading free ebooks in the Free Ebook section here called Make Money Online. Not surprising that you don't feel the need to pay for the service you get.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kurt
            Originally Posted by kentah View Post

            How much the wait staff gets paid is not my problem as a customer.
            But as a human being, it is your problem.

            If you don't want to tip, simply don't go to places where tipping is part of the system. There are plenty of options. If you do and don't tip, you're just a cheater taking advantage of the system and the generosity of others. You don't deserve the same service I do.
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            • Profile picture of the author kentah
              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              But as a human being, it is your problem.

              If you don't want to tip, simply don't go to places where tipping is part of the system. There are plenty of options. If you do and don't tip, you're just a cheater taking advantage of the system and the generosity of others. You don't deserve the same service I do.

              My point is I do not tip because they are underpaid. I tip because I got an above average service.
              How much they are paid is not my problem (and me tipping them cannot be the solution). Why would you want to go to a restaurant where the staff are exploited anyway? Your giving the restaurant's management an incentive to continue underpaying the staff.
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              • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                Originally Posted by kentah View Post

                My point is I do not tip because they are underpaid. I tip because I got an above average service.
                How much they are paid is not my problem (and me tipping them cannot be the solution). Why would you want to go to a restaurant where the staff are exploited anyway? Your giving the restaurant's management an incentive to continue underpaying the staff.
                So you're saying that you do not go to restaurants that pay their staff according to Federal Law and take the tipping credit because they exploit their employees. Yeah, right.

                You obviously know nothing about the food service industry. A good waiter or waitress in a good restaurant (one that doesn't typically attract many low rent customers who feel that tipping is a gift) can make a good living if they're up to the hard work involved and they have good social skills. Good wait staff in good restaurants are not underpaid, and the occasional cheapo that wanders in is factored in their overall workload.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Do people realize that a server gets TAXED on their food sale total? If your aren't tipping at least 8% - they are actually paying to wait on you.

    And it is correct that in some states servers only make around $3.15 an hour in wages - they make the wages solely to offset taxes. Some states, bartenders only make waitress wages, too. I also agree that it's pretty scummy for an employer to depend on his customers to pay his staff, but that's something I would never take out on the server. It should be something that should be taken up with state legislators, though. I think it's absolutely disgusting to think you can run a business without having to pay your employees fairly.

    If the service is terrible, I will still pay the 8% they are taxed -- unless they are insulting. In that case, though - the manager usually ends up waiting on me. I've only been insulted twice in my life by a server, though.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Do people realize that a server gets TAXED on their food sale total? If your aren't tipping at least 8% - they are actually paying to wait on you.

      And it is correct that in some states servers only make around $3.15 an hour in wages - they make the wages solely to offset taxes. Some states, bartenders only make waitress wages, too. I also agree that it's pretty scummy for an employer to depend on his customers to pay his staff, but that's something I would never take out on the server. It should be something that should be taken up with state legislators, though. I think it's absolutely disgusting to think you can run a business without having to pay your employees fairly.

      If the service is terrible, I will still pay the 8% they are taxed -- unless they are insulting. In that case, though - the manager usually ends up waiting on me. I've only been insulted twice in my life by a server, though.
      My mother was a server for over 30 years (in New Jersey). I can tell you without a DOUBT that she did not think this was a scummy setup at all. Know why?

      Because she made a LOT more than her counterparts in areas that did not make tips but were paid a "fair wage".

      And she also liked having cash every day she worked. Which was great for us as teens - we could always get cigarette money

      Here in the NY/NJ area where tipping is commonplace, those I know in this business would NEVER want to get that "fair wage" from those scummy bosses. They'd lose money. Seriously. They would. Back in the 70's, working in diners, my mother made between $35 and $200 per DAY, depending on the day and shift.

      Just saying
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I like tipping. Giving a waiter/waitress/bartender/card dealer/pizza delivery person an extra buck or two more than the other guy makes me feel good because it makes them feel good.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    'Mandatory' tipping today (imo) is an American thing.

    After travelling through Europe and being in the UK for the past two years, I've noticed that servers here don't expect a tip.

    Why? Well they are paid a TRUE minimum wage not one thats made up from tips.

    The cost is also passed on most of the time via the menu so there really is no need to tip UNLESS your waiter really went above and beyond.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Josh Monroe View Post

      'Mandatory' tipping today (imo) is an American thing.

      After travelling through Europe and being in the UK for the past two years, I've noticed that servers here don't expect a tip.

      Why? Well they are paid a TRUE minimum wage not one thats made up from tips.

      The cost is also passed on most of the time via the menu so there really is no need to tip UNLESS your waiter really went above and beyond.
      The idea of mandatory tipping seems to have been UNHEARD OF when I was a kid, like before 1980. Then again, they likely got a decent salary for the job.

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author clarkfaint
    I think tips should be earned not expected. That being said I normally tip 20% if the service was standard. I will go below or above depending on how far the service went below or above what I consider standard.
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  • Profile picture of the author Silas Hart
    I used to be a waiter when I was in college. I worked at a Dennys on Rural Rd in Tempe, AZ. This topic is near and dear to my little heart.

    You know what? I didn't make crap working as a waiter in a college town. You know whose fault it was? It was mine for not going to my boss and saying "I perform a service that is beneficial to your business, I demand more money" - and if they would have fired me then so be it - but you know what I did? I quit. I quit because I lived in a country where I had free choice and I chose that I didn't make enough money doing what I was doing so I did something else and in the end, it was the company (Dennys) fault for feeling like I was only worth a couple bucks per hour and not our customers fault for not tipping me.

    My free choice is what brought me to China to make even more money. Its not my responsibility to pay more than what I agree to pay because of the choices other people make and for not standing up and saying "uh, hey... I need at Least minimum wage."

    If that makes me a jerk, than so be it.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Silas Hart View Post

      You know what? I didn't make crap working as a waiter in a college town. You know whose fault it was? It was mine for not going to my boss and saying "I perform a service that is beneficial to your business, I demand more money" - and if they would have fired me then so be it - but you know what I did? I quit. I quit because I lived in a country where I had free choice and I chose that I didn't make enough money doing what I was doing so I did something else and in the end, it was the company (Dennys) fault for feeling like I was only worth a couple bucks per hour and not our customers fault for not tipping me.
      I didn't work for fast food restaurants as a waitress. It's a given that fast food customers are not going to be big tippers. It's a given that the money won't be worth it at places like Denny's. I worked for restaurants that attracted savvy customers who expected excellent service and paid well for it. As in any job I've ever had, I gave 100% to it.

      I eventually taught myself the skills required to get IT contract positions making a lot more than my food service career, but I made a respectable living and raised 4 children as a single parent on my waitress earnings. I would never have been able to physically keep up the pace as I aged in that business. I haven't worked for "someone else" in over 13 years, but I never regret the experience that I had in food service.

      As far as I'm concerned, anyone who doesn't want to pay for service, whether it be Denny's or a 5-star restaurant shouldn't get service. They belong in the buffet lines or standing in line at McDonald's where they get their shit thrown at them on a plastic tray.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
          I was able to work for Piggly Wigliey (sp) when I was 12 back in the 50's. I sacked and carried the groceries to customers car. No one was supposed to tip, but the vast majority of the time folks who actually had the money to do so would tip from a nickle, dime, quarter and every once in a great while a $1.00 bill would hit my palm.

          Man I was in hog heaven with every tip I received and if it was a dollar I floated all day long. Would head to the cooler and buy a quart of chocolate milk to drink on the next break. Of course the quart was only 30 cents or so. Man what a life.

          Today I tip 20% almost all the time. And at McDs I try very hard to tip, the senior citizen cleaner, a couple of dollars. Who knows as a senior citizen I may end up doing the same job before I kick the bucket. But I have to tell you more them one of them has given it back because its against the rules and everyone of them have given me a big smile and thank you anyway.

          Every post in this thread has its points, some I absolutely agree with and some I absolutely don't agree with. But its your choice and aren't you glad you have that choice?

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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Way back when, I mean way back like this was my first job after high school for just one summer, back, I was a waitress at a very popular bowling alley. I waited the bowling leagues on the concourse 4 nights and in the quickie bar 1 night. I made between $300 and $600 a week in tips to supplement my $96.10 paycheck per week.

            All of my customers always told me they were tipping me for my service and the entertainment I provided. I was always singing as I gave them their drinks or making wisecracks right back at theirs. I always had them laughing or applauding, haha! I made the most tips of all of the waitresses. Those were the good old days.

            Anyway, I said all of that to say, I think a lot may depend on who the actual server is, and how well they do their job; if they are pleasant, cheery and go over and beyond their job description.

            Terra
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            • Profile picture of the author Sock Puppet Terra
              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

              <snip>
              All of my customers always told me they were tipping me for my service and the entertainment I provided. </snip>

              Terra

              What she didn't mention was this was an adults only bowling alley...
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              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                Originally Posted by Sock Puppet Terra View Post

                What she didn't mention was this was an adults only bowling alley...


                Haha! No one will believe you sock puppet, Dan. :p Especially if they knew me way back then. You have to remember I was in college working towards my degree in the arts with the emphasis on drama. I was a darn good actress and entertainer and was just merely practicing my craft. So there!

                Terra
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                • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                  Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post



                  Haha! No one will believe you sock puppet, Dan. :p Especially if they knew me way back then. You have to remember I was in college working towards my degree in the arts with the emphasis on drama. I was a darn good actress and entertainer and was just merely practicing my craft. So there!

                  Terra
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                  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                    Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                    I think this hurts your case more than it helps.
                    Dan, stop that! :p

                    Terra
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            • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

              Way back when, I mean way back like this was my first job after high school for just one summer, back, I was a waitress at a very popular bowling alley. I waited the bowling leagues on the concourse 4 nights and in the quickie bar 1 night. I made between $300 and $600 a week in tips to supplement my $96.10 paycheck per week.

              All of my customers always told me they were tipping me for my service and the entertainment I provided. I was always singing as I gave them their drinks or making wisecracks right back at theirs. I always had them laughing or applauding, haha! I made the most tips of all of the waitresses. Those were the good old days.

              Anyway, I said all of that to say, I think a lot may depend on who the actual server is, and how well they do their job; if they are pleasant, cheery and go over and beyond their job description.

              Terra
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              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman View Post

                Terra, Terra, Terra,

                You are such an easy mark. I always look forward to see what you come up with next. Makes my day.

                Ken
                Yikes!

                Man, I can't believe what you guys can read the wrong way, lol!

                How can I mind what I say, or rather, how I say it with you two and Claude always just around the corner?

                It was called the quickie bar because there was also a very hot dance club bar there too that you had to pay a cover charge to enter, and this one wasn't it, lol!

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                • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
                  Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                  Yikes!

                  Man, I can't believe what you guys can read the wrong way, lol!

                  How can I mind what I say, or rather, how I say it with you two and Claude always just around the corner?

                  It was called the quickie bar because there was also a very hot dance club bar there too that you had to pay a cover charge to enter, and this one wasn't it, lol!

                  Terra
                  Terra,

                  Hate to tell you, but we have all heard that story before.

                  Can't wait for Dan and Claude to jump back in.

                  Ken

                  P.S. For those that don't know I'm just picking on my favorite person to pick on. LOL
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                • Profile picture of the author Sock Puppet Terra
                  Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                  Yikes!

                  Man, I can't believe what you guys can read the wrong way, lol!

                  How can I mind what I say, or rather, how I say it with you two and Claude always just around the corner?

                  It was called the quickie bar because there was also a very hot dance club bar there too that you had to pay a cover charge to enter, and this one wasn't it, lol!

                  Terra

                  Mmmmhhhhhh. Keep telling yourself that, sister.

                  Mental blocks are a son of
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                  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                    Originally Posted by Sock Puppet Terra View Post

                    Mmmmhhhhhh. Keep tell yourself that, sister.

                    Mental blocks are a son of
                    Sock Puppet Dan,

                    Just because you're getting up there in age and having mental issues doesn't mean we all are.

                    Isn't that right, Ken?

                    Terra
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                      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                      Sock Puppet Dan,

                      Just because you're getting up there in age and having mental issues doesn't mean we all are.

                      Isn't that right, Ken?

                      Terra
                      Hey, don't bring me into this. This is between you and the puppet.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
                      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                      Sock Puppet Dan,

                      Just because you're getting up there in age and having mental issues doesn't mean we all are.

                      Isn't that right, Ken?

                      Terra
                      Mental problems, me. Never!

                      But why the heck are you and I talking to a Sock Puppet.
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                      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                        Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman View Post

                        Mental problems, me. Never!

                        But why the heck are you and I talking to a Sock Puppet.
                        Haha! Good question!

                        We had better stop so "it" looks like the only mental one.

                        Terra
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  • Tipping is all about "where you are from". It's the "customs" of how you feel for the service delivered.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by reputablemarketing View Post

      Tipping is all about "where you are from". It's the "customs" of how you feel for the service delivered.
      The main thing is not to tip the balance of what's acceptable in any given circumstance or setting.
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  • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
    i had sit down fish and chips, total bill, $12

    when i went to pay, i said keep the change

    the young chinese guy on the till, grinned and said 'where do you trhink you are, new york?'

    i took the change and said, 'you went ahead and made my day.'

    he said 'clint eastwood, right?'

    i did try
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    if it's poor service I refuse to tip. Hope they learn.

    if it is really food, i tip well.
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  • Profile picture of the author youroutsourcer
    because it has become a common tradition and a rule of common decency
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    • Profile picture of the author socialentry
      Originally Posted by youroutsourcer View Post

      because it has become a common tradition and a rule of common decency
      Then why don`t you tip when you go to McDonald`s?
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  • Profile picture of the author therealfactoid
    I dunno but I feel as if I've been spoiled, my first job was as a bagger and I worked just for tips, no pay. still we earned about $10 per hour on average. not bad for a high school student. Then I got several delivery jobs where over 50% of my income was tips, and its not chump change. people are mostly kind which is what gives me hope for humanity. I guess that's why I love the delivery industry so much over here and would still drive even if i didn't have to for the scenery and cool people i run into.
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