Have You Had House Guests with Mental Health Problems

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For the past week, I have have had a house guest from the UK with mental health problems. He shared a flat once with me as a medical student at Bristol University ages ago. We made contact again through friends reunited and he told me that he wanted to visit me for a few days followed by a trip to China. I knew that he had some mental health problems but the fact that his visa application was refused by China was indicative of a major illness. It turned out that he had schizophrenia and was on quite a lot of medication. He then asked me whether he could stay for a week instead. I was quite worried about this but I do have a spare appartment available that used to be our office. Since I have an autistic daughter, I am deeply aware of the discrimination and stigma that mental health patients face, I told him to go ahead with the trip.

When I met him, I was in deep shock. He has got very fat and his face bloated probably because of the drugs. He was completely dishevelled and had a deep stench of urine. When I bought him to a Chinese restaurant, he used his hands to grab the food from the plate. Anyway, I took him to our spare appartment. We no longer had hot running water in that appartment so he had to use the facilities in the clubhouse attached to our development. I introduced him to my wife and my Indonesian maid and both were shocked. In fact, whenever my wife or maid went up to his appartment, he would appear in his underpants only in front of them. Understandably, both my wife and maid were very scared. There was a now a big stench in our appartment and anybody who smelt it would feel sick.

The next day as he was recovering from jetlag, I did not do anything with him. I was quite frightended myself although I do have experience in handling mental heatlh patients when I was a student and also in my previous workplace. Anyway, I thought that I should do what I could to make his stay a pleasant one. For the next few days, I took him around Hong Kong in my car. It seems that he is quite normal and coherent in the morning but starts acting funny in the evening as his medication wears off. I could also see a lot of side effects of this drugs such as making sudden jerks or noises. He just couldn't stop talking to me all the time and he really disturbed me driving. Once he told me that he vomited all over one of his friend's car! Anyway, I think we manageed to get through this with flying colours and I saw him off yesterday at the airport.

I think one of reaons why he wanted to visit me was that he was feeling rather lonely and wanted to talk to someone. From what I can gather, it seems that after graduation, he only worked as a doctor for a few years before his license was suspended because of mental illness. He had been in hospital a few times, of which one was after he pulled a knife on a woman. His wife left him after a few years and he has a son who is in university now. Luckily, his father had set up a trust fund for him and that is enough to cover his living expenses.

But his whole story is very sad. He went to Westminister school which is one of the top public schools in the UK before entering Cambridge to study engineering. After one year, he decided to drop out and study medicine at Bristol instead. I think this was the major mistake. There was so much pressure at medical school and I think that is what broke him. I barely made it myself. From what he told me, it seems that a lot of my other classmates are having big problems with health and marriage as well, and at least had died from a car accident.

I am feeling rather sad and depressed about this at the moment. Obviously on the one hand, I am glad that we no longer have to take care of him. It is impossible to say whether he posed any physical risk to my family and my maid but he certainly posed a hygienic risk. I really hope that he will get better with time.

I wonder whether any of you have similar experiences?

Derek
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      When I man I'd gone to school with returned to our small town, my own Mother told him he should contact me. She knew he had mental problems in the past but to her "he seemed fine" - she had no training or knowledge to make that judgment.

      She gave him my phone number, my work hours, my address - and for 2 months he stalked me. The end was a standoff for several hours where he was threatening to kill me and himself. I was able to get my sons out a window as he broke into my house that night - but it was a long night.

      He killed himself a few days later. I had been angry for a month, fearful for the second month - and then suffered from guilt because I was glad he was gone. It wasn't his fault - but that didn't make it easier to deal with.

      While I have a lot of sympathy for those with mental problems - I stay as far away as I can.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I had a childhood friend that went schizo. She was an extremely shy and polite girl. In her teens she suddenly turned obnoxious, and severely paranoid. It was during the Red scare and we would go out walking. She suddenly got the habit of dropping to her knees and praying every time a red car went by because she was sure it was a Russian and they were convening in the US to destroy us - red cars were so they would know each other on sight. The last time I saw her she had come over, invited herself to dinner (something extremely unnatural for her previously) and then decided during dinner that I was trying to destroy her life and got violent. She picked up a quite heavy chair with some ease to swing it at me and my parents tackled her.

    She was never institutionalized but wasn't allowed out much after that. I saw her about 15 years later and she was doing quite well. Her mother told me that it had all been because of a nerve that got pinched when she got braces. I never thought that was the truth. Always wondered what the truth really is.
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  • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
    Derek, I think you were great to do what you did but I wonder about parents and spouses who have to live with mental illness. Also about the poor souls who end up on the street because they are homeless, no one wants them around.

    Their lives must be hell but who can help them? Obviously medications are a hit and miss affair and from what I understand can often trigger extreme behavior and even murder.

    God bless

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    You are right about that, Norma. It's not uncommon any more to hear of one family member going bonkers and killing another family member -or even the whole family.
    The mind is a funny thing. You never know when someone's will break or what will break it. We walk around watchful of or afraid of those we know are insane, yet it is often the person that we think of as happy and adjusted that goes Rambo on everyone.
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    • Profile picture of the author Norma Holt
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      You are right about that, Norma. It's not uncommon any more to hear of one family member going bonkers and killing another family member -or even the whole family.
      The mind is a funny thing. You never know when someone's will break or what will break it. We walk around watchful of or afraid of those we know are insane, yet it is often the person that we think of as happy and adjusted that goes Rambo on everyone.
      I think a lot of the violent games, movies and television that kids are subjected to from a young age is responsible for a lot of mental illness. This mind bending attitude that heroes kill and to be someone you have to imitate some character on the screen is hideous. Its reflected in the mass murder at the hand of school kids and young adults that is going on worldwide. Its teaching our kids to be terrorists and they grow up without the right values.

      What goes in by the age of seven stays. How many young kids do you see at adult only movies? Again its money that speaks louder than common sense and the thrill of seeing violence and explicit sex on the screen often shocks weak willed parents into forgetting their responsibility to the young lives they are nurturing.

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    I don't like the stigma of "mentally ill". That makes a lot of ppl who need help not go to counseling or a psychiatrist cause they are terrified of that stigma and of what ppl will think. "Oh no, I don't care what happened, I'll never get help cause I don't want ppl to think I'm crazy." There are many mental illness and I believe everyone has something whether they know it or not lol Even the most "normal" ppl could probably walk into a shrinks office and get diagnosed with something.

    Just cause someone is "mentally ill" does not mean they will go off and kill ppl, don't shower or hear voices or sit in a corner and drool and talk to invisible ppl.

    Schizophrenia is the most severe mental illness and I'm not even sure they can lead normal lives even with medications. Maybe some can lead semi-normal lives but never completely normal, the disease is so severe. The medications tend to sedate them, make them gain weight, but it can't cure everything and in some cases it agitates them worse and makes them even more hostile, aggressive or paranoid.

    I would stay away from ppl with schizophrenia and certainly wouldn't invite them to my home. Not that I don't have sympathy, I do have sympathy for them, but I'd prefer to keep it at a distance. Schizophrenics are unpredictable and are most likely to go bonkers over anything.

    But I don't like how some ppl combine all mental illness with being psychotic or schizophrenic.

    I've never had house guests with mental illness unless you count my cat. She's crazy and makes me mad scratching my head like a scratching post while I'm sleeping.
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    Tina, I also suspect that he is taking more medication then he needs and he is not being properly followed up. He is only seen by a psychiatrist every 6 months and is visited by a community psychiatric nurse every 3 weeks. He lives alone and so there is no family member who could monitor him. But this is the system they have got in the UK and I don't think he or anybody else can do much about that. Given his history of violent threats, I think any psychiatrist would be very reluctant to reduce his medication aggressively.

    I agree it is extremely difficult to deal with people with schizoprenia, especially those with paranoia. Any thing you say could be taken out of context as a threat or insult. Also many schizophrenics suffer from depression as they recover from the disease and therefore again you have to be very careful in what you say. What I did during his stay was to entertain him by myself and keep my family out of it altogether.

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  • Profile picture of the author John M Kane
    Another story to prompt us to eat right, filter the water.
    From my research essential fatty acids are most important.
    Not that this couldn't be hereditary or even catching.
    I worked in a hospital and dealt with Alz patients almost daily.Very sad situations.

    There were a few people in my life circle that had alzheimers and it can be dreadful.
    Painful to watch.
    Promise to just give me the "pillow" treatment if I ever get it.
    Yeah Yeah I know, some of you just said ? "IF"
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