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This One Is For Seasoned...

by MissTerraK
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Hey Steve,

It's not a well kept secret that I'm technologically challenged, lol, so I was wondering if you had seen this yet, and what your thoughts on it are?

Thanks!

The Government's Quantum Internet

Terra
#quantum internet
  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Well, first of all, what Hughes says about long delays in ordering being due to encryption is utter BULL!!!!!!!! As many here know, I have worked on such systems. I have worked with SSL AND clear text. The MAIN work, it seems to be referring to, is done when you FIRST make the SSL connection. The longest part of that is likely to be the sending of the key information. That info, unfortunately, HAS to be a lot longer than the original info. It mixes up the information, scrambles it, and adds more, to make deciphering it a chore. It takes maybe a second or so. The OTHER part, sending encrypted data, happens with EVERYTHING on the connection. Try setting up google as HTTPS, and see how it slows down the connection. The difference is NEGLIGIBLE! Delays are due to anything BUT! Considering what systems, like amazons, do today, be thankful they are so fast!

    As for the "computer so much as glancing, it changes" claim? THAT is bunk ALSO! Routers are effectively COMPUTERS! They analyze packets, find the IP/PORT info, and forward it along. And when I say "effectively"? Many, if not all, have CPUs, some even run LINUX! And some computers are used as routers. HECK, EVERY router I have used(Dlink, Linksys, and Cisco) has had a built in WEB SERVER! The BUILT IN website allows you to set criteria for the router. Trying to work around this behavior just isn't possible without changing everything. You can't even have a builtin timeout. As everyone here should know, the message can get to you instantaneously, or take a minute!

    As for the cards they speak of? There are a TON of similar things. Want to see perhaps the most popular? SecurID - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It basically creates a multifactor multiparty encrypted vpn connection between the user and server. The token has a password, so without that password, it is WORTHLESS! The token changes every minute, so copying the value is next to worthless. The server requires that password+token as well as the other authentication, so without the token information the current login is worthless. RSA controls only one part, so a breakdown there is next to worthless. The server admins control only one part, so a breakdown THERE is next to worthless. The tokens are all unique, and apparently keyed to the servers company, so you can't use another.

    BTW I do NOT trust the government. At this point, I NEVER will. So you should take all they say with a lake of salt!

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Thanks Steve!

      I knew I could count on you.

      You want to know the scariest part of your post, to me?

      Not this:
      I do NOT trust the government. At this point, I NEVER will. So you should take all they say with a lake of salt!
      But that I actually understood a lot of what you said, not all of it, but quite a bit of it. You know, with me being a techytard and all.

      Terra
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        Thanks Steve!

        I knew I could count on you.

        You want to know the scariest part of your post, to me?

        Not this: But that I actually understood a lot of what you said, not all of it, but quite a bit of it. You know, with me being a techytard and all.

        Terra
        Want to hear a secret? Most people that claim they are "techy tards" really are able to understand the stuff. They just don't want to delve into the technology. I one time sold components to people, and they didn't even know what ram or hard disk drives were, or the difference between them. NOW, they often do.

        Steve
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          Want to hear a secret? Most people that claim they are "techy tards" really are able to understand the stuff. They just don't want to delve into the technology. I one time sold components to people, and they didn't even know what ram or hard disk drives were, or the difference between them. NOW, they often do.

          Steve
          Haha!

          Well, I at least know that much and have for years.

          I don't know Steve, I've always been more of a words kind of girl than a numbers and symbols one and it cracks me up that the technical aspect and/or programming aspect of computers is called a "language".

          It seems to me it should be called an equation or chemistry or something like that what with all of the numbers and symbols involved, lol!

          Terra
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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          Want to hear a secret? Most people that claim they are "techy tards" really are able to understand the stuff. They just don't want to delve into the technology. I one time sold components to people, and they didn't even know what ram or hard disk drives were, or the difference between them. NOW, they often do.

          Steve
          I soooo agree with this. I claim techno-idiocy all the time. It's not that I don't have the ability to learn it -- I have no will to do so and don't want to spend time on it. If it came down to "have to", I would, but until I absolutely HAVE to - there's guys like you to rely on.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Terra,

    I was talking about the early 80s. Most that would say they are "techy tards" now would NOT have known half of what they do now THEN. Of course, I am talking about people that are maybe 45yo on up.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Steve - when I went to college - 80 - 84 - they advised me not to take any computer classes because that was just for secretaries. Serious.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Steve - when I went to college - 80 - 84 - they advised me not to take any computer classes because that was just for secretaries. Serious.
      Secretaries I've known pretty much ran the businesses they worked in.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Steve - when I went to college - 80 - 84 - they advised me not to take any computer classes because that was just for secretaries. Serious.
      Yeah, I KNOW! I have looked at some college descriptions, etc... for computer courses in that time. They weren't kidding you. My father learned about Computers from IBM! You will find that most at that time learned from the corporations, or manufacturers, and NOT from college.

      Steve
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