Did Nostradamus Predict The Rise and Fall of Communism in Russia?

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After this the sterile Dame, of greater power than the second (the third Reich?), shall be received by two nations, by the first made obstinate by him who had power over all, by the second, and third, that shall extend his forces towards; the circuit of the east of Europe; [arrived] there his standards will stop and succumb, but by sea he will run on to Trinacria and the Adriatic with his mirmidons.

The Germans will succumb wholly and the Barbaric sect will be disquieted and driven back by the whole of the Latin race.

Then shall begin the grand Empire of Antichrist in the Atila and Xerxes, [who is] to descend with innumerable multitudes, so that the coming of the Holy Spirit, issuing from the 48th degree, shall make a transmigration, chasing away the abomination of Antichrist, that made war upon the royal person of the great vicar of Jesus Christ, and against His Church, and reign per tempus, et in occasione temporis [for a time, and to the end of time].

This will be preceded by an eclipse of the sun, more obscure and tenebrose than has ever been since the creation of the world, up to the death and passion of Jesus Christ, and from thence till now. There will be in the month of October a grand revolution made, such that one would think that the librating body of the earth had lost its natural movement in the abyss of perpetual darkness.

There will be seen precursive signs in the spring-time, and after extreme changes ensuing, reversal of kingdoms, and great earthquakes. All this accompanied with the procreations of the New Babylon , a miserable prostitute big with the abomination of the first holocaust . It will only continue for seventy-three years seven months. 1917-1991.

The countries, towns, cities, and provinces that had forsaken their old customs to free themselves, enthralling themselves more deeply, shall become secretly weary of their liberty, and, true religion lost, shall commence by striking off to the left, to return more than ever to the right.(I think this applies more to communist Germany than Russia)

Oracles of Nostradamus: Epistle to Henry II

End of communism: 18th of August 1991

See also: When did Boris Yeltzin become president of Russia?
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  • Profile picture of the author myob
    It takes considerable literary contortions to force fit the "predictions" of Nostradamus into modern events. Communism is still very much alive and well in Russia and in its deliberately hegemonic foreign policy. Putin's doctrine for the post-Soviet era reflects his ambitions for Russian expansion, particularly in the Middle East and Pacific rim regions. His kinder and gentler "soft power" (Moscow style) is rooted in the Soviet and czarist past and his own background as a former KGB agent (and later head of the FSB) turned cunning politician.

    Recent events in Syria have revealed Putins's true intentions by affirming strong warnings to other countries not to interfere with the "internal affairs" of sovereign regimes. By wielding his veto power in the UN security council as a formidable weapon of war, and fortifying Syria with massive munitions, Putin has demonstrated his own expansionist intentions. And his own brutality, for example in crushing the Chechen rebels, pales in comparison to Assad. No matter how one may twist the quatrains of Nostradamus around, I have never seen any reference to real historical predictions without injecting vivid imagination.
    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by myob View Post

      Communism is still very much alive and well in Russia and in its deliberately hegemonic foreign policy. Putin's doctrine for the post-Soviet era reflects his ambitions for Russian expansion, particularly in the Middle East and Pacific rim regions. His kinder and gentler "soft power" (Moscow style) is rooted in the Soviet and czarist past and his own background as a former KGB agent (and later head of the FSB) turned cunning politician.

      Recent events in Syria have revealed Putins's true intentions by affirming strong warnings to other countries not to interfere with the "internal affairs" of sovereign regimes. By wielding his veto power in the UN security council as a formidable weapon of war, and fortifying Syria with massive munitions, Putin has demonstrated his own expansionist intentions. And his own brutality, for example in crushing the Chechen rebels, pales in comparison to Assad. .
      I was going to say much the same, but so many have said communism is dead in russia, and the cold war is over.

      Of course, the cold war is NOT over. If it were, countries would be at and remain at parity or reduce. They wouldn't build up like north korea, china, and YEAH, RUSSIA! And russia is Still similar to how it was.

      Steve
    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Originally Posted by myob View Post

      No matter how one may twist the quatrains of Nostradamus around, I have never seen any reference to real historical predictions without injecting vivid imagination.
      This isn't a quatrain, it's a letter to HenryII. I get your point, though.

      However, his quatrains regarding Nazi Germany and Napoleon are pretty much bang on. For me anyway.
  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    descend with innumerable multitudes
    Sounds to me like he was "predicting" the war of the worlds. Either that or Santa and his elves are getting hot under the collar about something.

    But then I'm still waiting on the coffee to perk, so will have to read it again later.
  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    Wasn't he the same guy who predicted the world was gonna end in 2012?
    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

      Wasn't he the same guy who predicted the world was gonna end in 2012?
      No, those were opportunists trying to make bank by misinterpreting the Mayan calender.
    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

      Wasn't he the same guy who predicted the world was gonna end in 2012?
      One of my favorites for many years (used by hucksters to profit from the end of the world mania in 1999) is that Nostradamus "predicted" a great comet, Nibiru, rogue planet, Planet X, etc would hit the earth:

      "The year 1999, seventh month,
      From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
      To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
      Before and after Mars to reign by good luck."

      I still have no idea how anyone but the most imaginative could have arrived at such an interpretation. But when nothing happened on that date, inventive marketers then said the calendar was in error, since it was changed from Julian to Gregorian in the year 1582.

      The far more "accurate" astronomical Mayan calendar ended on December 21, 2012. People really were led to believe that the end of the world prediction by Nostradamus coincided with the end of the Mayan calendar.
  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    A new law will emerge in the new world of America,
    At a time when Syria, Judeau and Palestine are significant:
    The great barbarian empire of patriarchy that men have created will decay
    During the time that the feminine spirit is completing its cycle."


    I doubt the authenticity of this quatrain. I can not remember Nostradamus ever mentioning "America" directly. He used the "new world" or "etas unis". I can't remember him ever mentioning Palestine, either. I could be wrong, but I doubt it's an authentic Nostradamus quatrain.

    This quatrain has also been slightly twisted:

    Nouuelle loy terre neufue occuper,
    Vers la Syrie Iudee,& Palestine:
    Le grand empire barbare corruer,
    Auant que Phebés son siecle determine.


    New law to occupy the new land
    Towards Syria, Judea and Palestine.
    The great barbarian empire to decay
    Before Phebes completes its cycle.


    adishakti.org's translation:

    "New law to occupy the new land
    Towards Syria, Judeau and Palestine:
    The great barbarian empire of men decay,
    Before the moon completes its cycle.


    It takes on an entirely different meaning.
    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

      A new law will emerge in the new world of America,
      At a time when Syria, Judeau and Palestine are significant:
      The great barbarian empire of patriarchy that men have created will decay
      During the time that the feminine spirit is completing its cycle."


      I doubt the authenticity of this quatrain. I can not remember Nostradamus ever mentioning "America" directly. He used the "new world" or "etas unis". I can't remember him ever mentioning Palestine, either. I could be wrong, but I doubt it's an authentic Nostradamus quatrain.

      This quatrain has also been slightly twisted:

      Nouuelle loy terre neufue occuper,
      Vers la Syrie Iudee,& Palestine:
      Le grand empire barbare corruer,
      Auant que Phebés son siecle determine.


      New law to occupy the new land
      Towards Syria, Judea and Palestine.
      The great barbarian empire to decay
      Before Phebes completes its cycle.


      adishakti.org's translation:

      "New law to occupy the new land
      Towards Syria, Judeau and Palestine:
      The great barbarian empire of men decay,
      Before the moon completes its cycle.


      It takes on an entirely different meaning.
      All I can tell you was the book was a gift, I read it, and then put it away.

      I really don't follow Nostradamus or try to interpret his writings.

      Terra
  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    Claude, don't you realize that this entire forum is simply a figment of my imagination? Every single person here is just a different portion of my subconscious trying to get out. In fact, you're only here because I once ate a bad burrito.
    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

      Claude, don't you realize that this entire forum is simply a figment of my imagination? Every single person here is just a different portion of my subconscious trying to get out. In fact, you're only here because I once ate a bad burrito.
      Was it a bald, huge, pompous, self-important burrito? I would like to think that it took a giant burrito to make me. Because I'm Special.

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