12 Things Successful Women Do Differently

11 years ago

As you said, I don't see why this doesn't apply to men. A lot of successful men get married, though, but then have sex with other women, too. I wouldn't call it cheating, but I also don't want to open a can of warms around here ...

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Lucian Lada

As you said, I don't see why this doesn't apply to men. A lot of successful men get married, though, but then have sex with other women, too. I wouldn't call it cheating, but I also don't want to open a can of warms around here ...

If the wife doesn't know and approve, I don't know what else you would call it...........
other than unnecessary emotional drama that has to be cut out of your life.

I have been with men who like to shatter their partner's focus through emotional drama of one sort or the other.
They are gone. Period.

I'm sure that runs the other direction as well. The point is - if you're going to be successful, you need a partner that is drama free.

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Lucian Lada 11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

I'm sure that runs the other direction as well.

I'm not so sure it does, or at least, not to the same extent. Women are wired differently than men.
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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Lucian Lada

As you said, I don't see why this doesn't apply to men. A lot of successful men get married, though, but then have sex with other women, too. I wouldn't call it cheating, but I also don't want to open a can of warms around here ...

I agree with you 100%. Sex with other women is not cheating. I think it's high time we men all get together and let women know that we run this country, and that sex outside of marriage is not "cheating".

Are you with me Guys? ...Guys? guys? anyone?

no?

Coward! , I'll have you know that I rule the roost in my home! Nobody tells me...what....Oh, Hi Honey.....what am I talking about? Oh, nothing...just saying "Hi" to my friends online.....what? No...No...none of them are women...Yes...you are the only one for me....

(5 minutes later)

Ha! Now she's gone! I'm BACK! As I was saying...We men need to show everyone that we make the rules... That's right, M-E-N!

Ha!

Claude "President- He Man Woman Haters Club" Whitacre

(anyone get the reference?)

I'm sorry, having sex with other women is not cheating? What planet are you on?:rolleyes:

I will say this, most men I know that are very successful, think about sex a lot.
The ones that cheat, are at least quiet about it. But most have a very stable marriage.

I think the list given by the OP would mostly apply to men as well, but men would use different language.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I agree with you 100%. Sex with other women is not cheating. I think it's high time we men all get together and let women know that we run this country, and that sex outside of marriage is not "cheating".

Are you with me Guys? ...Guys? guys? anyone?

no?

Coward! , I'll have you know that I rule the roost in my home! Nobody tells me...what....Oh, Hi Honey.....what am I talking about? Oh, nothing...just saying "Hi" to my friends online.....what? No...No...none of them are women...Yes...you are the only one for me....

(5 minutes later)

Ha! Now she's gone! I'm BACK! As I was saying...We men need to show everyone that we make the rules... That's right, M-E-N!

Ha!

Claude "President- He Man Woman Haters Club" Whitacre

(anyone get the reference?)

I'm sorry, having sex with other women is not cheating? What planet are you on?:rolleyes:

I will say this, most men I know that are very successful, think about sex a lot.
The ones that cheat, are at least quiet about it. But most have a very stable marriage.

I think the list given by the OP would mostly apply to men as well, but men would use different language.

LOL. Oh, man, another screenwriter? Terra, you have competition. (Or, maybe you should join forces on that project).

(Just kidding. I know neither of you are screenwriters. "Screenwriter" is just a funny word, so I had to use it. )

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Kay King

11 years ago

Right - women don't care...they are wired differently....it's perfectly understandable if a man cheats a bit on the side...because it doesn't "mean anything". It's to be expected...right? Sure...

Then the man learns his wife is having an affair....and he goes haywire. How DARE she make a fool of him - how CAN she go to another man when she has him at home. What is WRONG with her! She's a MARRIED woman!

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11 years ago

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Originally Posted by Kay King

Right - women don't care...they are wired differently....it's perfectly understandable if a man cheats a bit on the side...because it doesn't "mean anything". It's to be expected...right? Sure...

Then the man learns his wife is having an affair....and he goes haywire. How DARE she make a fool of him - how CAN she go to another man when she has him at home. What is WRONG with her! She's a MARRIED woman!

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Claude Whitacre 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

pffffft

Kay, I call your pffffft, and raise you a Ptttt teh ppphfft.
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Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I'm sorry, having sex with other women is not cheating? What planet are you on?:rolleyes:

I will say this, most men I know that are very successful, think about sex a lot.
The ones that cheat, are at least quiet about it. But most have a very stable marriage.

... or they have an unbreakable prenup

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MissTerraK

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Lucian Lada

As you said, I don't see why this doesn't apply to men. A lot of successful men get married, though, but then have sex with other women, too. I wouldn't call it cheating,

Really? Just out of curiosity, what the heck would you call it?

Originally Posted by Lucian Lada

but I also don't want to open a can of warms around here ...

I don't think you have to worry about a can of warms, I don't think you're going to be feeling the warm fuzzy feelings of love from any women after saying that.

But if you meant a can of worms, don't worry about that either because you just did. Too late! :p

Terra

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Mobley

I think most of these (this) applies to men and women.

An interesting post.

12 Things Successful Women Do Differently

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YEAH, these can ALSO be said of MEN! It was written by a WOMAN and she was probably a feminist and sexist, and wrote this only for women.

But this has NOTHING to do with either sex, it is just GOOD ADVICE!

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thunderbird

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Mobley

I think most of these (this) applies to men and women.

An interesting post.

12 Things Successful Women Do Differently

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Good list. Like you said, there doesn't seem to be anything particularly female or feminine about that list, lol.

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SShip

11 years ago

I have to agree that these definitely apply to men as well.

@ Claude - Ha-ha, great post! I smiled all the way through.

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joseph7384

11 years ago

Men are wired differently but there are things that you can do to keep your marriage happy and healthy.

Myself and my ex used to cheat on each other with each other by role playing.

Teacher punishes bad student.
Prison guard and inmate
Doctor & patient

It adds mystery and it will keep you guys faithful to your spouse.

Claude, does this answer your question?

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MissTerraK

11 years ago

With all due respect, Joseph.

You start out by saying my "ex" and then you say it will keep you faithful. There seems to be a disconnect in there somewhere.

Anyway, to each his own I guess.

Terra

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joseph7384

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

With all due respect, Joseph.

You start out by saying my "ex" and then you say it will keep you faithful. There seems to be a disconnect in there somewhere.

Anyway, to each his own I guess.

Terra

Well it did keep me from cheating but no so for the cheating gold digger of an ex I had.

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MissTerraK 11 years ago

Originally Posted by joseph7384

Well it did keep me from cheating but no so for the cheating gold digger of an ex I had.

Ouch!

I'm sorry you had to go through that, Joseph.

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  Originally Posted by MissTerraK
  
  Ouch!
  
  I'm sorry you had to go through that, Joseph.
  
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  Thank you but I am over it since it has been 14 years.
  
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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by joseph7384

Men are wired differently but there are things that you can do to keep your marriage happy and healthy.

Myself and my ex used to cheat on each other with each other by role playing.

Teacher punishes bad student.
Prison guard and inmate
Doctor & patient

Joseph; My wife and I role play to...just to keep it fresh;

Some nights she pretends to have a headache, some nights it's me.

Some nights I imagine she's another woman...but it's never a woman that wants to have sex with me.

She imagines I'm a tall dark stranger, that won't wake her up when he crawls into bed.

A few times I had her dress up like Angelina Jolie. I then found out that Angelina Jolie doesn't want sex with me either.

One night my wife said "Let's imagine that you are Rock Hudson". I got all excited, and crawled into bed. She put up her hand and said "Hold it right there. Rock Hudson was gay". Sniff...sniff....

One night I told my wife that I imagined that she was Marilyn Monroe. She said "Marilyn Monroe is dead, and would just lay here." I told her that I wouldn't have to use my imagination then.

Some nights I play a middle aged business owner with ED, and she plays a tired woman who doesn't want sex.

And to really spice things up, We play "Lifeguard". we bought a water bed just for the occasion......it was exciting at first...but then we drifted apart.:rolleyes:

TA DA!

All of those things are lies. but I sure had fun thinking them up.

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Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Joseph; My wife and I role play to...just to keep it fresh;

Some nights she pretends to have a headache, some nights it's me.<snip>

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11 years ago

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Lucian Lada

11 years ago

I was expecting you people to differentiate between sex and affection.

But instead I was called ... what? a woman hater? :confused:

(Ohh, I can already see the replies pouring in: "If you love her, then you'll control your urges!" or "No! no! no! sex is a sacred thing between a man and her woman." and other fairy tales that ignore reality.)

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Lucian Lada

I was expecting you people to differentiate between sex and affection.

But instead I was called ... what? a woman hater? :confused:

(Ohh, I can already see the replies pouring in: "If you love her, then you'll control your urges!" or "No! no! no! sex is a sacred thing between a man and her woman." and other fairy tales that ignore reality.)

Didn't call you a woman hater - I just explained that "cheating" is exactly what it's called when you go with another woman behind your wife's back.

If you have an open marriage, or live where marriage vows aren't exclusive and your wife has no misconception that you "drift" sometimes, then there's nothing wrong with it. It's when the man (or woman) engenders a misconception of exclusivity with their spouse that it's called "cheating".

I never really got into role playing. I much preferred to go somewhere new - a nice mountaintop, a lake.....................I was always taking my ex somewhere new. It didn't do much to solve our problem, though. He kept finding his way back.

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Lucian Lada

11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Didn't call you a woman hater

Sorry, I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to Claude, but then I saw that he didn't do it, too. I just began reading his post, saw his silly ... whatever that was, and skimmed down to the bottom, and in the way I saw the word "hater" and wrongly assumed he was referring to me.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Lucian Lada

Sorry, I wasn't referring to you. I was referring to Claude, but then I saw that he didn't do it, too. I just began reading his post, saw his silly ... whatever that was, and skimmed down to the bottom, and in the way I saw the word "hater" and wrongly assumed he was referring to me.

Lucian; Maybe your culture is different.

But in the USA, it is cheating if you have sex with another person outside of marriage. Whether you love them or not is immaterial.

It is unrealistic. Men have a strong urge to mate with the largest number of women they can. Women have the urge to mate with the best man they can.

So what happens? Half the husband have cheated on their wives at least once. Half have admitted it, anyway.

Between a third and half (depending on the survey) of married women have cheated on their husband at least once.

I've only met a few men that don't admit that they seriously think about sex with other women. But half don't cheat. Some of it is lack of opportunity.

And if you don't cheat on your spouse, because you never get an offer, it isn't a virtue. That's sort of a joke.

I've met people who have sex outside of their marriage, with permission...and they are well adjusted, decent people (at least the ones I know)

I think it would hurt me more if my wife said she loved someone else, than if she just admitted that she had a fling in Las Vegas.

But I know neither one of us would forgive the other one if we strayed. And it's never come up, except as a joke.

Living with someone you love, that doesn't love you...that must be a certain kind of Hell.

None of this was directed at you.

It's cultural. Objectively, there is no reason to only have sex with one person.

I don't stray because I don't want to. But if I did, I probably would.

Originally Posted by Lucian Lada

(Ohh, I can already see the replies pouring in: "If you love her, then you'll control your urges!" or "No! no! no! sex is a sacred thing between a man and her woman." and other fairy tales that ignore reality.)

I never thought of marriage as sacred. I'm not religious. But I think if you love a woman deeply, the urge to stray simply isn't there. The urge for sex? Absolutely. But not with someone else. At least that's my experience. And it would hurt my wife. And that's something I could never do.

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Objectively, there is no reason to only have sex with one person.

???

STDs.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

???

STDs.

It's a medical fact that if you close your eyes, the STD's won't know you are there...and you're safe.

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

It's a medical fact that if you close your eyes, the STD's won't know you are there...and you're safe.

We must run with different women. I'd never close my eyes. I want to know where her fingers are at all times.

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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

We must run with different women. I'd never close my eyes. I want to know where her fingers are at all times.

Dan; That wasn't her finger. You were with a man. Maybe it would have been better if you had closed your eyes.

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Dan; That wasn't her finger. You were with a man. Maybe it would have been better if you had closed your eyes.

Then it wasn't much of a man either. I didn't know you were in town.

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joseph7384 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

???

STDs.

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

It's a medical fact that if you close your eyes, the STD's won't know you are there...and you're safe.

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

We must run with different women. I'd never close my eyes. I want to know where her fingers are at all times.

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Dan; That wasn't her finger. You were with a man. Maybe it would have been better if you had closed your eyes.

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Then it wasn't much of a man either. I didn't know you were in town.

You two guys really crack me up, that was truly entertaining and you both should do pod casts with this sort of material, you'd probably go viral and make a killing.
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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Then it wasn't much of a man either. I didn't know you were in town.

I was in town, reporting on a transvestite prostitution ring. I was outside with the other witnesses. I tried to avert my eyes when the police were taking you and "Thumper" into custody. I didn't know you saw me.

Enjoy your night at Bambi's Budget Massage And Happy Endings Emporium?

Remember, What happens at Bambi's Budget Massage And Happy Endings Emporium, usually ends up on the 11 o'clock news.

If Thumper calls you, you don't know me. :rolleyes:

Ha! "Rimshot" (Which is now only $100 at Bambi's Budget Massage And Happy Endings Emporium)

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You two guys really crack me up, that was truly entertaining and you both should do pod casts with this sort of material, you'd probably go viral and make a killing.

Thanks. I've met Dan. A smart young man with a wry sense of humor.

I think humor is the highest form of thinking. Comedy is the most difficult type of acting. And Dan is one of several here that have the gift.

To be honest there are more funny ladies here than men, I think. I don't know if it's the same in the world at large. Probably.

Banter is like juggling. If you miss cue, it's like a juggler dropping his balls on the floor....

wait for it...wait for it.....:rolleyes:

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Joe Mobley 11 years ago

I got'ta admit that it's kind of frustrating to watch threads deteriorate like this one has...

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  I got'ta admit that it's kind of frustrating to watch threads deteriorate like this one has...
  
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  No heat to take Dan. I do enjoy the friendly banter here in the OT. I also look forward to and learn from the sharper minds here.
  
  I would like to have seen some ideas about success traits that other may have observed in both men and women. I know that there is some measure of success from the guys and girls here.
  
  Oh well... that's just me.
  
  You just keep being Dan... Claude needs it. :rolleyes:
  
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MissTerraK

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Lucian Lada

I was expecting you people to differentiate between sex and affection.

See, there's the problem. There is no difference between them with me. If there is no affection, there is no sex. Plain and simple.

Don't believe me? Ask hubby, he'll tell ya!

Originally Posted by HeySal

I never really got into role playing. I much preferred to go somewhere new - a nice mountaintop, a lake.....................I was always taking my ex somewhere new. It didn't do much to solve our problem, though. He kept finding his way back.

LOL Sally!

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11 years ago

It is harder for women to be success.

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bizteam 11 years ago

Most of my life, I have been fascinated by women who are consistently successful in their careers and personal lives, particularly those where it seems to be a repeated pattern. I think often of Oprah Winfrey - she wasn't born to success, but rather acted in a way that helped her realize her full potential in life. So how do highly successful women achieve such excellence in their lives?

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bizgrower

11 years ago

I think these success traits apply to both men and women.

I think I would add that successful people have respect for the value of time and manage time well. And they plan much better than unsuccessful people. I manage employees who - sadly - will never get away from minimum pay jobs. One commonality is how much time they waste talking to me about the details of their daily lives without awareness of if it might be a good time for me to talk or not. (I don't mind listening and helping as much as I can and I do politely steer them to a better time, or I'll get with you later...) I also notice how much time they waste solving problems with such things as cable TV and smartphones and rent or mortgages.

Also, successful people think much better and more logically than unsuccessful people. Linear and cause and effect thinking as well as just daily and weekly planning. Not so many I forgot I needed to do this errand or take this test today... I'd like to see successful thinking courses added to school curricula. I think success traits can be learned.

In addition to better thinking and planning, I'd say that successful people are better at delayed gratification and understanding the difference between a right or a privilege, a need and want. For example, if a successful person can't afford a smart phone, cable TV, pets, or a big car payment (or a gas guzzling truck) right now, they will live without. Unsuccessful people tend to go ahead and by stuff they can't afford and speculate that somehow they'll get a raise or more money via a vague "somehow". Again a thought process and emotional control that could be learned.

There's my .02.

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

I'll take my dancing monkey hat off for a minute and throw my two cents in the ring. (I think Claude is in his office staring at light bulb or something, so he won't mind.)

I think success is simple. Defining success is the difficult part as it is a very personal definition. People waste their lives whiling away, marching toward some outward definition of success, be it their parents', teachers' or society's definition, all the while being uncomfortable in their own skin.

Taking time to understand what you would consider a successful life for you can move barriers, unlock closed doors and relieve the sickly feeling of being uncomfortable with your lot in life.

Success isn't attached to a dollar sign, at least not for most. So, without turning this into a well-waxed diatribe, I guess I believe that success ultimately comes from self-awareness and the courage to go your own way. Only then can you apply skills and education to live a truly fulfilling, personally successful life.

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11 years ago

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How much does the rebranding affect CR ?