What are your thoughts about Palin's daughter being pregnant?

16 years ago

Originally Posted by jaggyjay

Hey all,

The news about Gov. Sarah Palin's 17-year-old pregnant and unwed daughter is making rounds. Governor Palin is McCain's pick for the VP.

Do any of you think this will have an effect on McCain's campaign for the Presidency? Considering that McCain (or the GOP) emphasizes family values, do you think this situation will have negative consequences?

What are your thoughts?

Why are you asking me? I was nowhere near her.

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ecoverartist

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

Why are you asking me? I was nowhere near her.

LOL!

Last I heard she was going to keep the baby/marry the father so I don't think it will hurt McCain too much. That, plus he knew about it when he picked Palin to be his VP. It's not really an issue for him anyway...unless he's the father..

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HeySal

16 years ago

So politicians kids are making the same mistakes as everyone elses? Shock.
Non-issue here, too. Can't see anyone having an issue with this...if she were going to
abort the whole nation would be at war over it.

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Patrician

16 years ago

This is the same BS that keeps the nation in rapture about a non-issue and keeps it from addressing actually important issues.

What in the world difference would it make to her ability to do the job if her daughter is pregnant, unwed or not?

Just one more reason I hate the whole BS political environment.

I think Obama showed real class when he announced in response to this stupid issue that 'families are off-limits'.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Patrician

This is the same BS that keeps the nation in rapture about a non-issue and keeps it from addressing actually important issues.

What in the world difference would it make to her ability to do the job if her daughter is pregnant, unwed or not?

Just one more reason I hate the whole BS political environment.

I think Obama showed real class when he announced in response to this stupid issue that 'families are off-limits'.

Exactly right! It's almost impossible to take these dog and pony shows seriously.

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Jelasco

16 years ago

It's disgusting that this story is even in the news. It's a private family matter, and the person in question is not the candidate!

I don't see the media making an issue of Obama's cocaine use, and that is the candidate himself, not a candidate's child.

Oh, and people outside the US who aren't US citizens, please butt out of our election.

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John Rowe

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jelasco

Oh, and people outside the US who aren't US citizens, please butt out of our election.

I'm a U.S. Citizen, and you're comment embarrasses me.

I think that kind of talk would be better kept inside your trailer.
And, how clueless does a person have to be to think that the
U.S. President has no effect on the World outside the States.

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Michael Ellis

16 years ago

I couldn't care less if she weds the father or not...

Go to anystreet USA (your street) and see how many good single parents will you find - a lot!

It's always been funny to me how people view unmarried parents negatively, yet the divorce rate is approaching 60% in the US.

Think about it... if a marketing technique failed more than it was successful, who would be viewed as the smarter folks - the ones that try it, or the ones that pass it up?

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GarrieWilson

16 years ago

Familes arent off limits and Palins daughter could be an issue depending on their platform.

If she/they preach about morals, family values, etc then it IS an issued.

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yuri12 16 years ago

Obama certainly took the higher ground when he commented that personal issues are irrelevant to running for a position in government. But I find it ironic that Republicans even their official mouthpiece in the media, Fox News are always using such tactics using personal issues to pull down a democrat. I think they are heaving a sigh of relief when Obama commented about Palin's daughter and I do think they will think twice about attacking Obama's character. And I do think they will revive this issue once the presidential debates are starting. I agree with GarrieWilson, the issue might be used against Palin.
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Michael Ellis

16 years ago

Originally Posted by GarrieWilson

Familes arent off limits and Palins daughter could be an issue depending on their platform.

If she/they preach about morals, family values, etc then it IS an issued.

C'mon... Sure it might be an issue to some, but these are usually the same people that told us to butt-out of Slick Willie's (Bill Clinton) affair with Lewinski.

Funny how things change depending on which side of the isle you stand on.

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- yuri12 16 years ago
  
  On the lighter side of things, I believe that Palin will win as Vice-President and Obama will win it over McCain. I believe that is the balance that America will achieve after the elections. And as for Bill Clinton, well he got what he deserved. An impeachment case and he had to pay the price for perjury. And Hillary got the sympathy that she deserved when Bill apologized on live television. As for Dick Cheney, well he's another story we would like to forget. But his story was really funny when they ran a report on the Daily Show.
  
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logocheckout

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jelasco

It's disgusting that this story is even in the news. It's a private family matter, and the person in question is not the candidate!

I don't see the media making an issue of Obama's cocaine use, and that is the candidate himself, not a candidate's child.

Oh, and people outside the US who aren't US citizens, please butt out of our election.

Palin admits to pot and cocaine use too.

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Angela V. Edwards 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Patrician

I think Obama showed real class when he announced in response to this stupid issue that 'families are off-limits'.

I agree; that was real class. Obama has daughters, too. Sure, they're young now, but it will seem like no time at all and they'll be teenagers. I'm sure he can empathise to some degree over how this private family situation can affect everyone involved.
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MikeAmbrosio 16 years ago

No issue here either.

There was a point in time not too long ago that pregnant at 17 was more common than it is today. My mother was only 18 when my sister was born.

But, like always, you can bet the media/political pundits will make WAY more about this and beat it to death.

Typical.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

So politicians kids are making the same mistakes as everyone elses? Shock.
Non-issue here, too. Can't see anyone having an issue with this...if she were going to
abort the whole nation would be at war over it.

This is exactly how I see it, too. The girl is pregnant, yes, but she's planning to keep the child and marry the child's father. What's the problem? To the pro-lifers, here is yet another example of Palin's family taking the more difficult road and keeping the child.

How many Americans have teenaged sons and daughters? How many of them have faced a teen pregnancy in their families? How many Americans do you think will be able to identify with Sarah Palin?

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valerieSONORA 16 years ago

Who cares? Not me.

Lots of teens get pregnant. Go to any high school and ask how many are pregnant or have babies. Does this make her "more bad" than the others? It's completely a non issue and I don't know why it's made news headlines. 17 and younger ppl are getting pregnant everyday. I don't see where the big deal or controversy is.
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  You know... what's really a shame is that we have to have a natural disaster like a hurricane to shake the political pundits out of their finger-pointing stupor these days...
  
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  Who cares! if it would be anyone else no one would think anything of it. Besides what else is there to do in Alaska?
  
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  Michael Gentry 16 years ago
  
  It should not hurt McCain's chances and it probably won't. Even Obama said this issue is off limits. It is a personal matter.
  
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  EileenD 16 years ago
  
  I don't think it will make any difference to McCain's chances. I feel sorry for the daughter, having to deal with all of the media wolves chasing after her. I heard the New York Times has three articles about her on the first page of today's paper! That's ridiculous!
  
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jaggyjay 16 years ago

Hey Kevin,

That made me laugh. Now imagine going on Maury and saying the same thing during one of his "Baby Daddy" shows while the crowd yells MAURY MAURY MAURY. LOL!
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  doesn't matter though it's quite alarming.
  
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  John Rowe 16 years ago
  
  At 17, I think she's paying too high a price for 30 seconds of disappointment and discomfort.
  
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  KimW 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by John Rowe
  
  At 17, I think she's paying too high a price for 30 seconds of disappointment and discomfort.
  
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  Oh come on John, give yourself more credit than that
  
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  Oh come on John, give yourself more credit than that.
  
  Well Kim, in my defense, I'm not really 17 any more.
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Patrician

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

Why are you asking me? I was nowhere near her.

Give it up Kevin. We saw the ultrasound and the kid has a 'recipe for mission possible' tattoo.

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16 years ago

Indy, Indy, Indy....... great post!! Couldn't agree with you more. Just what we need, someone else like Bush who believe's the Iraq war is god's will.

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Waste of space...bread & circuses...Hell is this American idol...

Palin is a nutter or an trite liar....Look at this...

WASHINGTON, Sept. 3 (UPI) -- Likely Republican U.S. vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin told her church congregation that the Iraq war was part of God's plan, a videotape revealed.

A 14-minute video of a speech the Alaska governor delivered in June to the Wasilla, Alaska, Assembly of God Church and posted Tuesday on the Huffington Post Web site showed her saying the United States' involvement in Iraq is "a task that is from God."

She is seen saying: "Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending (troops) out on a task that is from God. That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

In the speech, she tells the congregation that building a long-sought, 1,715-mile natural gas pipeline from Prudhoe Bay, Alaska to Alberta, Canada, is also part of God's plan.

"I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said

This woman is completely, totally "MAD" or a well funded Dis operative...You choose USA..Your game, your Karma...Indy

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derekwong28 16 years ago

It was said that during the civil war, Abraham Lincoln would say that "we are on god's side". Whereas bush would use the term "god is on our side". One can really see the difference in this and the latter would be considered by many christians as blasphemous.
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16 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Indy, Indy, Indy....... great post!! Couldn't agree with you more. Just what we need, someone else like Bush who believe's the Iraq war is god's will.

Scary. Now we have another George Bush.

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16 years ago

I pray she gives birth to triplets.

The baby's daddy wrote in his myspace page that he does not want any children.

I hope one of the babies is called Shotgun.

You can all name the remaining two of the triplets that the 17 year old will have.

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yuri12

16 years ago

Personally, I don't think pot use or cocaine is a deterrent to run for politics. If Canada has a political party that pushes for legalization then why not Palin? The ironic part is that she is part of a family values oriented party like the Republicans. But I really want her to win for the sake of upholding lost family values since she came from the "experimental phase" like most liberal minded individuals and gave in to political persuasions to complement a maverick like McCain.

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Kay King

16 years ago

Palin admits to pot and cocaine use too.

Want to reference that comment? Or just babble on with one charge after another? Obama admits to pot use - Bush had a drinking problem in the past....exactly why is it that Palin should be perfect?

The quote Indy attributes to Palin is not the quote in the video of that church gathering. The actual quote attributed to Palin -

"that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that's what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God's plan."

in which she clearly says to pray that the plan is God's plan. Does anyone check the truth of a statement before agreeing with it?

It is being reported differently on left wing blogs - the same places that saw no problem with Obama's 20 year history with a racist preacher. I see Palin's daughter being discussed - but did anyone ask if Michelle Obama also quit that racist church? No, they didn't - and she never said.

The snide remarks against Palin are a result of her popularity with the public. Obama is digging a trench in attacking her "credentials" as they are as valid as his own and it's not smart for him to focus on the VP candidate of the other party.

Obama's continued refusal to acknowledge the difference the surge in Iraq has made is just stubborn. He says he opposed the war (but so what, he wasn't in a position to vote) - but is missing the chance to point out that sufficient troops at the beginning (as the military wanted) might have shortened this war significantly.

Bush has shown us what happens when you lower taxes and greatly increase spending - you dig a hole for yourself. Obama still promises great changes - but many of them are very expensive plans. How deep a hole can we dig financially before the entire country falls into it? We're on the edge now.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Want to reference that comment? Or just babble on with one charge after another? Obama admits to pot use - Bush had a drinking problem in the past....exactly why is it that Palin should be perfect?

kay

I heard that from Foxnews that Palin used cocaine and pot in the past.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by yuri12

Personally, I don't think pot use or cocaine is a deterrent to run for politics. If Canada has a political party that pushes for legalization then why not Palin? The ironic part is that she is part of a family values oriented party like the Republicans. But I really want her to win for the sake of upholding lost family values since she came from the "experimental phase" like most liberal minded individuals and gave in to political persuasions to complement a maverick like McCain.

Saying they are now for "Change" is the biggest lie. Plus her lie about stopping the bridge to nowhere. Or when McCain says they sold the plane on eBay for a profit. Lie. Or that Obama will raise taxes on everyone. Lie. These people are lying bigtime and people need to call them on that.

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16 years ago

“that our national leaders are sending them out on a task that is from God, that’s what we have to make sure we are praying for, that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.”

Yeh, that's a ridiculous statement. Pray that god has a plan for a war. Well, it's in line with her crazy church where recently a guest speaker said:

Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It's very real. When Isaac [Brickner's son] was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment -- you can't miss it.

Palestinian Attack In Israel Part of God's Judgment, Said Recent Guest At Palin's Church

Yeh, a terrorist act in Jerusalem is god's judgment. That's some crazy stuff right there. So god is for terrorism and also makes plans for wars. Rev Wright is looking better every day. By the way, the current paster at Palin's church was asked if the speaker quoted above would be asked back and he said "yes".

Is anyone going to demand that Palin quit her racist, extreme church?

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Yeh, that's a ridiculous statement. Pray that god has a plan for a war. Well, it's in line with her crazy church where recently a guest speaker said:

Palestinian Attack In Israel Part of God's Judgment, Said Recent Guest At Palin's Church

Yeh, a terrorist act in Jerusalem is god's judgment. That's some crazy stuff right there. So god is for terrorism and also makes plans for wars. Rev Wright is looking better every day. By the way, the current paster at Palin's church was asked if the speaker quoted above would be asked back and he said "yes".

Is anyone going to demand that Palin quit her racist, extreme church?

Is anyone going to demand that Palin quit her racist, extremist church?

We are all still waiting. They have double standards. Palin makes ridiculous statements in church. We never hear Obama make any statement in church, yet he was attacked. The two pastors stand firmly that terrorism is a visit on the Israelis as God's judgment. These are the wackos that want to run this country and nobody is making a fuss.

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Kay King 16 years ago

run this country

This country that you don't live in?

Palin must be very threatening to some people - as they constantly compare her to Obama - not to Biden.
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  Originally Posted by Kay King
  
  This country that you don't live in?
  
  Palin must be very threatening to some people - as they constantly compare her to Obama - not to Biden.
  
  Have you ever heard of Americans living abroad?
  
  You will be surprised how many people worldwide are watching this election. Is America going to be stupid enough to elect McCain/Palin?
  
  How can you be against the war in Iraq and put another republican in charge?
  
  How can you hear Palin/McCain lying and think that you can trust them in the white house?
  
  They are lying and cheating and you will believe them that Iran has weapons of mass destruction or that North Korea has weapons of mass destruction? Who is going to believe them. She attends an anti-semite church for crying out loud.
  
  The world may forgive America for Bush 8 years, but if you are going to get another group that claims that God is talking to them but considers the discussion on stem cell research a new low, whoever that votes for them (McCain/Palin), live with the curse.
  
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16 years ago

I would hope that it would not affect her.

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marilyne

16 years ago

I thought this was 2008 and not 1778. I would rather know that she was keeping the baby instead of killing it. And who cares any way. Does that make Governor Palin any less qualified. I think McCain made a wise choice for VP.

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16 years ago

That type of crap makes good copy for the tabloids, but It really shouldn't matter. When I'm in need of surgery, I don't care who my doctor is sleeping with, much less who her son or daughter is doing. Unfortunately there is a segment of our society who claims to be holyer than thou, but most have a skeleton or two hiding somewhere.

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derekwong28 16 years ago

Under most circumstances, this shouldn't matter unless there is a lot of hypocripsy involved on the side of the candidate e.g. preaching family values, sexual absteinance before marriage etc.
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acreativetouch

16 years ago

Well, I'm a grandmother of 3, and NONE of the kids are married. Well, that is their choice....and I get to enjoy the grandkids!

I don't judge Palin for her daughter's choices. I choose to believe that she did her best. As parents, raise our kids to the best of our abilities, and trust that when the kids are older they will return if they are way-ward.

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Jean Morgan

16 years ago

I say "there but for the grace of God go I and all the other parents of teenagers". Lots of teenagers get pregnant every year so why the big deal. It will be dealt with by the kids and families concerned in the way they feel most appropriate.

I also think that it is the right of other countries to take interest in your election. After all, whoever becomes your next president will have a major impact upon our lives, Bush certainly has. And anyway we tend to get more balanced coverage of your two candidates than it appears you do.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jean Morgan

I say "there but for the grace of God go I and all the other parents of teenagers". Lots of teenagers get pregnant every year so why the big deal. It will be dealt with by the kids and families concerned in the way they feel most appropriate.

I also think that it is the right of other countries to take interest in your election. After all, whoever becomes your next president will have a major impact upon our lives, Bush certainly has. And anyway we tend to get more balanced coverage of your two candidates than it appears you do.

Thank you very much. Some of them think that once they rudely dismiss other countries that they will go away quietly. Not in this globalization. Decisions American citizens take on this election will affect a lot of people worldwide and it is time that this is made loud and clear.

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16 years ago

The UK cannot go away quietly. We are in it up to and over our heads.

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Kay King

16 years ago

logocheckout -

Debate and opinion from anyone is always welcome. Problem is, you are new here - posts are mostly in the OT section - and you seem to have an agenda for US politics and push it at every chance.

Instead of reasoned opinions, your posts often have a shrill sound of rhetoric and warning especially when you challenge so rudely what those in THIS country state as their opinion.

That is why some of us don't care for posts where you seem to insist that those of us in the US know nothing if we don't agree with you.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

logocheckout -

Debate and opinion from anyone is always welcome. Problem is, you are new here - posts are mostly in the OT section - and you seem to have an agenda for US politics and push it at every chance.

Instead of reasoned opinions, your posts often have a shrill sound of rhetoric and warning especially when you challenge so rudely what those in THIS country state as their opinion.

That is why some of us don't care for posts where you seem to insist that those of us in the US know nothing if we don't agree with you.

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logocheckout 16 years ago

Originally Posted by Jean Morgan

The UK cannot go away quietly. We are in it up to and over our heads.

Right on. Do not go away please. I am not going any where either.

I pray to God that we go for peace and not trigger happy McCain/Palin.
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gigis

16 years ago

OK, does anyone want to imagine what would be happening right now if Obama had a daughter of child-bearing age who was pregnant and unmarried? Or Biden?

Oh, and everyone is comparing Palin and Obama because neither is a white male, which is the demographic of most Presidential and Vice-Presidential hopefuls.

Just my $.02

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bendiggs

16 years ago

I do not care at all about Palin's daughter and her pregnancy or the fact that she is an unwed mother. This happens all the time, and in Alaska, where there are few women and many cold nights I expect it happens even more frequently. Kids make stupid choices even when their parents have worked hard to raise them well, and I don't expect the kid of a politician to be any different.

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16 years ago

Originally Posted by bendiggs

I do not care at all about Palin's daughter and her pregnancy or the fact that she is an unwed mother. This happens all the time, and in Alaska, where there are few women and many cold nights I expect it happens even more frequently. Kids make stupid choices even when their parents have worked hard to raise them well, and I don't expect the kid of a politician to be any different.

The mother does not believe in sex education.

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