First Closup of UFO Crash!

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I have heard some of the video comments, but if true this could be the first decent closeup of a UFO crashing!



Shane

I have taken some screen shots and will post any findings tomorrow!
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    Wow! Is that real?
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    • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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      OP, I can't believe you are even considering that footage could possibly be of a genuine UFO.

      There doesn't appear to be any kind of background (sky, clouds, etc).

      The "UFO" has the appearance of a somewhat deflated rugby ball.

      There is no "huge impact" to the landing. Strange, given that they've tracked the "UFO" throughout it's descent.

      It doesn't sit well with me and I'd certainly place it in the bottom 10% of purported UFO sightings I've seen video footage of. This comes from someone who avidly reads up on anything of this nature, and would love to see actual irrefutable evidence of anything extraterrestrial on planet Earth, the mother-in-law aside.
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        Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

        OP, I can't believe you are even considering that footage could possibly be of a genuine UFO.
        I assure you he can; and if he says he is, he is: you perhaps haven't read the thread with the Martian rabbit?
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        Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

        There is no "huge impact" to the landing.
        This is actually good news. Because of the low impact of the crash, there may be a chance the ET flight crew survived and were able to get away safely.
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        • Profile picture of the author Riptor
          I knew I had seen this footage before..
          This is NOT a UFO, it is a returning NASA space probe called Genesis and it's from 2004.

          Space Today Online - Genesis returns to Earth after studying the Sun in deep space


          But the real truth is out there...
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            Originally Posted by Riptor View Post

            I knew I had seen this footage before..
            This is NOT a UFO, it is a returning NASA space probe called Genesis and it's from 2004.

            Space Today Online - Genesis returns to Earth after studying the Sun in deep space


            But the real truth is out there...
            Sir:

            Had you waited another 20 posts, before you posted this...it would have been a lot more fun. My "Thanks" button is dead, or this thread would be full. Perhaps tomorrow.

            Some highlights......

            Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

            If it was a UFO they wouldn't have announced "No chute, no chute." A chute was expected because it was a known object.
            I didn't catch it when I first saw the video. But it's kind of funny, wen you think about it.

            Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

            My question is;

            If these guys are capable of interplanetary travel, Why do they keep crashing?
            Maybe the funniest post here.

            Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

            Yes . . . it really are exist.
            OK, maybe this is funnier. But not by much.

            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            I assure you he can; and if he says he is, he is: you perhaps haven't read the thread with the Martian rabbit?
            If you've read plenty of Shane's posts, and Alexa's post, this one will make you laugh out loud. It did me.

            Friends teasing friends.

            And Shane took his jab like a man. A pretty fun 10 minutes, all in all.
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            • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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              Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post


              Yes . . . it really are exist.
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              OK, maybe this is funnier. But not by much.
              Your insults get greater every day oh great Jor-El.
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        Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

        OP, I can't believe you are even considering that footage could possibly be of a genuine UFO.

        There doesn't appear to be any kind of background (sky, clouds, etc).
        Conceivably possible!

        The "UFO" has the appearance of a somewhat deflated rugby ball.
        ACTUALLY, it looks like something like a "flying saucer" would look, if NOTHING held it up! Though the forward movement and some other erratic behavior indicate it had little mass, or was faked.

        There is no "huge impact" to the landing. Strange, given that they've tracked the "UFO" throughout it's descent.
        How can you really tell? They cut out, and then show the object in a hole. FRANKLY, I doubt it would fall as it did, as it was, and make a hole like it did. I would expect it to look more like a highspeed car crash, or a plane crash.

        It doesn't sit well with me and I'd certainly place it in the bottom 10% of purported UFO sightings I've seen video footage of. This comes from someone who avidly reads up on anything of this nature, and would love to see actual irrefutable evidence of anything extraterrestrial on planet Earth.
        They are talking about it almost like a planned flight, etc... And they said "A NO CHUTE". WHY? It DOES seem very PHONY! I'm just saying that the lack of clouds and an appearance like that wouldn't automatically brand it as fake.

        So what do I think? Some paper, balsa, or other light model may have been used. Parts looked like they could even have it spinning on a thread. Maybe in front of a screen. The object on the ground could be ANYTHING. The blackout made joining the two easy. There was some odd noise maybe for effect, who knows. The people talking could have been talking about ANYTHING! Maybe even a jet crash. The 200,000feet, etc... WOULD be high, but who knows?

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      • Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

        the mother-in-law aside.
        You crack me up.
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    lol hoax funny stuff
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    I'd have to see it physically in real life with my own eyes to believe it. Even then, I probably won't
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    Yeah I don't think it's a real alien UFO..unfortunately.
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    To me it looks more like a hubcap. I should know better than to get my hopes up when I see thread titles like this!
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    If it was a UFO they wouldn't have announced "No chute, no chute." A chute was expected because it was a known object.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      If it was a UFO they wouldn't have announced "No chute, no chute." A chute was expected because it was a known object.
      Since my thanks button is dead, I guess I have to get this one to ya manually. Where's an ET techie when you need them anyhow?

      That was a good catch. I couldn't hear a lot of what they were saying. I've definitely seen stranger stuff than that thing over a military base target range before. I'm sure that THEY knew what it was, even though I was pretty wowed by it.
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      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      If it was a UFO they wouldn't have announced "No chute, no chute." A chute was expected because it was a known object.
      You're the only one that caught that Dennis. The United states has been experimenting in creating flying saucers since I believe the 1950's.

      They contracted the project to Canada but it resulted in failure after failure but the US. demanded that Canada turn over the saucer when the project was finally scrapped.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

        You're the only one that caught that Dennis. The United states has been experimenting in creating flying saucers since I believe the 1950's.

        They contracted the project to Canada but it resulted in failure after failure but the US. demanded that Canada turn over the saucer when the project was finally scrapped.
        I knew they had experimented with the idea, I didn't know they contracted anything to Canada. Maybe they figured the Canadians could do it better since a flying saucer is kind of shaped like an igloo.



        (Just kidding, my Canadian friends. I know how you folks love igloo jokes. )
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          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          I knew they had experimented with the idea, I didn't know they contracted anything to Canada. Maybe they figured the Canadians could do it better since a flying saucer is kind of shaped like an igloo.



          (Just kidding, my Canadian friends. I know how you folks love igloo jokes. )
          The Russians are doing about the same thing - but you can always tell theirs apart because they are shaped like a bottle of Stolichnaya Elit.
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        Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

        You're the only one that caught that Dennis. The United states has been experimenting in creating flying saucers since I believe the 1950's.

        They contracted the project to Canada but it resulted in failure after failure but the US. demanded that Canada turn over the saucer when the project was finally scrapped.
        Wind tunnel tests showed the flying saucer design was actually aerodynamically unstable and would prove uncontrollable at high speeds, let alone supersonic speeds. The U.S. military ended up canceling the project in 1961. Apparently this data was never shared with ET pilots.
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        • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          I knew they had experimented with the idea, I didn't know they contracted anything to Canada. Maybe they figured the Canadians could do it better since a flying saucer is kind of shaped like an igloo.



          (Just kidding, my Canadian friends. I know how you folks love igloo jokes. )

          Although the project was a failure, they have had many years to perfect it since the project was scrapped.

          Here's a Di-classified document that I found on the National Archives blog.
          http://blogs.archives.gov/ndc/2012/0...flying-saucer/



          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          Wind tunnel tests showed the flying saucer design was actually aerodynamically unstable and would prove uncontrollable at high speeds, let alone supersonic speeds. The U.S. military ended up canceling the project in 1961. Apparently this data was never shared with ET pilots.

          I read about the wind tunnel tests in this article.
          'Flying Saucer' Was an Air Force Hover Vehicle : Discovery News
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

            Although the project was a failure, they have had many years to perfect it since the project was scrapped.
            As far as technological advances, this project (as well as earlier research begun in the early 1940's) actually was nowhere near being a failure. Some of the most advanced military aircraft ever produced were a direct result of stealth shapes and propulsion system designs developed during this period. For example, the SR-71 "Blackbird", B-2 stealth bomber, F-117 stealth fighter, and now even drones are using this technology with a "modified" saucer shape. These were (and some still are) quite often mistaken for UFO sightings.
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              Originally Posted by myob View Post

              As far as technological advances, this project (as well as earlier research begun in the early 1940's) actually was nowhere near being a failure. Some of the most advanced military aircraft ever produced were a direct result of stealth shapes and propulsion system designs developed during this period. For example, the SR-71 "Blackbird", B-2 stealth bomber, F-117 stealth fighter, and now even drones are using this technology with a "modified" saucer shape. These were (and some still are) quite often mistaken for UFO sightings.

              Yes I have researched this topic fairly well, the entire project was not a failure but the Hovercraft project AKA "the Avrocar" at that time was a failure.
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              • Profile picture of the author myob
                Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

                Yes I have researched this topic fairly well, the entire project was not a failure but the Hovercraft project AKA "the Avrocar" at that time was a failure.
                Then you should know that the circular design or "saucer" shape was originally intended to deflect radar, which most efficiently scatters the waves in all directions. The radar signature of even a large saucer-shaped aircraft is comparable to that of a bird.

                In 1942 the Navy ordered the construction of an experimental aircraft designated the Vought XF5U "Flying Flapjack": a flying saucer. And in some respects, the subsequent "Avrocar" project was a huge success in not only developments in stealth technology such as the SR-71 Blackbird, but also in vector propulsion design such as the Harrier jet (vertical take off and landing) and the "out of this world" maneuverability of advanced aircraft such as the F-22 Raptor and the latest (still in development) F-35 Lightning 2 joint strike stealth fighter.

                Whether or not intended by the US government, ET mania provides the ideal cover-up for making our very own UFOs.
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                  Originally Posted by myob View Post

                  Then you should know that the circular design or "saucer" shape was originally intended to deflect radar, which most efficiently scatters the waves in all directions. The radar signature of even a large saucer-shaped aircraft is comparable to that of a bird.

                  In 1942 the Navy ordered the construction of an experimental aircraft designated the Vought XF5U "Flying Flapjack": a flying saucer. And in some respects, the subsequent "Avrocar" project was a huge success in not only developments in stealth technology such as the SR-71 Blackbird, but also in vector propulsion design such as the Harrier jet (vertical take off and landing) and the "out of this world" maneuverability of advanced aircraft such as the F-22 Raptor and the latest (still in development) F-35 Lightning 2 joint strike stealth fighter.

                  Whether or not intended by the US government, ET mania provides the ideal cover-up for making our very own UFOs.
                  Many people have seen large triangular shaped objects and contend they are us.

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                  • Profile picture of the author myob
                    Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                    Many people have seen large triangular shaped objects and contend they are us.

                    Dan
                    LOL! Nearly all of the most advanced stealth aircraft are now triangular shaped - a compromise between stealth, stability, and performance.

                    With some very notable exceptions (as in the OP and previous posts), these are genuine UFOs - by US.
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                      Originally Posted by myob View Post

                      LOL! Nearly all of the most advanced stealth aircraft are now triangular shaped - a compromise between stealth, stability, and performance.

                      With some very notable exceptions (as in the OP and previous posts), these are genuine UFOs - by US.
                      The triangle shaped ones I was referring to have been very low flying, in some cases, and reported to be larger than a football field. Almost twice as large. No sound. Able to move very slowly. Some thoughts were maybe some kind of blimp, except they can move way too fast.
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                  Originally Posted by myob View Post


                  Whether or not intended by the US government, ET mania provides the ideal cover-up for making our very own UFOs.

                  ET mania was actually deliberately manifested by our very own CIA, designed to divert attention from the secret project.
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                  • Profile picture of the author myob
                    Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

                    ET mania was actually deliberately manifested by our very own CIA, designed to divert attention from the secret project.
                    Bingo, we have a winner!

                    The UFO "crash" in 1947 was a staged event by the CIA to help encourage the growing myth of alien visitors, and to conceal what was really going on in Area 51 and other clandestine aviation research centers.

                    In an apparent attempt to quell speculation about the military nature of the Avrocar project, a press conference was held in July 1952, at which the military denied any knowledge of the craft, and retired Major Donald Keyhoe declared his "belief" that it was of alien origin. Then in 1957 Keyhoe became head of the civilian UFO group NICAP (National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena)
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    My question is;

    If these guys are capable of interplanetary travel, Why do they keep crashing?
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

      My question is;

      If these guys are capable of interplanetary travel, Why do they keep crashing?
      Those ET guys obviously never learned about the terrestrial laws of physics, science, or aerodynamics.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

      My question is;

      If these guys are capable of interplanetary travel, Why do they keep crashing?
      They usually don't - but remember that earth has tequila, everclear, peyote, pot...............
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    Wow.... is it really exist.
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      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      I assure you he can; and if he says he is, he is: you perhaps haven't read the thread with the Martian rabbit?

      I don't read everything, l may occasionally read a UFO mag to see if l can cross reference my Mars thread, etc, but never buy them!


      Hmmm, the Martian rabbit may not be the best example, l would go with the house one, since no one has been able to show how it is a rock!


      l did say, if it is genuine, but from the link someone posted it obviously isn't a UFO! Drat!!!!! :rolleyes:


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      Originally Posted by FinestCigars View Post


      Wow.... is it really exist.
      Yes . . . it really are exist.


      PS - What does a bunch of penguins have to do with your user-name, FinestCigars? On second thoughts, I don't want to know.
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    Has been looked at by experts in puppets etc ... and their conclusion was that it would be VERY difficult if not impossible to reproduce some of those movements.

    another interesting video:

    Your thoughts?
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      Originally Posted by DavidAllenNeron View Post

      Area 51 - Alien Interview - YouTube

      Has been looked at by experts in puppets etc ... and their conclusion was that it would be VERY difficult if not impossible to reproduce some of those movements.
      Difficult to produce the movements with puppets perhaps, but not with computer animation.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        Difficult to produce the movements with puppets perhaps, but not with computer animation.

        Spoken like a man who's attended absolutely incredible Rock/Laser shows during his lifetime. :rolleyes:
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    WOW..Is it real?I don't think so.
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    I believe there are aliens in other planets just like we in the Earth.
    So UFO has the opportunity to exist.
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      Originally Posted by mandy135 View Post

      I believe there are aliens in other planets just like we in the Earth.
      So UFO has the opportunity to exist.
      There are lots of earthlike planets in the universe, so there probably is a consensus that the universe is swarming with life, including highly intelligent beings. There are certainly physics-related challenges on how the kind space of travel involved in flying UFOs to Earth would, or if it even could, take place.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Bingo, we have a winner!

        The UFO "crash" in 1947 was a staged event by the CIA to help encourage the growing myth of alien visitors, and to conceal what was really going on in Area 51 and other clandestine aviation research centers.

        In an apparent attempt to quell speculation about the military nature of the Avrocar project, a press conference was held in July 1952, at which the military denied any knowledge of the craft, and retired Major Donald Keyhoe declared his "belief" that it was of alien origin. Then in 1957 Keyhoe became head of the civilian UFO group NICAP (National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena)

        Right, that must mean this was staged as well?


        Maybe this is all staged, but l doubt that no one can be 100% certain!

        There have been a few UFO crashes over the last 60 years, but since they are rare, and they tend to take a particular interest in military bases, we hear little!


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          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Right, that must mean this was staged as well?

          Roswell UFO - RARE Actual Debris Footage!!! - YouTube

          Maybe this is all staged, but l doubt that no one can be 100% certain!

          There have been a few UFO crashes over the last 60 years, but since they are rare, and they tend to take a particular interest in military bases, we hear little!


          Shane
          Outside of the odd symbols, and the implication that there were multiple humanoids with 6 fingers on each hand, the description sounds like it is consistent with the weather balloon story. The items they show may have no alien purpose, and casts on earth are usually done differently. As for the odd symbols, people claimed they were just done that way, which is possible.

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        • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Right, that must mean this was staged as well?



          Maybe this is all staged, but l doubt that no one can be 100% certain!

          There have been a few UFO crashes over the last 60 years, but since they are rare, and they tend to take a particular interest in military bases, we hear little!


          Shane


          Take a look at this supposed UFO sighting, to me the look like nothing more than stealth fighters jets.



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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    This is my favorite UFO footage.

    Some "experts" claim what is seen here are nothing more than ice particles.

    This theory has been totally refuted by individuals, equally expert in their respective fields.


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    • Profile picture of the author BlvdJeremy
      Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

      This is my favorite UFO footage.

      Some "experts" claim what is seen here are nothing more than ice particles.

      This theory has been totally refuted by individuals, equally expert in their respective fields.


      UFO Dodges Missile Fired from Earth - Official NASA Footage - YouTube
      That's pretty awesome !
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      Originally Posted by BlvdJeremy View Post

      That's pretty awesome !
      Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

      This is my favorite UFO footage.

      Some "experts" claim what is seen here are nothing more than ice particles.

      This theory has been totally refuted by individuals, equally expert in their respective fields.


      UFO Dodges Missile Fired from Earth - Official NASA Footage - YouTube

      I remember reading somewhere that the object approaching the earth was moving at roughly 3000 mps or 10800000 mph and had a diameter of aprox. 1 mile.

      I don't know exactly how they calculate this sort of stuff, but a lot of investigation has gone into this footage.

      The beam you see coming towards the object from the earth was coming somewhere from the Australian continent.
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      • Profile picture of the author bravo75
        This one takes some debunking:

        The Belgian UFO wave peaked with the events of the night of 30/31 March 1990. On that night unknown objects were tracked on radar, chased by two Belgian Air Force F-16's, photographed, and were sighted by an estimated 13,500 people on the ground - 2,600 of whom filed written statements describing in detail what they had seen.

        Following the incident the Belgian air force released a report detailing the events of that night.

        At around 23:00 on 30 March the supervisor for the Control Reporting Center (CRC) at Glons received reports that three unusual lights were seen moving towards Thorembais-Gembloux, which lies to the South-East of Brussels.

        The lights were reported to be brighter than stars, changing color between red, green and yellow, and appeared to be fixed at the vertices of an equilateral triangle.

        At this point Glons CRC requested the Wavre gendarmerie send a patrol to confirm the sighting.


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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

          This one takes some debunking:
          Why? :rolleyes:

          This incident is commonly cited by die-hard UFO enthusiasts as "proof". But isn't it rather strange that there are no published photographs from the thousands of people who saw those UFOs and which were also supposedly photographed by Belgian Air Force pilots?

          I've only seen two published photographs of the alleged "Belgian UFO wave"; one by Patrick Marechal, who later confessed his was a hoax (using a styrofoam model), and the other appears to be nothing more than a blurry copy of the fake photo.
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          • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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            In today's age of state-of-the-art, powerful digital cameras, portable cams, and mobile phones with recording facilities, where exactly is the abundance of evidence we should be seeing of UF0's? The simple fact of the matter is that it's not here, much as I'd like it to be proven otherwise.

            I'm a great believer that life flourishes on billions of planets in billions of galaxies, but the distances between these star systems is so vast and incomprehensible that we'll never witness a genuine UFO/alien, no matter how advanced their technology.
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    Here's another very compelling incident. This happened in Zimbabwe and is very difficult to refute. The interviews with the children were conducted by John E Mack.

    John E. Mack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    • Profile picture of the author Riptor
      Here's another very compelling incident. This happened in Zimbabwe and is very difficult to refute. The interviews with the children were conducted by John E Mack.
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      Great case Bravo and pretty much ignored as many good incidents are, it's strange how that always happens.

      A follow up video, and more interviews with the kids (witnesses)

      In a private elementary school in Ruwa, Africa, on September 16, 1994, 62 children witness three silver balls in the sky over the school. They were zipping about the sky and appearing in different places. Then, one of the silver orbs, landed/hovered over an area the children were not permitted to play.

      They then witnessed a creature getting out of the vehicle and observing them. The children all became scared and then made a beeline - running back to the school for a teacher.

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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by Riptor View Post

        Here's another very compelling incident. This happened in Zimbabwe and is very difficult to refute. The interviews with the children were conducted by John E Mack.
        Here's a quick summary of the valid evidence presented so far:












































        Well, that's about it.

        Other UFO "research" by John E. Mack:
        Passport to the Cosmos: Human Transformation and Alien Encounters (1999)
        Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens (1994)
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  • Profile picture of the author MaxTheMarketer
    I highly recommend: The Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe | The Skeptics Guide to the Universe for anyone who wants to get into the whole Ufology-thing.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Clearly a silver metallic craft of some kind, with a cockpit above!









      Since they all seemed to move in perfect unity now and then l would lean towards one of theirs, instead of some military craft, or ours!


      If skeptics, either said this was genuine UFO's or military craft, then they would have my attention, but if they said it was a pack of seagulls, or a optical illusion created by the interaction of sea salt from the ocean and the sun, then l would recommend a good shrink!


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    If that is true, that should have been reach CNN or some world news reports with scientists proving it as alien stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    It's not the technology they need to have -- they can get here and there on OUR technology. What they would need is a better understanding of time than we have. For instance - they might know how to navigate inside of the "energy" stage of the energy/matter oscillation, where time is completely irrelevant.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by CigCarter View Post

      If that is true, that should have been reach CNN or some world news reports with scientists proving it as alien stuff.
      Unless of course most or all news stations are controlled by world gov,!

      Finding clear evidence of water on Mars with didly-squat from the media is clear proof that media is a gov, puppet.

      Most movies give the impression that mass media will uncover the truth and report it, but the reality is, governments and their thugs, will use whatever means at their disposal, (withholding money or threats) to keep a lid on it!

      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      It's not the technology they need to have -- they can get here and there on OUR technology. What they would need is a better understanding of time than we have. For instance - they might know how to navigate inside of the "energy" stage of the energy/matter oscillation, where time is completely irrelevant.
      Yep, and a scientist in the 1800's proved that electricity moves faster than light, with a series of experiments. Some current experiments proved that same thing, or that certain particles will reach light speed then vanish only to reappear later on!


      It might be that faster than light speed, goes into subspace or even allows us to find a way into 4 dimensional space, or it punches it's way into the next highest dimension, or goes at right angles to 3 dimensional space?

      Either way if faster than light is possible, then distance or even time may become irrelevant!


      But either way using tech, that is barely possible today would allow them to reach us within a lifetime, as long as their star system was no further than 10 light years.

      And if Warp drive is possible, (good chance) then a fair part of the galaxy could reach us within a year!


      I don't think that distance is the issue, downright fear is probably the underlying issue!


      If they wanted to knock us off, they would probably have a good 1000 years or more to do it, so clearly that isn't a concern.


      Remember we are talking about advanced or very advanced in every way not just intellectually, so with science and religion being one and the same thing, there is no fear, unless putting everyone on an even slate, sharing resources, and cutting out the lot of the crap we currently have to put up with is scary?


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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Unless of course most or all news stations are controlled by world gov,!

        Finding clear evidence of water on Mars with didly-squat from the media is clear proof that media is a gov, puppet.

        Most movies give the impression that mass media will uncover the truth and report it, but the reality is, governments and their thugs, will use whatever means at their disposal, (withholding money or threats) to keep a lid on it!
        However, there are independent and reliable sources indicating that UFOs may not originate from outer space:

        Appearing at a press conference, a Commander of the Martian Air Force recently denounced false rumors that a Martian UFO crashed in the hinterland behind Cairns, Australia. He stated, "The object was a harmless high altitude weather balloon, not an Martian spacecraft."

        The story broke when a resident at Dimbulah contacted the local newspaper about a UFO sighting. "The strange, balloon shaped object allegedly came down in the vicinity. It bounced several times and deflated in an explosion of alien gasses before coming to a stop."

        The Martian Commander, Major Roger Rabbit, contacted the local newspaper contradicting the earlier press story. He said, "Hysterical stories of a detachable Martian vehicle roaming across the Queensland hinterland were blatant fiction provoked by incidences involving swamp gas."

        The Australian public is reluctant to accept the Martian Air Force's explanation preferring to speculate on the alien nature of the crash debris. Conspiracy theorists condemn the Martian Commander's statements as evidence of a government cover-up by pointing out that Mars has no swamps.

        Martian Air Force Commander, Major Roger Rabbit, Denies Crashed UFOs Are From Mars
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          However, there are independent and reliable sources indicating that UFOs may not originate from outer space:

          Appearing at a press conference, a Commander of the Martian Air Force recently denounced false rumors that a Martian UFO crashed in the hinterland behind Cairns, Australia. He stated, "The object was a harmless high altitude weather balloon, not an Martian spacecraft."

          The story broke when a resident at Dimbulah contacted the local newspaper about a UFO sighting. "The strange, balloon shaped object allegedly came down in the vicinity. It bounced several times and deflated in an explosion of alien gasses before coming to a stop."

          The Martian Commander, Major Roger Rabbit, contacted the local newspaper contradicting the earlier press story. He said, "Hysterical stories of a detachable Martian vehicle roaming across the Queensland hinterland were blatant fiction provoked by incidences involving swamp gas."

          The Australian public is reluctant to accept the Martian Air Force's explanation preferring to speculate on the alien nature of the crash debris. Conspiracy theorists condemn the Martian Commander's statements as evidence of a government cover-up by pointing out that Mars has no swamps.

          Martian Air Force Commander, Major Roger Rabbit, Denies Crashed UFOs Are From Mars
          I would agree in this instance although, with a name like that l can't figure out whether or not this is a gag?


          And there are also several substantiated images or cases showing that UFO's are genuine. The above UFO satellite being one, and the Apollo UFO, being another!

          Both can be proven to happen and be unidentified, so it all boils down to one believer seeing a likely alien spacecraft and another seeing an asteroid, (albeit an asteroid with windows and steel plating, etc). :rolleyes:

          Fear and brick walls go hand in hand!


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          • Profile picture of the author Riptor
            I have never heard a satisfactory answer for this incident when the shuttle STS-80 filmed some sort of formation over Africa... maybe it was some sort of intelligent ice crystals which I am yet to learn about.


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            • Profile picture of the author bravo75
              Originally Posted by Riptor View Post

              I have never heard a satisfactory answer for this incident when the shuttle STS-80 filmed some sort of formation over Africa... maybe it was some sort of intelligent ice crystals which I am yet to learn about.


              NASA STS-80 .... UFO Formation Over Africa - YouTube
              I seen that one before. Amazing.
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          • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

            I would agree in this instance although, with a name like that l can't figure out whether or not this is a gag?
            Given that the quote you referenced is on a page titled "UFO Jokes - Jokes and tall stories from out of this world", which is listed in Yahoo Voices' Creative Writing category, it should be very easy to deduce that it's satire.
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    I love stuff like this, it seems legit.
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    87% of alien space craft travel billions of miles to get here only to end up crashing.
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