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Life Began On Mars, Got To Earth On Meteorites?

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New evidence supports theory that life may have started on Mars

"New evidence presented by Professor Steven Benner at The Westheimer Institute for Science and Technology in Florida suggests that, billions of years ago, Mars was a much better place for the first cells to have formed compared to Earth. This gives more weight to the theory that life may have started on the Red Planet and then found its way to Earth aboard a meteorite."
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    Mars, huh. We've had a truck load of threads about that.


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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

    New evidence supports theory that life may have started on Mars

    "New evidence presented by Professor Steven Benner at The Westheimer Institute for Science and Technology in Florida suggests that, billions of years ago, Mars was a much better place for the first cells to have formed compared to Earth. This gives more weight to the theory that life may have started on the Red Planet and then found its way to Earth aboard a meteorite."
    We really don't even know what our OWN planet was like "billions of years ago" - we haven't even explored 75% of the Earth NOW. But we're supposed to believe this guy knows what a planet we've never even BEEN TO was like billions of years ago?

    He can't be serious.

    So let me get this straight ... based on satellite photos and observations made by a remote control car that got stuck in the mud, we can now safely assume that in spite of having no evidence, life originated there and then somehow magically propelled itself into space and landed here?

    And this got published?

    These self-important jackasses make Internet Marketers seem humble.
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      Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

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      These self-important jackasses make Internet Marketers seem humble.
      Just wait until new Mars-life organizations starting sprouting all over the planet. Might be a good time to invest in M&M Mars, makers of Mars bars.
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    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    I love articles like that. They don't make a lick of sense, but people believe them because they have the patina of science. My very favorite one, though, is about some "scientist" who opines that human beings evolved from a pig-chimpanzee hybrid.

    I'm not kidding. Look it up.

    I don't know how a pig mated with a chimpanzee, but I'm sure there are people who would pay to see it.
    Holy wart-hogs, you weren't kidding:
    A chimp-pig hybrid origin for humans?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      presented by Professor Steven Benner at The Westheimer Institute
      Benner has the chops - he's not a faker or a nut and what he posits is a theory of the beginnings of evolution.

      He gave a talk on the four paradoxes of how life originated on earth and postulated a theory that might explain what happened. An abstract of his theory is here

      http://goldschmidt.info/2013/abstrac...alPDFs/686.pdf

      BBC News - Earth life 'may have come from Mars'

      The more it's reported online the more simplistic and sensational the stories become (nothing new there). One scientist said this theory is a bit more complex than Mars and Earth swapping spit a few billion years ago... I liked that comment!
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      • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Benner has the chops - he's not a faker or a nut and what he posits is a theory of the beginnings of evolution. <snip>
        Maybe not, but Immanuel Velikovsky comes to mind in reading that quote about meteorites, lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Maybe not, but Immanuel Velikovsky comes to mind in reading that quote about meteorites, lol.
          Wow. That name brings back memories. That was around the time I was reading Descartes' "Rules for the Direction of the Mind," Aristotle's "Manichaean Ethic," and such 'worthies' as "Chariots of the Gods," "Impossible Possibilities," "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance," and anything I could get by Michael Moorcock, JRR Tolkien, Frank Herbert, HP Lovecraft, and CJ Cherryh. Along with a lot of Asimov's books on science and futurism.

          I told my Dad once that Nixon's domestic policies were going to lead us right into a spy state, and he asked me "Where do you get these ideas from?" I told him to "wait one second."

          I went into my room and grabbed up an armload of books. Went back into the kitchen, piled them on the table in front of him, and said, "From those."

          He scowled as he looked at the first few titles, looked a bit more thoughtfully at some others, and finally said, "Would you mind clearing those off, please? I have to do the bills."

          I have the Best. Dad. Ever.


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          PS: The relevance? One of those books talked about the idea of solar wind pushing DNA through space, and leading to the population of worlds in many solar systems with genetically similar organisms.
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          • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
            Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post


            PS: The relevance? One of those books talked about the idea of solar wind pushing DNA through space, and leading to the population of worlds in many solar systems with genetically similar organisms.
            That is the same plot the "Fantastic Four" is based on.
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            • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
              Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

              That is the same plot the "Fantastic Four" is based on.
              Ummm... No.

              The Fantastic Four was based on the notion of how terrestrial space explorers would deal with the (statistically unlikely) results of gaining superpowers upon being exposed to cosmic rays.

              No extraterrestrial DNA required, Galactus notwithstanding.


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              • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
                Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                Ummm... No.

                The Fantastic Four was based on the notion of how terrestrial space explorers would deal with the (statistically unlikely) results of gaining superpowers upon being exposed to cosmic rays.

                No extraterrestrial DNA required, Galactus notwithstanding.


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                I think your thinking movie, not the orig comics, altho its been 30 years
                since i read them, so i might be wrong.
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                • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
                  Originally Posted by kenmichaels View Post

                  I think your thinking movie, not the orig comics, altho its been 30 years
                  since i read them, so i might be wrong.
                  Nope. I'm thinking original comics. Had 'em, read 'em (repeatedly), bought the reprints 30 years later.

                  The first of the recent FF movies was surprisingly true to the original story, as far as one could be within the demands of modern film-making. The only one I'm aware of that was equally true to the original was "The Watchmen." There's stuff in that one that only makes sense if you grew up when Tricky Dick was President.
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                  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
                    Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

                    Nope. I'm thinking original comics. Had 'em, read 'em (repeatedly), bought the reprints 30 years later.

                    The first of the recent FF movies was surprisingly true to the original story, as far as one could be within the demands of modern film-making. The only one I'm aware of that was equally true to the original was "The Watchmen." There's stuff in that one that only makes sense if you grew up when Tricky Dick was President.
                    jeash we are getting old. I don't know about you, but I never expected
                    to make it this long.
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                      jeash we are getting old.
                      Speak for yourself, son. My parents still flirt like 17-year olds over dinner.
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    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    I love articles like that. They don't make a lick of sense, but people believe them because they have the patina of science. My very favorite one, though, is about some "scientist" who opines that human beings evolved from a pig-chimpanzee hybrid.

    I'm not kidding. Look it up.

    I don't know how a pig mated with a chimpanzee, but I'm sure there are people who would pay to see it.
    I wouldn't give up on the pig mating the chimpanzee theory so fast. That explains a lot of people I know.
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    Mars is a wasteland. Whether there's life there before or not, I guess it doesn't matter because as of the moment, no one can ever survive there unsuited.
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