It's About Time We Had Some More 80's Classics!

11 years ago

Erasure - Oh L'Amour *BY REQUEST - YouTube

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KimW

11 years ago

The only Erasure I like. Well actually the only song I heard back then.

Erasure Victim Of Love - YouTube

By the way Shane,
Here comes the 90s!

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tagiscom

11 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

The only Erasure I like. Well actually the only song I heard back then.

Erasure Victim Of Love - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ANEx_6mbC2M

By the way Shane,
Here comes the 90s!

Here comes the 90's? Hmmmm, l feel another thread opening up? :rolleyes:

Hopefully Rap fre,e, the 90's went downhill with all that stuff flooding the airwaves!

Thanks for the music guys, but l am sure we can get a lot more than that?

More, more! He, he!

I will pop this one on, since it is very hard to get online, (all that Youtube copyright BS).

http://youtu.be/ANEx_6mbC2M

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Here comes the 90's? Hmmmm, l feel another thread opening up? :rolleyes:

Hopefully Rap free, the 90's went downhill with all that stuff flooding the airwaves!

Thanks for the music guys, but l am sure we can find a lot more than that?

More, more! He, he!

I will pop this one on, since it is very hard to find online, (all that Youtube copyright BS).

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Shane

Of course it means another thread. You don't like that?

I had actually thought about it a few days ago,but mainly because I am always saying how bad music became then,that I decided to try to be a bit more positive.

As fas as rap, I can count the number of rap songs I like on 10 fingers or less. It isn't music to me. But hey,to each their own.

Anyway....coming soon!

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sarwine

10 years ago

Hey, thanks for sharing great music moments...How about from the 70's...or is that too far back for you....LOL

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by sarwine

Hey, thanks for sharing great music moments...How about from the 70's...or is that too far back for you....LOL

You obviously are new here.
Go find the search function....choose off topic forum then search for music videos..... or just music, or any variations of it and then come back in a month after you catch up with what has already been posted.

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

You obviously are new here.
Go find the search function....choose off topic forum then search for music videos..... or just music, or any variations of it and then come back in a month after you catch up with what has already been posted.

It'll only take a month if he doesn't play any of the videos. If he plays them all, we won't see him again for a few years.

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Big Rob 10 years ago

Since Alfred E. started it, I may as well smack Y'all with some more Metal.

The Trooper Iron Maiden Live After Death - YouTube

Scorpions Blackout - YouTube

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Riptor 10 years ago

Got to have some Roxy...

Bryan Ferry - Don't Stop The Dance - YouTube

and this

John Waite - Missing You - YouTube
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- tagiscom 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by sarwine
  
  Hey, thanks for sharing great music moments...How about from the 70's...or is that too far back for you....LOL
  
  Nah, of course not.
  
  Yep, already covered those.
  
  Here you go.....
  
  http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...-classics.html
  
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  Another 80's gem, he, he! :p
  
  Flock of Seagulls if l am not mistaken? :rolleyes:
  
  Howard Jones "What is Love" - YouTube
  
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Patrician

11 years ago

Rock and Roll Radio.

The Ramones - Do You Remember Rock 'n' Roll

if you can remember the 1980s you weren't there. hahah - i was there, i listened to underground college radio, i loved so many songs - but who the hell knows who what or when?

this one i found written 1979 released 1980s so i know it is in the zone.

i have an anthology (2-cd) but i am not going to go through all the tiny print to find the ones in 1980s.

i will try to think of more in the near future but tonight - well it is monday and coming off a full moon so i have extra whining homework eating dog.

p.s. i love ELO and Erasure - 80s was a top music decade especially for 'alternative' (the original meaning of the word - classic alternative!) formerly known as new wave and punk.

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travlinguy

11 years ago

Simple Minds

Come On Eileen

This Must Be The Place (Naive Melody)

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Patrician

Rock and Roll Radio.

The Ramones - Do You Remember Rock 'n' Roll

if you can remember the 1980s you weren't there. hahah - i was there, i listened to underground college radio, i loved so many songs - but who the hell knows who what or when?

this one i found written 1979 released 1980s so i know it is in the zone.

i have an anthology (2-cd) but i am not going to go through all the tiny print to find the ones in 1980s.

i will try to think of more in the near future but tonight - well it is monday and coming off a full moon so i have extra whining homework eating dog.

p.s. i love ELO and Erasure - 80s was a top music decade especially for 'alternative' (the original meaning of the word - classic alternative!) formerly known as new wave and punk.

What, l can remember the 80's and l was there!!!

I can even remember some of the 70's, but l was a bit too young to remember much in the early 70's!

I certainly remember the Rubik's Cube craze in High School, and how 2.5 rows was as far as l could get with that &4#% puzzle.

Pet Rocks were a lot more fun!

Shane

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Riptor 10 years ago

Still a big fan of Simple Minds, my fave track

Simple Minds - Belfast Child - YouTube
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alistair

10 years ago

Originally Posted by travlinguy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=jW_aWY5PubI

Will always love this song. Good choice.

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

Of course it means another thread. You don't like that?

I had actually thought about it a few days ago,but mainly because I am always saying how bad music became then,that I decided to try to be a bit more positive.

As fas as rap, I can count the number of rap songs I like on 10 fingers or less. It isn't music to me. But hey,to each their own.

Anyway....coming soon!

Niah, the more the merrier! But l prefer the 80's or earlier, to me rap is missing one letter! Enough said! :rolleyes:

To me the 80's was more of a Resoniance time for music, and the 90's or now more of a mass consumption time period.

Or 70's and 80's, learning how to make a better burger, and the 90's plus making the same of similar burger! Still a tasty burger, but no more trail blazing. Or at least overall!

And rap is creating a good headache pill, and changing it's shape and color, to death as a way of fighting social justice.

Which is a noble cause but not very entertaining.

But l will take a look, maybe l will eat my words, about the 90's being a bit dead, imagination wise.

But not rap, with the Blondie song exception, hmmmm, might be an 80's song?

Shane

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tagiscom 10 years ago

Kim Carnes - Bette Davis Eyes (1981) - YouTube
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10 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Niah, the more the merrier! But l prefer the 80's or earlier, to me rap is missing one letter! Enough said! :rolleyes:

To me the 80's was more of a Resoniance time for music, and the 90's or now more of a mass consumption time period.

Or 70's and 80's, learning how to make a better burger, and the 90's plus making the same of similar burger! Still a tasty burger, but no more trail blazing. Or at least overall!

And rap is creating a good headache pill, and changing it's shape and color, to death as a way of fighting social justice.

Which is a noble cause but not very entertaining.

But l will take a look, maybe l will eat my words, about the 90's being a bit dead, imagination wise.

But not rap, with the Blondie song exception, hmmmm, might be an 80's song?

Shane

Ummm, I don't think we are in much disagreement here.
Like I sadi, I was always looking at the negative side of the 90s music scene, I'm trying to look at the positive.

PS: Just because it was Blondie,who I loved back then, doesn't make it good. I think that is when I lost faith in thet band, but if you insist,and after all it is 80s.

Bad Blondie:

Blondie - Rapture - YouTube

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whateverpedia 10 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

to me rap is missing one letter!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Now for some 80's music.

First off, grab your cardboard guitars and headbang along with this one from 1982:

Iron Maiden - Run To The Hills - YouTube

This song is what "broke" a young Irish quartet and set them up to be (arguably) the biggest band in the world during the 90's and beyond:

U2 -- Pride ( In The Name Of Love) [[ Official Live Video ]] HD - YouTube

Like the one above, this song transformed a band known pretty much only to it's relatives into "the biggest band in the world":

Sweet Child O' Mine Music Video - YouTube

Now, for something a bit more mellow from Kristy MacColl:

Kirsty MacColl A New England - YouTube

I'll be back later with more.
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Gijsbertus

10 years ago

A cool song I love Marianne Faithfull -- The Ballad Of Lucy Jordan HD - YouTube

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KimW

10 years ago

I'm cheating again. It isn't really 80s,but it is so on target.

Bowling For Soup - 1985 - YouTube

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KimW

10 years ago

This is 80s.
I will always remember the night I got to party backstage after a show at DAR Constitution Hall in Washington DC.

To bad the story is too long to type.

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

Ummm, I don't think we are in much disagreement here.
Like I sadi, I was always looking at the negative side of the 90s music scene, I'm trying to look at the positive.

PS: Just because it was Blondie,who I loved back then, doesn't make it good. I think that is when I lost faith in thet band, but if you insist,and after all it is 80s.

Bad Blondie:
Blondie - Rapture - YouTube

Yep, Blondie had her moments! I remember watching that, thinking it must have been a seriously powerful drug to induce those lyrics?

But since we are on a Robert Palmer track l will put this on...

The Power Station - Some Like It Hot - YouTube

1985! :p

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Yep, Blondie had her moments! I remember watching that, thinking it must have been a seriously powerful drug to induce those lyrics?

But since we are on a Robert Palmer track l will put this on...

The Power Station - Some Like It Hot - YouTube

1985! :p

Shane

Yours and mine,related. How?

Arcadia - Election Day [1985] (CD Version) -...

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tagiscom 10 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

Yours and mine,related. How?
Arcadia - Election Day [1985] (CD Version) - YouTube

Uh, to use an Aussie phrase, "Please Explain"?

I was just referring to the same train of thought, or same band!

But if l find some music from the 90's, that l like, l will certainly put it on your thread!

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KimW

10 years ago

Ah, I think your mind went a different way than mine, but here is the answer:

Duran Duran - Hungry Like The Wolf - YouTube

Robert Palmer was in Power Station with Members of Duran Duran.
Arcadia was formed by members of Duran Duran
So while I was hinting at how Power Station and Arcadia were related, it could actually show reationship between all three.

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Riptor 10 years ago

great old album track from Dire Straits

Dire Straits- Ride Across The River (Lyrics on...

and another, not quite 80's but well worthy of an airing!

Dire Straits - In The Gallery + lyrics - YouTube
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KimW

10 years ago

The last one for (my) night.
Starting the 80s.

The B-52s Give Me Back My man - YouTube

And leaving them:

The B-52's - Roam 1990 Video stereo widescreen -...

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Riptor

10 years ago

It's been a while since I heard the B-52's Kim.

This band still going strong and on tour... seen them last year.

The Stranglers - Golden Brown - YouTube

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

Ah, I think your mind went a different way than mine, but here is the answer:
Duran Duran - Hungry Like The Wolf - YouTube

Robert Palmer was in Power Station with Members of Duran Duran.
Arcadia was formed by members of Duran Duran
So while I was hinting at how Power Station and Arcadia were related, it could actually show reationship between all three.

You are obviously more into band stats, than l am, (appreciate the heads up).

Yeah, B52's brilliant female singers!

Here is one of my fav,.

B-52's Private Idaho - YouTube

A word of warning don't wear a big wig while dancing, he, he!

I hope that Terra, doesn't see the Wolf one, l don't want to see the wolf guarding the rainbow bridge posts again? :rolleyes:

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tagiscom 10 years ago

Another one from the 80's! :p

I won't put all their best songs up again, did that in another 80's thread!

The Style Council - Walls Come Tumbling Down! -...

And....

Bill and Ted - I Can't Break Away - YouTube

I decided to put the Movie version up here. And this was 1988!

Takeaways - Sweet & Sour (1984) - YouTube

Notice the state of the art special effects, at least for 1984!

Sigh! :rolleyes:

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DubDubDubDot

10 years ago

Johnny Marr has gotten better with age. This live performance of How Soon Is Now is better than anything from the 80s when The Smiths were still together.

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot

Johnny Marr has gotten better with age. This live performance of How Soon Is Now is better than anything from the 80s when The Smiths were still together.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIHOZOZYIHs

Thanks for that one, l watched this scene in this movie and always wondered who the band was????

Mystery solved!!! :p

The Wedding Singer ~ How Soon Is Now? (The...

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LynnM 10 years ago

Freddie in a skirt and some sublime storytelling.

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Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot

Johnny Marr has gotten better with age. This live performance of How Soon Is Now is better than anything from the 80s when The Smiths were still together.

Speaking of the Smiths...best album of all time according to NME: http://www.nme.com/news/the-smiths/73363
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KimW

10 years ago

"You are obviously more into band stats, than l am, (appreciate the heads up)."

I wish I had thought of that term back then. I just said I had no life.

Remember,back then there was no internet,no MP3s,streaming music or videos.

So now,back to the 80s!

Spandau Ballet - True - YouTube

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Riptor

10 years ago

This is a little obscure and different, and I am betting most people have never heard of them but they made some beautiful music, this one is from '84.

â¤ CocteauTwins - Pandora â¤ - YouTube

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

"You are obviously more into band stats, than l am, (appreciate the heads up)."

I wish I had thought of that term back then. I just said I had no life.

Remember,back then there was no internet,no MP3s,streaming music or videos.

So now,back to the 80s!

Spandau Ballet - True - YouTube

But we did have Walkmans, (still have a Sony one with a tape deck and radio).

As well as the Rubiks cube and Atari 2600, and my ever increasing Lego set!

Sigh!

Shane

PS couldn't get into Cabbage Patch Kids, because l thought they looked evil, and the modern day Furbys, (l think they came out in the 80's) when the batteries go flat, they or their eyes turn them into Zombie Furbys, (Liquid Crystal eyes).

But most animated toys go into Zombie mode when the batteries are at their end, pretty funny, but not for kids)?

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Karen Blundell 10 years ago

one of my favorite bands from the 80's:

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  Here are some more! :rolleyes:
  
  Pet Shop Boys - What Have I Done To Deserve This...
  
  Steve Winwood. "Higher Love" on Vimeo
  
  This probably won't show up, but it at least shows the actual video, not some cut and paste crap, TY Grrrrr!
  
  Queen - Radio Ga Ga - YouTube
  
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  Hmmmm, time to bring out the big guns! :p
  
  Huey Lewis And The News - Hip To Be Square -...
  
  Huey Lewis And The News - If This Is It - YouTube
  
  Huey Lewis And The News - The Heart Of Rock &...
  
  Huey Lewis And The News - I Want A New Drug -...
  
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KimW

10 years ago

The Big Guns huh?
OK!
(Sadly what I wanted to post mostly is 1979).

Graham Parker and the Rumour -- Endless Night -...

Graham Parker - Get Started, Start a Fire -...

Don't forget the 80s also brought us the mullet.

Henry Lee Summer - I Wish I Had A Girl - YouTube

The Hooters - And We Danced - YouTube

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tagiscom 10 years ago

Here are some more, Mwahahahaahhaha!

Daryl Hall & John Oates - I Can't Go For That (No...

Hall & Oates - Out of Touch (Music Video) -...

Hall and Oates - Private Eyes - YouTube

Wang Chung - Dance Hall Days - YouTube

Last one used 1930's first colorized film, well 1930 - 40! :rolleyes:

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  Can't forget Freddie's finest hour...
  
  Queen Live Aid Full Video HQ - YouTube
  
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10 years ago

PRiSM

Balance - Breaking Away - YouTube

Rocky Burnette - Tired of Toein' the Line. -...

Safety Dance - Men Without Hats Official Video -...

Golden earring - Twilight zone - YouTube

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KimW

10 years ago

There was a lot of dancing in the 80s.
Wang Chun Dance Hall Days;Men Without Hats,Safety Dance.
But one of the greatest bands ever also got into the act.

Come Dancing - The Kinks - YouTube

And yet some more 80s dancing.

GEN X - DANCING WITH MYSELF ** ORIGINAL 12"...

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by KimW

PRiSM

Balance - Breaking Away - YouTube

Rocky Burnette - Tired of Toein' the Line. - YouTube

Safety Dance - Men Without Hats Official Video - YouTube

Golden earring - Twilight zone - YouTube

Hmmmm, knew the midget would show up eventually! :rolleyes:

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Riptor 10 years ago

Our Bob, from one of my favourite all time albums... Disintegration

The Cure - Lovesong (Official Video) - YouTube

Michael, another talented guy that died far too young

Inxs - Mystify - YouTube

I know this has been played to death on here... but I don't care, because I love it.
It's just a fantastic performance by Ian Astbury.

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  Hmmm, have posted this before, but the video is so clever, and it is my thread so!!!! :rolleyes:
  
  Wang Chung - Everybody Have Fun Tonight - YouTube
  
  1986. :p
  
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