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FBI Director gets schooled

by ThomM
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The criminal prohibition of cannabis is an indefensible public policy position. Why can I say that? Just watch this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY0TQ...layer_embedded

It's been clear for quite some time that proponents of marijuana prohibition have nary a leg to stand on. When their position is scrutinized, even the least bit, it ends up collapsing like a house of cards. In this case, the look on FBI Director Robert Mueller's face two minutes and forty-three seconds into the video says it all. His empty rhetoric has failed and he has no more artillery left in his arsenal. He's been defeated and he knows it.
What's most amazing about this exchange is just how quickly it all unraveled. Faced with the job of defending a multi-billion dollar public policy -- one that's been in place for more than seven decades -- one of Washington, DC's top bureaucrats found himself looking for a place to hide in under three minutes. That's all the time it takes to destroy marijuana prohibition. As the public support in favor of legalization continues to grow, we can expect to see more and more defenders of prohibition squirm like Mr. Mueller. That is, if there are any public defenders still left to be found.

From Marijuana Law Reform - NORML
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    I wrote a big pro legalization paper in college and found out quite a few interesting things.

    Hemp (and marijuana) was actually a staple agricultural product for this country when it started. Many founding fathers had hemp crops. During wwII hemp was legalized for growth during war.

    Hemp was legalized (and technically still is legal) in the u.s. by way of the marijuana stamp tax act of 1937. The trick is you have to have a stamp to grow the plant, have to have the plant to get the stamp. show up with a plant to get the stamp, go to jail. you can still get the stamp today.

    Marijuana wasnt really the target of the fight to make it illegal.

    The man who made it illegal was also was a major shareholder in a company that would become Dupont. His name was harry anslinger. Dupont had just created nylon but couldnt bring it out on the market because hemp had everything locked down and why would people pay for what they can grow for free.

    Anslinger had worked his way up to FBI chief and made his son-in-law the head of a small department that would become the DEA and then stated on a slander campaign against weed.

    The first reasons for making it illegal were because it came across the border with the dirty mexicans. Then because black soldiers got uppity with white officers when they smoked it


    In reality, hemp can replace over 25,000 products on the market today that range from fuel, to medicines to food.

    There is absolutely no reason to make this plant illegal, cutting off a way for a lot of people to create income by growing it, except that chemical companies would lose a lot of money.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

      I wrote a big pro legalization paper in college and found out quite a few interesting things.

      Hemp (and marijuana) was actually a staple agricultural product for this country when it started. Many founding fathers had hemp crops. During wwII hemp was legalized for growth during war.

      Hemp was legalized (and technically still is legal) in the u.s. by way of the marijuana stamp tax act of 1937. The trick is you have to have a stamp to grow the plant, have to have the plant to get the stamp. show up with a plant to get the stamp, go to jail. you can still get the stamp today.

      Marijuana wasnt really the target of the fight to make it illegal.

      The man who made it illegal was also was a major shareholder in a company that would become Dupont. His name was harry anslinger. Dupont had just created nylon but couldnt bring it out on the market because hemp had everything locked down and why would people pay for what they can grow for free.

      Anslinger had worked his way up to FBI chief and made his son-in-law the head of a small department that would become the DEA and then stated on a slander campaign against weed.

      The first reasons for making it illegal were because it came across the border with the dirty mexicans. Then because black soldiers got uppity with white officers when they smoked it


      In reality, hemp can replace over 25,000 products on the market today that range from fuel, to medicines to food.

      There is absolutely no reason to make this plant illegal, cutting off a way for a lot of people to create income by growing it, except that chemical companies would lose a lot of money.
      You left out a few things, but that pretty much sums it up
      It was Hearst working with Dupont who got the ball rolling.
      Hearst had just purchased a million acres of timber land for his paper factories. At that same time this old German guy in South Carolina invented a machine that would separate the curd from the fiber of hemp stalks. This one machine would of revolutionized the whole hemp industry and made using wood pulp to make paper a thing of the past. Paper was made from hemp as it is a butt easy process after the curd and fiber are separated, in fact the only chemical needed to manufacture paper out of hemp curd is Hydrogen Peroxide to bleach the paper white.
      So anyways the old German guy, his machine, and the patent disappeared and suddenly Hearst is write newspaper article about blacks getting all uppity when they smoke marijuana and Mexicans raping white women after they smoke marijuana. Now where Hearst was smart was in calling it marijuana (I still hate that word and hate to use it). Back then in the US it was known as either Cannabis (Smoking and medicines) or Hemp (everything else). Marijuana is a Mexican slang word for cannabis that nobody in the US had heard before.

      So now you know some of the rest of the story, and yes there is much, much, more.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Yeah it'd be a shame to see deadly chemical companies have to switch over to producing earth-friendly products. Humans are too stupid not to go extinct.
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  • Profile picture of the author metafever
    I heard that California was considering legalizing Marijuana to help out with their budget problems.

    Has anyone else heard the same?
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by metafever View Post

      I heard that California was considering legalizing Marijuana to help out with their budget problems.

      Has anyone else heard the same?
      Yep they are the first to talk about it, but more will soon follow.
      The feds are testing the water though they won't admit it, you can see the signs.
      That started when Obama told the DEA not to arrest or prosecute anyone for medical cannabis in a state that has legalized it for medical use.
      Also the Supreme Court has just rejected a challenge to Cali's prop. 215
      California's medical marijuana law survived its most serious legal challenge Monday as the U.S. Supreme Court denied appeals by two counties that argued they were being forced to condone violations of federal drug laws.

      The justices, without comment, denied a hearing to officials from San Diego and San Bernardino counties who challenged Proposition 215, an initiative approved by state voters in 1996 that became a model for laws in 12 other states. It allows patients to use marijuana for medical conditions with their doctor's recommendation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Star69
    BOOM! Yes, he got schooled.

    "Name two people who have died from marijauana."

    "Uh, I can't." (Well, no shit!?!)

    "Milk, beer, bourbon..." That congressman needs to be reelected.

    Good example of how out of touch with reality many in government are when it comes to our so-called war on drugs...
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