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10 years ago

Yes seen that a few months ago. I loved it. Made me jump more than a few times. Bit of a disapointing ending I thought but really good spooky film overall.

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AprilCT 10 years ago

Hmmm, I think I'll just stick with comedies!
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David Braybrooke

10 years ago

Scarier because based on a true story. That ain't no true story I wanna get anywhere near!

Don't get too cosy HeySal cos the sequel's coming atcha soon! 'Conjuring 2' Gets a Release Date

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Claude Whitacre

10 years ago

Originally Posted by David Braybrooke

Scarier because based on a true story. That ain't no true story I wanna get anywhere near!

Don't get too cosy HeySal cos the sequel's coming atcha soon! 'Conjuring 2' Gets a Release Date

I love it when they say "Based on a true story". What that means is "Based on a story someone told someone else, and said was true".

I have a friend that is still convinced that "dramatic re-enactments" are the real event being filmed, and not just based on what was said.

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Richard Van

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I love it when they say "Based on a true story". What that means is "Based on a story someone told someone else, and said was true".

I think the word 'based' is fairly broad too.

Interestingly, these to paragraphs from Wiki stood out for me...

The book was written after Tam Mossman, an editor at the publishing house Prentice Hall, introduced George and Kathy Lutz to Jay Anson. The Lutzes did not work directly with Anson, but submitted around 45 hours of tape-recorded recollections to him, which were used as the basis of the book. Estimates of the sales of the book are around 10 million copies from its numerous editions. Anson is said to have based the title of The Amityville Horror on "The Dunwich Horror" by H. P. Lovecraft, which was published in 1929.

The various owners of the house since the Lutz family left in 1976 have reported no problems while living there. James Cromarty, who bought the house in 1977 and lived there with his wife Barbara for ten years, commented: "Nothing weird ever happened, except for people coming by because of the book and the movie."

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Kay King 10 years ago

I have a friend that is still convinced that "dramatic re-enactments" are the real event being filmed, and not just based on what was said.

I was shocked the first time I talked to someone like that -he was arguing "facts" of a case with someone else and I realized the man was basing his opinion on the re-enactment.

When the other person pointed out "those were actors" - the guy argued "they wouldn't be allowed to show that if it weren't true". Shake your head and keep walkin'.
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- Claude Whitacre 10 years ago
  
  To some people, these events are very real.
  
  If you hear voices, or noises, or see movement from no apparent source;
  Depending on your beliefs, they can be interpreted as many things. And some of them are pretty scary.
  
  I was talking to a childhood friend, (this is years ago) and she was telling me about her experience with an Ouija board. She was telling me that it flew across the room, and there was a loud sound..and she saw red eyes floating in the air.
  
  I asked a few more questions, and I realized that I was there (with 3 or 4 other kids). The only thing that happened out of the ordinary, was that her dad told us to stop laughing so hard, because he was on the phone.
  
  I decided not to mention that my experience was way different than what she was remembering years later.
  
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David Braybrooke

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I love it when they say "Based on a true story". What that means is "Based on a story someone told someone else, and said was true".

I have a friend that is still convinced that "dramatic re-enactments" are the real event being filmed, and not just based on what was said.

Based on a true story still means that subjectivity will likely come in to play. Ed and Lorraine Warren, the American paranormal investigators and authors portrayed in the film had a number of very unusual and unexplained experiences throughout their careers, by many accounts. I know the Science types on the forum may 'rubbish' or downplay the whole paranormal angle, but I for one am still challenged and puzzled by some of the events described in 'The Conjuring'.

Can science explain all mysteries and solve all problems? Nope. But the perceived arrogance of some scientific investigators will sometimes lead them to dismiss any experience that falls outside the boundaries of their 'superior understanding'.

Originally Posted by HeySal

Very strange occurrences do happen in real life. To be so skeptical as to think that wild things do not ever happen is not skepticism - it's completely closed minded. Figuring out why they happen is another story. Demons? Dimensional rifts? The particular person's imagination or an accidental ingestion of a chemical that produces hallucinations? Can we really be sure we know what is poppycock and what is a very solid real event? I'm not gonna try to judge that one. I haven't that much arrogance. In my lifetime, I've seen many "skeptics" shaken very hard by strange events that happen to them. It only takes a minute to completely change a belief system.

Strongly agreed with!

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HeySal

10 years ago

Originally Posted by David Braybrooke

Based on a true story still means that subjectivity will likely come in to play. Ed and Lorraine Warren, the American paranormal investigators and authors portrayed in the film had a number of very unusual and unexplained experiences throughout their careers, by many accounts. I know the Science types on the forum may 'rubbish' or downplay the whole paranormal angle, but I for one am still challenged and puzzled by some of the events described in 'The Conjuring'.

Can science explain all mysteries and solve all problems? Nope. But the arrogance of some scientific investigators will sometimes lead them to dismiss any experience that falls outside the boundaries of their 'superior understanding'.

Strongly agreed with!

Well, now you just sound nuts..........kinda like Dr Michio Kaku

:rolleyes:

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David Braybrooke

10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Well, now you just sound nuts..........kinda like Dr Michio Kaku

:rolleyes:

My Doctor seems to believe that I have a mild form of Schizophrenia, sometimes resulting in unclear reasoning. I do my best. If my forum opinions don't fully meet with your personal ideas and beliefs, feel free to comment, of course. All opinions welcomed.

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HeySal

10 years ago

Originally Posted by David Braybrooke

My Doctor seems to believe that I have a mild form of Schizophrenia, sometimes resulting in unclear reasoning. I do my best. If my forum opinions don't fully meet with your personal ideas and beliefs, feel free to comment, of course. All opinions welcomed.

Can science explain all mysteries and solve all problems? Nope. But the arrogance of some scientific investigators will sometimes lead them to dismiss any experience that falls outside the boundaries of their 'superior understanding'.

Um.....was being sarcastic. Michio Kaku is my favorite physicist. He has said pretty close to the same thing as your bottom quote here. Sorry to sound like that was "aimed" at ya. LMAO. But now that we know............we will use it to your disadvantage whenever convenient. :p

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HeySal

10 years ago

Sequel? I guess they found some sucker to buy the house, huh?

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Richard Van 10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Sequel? I guess they found some sucker to buy the house, huh?

Come on Sal, you must have seen all those Amityville Horror films? It's the same house.

The Amityville Horror - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Those old versions are still pretty scary. Conjuring is a good one though, fair play watching it alone Sal!
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Sumit Menon

10 years ago

Except for a couple of scenes, I didn't think the movie was scary at all. I like my horror stuff to have a basis in reality. Like the Saw series or being thrown in a pit full of snakes.

And how dumb are those people? If they knew there's a spirit trying to get them that shows up the same time every night, why would they sleep in separate rooms?

Some of my Christian (Catholic) friends were scared to death. They lost me at exorcism, however.

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HeySal

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Sumit Menon

Except for a couple of scenes, I didn't think the movie was scary at all. I like my horror stuff to have a basis in reality. Like the Saw series or being thrown in a pit full of snakes.

And how dumb are those people? If they knew there's a spirit trying to get them that shows up the same time every night, why would they sleep in separate rooms?

Some of my Christian (Catholic) friends were scared to death. They lost me at exorcism, however.

That's where you and I differ. I don't like "slasher" type horror fiction at all. I like a good story about the supernatural - Poltergeist, Omen, Fantasm, etc. To me it's the story that makes it good - not the truth value. I didn't know The Conjuring was based on a true story until it was mentioned in the thread. I just enjoyed the story. If I wanna see real life true scary crap and wildly bizarre forms of dementia, I can go downtown places like Detroit or Chicago. I watch movies to escape reality, not to observe it.

"Based on" can be pretty loose. Is it a fact or part of the screen play that events were so wild that the church would agree to an exorcism? Events have to be both verifiable and pretty intense for the church to step in. As for the interpretation of events, yeah, that varies from philosophy to philosophy.

Very strange occurrences do happen in real life. To be so skeptical as to think that wild things do not ever happen is not skepticism - it's completely closed minded. Figuring out why they happen is another story. Demons? Dimensional rifts? The particular person's imagination or an accidental ingestion of a chemical that produces hallucinations? Can we really be sure we know what is poppycock and what is a very solid real event? I'm not gonna try to judge that one. I haven't that much arrogance. In my lifetime, I've seen many "skeptics" shaken very hard by strange events that happen to them. It only takes a minute to completely change a belief system.

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SergioFelix

10 years ago

I watched the trailer a few days ago and that was enough for me to not be able to sleep right for about two days.

I still want to check it out though.