Bonobo Camp Fire Stories

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Watch as this bonobo not only makes a camp fire, but roasts marshmellows too...The bonobo's name is Kanzi and he lives at the Great Ape Trust in Des Moines, Iowa.


  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Thanks for this share. I love watching animals do things they aren't supposed to be smart enough to do.

    Our DNA is only 5% different from theirs. I also know a lot of people that can't build a fire to save their lives, LOL. Just a couple of random thoughts that went through my head watching that.
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Our DNA is only 5% different from theirs.
      I'd recall hearing that it was 3%, although that might have been just for one species (ie chimps). Nevertheless, your point about us being very similar is well made.
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    I think chimps and humans share even more DNA in common, over 98%. And bonobos share at least as much DNA with humans as chimps, maybe even slightly more.

    Being able to control fire was "supposed" to be a purely human thing. But this bonobo has shown he could learn to control and use fire.
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    • Profile picture of the author alistair
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      I think chimps and humans share even more DNA in common, over 98%. And bonobos share at least as much DNA with humans as chimps, maybe even slightly more.

      Being able to control fire was "supposed" to be a purely human thing. But this bonobo has shown he could learn to control and use fire.
      Yeah but it'd be screwed if it didn't have a box of matches. Being honest though, so would I. That Bonobs still more intelligent than my brother in law.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      I think chimps and humans share even more DNA in common, over 98%. And bonobos share at least as much DNA with humans as chimps, maybe even slightly more.

      Being able to control fire was "supposed" to be a purely human thing. But this bonobo has shown he could learn to control and use fire.
      Bonobo's share more DNA with humans than they share with the great apes. Same with chimpanzees. Bonobos are just the most social (If I remember correctly)

      It's right up there at 99% the same as humans. But remember, bananas share about 50% of our DNA.
      From WIKI;

      Chimpanzees now have to share the distinction of being our closest living relative in the animal kingdom. An international team of researchers has sequenced the genome of the bonobo for the first time, confirming that it shares the same percentage of its DNA with us as chimps do. The team also found some small but tantalizing differences in the genomes of the three species—differences that may explain how bonobos and chimpanzees don't look or act like us even though we share about 99% of our DNA.

      Here's a link;
      http://news.sciencemag.org/plants-an...uman-relatives
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Bonobo's share more DNA with humans than they share with apes. Same with chimpanzees. Bonobos are just the most social (If I remember correctly)

        It's right up there at 99% the same.
        So, what you're saying is that bonobos are more human than you. Duly noted.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          So, what you're saying is that bonobos are more human than you. Duly noted.
          That's just mean. "sniff" "sniff"

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          • Profile picture of the author HeySal
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            That's just mean. "sniff" "sniff"

            Remember, I just recuperated from a Sal Attack. I'm still weak and fragile.
            :confused: Attack? Holy cow - if that's what you call an "attack", you started out weak and fragile. :rolleyes:

            I think 5% is just what the figure is as a generalization. As far as "look" like us. Um..they actually do. Sure there are enough differences that we wouldn't get confused if one was walking down the street toward us in sunday dress and such - but we're not that different even visually when you consider the general list of lifeforms on this planet.
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        • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          Bonobo's share more DNA with humans than they share with the great apes. Same with chimpanzees. Bonobos are just the most social (If I remember correctly)


          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          So, what you're saying is that bonobos are more human than you. Duly noted.


          Lets just test that theory!


          Here we have a Bonobo.




          And here we have Claude.





          Do you notice the frontal lobe development in both images? The frontal lobes of the brain are associated with decision making and control of behavior





          Now if we super impose Claude on to the Bonobo, we have a 99.9% DNA match.






          All kidding aside, nice share Kurt.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Bonobo's share more DNA with humans than they share with the great apes. Same with chimpanzees. Bonobos are just the most social (If I remember correctly)

        It's right up there at 99% the same as humans. But remember, bananas share about 50% of our DNA.
        Chimps and bonobos ARE great apes, along with humans, gorillas and orangatans. Chimps and bonobos are closely related and share more DNA with each other than any of the other great apes.

        However, you are correct that chimps and bonobos share more DNA with humans than they do with gorrillas and orangatans, which means they are more closely related to us than gorillas and orangatans.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Chimps and bonobos ARE great apes, along with humans, gorillas and orangatans. Chimps and bonobos are closely related and share more DNA with each other than any of the other great apes.

          However, you are correct that chimps and bonobos share more DNA with humans than they do with gorrillas and orangatans, which means they are more closely related to us than gorillas and orangatans.
          I should have said "other great apes"
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    Good to see you back, Joseph. Haven't seen you around lately.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Monkey see, monkey do.

    Very interesting to me is that he has the concept of hot.

    I wonder what they talk about around the camp fire.
    I wonder if they play that game where one whispers
    something into the ear of the next and it ends up
    totally different at the end of the circle?
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      Monkey see, monkey do.

      Very interesting to me is that he has the concept of hot.

      I wonder what they talk about around the camp fire.
      I wonder if they play that game where one whispers
      something into the ear of the next and it ends up
      totally different at the end of the circle?
      No, but they do something similar. They start off with a banana. They pass it around the circle, and by the time it gets all the way around...it's a coconut.

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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        All things considered, I wonder if the Bonobo considers it a compliment or an insult when we tell other people to quit monkeying around? Hmmm...


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        • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          All things considered, I wonder if the Bonobo considers it a compliment or an insult when we tell other people to quit monkeying around? Hmmm...


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          Probably just mild confusion - similar to guys - when you tell them to stop whatever
          and they say, "I'm just being a guy".
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