What's more important to you - price or customer service?

by msdobe
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I went to Walmart yesterday... big mistake. I asked a clerk where.... was. He looked at me, then proceeded on like I was invisible. I found out he was helping another customer, but he never bothered to tell me that.

I can count on 1 hand the number of times a Walmart staff was able to help me (make that 2 fingers).

I would rate Walmart's customer service a 2 out of 10 (and that's being generous!!)

Compare that to Publix, the number one grocery store in the South. I would definitely rate them a 12 out of 10. Awesome is an understatement!

I would just like others opinions as to what's important to them - price or customer service.
  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    It depends on where we're talking about. For a Walmart or other cheap grocery stores I'm going for the price. I could care less about customer service. If I'm sitting in a restaurant or buying a car, then I'd expect some customer service.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    But while we're on the subject - one thing that would bring back customer service to places like these would be to allow their workers to accept tips. Walmarts don't allow their workers to accept tips.
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      But while we're on the subject - one thing that would bring back customer service to places like these would be to allow their workers to accept tips. Walmarts don't allow their workers to accept tips.
      A better idea would be to pay them a liveable wage in the first place.
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      • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
        Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

        A better idea would be to pay them a liveable wage in the first place.
        I so agree on this, having worked in a big store in the UK. I was a knowledgeable and relatively good salesman, knew about the electronics and could demonstrate them. Was able to give technical advice too.

        Yet, what they paid was pretty laughable. I enjoyed working in the store though, never a dull moment and was an exception to the general rule that usually applies.

        "If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys"

        Stores like Wal-Mart just pile em high and sell em cheap. Don't really care much about the customer service or advisors.

        Just imagine though if they reduced their massive profits and greed a bit, paid their staff well, treated them well and trained them well. What a wonderful experience it would be for all of us.
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        • Profile picture of the author garyv
          Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

          I so agree on this, having worked in a big store in the UK. I was a knowledgeable and relatively good salesman, knew about the electronics and could demonstrate them. Was able to give technical advice too.

          Yet, what they paid was pretty laughable. I enjoyed working in the store though, never a dull moment and was an exception to the general rule that usually applies.

          "If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys"

          Stores like Wal-Mart just pile em high and sell em cheap. Don't really care much about the customer service or advisors.

          Just imagine though if they reduced their massive profits and greed a bit, paid their staff well, treated them well and trained them well. What a wonderful experience it would be for all of us.
          We had that, it was called JC Penney. They're going out of business.

          In a bad economy, unfortunately customer service is a secondary concern to prices.
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          • Originally Posted by msdobe View Post

            Compare that to Publix, the number one grocery store in the South. I would definitely rate them a 12 out of 10. Awesome is an understatement!

            I would just like others opinions as to what's important to them - price or customer service.
            Geez, I love Publix. Though they can be expensive if you don't take advantage of their weekly deals.

            Originally Posted by garyv View Post

            We had that, it was called JC Penney. They're going out of business.

            In a bad economy, unfortunately customer service is a secondary concern to prices.
            I don't think JC Penney would be a good example and either way, it's just one store. A store that thrived for years and is failing mostly do to their lack of understanding of their market, for the record.

            Trader Joe's has prices that rival Wal-Mart's and their employees are some of the nicest I've encountered and have told me they're treated extremely well. Considering that chain is constantly expanding, I'm assuming they're doing ok.

            Chic-fil-A is doing quite well and you can bet that has something to do with their excellent service standard. Starbucks built their empire on customer service. That's why people go there despite their lackluster coffee and high prices. Amazon, anyone?

            In a bad economy, many people will look for the best value for their money.
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by garyv View Post

            In a bad economy, unfortunately customer service is a secondary concern to prices.
            In a bad economy though, wouldn't it be good to think outside the box and focus on customer service as well?

            It's almost free and by all accounts, customers will see it and you'll stand out from the crowd.

            If everyone was focused on price, I'd want to focus on price and customer service. I'm not convinced with the right people running things that you have to sacrifice either of them.
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
              Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

              In a bad economy though, wouldn't it be good to think outside the box and focus on customer service as well?

              It's almost free and by all accounts, customers will see it and you'll stand out from the crowd.

              If everyone was focused on price, I'd want to focus on price and customer service. I'm not convinced with the right people running things that you have to sacrifice either of them.
              Just yesterday I had a guy come to my house to quote replacing my driveway and we talked about pricing and service. I told him I don't necessarily go cheapest price. Much depends on the people I am talking to. Do they offer more for their price? Do they have a better warranty? Do they treat me like an idiot? Do they respond to a phone call?

              There are many factors, but I can also say that financially, I am in a position to consider other factors. Those on tighter budgets have to decide on price (which was me for years).

              I remember about 22 years ago I worked for an equipment manufacturer. They held like 80% of their market. Then in the early 90s things got bad for them. Sales plummeted (for various reasons). So, during these times they changed their focus to customer service - after sales service, upgrades, etc. I believe it saved their business. So yes - customer service is very important.
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              • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                If you are in Walmart - you've already made your choice of price over service.
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    • Profile picture of the author msdobe
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      But while we're on the subject - one thing that would bring back customer service to places like these would be to allow their workers to accept tips. Walmarts don't allow their workers to accept tips.
      Neither does Publix, and their customer service is top rate!
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    I would say BOTH! Customer service AND price! At times, I have INTENTIONALLY paid TWICE the price because customer service STUNK elsewhere. F...s is a good example. Rather than learning how to work with 1970s technology. In the 1970s, they found a way to create faster/smaller components, but it is more sensitive to static. At their current rate, they may NEVER find a satisfactory replacement. HECK, we are into 2014 and NEW circuits being designed have the SAME "problems"!

    SO, instead of learning the RIDICULOUSLY simple precautions, they will bad mouth "OEM" memory, etc... So then I go someplace else and buy better memory. Either name brand, or OEM. Funny thing! They STILL haven't come across with a proper retort to why companies like IBM, INTEL, APPLE, TOSHIBA, NEC, Etc... reliably use OEM parts, or why they seem to be the only ones that have problems with it.

    STILL, if there are two places with the same customer service, I will often go the cheaper way.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    To read this thread you'd think the customer service at every Walmart was the same. Apparently that's not the case, because the workers here are both helpful and friendly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      To read this thread you'd think the customer service at every Walmart was the same. Apparently that's not the case, because the workers here are both helpful and friendly.
      Thanks for bringing that up. Yeah, the Walmart here has helpful employees. I've never had one be rude or not at least try to help.

      Surveys of shoppers consistently put Selection, Service, and Trust above the lowest price.

      We think most people are price shoppers, because most of us are price shoppers. But for every person in the US that is simply looking for the best price, there are two that are looking for a fair price, but are more interested in service and selection.

      Walmart has good prices, but if they had a poor selection, or it was hard to find what you wanted...they wouldn't be doing as well as they are.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Thanks for bringing that up. Yeah, the Walmart here has helpful employees. I've never had one be rude or not at least try to help.

        Surveys of shoppers consistently put Selection, Service, and Trust above the lowest price.

        We think most people are price shoppers, because most of us are price shoppers. But for every person in the US that is simply looking for the best price, there are two that are looking for a fair price, but are more interested in service and selection.

        Walmart has good prices, but if they had a poor selection, or it was hard to find what you wanted...they wouldn't be doing as well as they are.
        Same with the Walmart here by me. Never had an issue with service or the employees. But interestingly, this store has a bigger issue - the patrons.

        The customers I have seen at this store are rude to employees, mess up displays, drop stuff on the floor and don't pick them up, have unruly kids run around all over the place...

        There's another Walmart about 10 miles up the road and they don't have this issue.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

          Same with the Walmart here by me. Never had an issue with service or the employees. But interestingly, this store has a bigger issue - the patrons.

          The customers I have seen at this store are rude to employees, mess up displays, drop stuff on the floor and don't pick them up, have unruly kids run around all over the place...

          There's another Walmart about 10 miles up the road and they don't have this issue.
          That's a good point. I know a guy that buys retail stores, that are run into the ground, builds them up to a boutique...and then sells them.
          he says that the customers change along with the store. Dirt bags just aren't comfortable shopping at higher end stores.

          Bargain shoppers generally don't come to my store. And I'm not the lowest price. Hell, Riffle came in one day and bought a vacuum cleaner from me for $1,200...that he could have bought at any other store for under $300.
          Above my counter, I have a large sign that says "Buy And Then Get Out!"

          (The last paragraph was a joke)
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          • Profile picture of the author Kurt
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            That's a good point. I know a guy that buys retail stores, that are run into the ground, builds them up to a boutique...and then sells them.
            he says that the customers change along with the store. Dirt bags just aren't comfortable shopping at higher end stores.

            Bargain shoppers generally don't come to my store. And I'm not the lowest price. Hell, Riffle came in one day and bought a vacuum cleaner from me for $1,200...that he could have bought at any other store for under $300.
            Above my counter, I have a large sign that says "Buy And Then Get Out!"

            (The last paragraph was a joke)
            You'd think a vacuum cleaner store would be full of dirt bags?
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              You'd think a vacuum cleaner store would be full of dirt bags?
              I don't get it.
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              • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                I don't get it.
                What you sell disposable Diapers too?

                Ahh yes, seen the ads, The Dyson Diaper

                One of the few items you refuse to demonstrate!
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                • Profile picture of the author Kurt
                  Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                  You'd think a vacuum cleaner store would be full of dirt bags?
                  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                  I don't get it.
                  A vacuum cleaner store is a store that sells vacuum cleaners.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                    Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                    A vacuum cleaner store is a store that sells vacuum cleaners.
                    You may not believe this, but every week or so I get this call;
                    "Hi. Is this the Sweeper Store? Do you sell vacuum cleaners?"

                    One lady was walking through our store, looking at our vacuums. She said "Are these vacuum cleaners for sale?"

                    I said "No Ma'am, these are part of my private collection".

                    That really happened. I couldn't help myself.

                    A lady also once said "I'm just here checking prices", and I said "No need Ma'am...I checked them all this morning. They're all correct".

                    Nobody ever buys from me. :rolleyes:
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                    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                      You may not believe this, but every week or so I get this call;
                      "Hi. Is this the Sweeper Store? Do you sell vacuum cleaners?"

                      One lady was walking through our store, looking at our vacuums. She said "Are these vacuum cleaners for sale?"

                      I said "No Ma'am, these are part of my private collection".

                      That really happened. I couldn't help myself.

                      A lady also once said "I'm just here checking prices", and I said "No need Ma'am...I checked them all this morning. They're all correct".

                      Nobody ever buys from me. :rolleyes:
                      Since when did you give up selling Mine Sweepers?
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                      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                        Since when did you give up selling Mine Sweepers?
                        Did you know that in Ohio, everyone calls vacuum cleaners "sweepers"?

                        When I'm out of state, and people ask about my retail business, I have to remember to say "we sell vacuum cleaners". I've heard, that in England, they are called Hoovers...meaning the word Hoover is used to mean all vacuum cleaners.

                        And nothing is more fascinating than discussing vacuum cleaners...absolutely nothing.

                        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                        There comes a point in time that you're just plain entitled, ya know? LOL.
                        I'm always amazed at how seldom anyone gets offended by my teasing them.

                        I say some smart ass thing like this maybe once a year. It isn't that often.
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                        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                          Did you know that in Ohio, everyone calls vacuum cleaners "sweepers"?

                          When I'm out of state, and people ask about my retail business, I have to remember to say "we sell vacuum cleaners". I've heard, that in England, they are called Hoovers...meaning the word Hoover is used to mean all vacuum cleaners.

                          And nothing is more fascinating than discussing vacuum cleaners...absolutely nothing.



                          I'm always amazed at how seldom anyone gets offended by my teasing them.

                          I say some smart ass thing like this maybe once a year. It isn't that often.
                          Your right Theirs nothing like having a chin wag about a J Edgar, nothing
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                    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                      You may not believe this, but every week or so I get this call;
                      "Hi. Is this the Sweeper Store? Do you sell vacuum cleaners?"

                      One lady was walking through our store, looking at our vacuums. She said "Are these vacuum cleaners for sale?"

                      I said "No Ma'am, these are part of my private collection".

                      That really happened. I couldn't help myself.
                      There comes a point in time that you're just plain entitled, ya know? LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    I think your score of 0 out of 10 is too low. What about instead of ignoring you, they insult you instead by shouting e.g. "it's right there, can't you read?" or "We are too busy, be patient or go elsewhere!".

    This is the sort of stuff we commonly in Hong Kong. I think most people here choose price over service and it show. If you want some examples of Hong Kong styled service, you can read up stories about the "Wong Kei" restaurant or "Edsel Ford Fong" through Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

      This is the sort of stuff we commonly in Hong Kong. I think most people here choose price over service and it show. If you want some examples of Hong Kong styled service, you can read up stories about the "Wong Kei" restaurant or "Edsel Ford Fong" through Google.
      That's very interesting. Considered London's rudest restaurant. Closed down and coming back without the rudeness.

      Goodbye to the rudest restaurant in London - Wong Kei is finally ditching the bad attitude | Life and style | The Guardian

      Looks like service is more important here.

      Mind you, I bet the foods nice.
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      • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        That's very interesting. Considered London's rudest restaurant. Closed down and coming back without the rudeness.

        Goodbye to the rudest restaurant in London - Wong Kei is finally ditching the bad attitude | Life and style | The Guardian

        Looks like service is more important here.

        Mind you, I bet the foods nice.
        I have written about it here before. If you haven't been there before, you have really missed out something. I used to go there all the time when I was student in London. I enjoyed seeing people's reactions as they got abused.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...tml#post701281

        Paris Talk: Wong Kei London

        "Some people tell me how rude waiters in Paris are I tell them that's nothing they should try Wong Kei's in London's Wardour Street. It's become a London institution not for its food but rather for the abusive staff to such an extent that people go there just to experience the rudeness of the waiters. It's one of the must-do things to tick off the list on your trip to the capital; visit the British Museum, have your photo taken in Trafalgar Square and get insulted by the watiers at Wong Kei's." The above is surely an ultimate accolade for this restaurant!

        "Friends of mine have got off far worse. Someone once complained that the food they had ordered was taking rather a long time to arrive. "If you want fast food go to McDonald's". No arguing with that. And I heard the story of an elderly woman finding it hard to walk asked to sit downstairs rather than upstairs the waiter replied. "This is a restaurant not a hospital"." Any one I have heard was that when asked for a table with a view, the reply was "You want a view, go to Buckingham Palace!

        Wong Kei - London's Rudest Restaurant
        Reviews on Wong Kei Look at tests, reports and read reviews: dooyoo.co.uk

        Customers get shouted, and cursed at and sometime even thrown out just for little things like asking for a set of knife and fork. If you are lucky, you may even see a customer threatened with a chopper! It was really funny seeing the reaction of unsuspecting American and European tourists when they get insulted badly. All in all, a great evening's entertainment!

        It is a great tourist institution that does London and the UK proud!
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Well I'm going I just hope they haven't cleaned up their act too much.

          Sounds absolutely hilarious, especially now I know what it's about, I might even stand outside and try and drag some tourists in to watch them.

          Thank you Derek.
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  • Profile picture of the author seomaster5
    both are important price is important for the shopkeeper or seller but on the other hand he/she should take care of customers. Some customers just try to waster the time to ask pricing and in window shopping. This is annyoning for dealer and some shopkeepers are really lazy they just dont care what customer is saying they tottaly avoid there customers so it depends on circumstances. In your case it seems he avoided you so better to move from this shop to another.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    WalMart fills a need for sure. At the one nearest to me, more wealthy
    people started going there when the economy slowed.

    For good service at this WalMart, and I suspect many others,
    the trick is to go when the long timers are working. Find out
    their schedules. There is a core of employees who started
    before WalMart minimized employee numbers and did the
    you-work-part time-whenever-we-say thing.

    For other than day to day things, I look for value. Right now,
    I might be deciding between a tested but used automotive
    transmission for $900 with a five year warranty, or one that
    has been completely refurbished for $1200 and only has a
    30 day warranty, or one done by a shop I decide upon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Thinking about it, there really are a lot of variables and different situations at play.

      It's awful really but I just went through a ton of situations trying to think about it and somehow I got to brothels. I thought of Dan and Claude briefly and realised I'm out of my depths.

      In that light, it depends what's left after beer. Some nights price, other nights, customer service. Sometimes a mix of both?

      That's just one of many variables of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    We don't have a Publix here but we have Trader Joe's and I agree that they're pretty awesome on price. The staff is friendly, too, but they don't seem that knowledgeable about their products and that one kinda gets me. I realize they're not going to know every product in their store but I expected them to know more than they did when I started shopping there.

    I only go to Walmart to get one or two things that are outrageously priced or hard to find that I use on a continual basis. The employees are fine, but not too bright sometimes. The real problem for me with Walmart (as far as the shopping experience) is that the management will allow lines to back-up so far. They need to stop being so greedy that they expect customers to wait in lines for a half hour and 45 minutes. Is it going to crash their bottom line to put on one or two more checkers when it's busy?

    It was a 45 minute wait in line for something I had to have that put me out their doors in the first place -- however, I now only go in there out of necessity for my couple of items and I only go in late at night when the store isn't busy. Since the lines are my major problem with the place when I go in, I go when not too many others are there.

    Generally - I really have to go with prices these days. When I can afford to choose or if I have a choice between where I get a service/product at generally the same price, I go with service. One thing I always make sure of, though - if I can't get American customer service on the phone if I need help, I don't care what their price is, it's too high.
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  • Profile picture of the author dougb
    Our Walmart the employees are very senior overall, most of them appear to be just taking up space, there are a select few that will always go over and above to help.

    For me going into Walmart I go in for prices. You know in advance that there is no investment in their staff, it's pile em high watch em fly attitude.
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  • Profile picture of the author hlew
    Customer service is very important to me. I would rather go to a small business where you are treated as a person and am able to help you any way they can. It concludes in a sale for this establishment.
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  • Profile picture of the author ErinWalsh
    If I just want cheap I'll bite the bullet and go to Wal-Mart. If I know I'm going to have questions, or going out to eat I'll shop where I know there's customer service.
    Example: I go furniture shopping at those Mom and Pop stores because they have better customer service than large stores. Every time. If I have something specific in mind, they'll happily order it for me. Their prices are usually reasonable too. Maybe not as low as the large stores, but I'd rather have the good customer service experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I stopped shopping Petsmart because they had
    annoying dog food manufacturer reps that would
    not leave me alone.

    The final straw was that corporate HQ controls
    their cash registers to control payroll. I was in a
    store about a half hour before closing time and a
    line of about 10 formed at the only open register.

    I noticed the manager stocking shelves nearby
    and asked if he could open another register. He could
    not because corporate closed the other registers.

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