Google Accused Of Stealing Money From AdSense Publishers

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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    I had my adsense account banned round about that time for no apparent reason, was only earning around $200.00 a month too. What bugs me is that the people who pay for the ads to appear get their ads clicked on and usually the sites that they are auto served too are about the subject that people are interested in. I had a site called coveruptattoos.com for example and the ads were all about tattoos removal or disguising them so they were always on topic.

    Aside from that, the people who bid on the keywords to get the ads seen, they got the visits they wanted, Google paid a percentage to the publishers and profited from the rest. How could Google lose money.

    So what happened, did the people who paid for the ads complain and say they were not getting quality traffic and sales and ask for their money back, or just drop out of allowing ads to appear on sites using adsense?. These ads come up on Google based on all sorts of search terms and results.

    The more Google's reach to display their ads on other sites, the better, surely?

    Could someone explain their reasoning please?
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  • Profile picture of the author test11223344
    While I agree it's out of hand how often this happens, the whole story sounds fake and like some bad Bond villain-esque stuff with that former employee's story.

    Real? Probably not. Has Googled pocketed a fortune from not paying out publishers? Of course.
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    • Profile picture of the author Unity96387
      Does anyone else have an adsense true story that turned out to be bad for you?
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  • Profile picture of the author dsimms
    sounds familer when I had an adsense account that had reached $100 or
    so getting email stating your banned, never heard from adsense again,
    and never seen the $100 (duh, they kept it...) never thought of them much after that...
    I also stopped using adwords, and have never used them since....
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    • Profile picture of the author Unity96387
      Anyone else have a true story?
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        I remember when that came out last spring - there was one problem. The person making the claim had no proof of any wrong doing on Google's part.

        I've used adsense almost since it's launch - with good money paid to me - and no problems. I'm extremely careful to stay well within the rules.

        If you don't trust google - don't use adsense.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          I remember when that came out last spring - there was one problem. The person making the claim had no proof of any wrong doing on Google's part.
          That was probably about the time this thread was started before the OP bumped it.
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          • Profile picture of the author waterotter
            Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

            That was probably about the time this thread was started before the OP bumped it.
            ......then bumped it, again.
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      • Profile picture of the author ThomM
        Originally Posted by Unity96387 View Post

        Anyone else have a true story?
        A few years ago I had a problem with adsense. I had around $98 in my account when someone clicked multiple times on an ad on one of my sites. Google sent me an email saying I was the one doing the fraudulent clicks. I was able to prove it wasn't me and they reinstated my account, but took all the money out of it. So for what amounted to around $5 of fraudulent clicks they took $98 of legitimate clicks away from me. I canceled my adsense account and told them to stick it where the sun don't shine.
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        • Profile picture of the author Gijsbertus
          Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

          A few years ago I had a problem with adsense. I had around $98 in my account when someone clicked multiple times on an ad on one of my sites. Google sent me an email saying I was the one doing the fraudulent clicks. I was able to prove it wasn't me and they reinstated my account, but took all the money out of it. So for what amounted to around $5 of fraudulent clicks they took $98 of legitimate clicks away from me. I canceled my adsense account and told them to stick it where the sun don't shine.
          Right on !!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gasen
    My account was "disabled" back then. I appealed and G's auto response was "Your site is deemed to pose a possible future risk to advertisers". My traffic was from social sites (bookmarks). Content was "injury lawyer" articles. Earnings were an average of $1000-00 pm.
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    • Profile picture of the author Unity96387
      Even more light is being shed on darkness. This came from Web Pro News in an email today:

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      This Guy Says Google Took Away $46K In AdSense Earnings, And He Doesn't Know Why August 19, 2014

      WebProNews - Breaking News in Tech, Search, Social, & Business ================================================== ==================== ================================================== ====================

      By: Chris Crum | Staff Writer

      It's not uncommon to hear about an over-dependence on Google costing people big money. There have been plenty of tales of businesses losing all their search visibility after Google algorithm changes. In some cases, people have lost their jobs. In even worse cases, businesses have had to fold or completely change course. Sometimes people get burned by Google in other ways. Sometimes it's their own fault, but it's not always black and white. One guy just lost nearly $50,000 after Google decided his site didn't comply with its AdSense rules, though the company had recently praised the job he was doing. Do you think Google sends mixed messages about its guidelines? Let us know in the comments. This Guy Says Google Took Away $46K In AdSense Earnings, And He Doesn’t Know Why | WebProNews Jim Edwards at Business Insider tells the story of Idris Sami, a 19-year-old entrepreneur, who runs a site called MesTextos, which offers a messaging service for French speakers. His site was doing so well, the story goes, that by December, Sami's Google account hit $46,000 because so many people were clicking on the AdSense ads that appeared on the site. Then, Google canceled his account, and returned all of that money to advertisers. Sami is now banned from Google ad services. Edwards reports: In an email Google sent to Sami, Google says MesTextos was incentivizing or forcing people to click on ads to use the site, which is against the rules; Sami denies that. He says two different Google sales staff praised his revenue-generating efforts and, in separate emails, offered to help optimize his site to improve its performance. He says he wasn't warned there was something wrong with his site until it was too late. The report includes screenshots of the emails, which are in French. It also has a generic statement from a Google spokesperson, who wouldn't comment on this particular case: ... we always send a note to the publisher explaining which policy was in question and, in many cases, give them a chance to make changes to their pages to keep the account in good standing. Publishers are also given an opportunity to appeal policy decisions. According to the report, the ban came less than two weeks after Google sent Sami an email offering to help him boost his revenues. He claims to have spoken with the company, and that they told him "everything was good." He also claims to have "begged and pleaded with Google," but is unable to figure out what Google thinks is wrong with the site. And that could be the real problem here. If Google is going to take away nearly fifty grand from someone because they were in violation of some rule, shouldn't that person at least have an understanding of what they actually did wrong? That's a lot of money. Weirdly, the BI report says Sami's site has an ad that requires a click before you can use it, which it says was what Google said was wrong with the site, but that Sami claims not to have even put such an ad there until after Google cut him off and he lost revenue. Whether or not Sami was in the wrong, Google seems to have been sending a mixed message, as it has been known to do about certain things. The company allegedly told him everything was good, and then banned him, and took away a huge sum of money a couple weeks later, and he doesn't even know why (again, allegedly). Google likes to say that it's transparent about things, and it is about some things, but recently, it seems to be getting less transparent about others. At best, Google's reputation for transparency is a controversial one. Sami's story also comes a few months after Google was making headlines for alleged business practices related to AdSense. As you may recall, someone claiming to be a former Google employee posted two very detailed explanations about how Google was stealing money from publishers by banning their accounts just ahead of payouts. The claims have been mostly written off as conspiracy theory in the press ?€? Edwards even mentions it in his report, saying the theory has "giant hole" in that Google makes money only when it delivers ads, so banning successful sites would make it "poorer". Still, a lot of people on the Internet spoke out after those claims, suggesting they seemed to jibe completely with their own experiences. Later, a class action suit was filed against Google making similar claims, but without relying on the allegations from the alleged former Googler. That person, however, said they had plenty of evidence to provide should they be called upon to do so. Look, people have been accusing Google of all kinds of shady stuff for years, and much of it goes unproven or even disproven. Other times, the government intervenes, and Google pays penalties. In the case of Sami, we just don't know all the facts about what happened, and it's just one man's version of the story. Google could be a little more "transparent' and comment on the situation. They could at the very least make clear why this guy lost so much money. If he's made it a public case, why not come out and comment directly on it? If it's because he messed up (which it may very well be), just explain. Do you think this guy has a legitimate beef with Google? Is Google transparent enough when it comes to banning accounts? Let us know what you think. This Guy Says Google Took Away $46K In AdSense Earnings, And He Doesn’t Know Why | WebProNews
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King

        Trying to figure out how on earth you would earn $46k on ads on that site....

        Google isn't going to respond to the complaint - unless he goes to court and makes it legal (i.e., documents it).
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        • Profile picture of the author msdobe
          My adsense account was banned and have no idea why. I had made no changes in years, then when I went to log in I found out it was deactivated. I was making next to nothing so it was really no big deal... until now.

          I have an admob account (several, actually) and Google is updating admob the end of this month. To update you have to have an adsense account, so that's the end of my admob earings. It was finally getting to around $300/month, but kept going up steadily, so I'm really PO'd.

          The end of this month I'm going in and deleting all my apps. Have no idea what will happen to them if I don't delete them, but no way in hell am I going to leave them there and give Google a chance to profit off my work.

          And when you think of all the people whose adsense account was deactivated, the people with admob accounts, I'm sure there's a ton of them who are in the same boat.

          I actually loved making apps and spent two solid months working only on apps night and day. But I heard people kept getting their account closed so I stopped making them - figured this day would come.

          Totally Ticked....
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          • Profile picture of the author Unity96387
            Anyone have any more updates or thefts to report?
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            • Profile picture of the author yukon
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              Originally Posted by Unity96387 View Post

              Anyone have any more updates or thefts to report?
              My watch is missing.
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            • Profile picture of the author Cali16
              Originally Posted by Unity96387 View Post

              Anyone have any more updates or thefts to report?
              The thread died a year ago. Maybe it's time to let it go...
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    It is VERY hard to prove a case of wrongdoing on things like this. For a LOT of reasons a lot of these sites have cookies, and datastreams, to pass this info, and they have them in ways that expire. Companies and websites freely do things like strip cookies, WITHOUT WARNING! At one pont, for example, they disabled 3rd party cookies on ALL browsers, unless the 3rd party page had a PPP file! And connections break all the time and may cause cookies to be dropped. This means that they may never get, or retain, the info. And delayed reporting, and filtering, hurts the ability to check ALSO.

    As for the idea of advertising tattoo removal on a tattoo removal site? They simply have NO logic to handle such things. If someone queries about tattoos, or hits such a site they are on, the visitor may suddenly see a lot of ads about tattoos on every related site. EVEN if they go to that page and BUY, the ads for that site may STILL show.

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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Lol, this thread is a year old & OP keeps bumping with the same one liner.
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