Seriously? No 'Quick Reply' and a recaptcha thing

10 years ago

It's a hard captcha - hard to tell how many of the numbers are supposed to be used - spaces, etc.

Seems to be throughout the WF now so hoping it's temporary to stop the spam bots until filters can be applied.

I wondered if there's a way to apply the captcha only to new members or to those with less than 20 posts, etc. Probably not.

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tagiscom 10 years ago

Yep, hope it is temp, it really sucks having to do this every time! :rolleyes:

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AprilCT

10 years ago

Sure is a pain in the butt. If they were to apply a filter, it would surely need to be more than just 20 posts. Let's just hope they can get everything situated where it can be just dropped completely.

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thunderbird

10 years ago

That recapcha is tricky, having to combine numbers in two different images.

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Kay King

10 years ago

People will do it once or twice and then posts will decline.

I said "20 posts" because the wave of spam earlier was all new bot traffic and those with 0-3 posts.

Maybe they need to cap it for a while until they get a handle on it - I know the search (past posts, etc) still isn't working and doesn't seem to be rebuilding so I'm sure the new owners have some glitches to work on.

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Claude Whitacre

10 years ago

I hope the Captchas don't cause people to stop posting.

There are too many people here who don't know what I think about every single subject in the universe.

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kenmichaels 10 years ago

Whats the point of captcha's anymore any way ?

The bots use API's to send the image to a human who decodes
it and sends it back to the bot who can then post.

An entire industry has been built on the premise.

IMO the captcha is just going to piss of the regulars.

A thought - tie it to the sig deal ... what is it 50 posts before
you can add a sig? well use that plug in to also allow
anyone with MORE then 50 posts to NOT see captcha.

Just a thought on the matter.

Here is another one.
Add a HIDDEN forum. the bots will parse the
html and enter the forum. when that happens Auto ban them
and delete any posts that it might have made.

Trust me ... it works really, really well.
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bizgrower

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I hope the Captchas don't cause people to stop posting.

There are too many people here who don't know what I think about every single subject in the universe.

I was going to say there are many who don't want to know, but you have me laughing too hard.

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Maybe they could graduate the Captcha based upon how long somebody
has been a member and then be asked to do it once at log in.

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BigFrank Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by bizgrower

I was going to say there are many who don't want to know, but you have me laughing too hard.

Actually, there are a few of us that do know and we are laughing the hardest of all.

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thunderbird

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I hope the Captchas don't cause people to stop posting.

There are too many people here who don't know what I think about every single subject in the universe.

I'm pretty sure I first heard of you when I watched a video of a Kirby vacuum cleaner presentation to enlist sales reps. They said that there was one guy who sold vacuum cleaners to every home on a city block (you?).

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kenmichaels

10 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

I'm pretty sure I first heard of you when I watched a video of a Kirby vacuum cleaner presentation to enlist sales reps. They said that there was one guy who sold vacuum cleaners to every home on a city block (you?).

He doesn't sell those crappy Kirbies

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Dennis Gaskill 10 years ago

Originally Posted by kenmichaels

He doesn't sell those crappy Kirbies

Now that makes me curious . . . Claude, what brand do you sell?

Oh yeah, and, can I get a review copy?
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Claude Whitacre

10 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

I'm pretty sure I first heard of you when I watched a video of a Kirby vacuum cleaner presentation to enlist sales reps. They said that there was one guy who sold vacuum cleaners to every home on a city block (you?).

If you're serious...
Probably not. In home vacuum cleaners sales organizations have a habit of exaggerating their sales results.

I wasn't selling Kirby's at the time, but I have two streets in my area where every home on both streets bought. If they said it was a Kirby guy, then it wasn't me.

For the last 12 years (except this year) I was a paid speaker at the national Vacuum Dealer Trade Association convention. And about 8 years ago, I was the Keynote speaker.

I haven't sold in people's homes for maybe ten years. But at the conventions, I still hear "That's him..that's the guy".

I'm in the early stages of writing a book titled Door To Door. For 30 years, I had quite an adventure.

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Now that makes me curious . . . Claude, what brand do you sell?

Oh yeah, and, can I get a review copy?

Now, I own a retail store that sells several brands. But when selling in people's homes, it was (roughly) Kirby...1 year. Tri-Star....30 years. Rainbow..2 years. Thermax (Like a Rainbow) for 5 years. (Ohio State Distributor.)

I took a sampling of my sales figures, and estimated (plus or minus 1%) that I sold 7,231 vacuum cleaners in people's homes. I'm doing that from memory, but I know it was more than 7,200.

Every once in a while, I get a twitch to go back into selling in people's homes. But I don't really need to money, or the experience of carrying 50 pounds of boxes. But it might be fun for a week.

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kenmichaels

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I took a sampling of my sales figures, and estimated (plus or minus 1%) that I sold 7,231 vacuum cleaners in people's homes. I'm doing that from memory, but I know it was more than 7,200.

That is impressive.

If i did the quickie math right that's an average 1.5 sales a day.

Damn impressive.

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HeySal

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

If you're serious...
Probably not. In home vacuum cleaners sales organizations have a habit of exaggerating their sales results.

I wasn't selling Kirby's at the time, but I have two streets in my area where every home on both streets bought. If they said it was a Kirby guy, then it wasn't me.

For the last 12 years (except this year) I was a paid speaker at the national Vacuum Dealer Trade Association convention. And about 8 years ago, I was the Keynote speaker.

I haven't sold in people's homes for maybe ten years. But at the conventions, I still hear "That's him..that's the guy".

I'm in the early stages of writing a book titled Door To Door. For 30 years, I had quite an adventure.

Now, I own a retail store that sells several brands. But when selling in people's homes, it was (roughly) Kirby...1 year. Tri-Star....30 years. Rainbow..2 years. Thermax (Like a Rainbow) for 5 years. (Ohio State Distributor.)

I took a sampling of my sales figures, and estimated (plus or minus 1%) that I sold 7,231 vacuum cleaners in people's homes. I'm doing that from memory, but I know it was more than 7,200.

Every once in a while, I get a twitch to go back into selling in people's homes. But I don't really need to money, or the experience of carrying 50 pounds of boxes. But it might be fun for a week.

I'm impressed. I think selling door to door would be some of the worst torture in the world. Interesting that some people actually LIKE it. You're record says you really like what you were doing.

Hey Ken - I'm headed over to your place. It's time to check out some new digs.

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thunderbird

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

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I'm in the early stages of writing a book titled Door To Door. For 30 years, I had quite an adventure.<snip>.

I'll definitely want read it when it's published. It sounds like a story I'd enjoy reading.

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

I'll definitely want read it when it's published. It sounds like a story I'd enjoy reading.

Liar Claude, l found it on Amazon!

But this is a poem version, so....:rolleyes:

I have to admit the Skull is a bit of a worry, and the index...

INDEX

Chapter one.........Life Sucks!
Chapter two.........Life is like a box of Replacement vacumn bags, don't ask me why?
Chapter three.......A tale of two Vacumn Cleaners.
Chapter four.........The door to door saleman of Wall Street!
Chapter five.........Sliding Doors!
Chapter six...........How to fight off a vicious dog with a vacumn cleaner attachment.
Chapter seven.......My attachments are bigger than yours!
Chapter eight........The hazards in demonstrating the sucking power with live pets, especially kittens!
Chapter nine.........And small children.
Chapter ten..........Blah, blah, blah, (run out of material)! :p

I'd buy that for a dollar!

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Richard Van

10 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Seriously? This is going to shrink their membership database to a level where they'll regret having bought it in the first place.

Edit: I just got though with no captcha involved.

Originally Posted by HeySal

Hey - NO LIE? It's gone. I just posted that without a hitch.

Has it gone for everyone?

I didn't actually see it at any point. :confused:

EDIT. If they did just turn it off, I just went back and there are 4 nice new fresh spam threads in Swahili or something.

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Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

People will do it once or twice and then posts will decline.

I said "20 posts" because the wave of spam earlier was all new bot traffic and those with 0-3 posts.

Maybe they need to cap it for a while until they get a handle on it - I know the search (past posts, etc) still isn't working and doesn't seem to be rebuilding so I'm sure the new owners have some glitches to work on.

Is it gone? This is my second or third reply to a post and I didn't get a recaptcha to solve.

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Kay King

10 years ago

It's gone for me, too. I've seen more spambots sliding in again, too. Those little suckers are persistent but I can't imagine how it does any good to post the crap.

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seasoned

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

It's gone for me, too. I've seen more spambots sliding in again, too. Those little suckers are persistent but I can't imagine how it does any good to post the crap.

I think the ONLY "good" they see is by, IF THEY DO IT RIGHT(and they really DON'T), giving their links more weight for a given set of keywords.

Their problem is that they lost fact of WHY they wanted to post it here, and are doing STUPID things to try to evade heuristic traps.

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bizgrower

10 years ago

Captcha/quick reply seems to be altered already.

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kenmichaels 10 years ago

Originally Posted by bizgrower

Captcha/quick reply seems to be altered already.

Does that mean we can all pretend that they listen to us?
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ForumGuru

Banned 10 years ago

Grooaannn!

Absolutely my least favorite captcha system! I also hope it is temporary...

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joseph7384

10 years ago

When was the captcha introduced, because I've been seeing spam all day long.

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Seriously? This is going to shrink their membership database to a level where they'll regret having bought it in the first place.

Edit: I just got though with no captcha involved.

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HeySal

10 years ago

Hey - NO LIE? It's gone. I just posted that without a hitch.

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seasoned

10 years ago

ALL computers have ONE thing in common! They are IDIOTS! Simply create a backend process with a needed parameter, and the spam could drop to ZERO and we wouldn't even have to know it is there. The spammers may NEVER catch on. YEAH, itmight be easy to defeat, but the point is they may NEVER catch on. Even restricting referrers on the accepting page could cause spam to disappear.

So far, I have had two captchas. BOTH were reasonably stable, no noise, all numeric captchas. That will defeat almost any robot out there. SOME are HIGH NOISE, unstable, and all symbolic, and most people SHOULD have problems doing them. If a value could be v, V,w, W, I, l,1, t, T, x, or X, WHAT are the chances that you will type in the right value? And YES, it can be that hard, assuming you even see the character. Case can be hard enough to determine, especially if the font size changes all over. I,l,and 1, are often hard to discern. If they have a line going through them, they can look like X,x,T or t! If two "1" tilt to either side, they could look like a V. If THEY are then next to a V, they can look like a w.

SO FAR, HERE,for me, such a choice was limited to 1, and thus FAR EASIER! I STILL hate them though!

It is OFF at the moment.

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Kurt

10 years ago

The problem with captchas is there's a number of programs and services that will enter them for the spammers.

Also, when you send a verification email there are programs that will automatically click the confirmation link in these emails.

IMO, it would be a good idea to have a confirmation link in the email and when clicked on, the person is taken to a page that has another captcha. At this time, I don't know of any automation tool that would be set up to handle this. They may develope something in the future, but this system would be unique to the WF, at least for a while.

It does create an extra hurdle for new members, but I believe the ability to reduce spam would be a positive tradeoff.

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

IMO, it would be a good idea to have a confirmation link in the email and when clicked on, the person is taken to a page that has another captcha. At this time, I don't know of any automation tool that would be set up to handle this. They may develope something in the future, but this system would be unique to the WF, at least for a while.

^^^^^
This.

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SteveJohnson

10 years ago

Maybe it was an experiment, but everything is back to 'normal' including the spambots.

Personally, I would like to find whoever programs those and toss them off the top of the Burj Khalifa building in Dubai.

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waterotter

10 years ago

Here's Alaister's response to the captcha:

Originally Posted by Alaister

Hi everyone,

This isn't a new feature that we're keeping in place. We saw a whole bunch of new spam coming in so we have temporary placed the Captcha there just to address the spam issue.

We've removed that captcha now, hopefully the spam will have stopped.

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Kay King 10 years ago

Makes sense - I had posted above "Maybe they need to cap it for a while until they get a handle on it "

Sometimes you have to slam the door and stop the flood so you can regain control.
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ErinWalsh

10 years ago

I'm relieved I missed the captcha stuff. I'm really bad at entering them right. I usually get it after 5+ tries.

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Floyd Fisher

10 years ago

Might be appearing at random....maybe it's a new way to catch bots in the act?

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ForumGuru Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher

Might be appearing at random....maybe it's a new way to catch bots in the act?

For the moment is sounds like it is only being deployed when spambot traffic is extremely high.

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