US Files Criminal Hacking Charges Against Chinese Military Officials

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This is one of the oddest legal proceedings, the US Government filing criminal charges against Chinese military officials for hacking into private business websites.

Initially, I do not see any upside to the case but unlimited downside. It is mind-boggling this is being pursued.

Does US law control the world? On the forum when legal issues come up it doesn't matter where someone is located - the discussions is almost always about US law. One reason is that only the US tries to enforce its laws worldwide. When was the last time you heard of another country trying to extradite a US citizen for violating their laws? (Particularly when the person has never been to their country) On the other hand, the US does it regularly. In Sacramento, California, government officials successfully extradited someone from Pakistan/Afghanistan to the US, now rotting in a US prison, for selling drugs. The FTC regularly sues those in foreign countries for violating US law if they sell any product to US citizens. How would you feel if you were home in Kansas selling products online and were suddenly seized and taken to China for a criminal trial because you broke some law in China?

Should the US government be in the business of suing for private property interests? If a private company is hacked shouldn't they be the one taking legal action? This is similar to the US government seizing foreign website domains who are showing the Super Bowl without permission. Why should the government be carrying the NFL's water? When will the feds carry my water against sites ripping off my content?

There is zero chance China will turn over their military officials to the US for prosecution. So what's the point?

On the other hand, there will certainly be retaliation from China. It has already happened, with more to come.

Will China indict US officials based on Snowden's documents for hacking and spying on China? Will the US send its officials to China for prosecution?

Since we are talking about military officials, isn't this by definition some type of warfare? Isn't to be expected? Instead of fighting World War II, wouldn't it have been easier if we simply indicted Hermann Goring, Hitler's military leader?

Most important of all, how do I get the US government to go after all those Chinese, Russian and other spammers littering my email and blogs with garbage posts linking to fraudulent sites?

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

    Will China indict US officials based on Snowden's documents for hacking and spying on China? Will the US send its officials to China for prosecution?
    ^^^^
    This exactly. Classic case of Pot calling Kettle black, IMO. I see no useful purpose for this lawsuit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
    Brian,

    I read about this and wondered what the real end game is behind it. It's a first step, but in what direction?

    As far as jurisdiction, that could get into all sorts of detail-oriented arguments. Canada's anti-spam law, for example, says that anyone sending spam to an address used by a Canadian citizen is subject to the penalties. Fine, if you're sending your message across a border into Canada. How do they rationalize it if the Canadian citizen is using an address at a machine hosted in the US?

    How do you define borders on the net?

    Given the enormous expense of private suits against foreign citizens, and the comparatively small amounts of money involved in most individual thefts, how do you defend against these actions without governments getting involved? The aggregate damage is huge.

    At this point, I'd be happy if they were doing something aggressively about the infrastructure threats DDoSs, phishing, man in the middle attacks, and the like.


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