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    Good grief, they're charging $24 just to enter the building?

    I understand it cost money to maintain the place but they should have increased state taxes or something else outside of the museum to cover the cost.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Good grief, they're charging $24 just to enter the building?

      I understand it cost money to maintain the place but they should have increased state taxes or something else outside of the museum to cover the cost.
      They also get private funding through donations. That is really the way to handle it.
      Instead of state taxes going up why not just increase city taxes or federal taxes if that's your plan?
      Charging admission is bad enough but they also have an over priced gift shop.
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        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        They also get private funding through donations. That is really the way to handle it.
        Instead of state taxes going up why not just increase city taxes or federal taxes if that's your plan?
        Charging admission is bad enough but they also have an over priced gift shop.
        That's why I said "...state taxes or something else". My point was the place could have been financed without looking like it was trying to profit.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          I think we are going to extremes in expecting there to be no souvenirs - no charges - or to expect federal and state taxes to continue to pay for 9/11 memorials forever into the future.

          Families of 9/11 victims do NOT have to pay to enter the 9/11 museum and I think at some point it's time for them to stop making demands. Money does not give you back your life or your loved ones but the survivor's lives have been much easier than those of victims of other catastrophies.

          Congress acted quickly to create 9/11 compensation fund - Sep. 6, 2011

          Compare that with a total lack of compensation to victims in Oklahoma City which was just as much a terrorist attack.


          Sept. 11 Victim Compensation Fund

           This fund went to physically harmed survivors and dependents of people killed in the 2001 terror attacks. American taxpayers funded these payments:


          * 5,560 people received a total of $7.049 billion; 2,680 were injured and 2,880 were dependents of people killed.
          * The average award to persons injured exceeded $400,000 while the average award to dependents of those killed was more than $2 million each.

          * Claimants were eligible to receive charitable contributions in addition to their VCF awards.
          * Emergency responders received on average $1 million more than other classes of victims.

          Scholarships for 9/11 Survivors and Victims' Dependents

          Families of Freedom gave an average of $33,000 in need-based postsecondary scholarship funds to 1,452 dependents of people killed or injured in the 9/11 terror attacks. In addition to the $49 million already spent, FF has funds set aside through 2030 to continue funding need-based scholarships.


          Charitable Contributions to Individuals

          Ninety-two nonprofits made $722 million in direct payments to 9/11 survivors and dependents of those who died, according to charity tax records cited by the Bellingham Herald.


          Services for 9/11 Survivors and Families of the Deceased
          Beyond substantial infusions of cash and scholarship aid, the families of 9/11 survivors and those who died in the terror attacks received food, housing, counseling, summer camps, and other benefits paid for by charitable organizations such as Tuesday's Children, America's Camp Foundation and Salvation Army. Many of these efforts were long-term; those focused on children often provide services until adulthood.


          Where All That Money Came From
          In the year following the Sept. 11 terror attacks, approximately two-thirds of American households donated to a 9/11 charity.


          Of $2.8 billion in 9/11 charitable giving during the past decade, individuals provided 61 percent and institutions 39 percent. Some of this money assisted survivors and dependents of those killed; however, large amounts supported businesses suffering as a result of the attack and memorial efforts. Other activities, were of dubious relation to 9/11; some were outright fraudulent.
          The $7 billion-plus supporting the VCF were appropriated by Congress and paid for with tax dollars.
          9/11 was tragic - the victims families have had a large voice in how the memorials and buildings were designed and constructed. I think it's too much to expect taxpayers to keep footing the bills for the museum and its maintenance when those fees could be covered by sales and admissions.
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          • Profile picture of the author ThomM
            9/11 was tragic - the victims families have had a large voice in how the memorials and buildings were designed and constructed. I think it's too much to expect taxpayers to keep footing the bills for the museum and its maintenance when those fees could be covered by sales and admissions.
            I agree Kay. My only complaint about the gift shop was what I heard about the items being over priced. But it's in NYC and everything is over priced there.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              I just listened to a fellow on The Kelly File - here's what he was complaining about:

              "Just outside the 9/11 museum...people are looking in the windows, carrying balloons, riding bikes - it's almost a party atmosphere. That is disrespectful and something needs to be done".

              What does he want "done" - regulations to require tears....declaring the entire area a 'quiet zone'? He can't dictate how people react to this memorial.

              This will be a tourist attraction like the Wall in D.C. Think about it - a 12 yr old today wasn't even born when the 9/11 attack occurred. Today's high school senior was about 5-6 years old when the attack happened. Some will pay exorbitant prices for a bracelet that says "we will not forget" - and they'll feel good about buying it. What harm does it do?
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              • Profile picture of the author ThomM
                This will be a tourist attraction like the Wall in D.C.
                From the looks of it I'd say that was the idea from the beginning.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I would be more pissed off about the $24 fee to get into the museum.

    There's other museums that are free admission so obviously it can be done. There's even a Postal Museum, with free admission. I wonder If they have an exhibit on business management?
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      I would be more pissed off about the $24 fee to get into the museum.
      The Auschwitz Museum doesn't charge a fee for entry.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        But many museums do charge:

        The $24 admission fee to the 9/11 Museum in context | Marketplace.org

        It is free to visit the memorial - the fee is to enter the museum. The fee has been public knowledge for several years. It was initially to be $12 (like in Oklahoma City) - but the US Congress refused to obligate taxpayers to pay the balance of annual costs.

        People who can afford to take a trip to New York to see the museum can afford the entry fee. Taxpayers don't need to subsidize them.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          But many museums do charge:

          The $24 admission fee to the 9/11 Museum in context | Marketplace.org

          It is free to visit the memorial - the fee is to enter the museum. The fee has been public knowledge for several years. It was initially to be $12 (like in Oklahoma City) - but the US Congress refused to obligate taxpayers to pay the balance of annual costs.

          People who can afford to take a trip to New York to see the museum can afford the entry fee. Taxpayers don't need to subsidize them.
          Why was the museum even made? Why don't the OWNERS pay? In short, WHY is there anything to subsidize AND, if it should be subsidized, WHY do the taxpayers have to do it?

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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            Humans are big on memorials - it's our nature I guess. No problem with that as some big historic moments and crises need to be memorialized. The idea is to remember those we lost and what happened - its fans the emotional flames and that may be another part of our DNA.

            It's not going to be subsidized by federal tax money - unless something changes. That's why the fee is $24 instead of $12.


            9/11 museum opens on Wednesday, no tickets available until Thursday | New York Post
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            • Profile picture of the author seasoned
              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              Humans are big on memorials - it's our nature I guess. No problem with that as some big historic moments and crises need to be memorialized. The idea is to remember those we lost and what happened - its fans the emotional flames and that may be another part of our DNA.

              It's not going to be subsidized by federal tax money - unless something changes. That's why the fee is $24 instead of $12.


              9/11 museum opens on Wednesday, no tickets available until Thursday | New York Post
              I guess I am weird there. I think EVENTS should be remembered for what they are, how they were done, and what started them. It seems nobody cares about that today.

              If two things look identical and have no material difference, I don't see why one should be $10 and one $10 MILLION.

              Still, let's say it were FREE! Does that help the US? Is it for the government? NOPE! NOPE! So why should the taxpayer pay a PENNY! I mean do we pay all the people that may have had stock destroyed, or lost business for the boston bombing? What about sandy hook? What about that theater with that crazy guy. HECK, veterans are having trouble getting some of THEIR problems taken care of. Let's take care of the veterans and public items first.

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        Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

        The Auschwitz Museum doesn't charge a fee for entry.
        The Anne Frank Museum is 9 Euro's to get in. Which is nothing really.

        It's in Amsterdam though, so you can have an over priced smoke afterwards if you like.
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