Did your parents change as they got older?

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My mother just gave my boy a huge amount of money in an account for college.

For those of you who know me ... he is four.

I should be happy ... right?

I am trying very hard not to be insulted. Not because she gave him money.
But because my entire child hood revolved around EARNING everything.

It is not like she had a windfall or something like that.
My parents were tough ...the way she treats my kid now is crazy,
it's like she is a completely different person. Who knows, maybe she is.

BTW ... this was for a time capsule. The entire family is putting stuff
in it for his 21 birthday and I am hiding / burying it.

On his 21st birthday ... he is getting a map and a shovel.
  • Profile picture of the author Angle Warrior
    I noticed the same thing in our family, my son is an only child so the grand parents spoil him rotten, I raised him firm, to respect the hard work that it takes to make a buck, I don't feel that there is anything wrong with it as he has turned out just fine and understands that money doesn't grow on trees. I think that grandparents spoil there grandchildren to make up for what they maybe couldn't give us, after all they did there job, you turned out alright didn't you?
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  • Profile picture of the author marketingva
    I noticed the same thing too. My parents were very strict, critical and negative. I was punished for getting anything less than an A in school. They had favorite children and I wasn't one of them. When my son was born they lavished him with the affection they withheld from me and treated him like he was a prince. He has a great relationship with them and I barely speak to them. I'm thrilled for him but believe me... even after all these years it still hurts.

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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      The thread heading reminds me of the Mark Twain quote:

      "When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much he had learned in seven years."




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      • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
        My mother adored me and I her. To her dying day. She had the same sharp mind all through her life.

        My father however decided that he did not like me that much as I was going through my late teens and beyond. I was not as successful as he was (in his eyes) though I never thought he was that successful in life compared with a lot of people. And of course, it depends how you measure it.

        However, at 82 he had a big stroke and although he had all his memories and was not physically impaired he is a changed man. Simpler and much easier to get along with, more dependent, much less sure of himself. It was actually quite nice for a few years, we talked and got on a lot better, now alas though, at 88, dementia is creeping in. A lot more confused and unable to take care of himself.
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    Ken,

    Grandparents are often EXPECTED to be generous. Maybe she feels more secure now.

    My parents haven't changed. My mother, before she died, changed a LOT but all was because she had alzheimers.

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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Her role with you was to make you a man, which she did.

    Now that that work is over, she gets to enjoy the fruits of
    her "work" - her grandchildren.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      Her role with you was to make you a man, which she did.

      Now that that work is over, she gets to enjoy the fruits of
      her "work" - her grandchildren.
      Pretty insightful.

      I'm a grandparent. My son was my responsibility. My constant thought was to prepare him for adulthood and independence.


      But grandkids? They aren't mine. They're like funny little visitors that kind of look like our kids. Spoiling them is fun..because we get to give them back.

      And nobody blames the grandparents when the kid gets in trouble.


      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

      My mother adored me and I her. To her dying day. She had the same sharp mind all through her life.

      My father however decided that he did not like me that much as I was going through my late teens and beyond. I was not as successful as he was (in his eyes) though I never thought he was that successful in life compared with a lot of people. And of course, it depends how you measure it.

      However, at 82 he had a big stroke and although he had all his memories and was not physically impaired he is a changed man. Simpler and much easier to get along with, more dependent, much less sure of himself. It was actually quite nice for a few years, we talked and got on a lot better, now alas though, at 88, dementia is creeping in. A lot more confused and unable to take care of himself.
      I'm truly sorry about your Dad.

      My Mom was not a nice person as we grew up. Not because she was trying to teach us anything...but because we were an annoyance to her. A burden.

      But as adults? We became visitors...company. And she always put on her "We have visitors" face, when we were there.

      And when she became older (past middle age), she became more dependent...and so she had to be nicer.

      I'm nicer to relatives than I was when I was younger. Maybe it's lack of testosterone. Maybe it's that with age, we begin to really see the treasure that loved ones are.

      And maybe it's because we need someone to show us how to use the remote.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


        I'm nicer to relatives than I was when I was younger. Maybe it's lack of testosterone.
        This doesn't make sense to me. Don't you need to have something before you can lack it?
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          This doesn't make sense to me. Don't you need to have something before you can lack it?
          Dan; I consider that an assault on my manhood. I'll have you know that, when I was a young man...I was almost completely adequate (Rave review) with the ladies. In fact, I've asked several women "Am I the worst you've ever had?", and I remember one saying "Worst? Well, maybe not the worst". See?

          "Not the worst"...can you claim such a glowing review?
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          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Dan; I consider that an assault on my manhood. I'll have you know that, when I was a young man...I was almost completely adequate (Rave review) with the ladies. In fact, I've asked several women "Am I the worst you've ever had?", and I remember one saying "Worst? Well, maybe not the worst". See?

            "Not the worst"...can you claim such a glowing review?
            I actually went to the Convent to interview all of Claude's ex girlfriends. Nun of them had anything bad to say about him, mind you, it was a silent order, did not get a lot except for the Mother Superior who had a big smile on his face!

            Upon doing some research I found they had each joined the order directly after the relationship ended. Very strange that?
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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

              I actually went to the Convent to interview all of Claude's ex girlfriends. Nun of them had anything bad to say about him, mind you, it was a silent order, did not get a lot except for the Mother Superior who had a big smile on his face!

              Upon doing some research I found they had each joined the order directly after the relationship ended. Very strange that?
              I used to hear a lot of "So that's what sex is like?", and then they would give up and join the convent.

              Also, female criminals were given a choice of sentence. The judge would show them a picture of me, and say "Sex with this guy, or join a convent".

              They all joined the convent.
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              • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                I used to hear a lot of "So that's what sex is like?", and then they would give up and join the convent.

                Also, female criminals were given a choice of sentence. The judge would show them a picture of me, and say "Sex with this guy, or join a convent".

                They all joined the convent.
                You should include that in your up-coming biography: "Getting In The Habit"

                I used to have a girlfriend who liked to dress up like a Nun. Short, cute little thing. We split up because she insisted on moving to India, Ahhh what was her name again? Oh, thats it, Theresa!
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                • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
                  Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                  I actually went to the Convent to interview all of Claude's ex girlfriends. Nun of them had anything bad to say about him, mind you, it was a silent order, did not get a lot except for the Mother Superior who had a big smile on his face!

                  Upon doing some research I found they had each joined the order directly after the relationship ended. Very strange that?
                  No. Nothing strange or surprising there.











                  Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                  You should include that in your up-coming biography: "Getting In The Habit"

                  I used to have a girlfriend who liked to dress up like a Nun. Short, cute little thing. We split up because she insisted on moving to India, Ahhh what was her name again? Oh, thats it, Theresa!

                  Aren't you too young for Theresa? Your profile says you are...
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                  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                    Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                    No. Nothing strange or surprising there.














                    Aren't you too young for Theresa? Your profile says you are...
                    I always liked older Nuns
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Exactly. Your parents must teach you, raise you, instill ethics and morality and thrift and common sense into you.

      That's YOUR job with your son. You have to apply discipline, teach him manners and problem solving, help him become a kind and intelligent adult. Now yours parents can be doting grandparents without all the stress of parenting. Let them enjoy it - your son will be better for it.

      ...and when your son has a child, you get to be the doting grandparent who always has gifts and candy and fun.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    BTW ... this was for a time capsule. The entire family is putting stuff
    in it for his 21 birthday and I am hiding / burying it.

    On his 21st birthday ... he is getting a map and a shovel.
    What a neat idea! I salute you.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Maybe they felt that by being hard on you, that you would be strict with your children and they could lavish their love on "the little visitors." I tend to agree with the various comments made thus far. I don't have kids but I reckon that is how my parents would think.
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  • Profile picture of the author mkmo
    Dear kenmichaels. Very nice thread!
    Sometime ago I heard someone saying "people don't change, they only change their behavior" either way as time passes by, everything changes. That's natural.
    What you've mentioned is not only seen with grandsons/daughters but also favorable attitudes towards much younger brothers/sisters, female/male, successful/unsuccessful and the list goes on. Every family is different and every person is different too. You are responsible for your own child and you are the one who decides how you will raise him. The principles your parents gave you are the once that you will pass to your kids, who will later thank you. So basically you are his main source of influence, not anyone else. Money will come handy in the future, so it's good that your mother helps you and your kid to save up for college-uni. Appreciating a shovel and a map will give him a chance to understand, to love and value work. The part of you trying not being irritated or insulted might have to do with other factors. Look at it in a positive way.
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    I just checked my birth certificate, and my Mum and Dad's drivers licenses, and yep, they're the same people.
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  • Profile picture of the author barbling
    My parents mellowed as they got older.

    Heck, my 2 eldest kids think I'm 'way less strict with my 2 youngest than with them. They'd be correct there as well.

    I like thinking, nobody woke up one day and said, jeepers! Today I'm going to mess up my kid! We all do the best we can.... but as we get older, our energy levels start leveling off.

    I've raised my kids to think that going the dollar store is a treat. Hopefully their ability to save and look towards the future will continue.

    Should be interesting to see what they'll end up thinking of us in 30 years....
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I like thinking, nobody woke up one day and said, jeepers! Today I'm going to mess up my kid! We all do the best we can.... but as we get older, our energy levels start leveling off.
      Energy, yes - but we also begin to realize we don't control the universe nearly as much as we think we do:p so why mess with the small stuff?
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  • Profile picture of the author msdobe
    I think we belong to the same family!!

    My dad was always SO strict, it was a joke. First day of school my brother and I always got the same lecture... if you get a spanking in school, expect one when you get home!

    More than once he told me "I'm not here to be your friend, I'm your father!'.

    I'm certainly not complaining, because he taught me to take responsibility for my actions, and A LOT more.
    Then when he got older I was shocked to see how he mellowed - it was like he did a 180.

    Guess that happens as we age.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    While it is never a good idea for parents to "spoil" children, it is always a good idea (and fun too) for grandparents to spoil grandchildren. Resistance is futile. Go with the flow.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
    The problem is all mine ... and I know it.

    I was raised a certain way. I did not like it. It truly sucked. However ...
    When I finally came to grips with adulthood ... I realized how important they were
    and how much they helped me.

    I expected to raise my boy on most of those principles / idealism / teachings.

    Like I said ... I KNOW it is my problem ... not hers.

    She loves my boy and she shows it. That alone is a miracle that I can and will support.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Flowers
    of course its so natural
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I was a second child and my parents were far less strict with me than with my sister. It might have just been the times, too, though. Our whole society was becoming more lenient during the early 70's. My dad's gonna be 90 this summer, though, and the only way he's changed in about forever is that he doesn't play tennis anymore, and hasn't played raquetball since his emergency surgery to take out his gallbladder in March. Of course, it's getting really hard for him to find guys near his age bracket to play with anymore, too.

    Conversely, I'm seeing myself swaying more toward a lot of his ideologies as I am getting older.
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