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We meat eaters happily eat the meat provided but do we actually think of the process and cruelty involved before the animals get to the plate.
In my country we have the best Farming practices in the world in the way we treat animals..our freezing works have are strictly controlled where the slaughtering methods are as humane as possibly,,however,

Any cruelty of domestic animals are quickly reported by most people like the way we treat our cats and dogs etc, basic care of food and water..allowing them room to move and be happy..the SPCA and it's volunteers do a great job here as in the US.
In the US, they have the same or similar laws on how we treat our family pets, yet like us here in New Zealand we still allow the female pigs to live their existence in a steal crate where they are unable to move around..the same as in chicken rearing..western society should be ashamed of themselves that in this day and age we still allow the double standards and cruelty of pigs and poultry..if a domestic animal the owner would be fined.

I refuse to eat any pig and chicken products that are not free range, being a party to these greedy selfish so-called farmers..personally they all should be forced to change or closed down..in our country pig farmers have been given a time in which to change their practices for the good of the country and the animals.
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      I've lived around family farms for almost my whole life. The way they cared for their animals has always impressed me.
      At every farm the animals had a better life going for them then the farmers caring for them. The farmers got the idea that the health and well being of their animals was the key regardless of what they where raising. There aren't that many farms here in my area now, but the ones that are left continue in that tradition.
      The (so called) town I live in has been a farming community since it was first settled around 1715. There are some suburban areas in the town now, but it is still mostly farm land and the town supervisor has always been one of the farmers.
      There is no such thing as a humane slaughtering method.
      Death is a part of life. Something farmers understand. The farmers I know who raise livestock for meat always treated their animals very well and took the animals lives as fast and painlessly as possible.
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        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        I've lived around family farms for almost my whole life. The way they cared for their animals has always impressed me.
        At every farm the animals had a better life going for them then the farmers caring for them. The farmers got the idea that the health and well being of their animals was the key regardless of what they where raising. There aren't that many farms here in my area now, but the ones that are left continue in that tradition.
        The (so called) town I live in has been a farming community since it was first settled around 1715. There are some suburban areas in the town now, but it is still mostly farm land and the town supervisor has always been one of the farmers.
        Death is a part of life. Something farmers understand. The farmers I know who raise livestock for meat always treated their animals very well and took the animals lives as fast and painlessly as possible.
        The rearing of pigs and chickens are a totally different story compared to other livestock.. a sow spending it's life in a steal crate with not even enough room to move around including giving birth and rearing it's offspring is not looking after and caring for their welfare..
        Bobby calves another example where they are separated from their Mother's immediately after birth and sent for slaughter after just a few days of life..

        I eat meat as well but one would expect farmers to be more considerate of their livestock no matter what they are.
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          Originally Posted by Mikaedi View Post

          The rearing of pigs and chickens are a totally different story compared to other livestock.. a sow spending it's life in a steal crate with not even enough room to move around including giving birth and rearing it's offspring is not looking after and caring for their welfare..
          Bobby calves another example where they are separated from their Mother's immediately after birth and sent for slaughter after just a few days of life..

          I eat meat as well but one would expect farmers to be more considerate of their livestock no matter what they are.
          I only know one farmer who raises just pigs (he's not that close to me). He has pretty fair sized areas or pens he keeps them in and doesn't over crowd them.
          I agree with what you're saying. There are a couple farms I pass when riding south of me that raise calves for veal. They are clean and well kept, but those little huts are kind of disturbing.
          What I was saying is the farmers I know here whose farms I grew up around where considerate of their animals since they depended on them for their livelihood and food.
          Same with the crops they planted. They where into IPM before IPM was thought of. Chemical pesticides where used as a last resort only.
          I'm not saying all farmers are like that, just that I was fortunate to grow up and live in an area where the farmers had their act together.
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