The real reason service is slow at your favorite restaurant

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This restaurant compared video from 10 years ago to today to try to figure out why customers complained on Yelp they had "slow service."

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Well, none of that applies to ME! As for MY experience>

    1. Drive throughs..... Problems due to STUPID attempts at presells, bad assumptions, and NOT LISTENING!!!!! ALSO, various employees have heavy accents, and/or don't understand english well.. That WAS more of a problem in California though.

    2. EVERYWHERE.... A store/restaurant may be virtually SHUT DOWN because employees are chating with themselves about PERSONAL things.

    So I can't speak to the supposed restaurant. Maybe they DID see that on ONE day. But I DOUBT that is so common. It is NEVER the case with me!

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    Wow, that is eye-opening. It's a statement about today's "connected" society.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    ANOTHER thing! They take FOREVER to serve me, and ask for the bill. At various times I have said AT THE ORDER that I want the bill with the food, and they practically NEVER give it to me. They seem to ignore me. If I had nothing better to do, I would bring in groceries and stay there out of SPITE, but sometimes I have had to literally chase down a bill. I usually know what I want before I sit down, and RARELY order dessert,

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    • Profile picture of the author joe golfer
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      ANOTHER thing! They take FOREVER to serve me, and ask for the bill. At various times I have said AT THE ORDER that I want the bill with the food, and they practically NEVER give it to me. They seem to ignore me. If I had nothing better to do, I would bring in groceries and stay there out of SPITE, but sometimes I have had to literally chase down a bill. I usually know what I want before I sit down, and RARELY order dessert,

      Steve
      I like it when they seat you, but then you turn invisible. Finally, after what seems forever, a waiter appears and says casually, "Have you folks ordered yet?" with a SLIGHT edge to their tone that suggests you are somehow at fault.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by joe golfer View Post

        I like it when they seat you, but then you turn invisible. Finally, after what seems forever, a waiter appears and says casually, "Have you folks ordered yet?" with a SLIGHT edge to their tone that suggests you are somehow at fault.
        They may ask if I am ready yet, but not with the tone.

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        • Profile picture of the author joe golfer
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          They may ask if I am ready yet, but not with the tone.

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          It's veeerrrryyy subtle. Not easy to pull off. Sliiiiightly haughty with the tiniest pinch of disdain. Very, very small doses but it's there. Kind of funny.
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          • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
            Originally Posted by joe golfer View Post

            It's veeerrrryyy subtle. Not easy to pull off. Sliiiiightly haughty with the tiniest pinch of disdain. Very, very small doses but it's there. Kind of funny.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rick Rodd
    A nice slogan for a budding restaurant: We serve WiFi (and sometimes, food)
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      I think your all getting away from the point. This was obviously a good restaurant that had always prided itself on its service only to be accused of something that was down to cellphones and the resultant change of behavior in the general public. Video evidence too. 18 tables wanting to be re-seated as opposed to 3 in 2004, whats that about?

      Fast food places are a victim of their owners greed, employ school kids and pay them peanuts equals poor or indifferent service. They don't care.
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      • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        18 tables wanting to be re-seated as opposed to 3 in 2004, whats that about?
        They need much better lighting and decor so as to be able to take more robust pictures of their food, and far closer placement to the wifi router for improved transmission speeds, 'natch.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    I ate a Vietnamese restaurant for dinner tonight. Service and food alike were great. No complaints from my side.

    Anyway, maybe someone who opens a restaurant should have a slogan like, "A place to enjoy delicious food and take a vacation from your cell phone,."
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      I ate a Vietnamese restaurant for dinner tonight.
      Damn, TB, you must have been starving...
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      • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        Damn, TB, you must have been starving...
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I went to two restaurants this weekend in two different towns. One where I live, one a resort town.
    Both had incredibly skilled and friendly service. The food was better at the resort town, but then, it cost twice as much, too. I saw not one cellphone at either one. That makes me happy after reading this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    If that many people are using cells in their restaurant, maybe they can embrace the technology and have an app developed that lets people order using their cell?
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      If that many people are using cells in their restaurant, maybe they can embrace the technology and have an app developed that lets people order using their cell?
      They could even set it up so they could order straight from their cells, sending the message straight to POS machine and kitchen. Set up right, maybe it could even result in more spendings per table.
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      • Profile picture of the author George Wright
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        They could even set it up so they could order straight from their cells, sending the message straight to POS machine and kitchen. Set up right, maybe it could even result in more spendings per table.
        Think of the up sells and OTO possibilities...

        T bone $1.99

        OTO with meet $22.99

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        • Profile picture of the author yukon
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          Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

          Think of the up sells and OTO possibilities...

          T bone $1.99

          OTO with meet $22.99

          George Wright
          Maybe force them to give you their email before they order from the phone menu. Make it a long drawn out content locker process where they have to:
          • double optin email
          • Like you on FB
          • Give a positive review (before they eat)
          • Tweet about the restaurant

          Everyone that doesn't have a cell just orders from the paper menu & done eating before the cell table even finds the menu on the free wifi.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      If I ran a restaurant that catered to people typically in groups of more than one, I wouldn't offer public wifi, and would probably install a cell jammer or Faraday shielding.

      Follow that with a sign that said:

      "This restaurant is free of cell and wifi signals. Focus on the company you came here to spend precious moments of your life with. Or just take a break from the electronic leash.

      Enjoy your visit. --- The Mgt."


      Guaranteed... Combine that with good food and service and you'd have a maniac fan base.


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      • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        If I ran a restaurant that catered to people typically in groups of more than one, I wouldn't offer public wifi, and would probably install a cell jammer or Faraday shielding.

        Follow that with a sign that said:

        "This restaurant is free of cell and wifi signals. Focus on the company you came here to spend precious moments of your life with. Or just take a break from the electronic leash.

        Enjoy your visit. --- The Mgt."


        Guaranteed... Combine that with good food and service and you'd have a maniac fan base.


        Paul
        There is (or was) a steak house chain that would literally cut off neck ties if people wore them.
        A novelty marketing thing. They would then hang the remaining part of all the ties throughout the
        restaurant.

        Conversely, there is a renowned local Denver steak house called Emmaline's that would provide
        a suit coat and tie to males if they did not wear them. They have a huge cottonwood tree in the middle of the dining room.

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        I walked by a young couple on probably their first date. The guy was twiddling his thumbs
        whilst the girl was buried in her texting.

        Why do habits/addictions get so strong that people don't know how and when to stop?

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        The OP restaurant should do as Paul suggested.

        Or, put in the right signal boosters or additional access points. Believe me, commercial (larger building, structural, and equipment issues) is a bit different than home wifi, but with the right equipment it can
        be fairly stable and maintenance free.

        Somebody should always be on duty who at least knows how to reset a router or access point.

        Dan
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        • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
          Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

          There is (or was) a steak house chain that would literally cut off neck ties if people wore them. A novelty marketing thing. They would then hang the remaining part of all the ties throughout the restaurant.
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          • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
            Originally Posted by David Beroff View Post

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      • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        If I ran a restaurant that catered to people typically in groups of more than one, I wouldn't offer public wifi, and would probably install a cell jammer or Faraday shielding.

        Follow that with a sign that said:

        "This restaurant is free of cell and wifi signals. Focus on the company you came here to spend precious moments of your life with. Or just take a break from the electronic leash.

        Enjoy your visit. --- The Mgt."


        Guaranteed... Combine that with good food and service and you'd have a maniac fan base.


        Paul
        If there was a restaurant near me with this policy I would go there all the time. People on their phones in a restaurant annoy me.

        We have a "no cell phones at the dinner table" policy. At home or when we eat out. Dinner has always been about family time.
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    • Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      If that many people are using cells in their restaurant, maybe they can embrace the technology and have an app developed that lets people order using their cell?
      This would be an absolute disaster on so many levels.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by The Content Professional View Post

        This would be an absolute disaster on so many levels.
        Because ordering pizza online is such a failure, right? Or Jimmy Johns? Hurry, you better tell them before it's too late!

        PS...How about making fun out of it and have the app call a waiter/waitress who then takes their order over the cell phone?
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    • Profile picture of the author garyv
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      If that many people are using cells in their restaurant, maybe they can embrace the technology and have an app developed that lets people order using their cell?

      I believe Chili's has an app that allows you to order. I'm not sure how well it works out though.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    People shouldn't be allowed to take pics of the food. Then they paste it on FB and it makes me sick to look at people's food. Why do people assume that everyone on FB cares what their food looks like? Yuck. That in itself is enough to make me want to see cellphones banned from restaurants.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    They should do like in the 1970's when restaurants had smoking sections, have the cell phone section in the back of the restaurant next to the restroom doors where it stinks & lots of annoying people walking back & forth, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    My family all have cellphones except my sister ditched hers after she had a small bout with cancer that the lump was straight under where she carried it in her shirt pocket.

    The rest of us just have avoided the addiction...........even my Niece who is in that age bracket of technology freaks. When she comes to see me, you'd not even know she has one. She picks out about 15 minutes or a half hour at night sometime to answer any messages she gets. Once a day, she'll call her SO to make sure he knows she's okay. I'm kinda proud that my family hasn't gotten as blinkin' crazed as so much of the country is. There's still hope for mobile and etiquette yet. It just needs to be socially reinforced as a signal someone's an idiot if they can't use it with judgement.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Personally I think the restaurant in this story was focusing in the wrong area. While there has been a huge influx in smart-phones and devices over the years, the influx has been the same in every restaurant. So why was this restaurant receiving bad reviews for slow service while others do not?

    Usually when you write a review, you base it on your own personal and previous experiences elsewhere. So this restaurant is not able to accomplish what others have, and that is a service time that is comparable to the reviewers' other experiences.

    The time it takes to produce an order from the time an order is taken should be the same no matter how many iPhones are on the premises.

    Also - if they found recording devices in storage that still had decade old tapes in them, then their problem is more likely a lack of organization I'd assume.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      Personally I think the restaurant in this story was focusing in the wrong area. While there has been a huge influx in smart-phones and devices over the years, the influx has been the same in every restaurant. So why was this restaurant receiving bad reviews for slow service while others do not?

      Usually when you write a review, you base it on your own personal and previous experiences elsewhere. So this restaurant is not able to accomplish what others have, and that is a service time that is comparable to the reviewers' other experiences.

      The time it takes to produce an order from the time an order is taken should be the same no matter how many iPhones are on the premises.

      Also - if they found recording devices in storage that still had decade old tapes in them, then their problem is more likely a lack of organization I'd assume.
      I think the whole thing was a LIE. Relatively FEW act like that! But if you go to a fast food place and they waste 1-3 minutes trying to presell, and doing something like ringing up the order takes over a minute, etc.... That is time you DON'T get back! If it takes them 20 minutes to ask for your order.....

      HECK, in a way, I can appreciate JJs! They give you FEW options and try to do it FAST! Of course you sometimes have to come close to being "rude" because the person taking the order figures you want a #4 AS IS, and they try to sell OTHER THINGS!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!! LET ME FINISH FIRST!!!!!!! I DON'T want MAYO! NORMALLY, the order isn't important, but they may actually give you the order IMMEDIATELY!! HOW do they do that? They make it AS you order.

      One way they do that is by limiting options though. If you want swiss cheese, or chocolate cake, or onion rolls, etc... you won't go there.

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  • Profile picture of the author AndreaBlom
    One time I had three different waiters come up and ask for our drink orders haha! It was a chaotic day for them, poor kids.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Arby's abandoned a touch screen system that let customers place their own orders.
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    • Profile picture of the author garyv
      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      Arby's abandoned a touch screen system that let customers place their own orders.
      Yes it seems like it could cause havoc on the cooks, if some non-tech savvy person started hitting buttons.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by garyv View Post

        Yes it seems like it could cause havoc on the cooks, if some non-tech savvy person started hitting buttons.
        I seriously doubt the monitor the cook is looking at shows anything until the customer places the order & pays.

        From what I read about the Arby's test, the customers really liked the concept.
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    This kind of stuff is why I don't like cellphones, smartphones, etc ad nauseum.

    If I want to be bothered while I eat, I'll eat at home thank you.

    If you really need to bother me about absolutely nothing while I am away, sit on it.
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