What do you think of a 2002 Mercedes Kompressor?

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Do people look down on those who own a 2002 Mercedes Kompressor? I get the impression that those who drive in an older model luxury car think that the owners are just a bunch of wannabes who cant afford the latest model.

In your honest opinion, if you had a friend who bought a 2002 Mercedes Kompressor what would you think? Or even a stranger?
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    You can get these old cars for around 5 grands here. If he's young I would think he's a mechanic or an auto aficionado.

    If he's old, I'd just think he's a thrift, responsible person.
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  • Profile picture of the author MyLuckyYear
    Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

    You can get these old cars for around 5 grands here. If he's young I would think he's a mechanic or an auto aficionado.

    If he's old, I'd just think he's a thrift, responsible person.
    Where in the world would you get a used Merc at 5 grand? You do mean $5000 right? Even with the least amount of kms its impossible to get a GOOD one at that price.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    I think judging people by the car they drive is like judging the strength of concrete by how good it tastes. It may lead you to an opinion, but not necessarily a useful or accurate one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by cr726shd View Post

    In your honest opinion, if you had a friend who bought a 2002 Mercedes Kompressor what would you think? Or even a stranger?
    How would I know it was the 2002 model? I think only an enthusiast would know this, perhaps? (I know nothing about German cars and tend not to like them very much ).

    Originally Posted by cr726shd View Post

    I get the impression that those who drive in an older model luxury car think that the owners are just a bunch of wannabes who cant afford the latest model.
    I think it's a location-specific social/cultural thing, to some extent? I think that tends not to be true, where I live. If anything, I think it's perhaps slightly the opposite: people think that those driving the latest model of luxury car don't own it anyway (it's just a "company car"), whereas those with older model luxury cars appreciate some class and distinction and anyway they probably "don't make them as well as that any more, these days"?

    My perception may be biased by my own car being much older than the 2002 one you mentioned.

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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      How would I know it was the 2002 model? I think only an enthusiast would know this, perhaps? (I know nothing about German cars and tend not to like them very much ).



      I think it's a location-specific social/cultural thing, to some extent? I think that tends not to be true, where I live. If anything, I think it's perhaps slightly the opposite: people think that those driving the latest model of luxury car don't own it anyway (it's just a "company car"), whereas those with older model luxury cars appreciate some class and distinction and anyway they probably "don't make them as well as that any more, these days"?

      My perception may be biased by my own car being much older than the 2002 one you mentioned.

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      I can see why you favor your older car:

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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

        I can see why you favor your older car:

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        Oooh, that's an old one, Dan! (That's an earlier model, I must admit - mine is 1971, and the coupé, not the roadster ).

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        • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Oooh, that's an old one, Dan! (That's an earlier model, I must admit - mine is 1971, and the coupé, not the roadster ).

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          I was trying to find the one that fetched around $5,000,000. I think it's a '53. Google was not my friend and
          lunch time is over.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

            I was trying to find the one that fetched around $5,000,000.
            Ooh, hadn't heard about that one. (Mine, needless to say, is not in that league at all! Nor would it suit a "purist", with all its modern accoutrements: it had a lot of stuff done in the refurbishment/rebuilding that wasn't part of the "original"/"authentic" ones at all. A bit of a girly-car, really. ).

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            • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              Ooh, hadn't heard about that one. (Mine, needless to say, is not in that league at all! Nor would it suit a "purist", with all its modern accoutrements: it had a lot of stuff done in the refurbishment/rebuilding that wasn't part of the "original"/"authentic" ones at all. A bit of a girly-car, really. ).

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              Girly shoe chick car on appearance. Likely not for maintenance?
              (I just learned what concours condition means.)
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                Girly shoe chick car on appearance. Likely not for maintenance?
                No, probably not ... but mine was a total rebuild (again, purists will be wincing) and most of its parts are completely new, really. It has the engine they put in XKR's, or something(?). I've had it 2 years, and have done an embarrassingly tiny mileage in it, but my father drives it when he comes over and loves it. It's auto transmission, needless to say: I did actually try to drive one with a clutch before buying this (just to "make sure"), and I really couldn't manage that at all. So that's why it's "girly": my father says no real E-type enthusiast would dream of auto transmission.

                Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                (I just learned what concours condition means.)
                "An extra 0 on the price??"
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                • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
                  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                  No, probably not ... but mine was a total rebuild (again, purists will be wincing) and most of its parts are completely new, really. It has the engine they put in XKR's, or something(?). I've had it 2 years, and have done an embarrassingly tiny mileage in it, but my father drives it when he comes over and loves it. It's auto transmission, needless to say: I did actually try to drive one with a clutch before buying this (just to "make sure"), and I really couldn't manage that at all. So that's why it's "girly": my father says no real E-type enthusiast would dream of auto transmission.



                  "An extra 0 on the price??"
                  Try to buy a new one (of any make, really) now without automatic transmission.
                  At least in the US.
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                  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                    Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

                    Try to buy a new one (of any make, really) now without automatic transmission.
                    At least in the US.
                    I was SO used to the US, that I never specified this in europe, when I rented a car. YEAH, I KNOW, STUPID! They gave me a MANUAL in europe! In the US MOST use automatic, and it can be hard to use manual on some roads. IRONICALLY, on one car I almost got as my first car, it only had manual, as I recall. I decided against it.

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                • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
                  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post




                  "An extra 0 on the price??"
                  Witty and probably true:
                  (I believe one of these fetched the 5 million dollars.
                  Time to start searching old barns instead of IM.)

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                  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                    "A total of 53 C-types were built"! Yes, that'll have quite some rarity value (but can it get over the speed-bumps in my street???).
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                    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
                      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                      "A total of 53 C-types were built"! Yes, that'll have quite some rarity value (but can it get over the speed-bumps in my street???).
                      Funny you should mention that. Definitely a factor. My hotel hosted
                      a Cobra car rally. These were licensed versions derived from
                      the AC Cobra. One of the guys did not bring his GT40 because
                      no ground clearance and the Colorado Rockies does not mix.
                      (And it's a hard top and you're just about laying down as you drive
                      because of the way they are built. No scenery views.)

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Mercedes are good cars! When I was in Europe, it seemed like all the taxis were MERCEDES!

    It didn't start out as a luxury car! It's selling point was QUALITY! AND, for a luxury car, it is CHEAP!

    OK, it looks like luxury cars have fallen in price. The mercedes is STILL cheap. Maybe not as cheap as the cheapest volkswagen, etc.... but cheap.

    But what do YOU care? Is he making a big deal about having a luxury car?

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    BTW the only people I have known that are wannabeson cars are ones that have a stupid idea, make a killing on a promise, or spend their last dime, and get like a rolls royce,or a suit they think is fancy, just to try to impress. You know, like that guy here that recently tried to take a poll to see if people would be impressed if he bought a rolex.

    I think Jay Leno can be forgiven a bit, since he DOES want to keep history, takes good care of them, and apparently just LOVES such things. He actually has a steam engine that does nothing of any real use to him or anyone JUST because it is HISTORIC! He has an OLD steam driven car that isn't much to ride, just because it is historic. Besides, it wasn't a secret that Jay had a lot of money.

    The rolls is ALSO known to be quality, but it is OVERKILL on that point. People often buy them to show off. Some models even have supper expensive umbrellas that fit into the doors so you will always have an umbrella. NICE TOUCH! But is it worth the thousands they charge for that feature, or the 100s of thousands for the car? MAYBE if you are a billionaire and making multimillion dollar deals. Otherwise, I DOUBT it!

    But merecedes is a good car at what would NOW be considered a good price.

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    • Profile picture of the author alistair
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      The rolls is ALSO known to be quality, but it is OVERKILL on that point. People often buy them to show off. Some models even have supper expensive umbrellas that fit into the doors so you will always have an umbrella. NICE TOUCH! But is it worth the thousands they charge for that feature, or the 100s of thousands for the car? MAYBE if you are a billionaire and making multimillion dollar deals. Otherwise, I DOUBT it!
      I think it's the billionaires who RR are aiming to sell their more "prestigious" cars to, and you're right in saying people often buy them to show off. I watched a few months back now and it demonstrates pretty clearly who buys the more expensive models and why, and just to what lengths are gone to get everything perfect.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by alistair View Post

        I think it's the billionaires who RR are aiming to sell their more "prestigious" cars to, and you're right in saying people often buy them to show off. I watched Ch4.Inside.Rolls.Royce.720p.HDTV.x264.AAC.MVGroup. org - Video Dailymotion a few months back now and it demonstrates pretty clearly who buys the more expensive models and why, and just to what lengths are gone to get everything perfect.
        I don't know about NOW, but a few decades ago, perhaps late 80s, they came out with an ECONOMY model! I looked at one, as there was ACTUALLY a dealer near where I lived! I think that car cost about $125K. That was an ECONOMY rolls royce that had less, and more conventional, wood, and more plastic. I never did find out how well they sold.

        BTW I lived in a lower/middle - middle/middle class area. Some stars and billionares may have happened into the area, but they probably worked and lived dozens of miles away. It wasn't THAT far from hollywood, burbank, and beverly hills, for example.

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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I was born with a deficient 'givadamn' gene. I rarely, if ever, make decisions on what others think. If you like something, go with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      I was born with a deficient 'givadamn' gene. I rarely, if ever, make decisions on what others think. If you like something, go with it.
      Bet you were a GDI fraternity member in college.












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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Originally Posted by cr726shd View Post

    Do people look down on those who own a 2002 Mercedes Kompressor? I get the impression that those who drive in an older model luxury car think that the owners are just a bunch of wannabes who cant afford the latest model.

    In your honest opinion, if you had a friend who bought a 2002 Mercedes Kompressor what would you think? Or even a stranger?
    In 2011 a sales trainer I was working with and I rolled up to a prospect's computer repair shop, both driving older model Mercedes. They were well taken care of though (I had just Turtle Waxed mine) and looked great.

    The prospect came out into the parking lot to greet us, and exclaimed, "Obviously you guys are doing well! Both driving Mercedes!"

    These cars were both two decades old.

    This was my first job in the US and I had not been allowed to work for the better part of a year.

    Perception is reality, and not many people are up to date on what the latest model is.

    I do recall a restaurant owner complaining his did not perform well in the snow on the rare occasion we had some back in Vancouver, though. That was around '08.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
    Originally Posted by cr726shd View Post

    Do people look down on those who own a 2002 Mercedes Kompressor? I get the impression that those who drive in an older model luxury car think that the owners are just a bunch of wannabes who cant afford the latest model.
    Oh, definitely the case around here. Most people who own old luxury cars are people who cleaned restrooms/worked on construction sites/etc. for years in foreign countries just to buy a used luxury car. (It's usually a BMW around here.) Most of them can't afford to put gas into their tanks to "take it out for a spin". Sad people, but God is great, so He let's them breathe.

    However, as Alexa pointed out, this is often times a cultural thing. I can see an Italian guy driving this and look very classy, but the guy who washes his toilet might also drive the same car, in his home country. (I'm not making this stuff up.)
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

      Oh, definitely the case around here. Most people who own old luxury cars are people who cleaned restrooms/worked on construction sites/etc. for years in foreign countries just to buy a used luxury car. (It's usually a BMW around here.) Most of them can't afford to put gas into their tanks to "take it out for a spin". Sad people, but God is great, so He let's them breathe.

      However, as Alexa pointed out, this is often times a cultural thing. I can see an Italian guy driving this and look very classy, but the guy who washes his toilet might also drive the same car, in his home country. (I'm not making this stuff up.)
      As I said, mercedes taxis, in germany, denmark, switzerland were COMMON! It is a good car. As for a persons job? I was shocked to see one janitor's home! It was one of the nicest and largest I have ever personally seen, and I have seen a number. He basically had other employees as well and built a whole business around it. I knew a maid that had 2 kids and was a single mother and apparently had no help from the father, and she lived in a nice house. Maybe not nearly as big as the other, but a nice home.

      I knew a guy that wrote technical documentation for cars, he had a nice home, a nice stay at home wife, and 9 kids(and counting) IIRC. I never would have guessed.

      Yeah, BMW is kind of popular for some here, for that sort of thing. It seemed common enough that I wondered what the point was. To have a nice classic looking car with the BMW medallion, etc... They are generally smaller and older though.

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  • Profile picture of the author smaddoxjr
    I went out with a friend to test drive one, He did end up buying it. The car handles, accelerates, and stops flawlessly. The guy ended up hitting a deer going 75 and came out with just a dent.Had it been in a Honda or something of less quality guarantee the car would be totaled and he would of been injured. He got the car fixed and has been awesome and reliable. Maintenance is high- find a loyal cheap foreign repair shops with ex Mercedes Benz mechanics. worth the savings. Would any luxury car be expensive for repair/maintenance though?
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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by smaddoxjr View Post

      I went out with a friend to test drive one, He did end up buying it. The car handles, accelerates, and stops flawlessly. The guy ended up hitting a deer going 75 and came out with just a dent.Had it been in a Honda or something of less quality guarantee the car would be totaled and he would of been injured. He got the car fixed and has been awesome and reliable. Maintenance is high- find a loyal cheap foreign repair shops with ex Mercedes Benz mechanics. worth the savings. Would any luxury car be expensive for repair/maintenance though?
      These days, at $80 to $100 per hour shop rate where I live, all makes are expensive to maintain
      by a repair shop. I'm not sure if luxury cars are really that much more to maintain, but certainly harder
      to find somebody good who actually works on them. Often, in my experience, dealers are the
      worst quality and you are right about finding a good independent.

      The other thing about any car that old is that the major components, such as engines and transmissions, can be at the end of their life.

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