1.2 Billion Passwords and Usernames Hacked

by Cali16
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According to news reports a couple days ago, Russian hackers have stolen over a billion password and username combinations, and 500 million email addresses. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/06/te...ials.html?_r=0

Some security experts have recommended changing all passwords (at least those related to any financial accounts), but other experts have said to not change them, as that just gives the hackers the new info as well (at least I think that was the logic...).

So, my question is, should we change all our passwords as a precaution? My passwords are all different, really long, and a completely random mix of letters, numbers, and characters. But, if they have the info, they have the info...

(Btw, if there's already a thread on this, my apologies; I did a quick search but nothing came up...)
  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    Do what I do, go here https://api.wordpress.org/secret-key/1.1/salt/ are use atleast five of those strings as your password

    It makes it nearly impossible to guess your password, but doesn't stop people from hacking the servers they are stored on.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      Thanks, Alex, but my concern isn't about anyone ever guessing my passwords. (Btw, that's almost exactly what my passwords are like, only a bit shorter, as many sites have a character limit.)
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    • Profile picture of the author HN
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      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      It makes it nearly impossible to guess your password, but doesn't stop people from hacking the servers they are stored on.
      The passwords are not stored on servers, at least they shouldn't be. The hash that you get after running a one-way encryption on your password is stored. That's how I operate my sites. It's impossible to decrypt the hash to get your password. They can however brute force it, but if your password consists of random numbers, letters and ascii characters, it could take forever.

      I wonder what they have actually stolen. How many sites are out there that don't encrypt user data, esp. passwords?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    Here's a concise article from CNET on the subject:

    The guide to password security (and why you should care) - CNET

    To answer your question, you should change your passwords. But we should all change our passwords frequently anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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    I have over 500 passwords...I may change some of them, but certainly not all!

    Cheers

    -don
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

      I have over 500 passwords...I may change some of them, but certainly not all!
      500 - Yikes!! I made a list of the ones I thought were the most crucial. I do change those periodically, but changing them all at once - UGH! (The emoticon in your post certainly reflects how I'm feeling at the moment!!)
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
        Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

        500 - Yikes!! I made a list of the ones I thought were the most crucial. I do change those periodically, but changing them all at once - UGH! (The emoticon in your post certainly reflects how I'm feeling at the moment!!)
        I have over 500 as well, but probably 98% are from sites that require PWs just to download an ebook, membership sites I have joined over the years etc. Important PWS - I might have 2 or 3 dozen. Much easier to manage that
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        • Profile picture of the author Cali16
          Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

          I have over 500 as well, but probably 98% are from sites that require PWs just to download an ebook, membership sites I have joined over the years etc. Important PWS - I might have 2 or 3 dozen. Much easier to manage that
          Yes, probably all my cumulative passwords over the total in the low to mid-hundreds, but most of those are sites like you described and they don't have any important information. And a significant percentage are for things or sites I have no reason to ever use again.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

      I have over 500 passwords...I may change some of them, but certainly not all!

      Cheers

      -don
      Don, with that many passwords, I'd think you'd use something like Last Pass. You're more of a techie than me. Is there a reason why you would not?
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      • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        Don, with that many passwords, I'd think you'd use something like Last Pass. You're more of a techie than me. Is there a reason why you would not?
        Hi Dan,

        Yeah, I have been using KeePass for several years now.

        LastPass vs. KeePass | Maximum PC

        I have heard a lot of good things about LastPass (and I realize some prefer it) but I have been using the non-cloud solution for such a long time without issue that I have not felt the need to change systems.

        I do have a second "paid" well rated password manager that I received a promo copy of but I have not switched over to it since KeePass has done the job for me for such a long time.

        Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author Gasen
    I received 2 emails from Hostway about password security.

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    Valued Hostway Customer:

    Hostway Services, Inc. is reaching out to advise you on taking action on the recent report of 1.2 billion compromised username and password combinations, believed to be the largest ever hack of private Internet information. As the security of our customers is our top priority, we’d like to take this opportunity to remind you of some password best practices:

    It’s important to immediately change your password – not just for your Hostway account, but also for any accounts you use that involve personal or financial data. Make unique passwords for each of these sites, so that anyone gaining access to one of your accounts doesn’t easily gain access to more. The email account you use for password recovery is especially crucial to maintaining your digital security.

    A strong password has the following characteristics:
    • Eight characters or more
    • Both uppercase and lowercase letters
    • Numbers and special characters
    • No proper names or personal information
    With these tips, you'll be well on your way to a safer online existence.
    If you have any questions or concerns about this notification, please contact us. It is Hostway’s priority to keep our customers’ data secure.

    Thank you for your business!

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    -------------------------------2nd email-------------------------------
    Valued Hostway Customer:

    Our prior email about password security seemed to lead to more questions than answers, so we’d like to clear several things up for our customer base. First and foremost, our earlier email was meant to be an informative article to share email best practices. We strive to enable our customers to be as secure as they possibly can. We were not saying that you had to change your Hostway password.

    Your Hostway account password is no more vulnerable than any other password you use on any other site. This email was intended as an alert for our customers that more than a billion passwords and accounts across a variety of sites were no longer secure, and that action should be taken to ensure the security of your personal and financial information.

    In accordance with this, we are advising you to change the passwords you use for any accounts that involve personal or financial data. Make unique passwords for each of these sites, so that anyone gaining access to one of your accounts doesn’t easily gain access to more. The email account you use for password recovery is especially crucial to maintaining your digital security.

    Log into your SiteControl to change any of your passwords. If you’re unsure about how to do this, please contact our support team.

    If you have any questions or concerns about this notification, please contact us. It is Hostway’s priority to keep our customers’ data secure.


    Thank you for your business!

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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    All very good tips here. Thanks everybody.

    My first line of 'defense' is that I never save/store passwords that are for financial sites such as my Bank or Paypal including in my browsers. It is a little more trouble but I feel it is safer.

    As well, any of the sites/applications where you are saving your payment details could get hacked, so again I never save the information. There have been a few times where the company saved the information without asking me and I made sure they removed it (your credit card info to make future purchases 'easier') - no thanks.

    I would never use anything that saves all your passwords in one place - to me that is just too much of a target. (like passport or whatever that one is that saves all your form input -

    I always remind our clients that passwords are not about ease of use but for security - (why you don't use real words or anything that could be 'guessed' by a computer program).

    People are lazy and in denial about the risk. With that said the one time I was 'hacked' was walking into a store and using my Visa/ATM card at the POS machine.

    Somehow they scanned the magnetic strip and made another card (in Russia/USSR) with their name, etc, but which debited my account numerous times before it was discovered. (got all my money back) but nobody would pursue it from the bank to the FBI - I knew exactly the (different than usual) store it happened and the guy behind the counter looked like an Al Quaida recruit. The Bank would rather just have their insurance cough up the couple thousand dollars they stole.
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  • Profile picture of the author RogozRazvan
    I'm using about the same password everywhere.

    However, I also have two step authentication.

    This means that unless they hack my phone too, even with the right password, they would need a six digit code sent by SMS.

    I think two step authentication is one of the best things invented since SSL.

    I'm using my phone for codes, I have a card with six one time codes for Gmail in the case I lose my phone and physical authentication for all banking information.

    So unless they:
    1. Find out my usernames.
    2. Find out / crack my password.
    3. Steal my phone.

    ... it is kind of hard to login.

    The only weak link is my laptop, as I save all my passwords by default. However, I'm using Linux and without sudo it is next to impossible to install a key-logger.

    Of course, I am secured only against my email accounts, social networks and banking but I would be more worried if someone got into my Gmail account than into my WF or some other forum account.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cali16
      Originally Posted by RogozRazvan View Post


      However, I also have two step authentication.

      This means that unless they hack my phone too, even with the right password, they would need a six digit code sent by SMS.

      I think two step authentication is one of the best things invented since SSL.

      I'm using my phone for codes, I have a card with six one time codes for Gmail in the case I lose my phone and physical authentication for all banking information.
      Forgive my ignorance, but is this something you set up with each site, and then they send you a text with a code every time you log in?
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