Selling nutrition? Will Codex Alimentarius shut you down 2010?

[seasoned]

Originally Posted by myob

That group is actually called the Builderborgs. They have repeatedly said resistance is futile, and you will be assimilated. The Third of Five has warned all of us, "Strength is irrelevant. Resistance is futile. We wish to improve ourselves. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours."

I'm SURE you are trying to be funny, but you aren't FAR wrong. If they WERE going to tell the FULL truth it would be like...

resistance is futile, and you will be assimilated. Strength is irrelevant. Resistance is futile. We wish to live as GODS. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to other stuff we have stolen. Your culture will adapt to service and worship ours.

And I am NOT kidding!

Steve

[myob]

Originally Posted by myob
That group is actually called the Builderborgs. They have repeatedly said resistance is futile, and you will be assimilated. The Third of Five has warned all of us, "Strength is irrelevant. Resistance is futile. We wish to improve ourselves. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service ours."

Originally Posted by seasoned

I'm SURE you are trying to be funny, but you aren't FAR wrong. If they WERE going to tell the FULL truth it would be like...

And I am NOT kidding!

Steve

Well, you look kind of silly because the Builderborgs is not even a real group. You should know it's the Bilderberg group, who had a BIG meeting in May 14 - May 16 at the Astir Palace resort in Athens, Greece to plot the takeover of the world. Alex Jones was there and heard the whole despotic conspiracy. Now you have the real truth.

[seasoned]

Originally Posted by myob

Well, you look kind of silly because the Builderborgs is not even a real group. You should know it's the Bilderberg group, who had a BIG meeting in May 14 - May 16 at the Astir Palace resort in Athens, Greece to plot the takeover of the world. Alex Jones was there and heard the whole despotic conspiracy. Now you have the real truth.

NO, I DON'T look silly! It was OBVIOUS, to ME at least, that you were MIXING the builderB ERGS(the group you just mentioned), with the BORGS that were presented at a point with a character called 7 of 9(like your "Third of Five"). The QUESTION was to what degree were you joking. I basically said that even though you thought it was funny, you were NOT far off!

Steve

[myob]

Originally Posted by seasoned

NO, I DON'T look silly! It was OBVIOUS, to ME at least, that you were MIXING the builderB ERGS (the group you just mentioned), with the BORGS that were presented at a point with a character called 7 of 9(like your "Third of Five"). The QUESTION was to what degree were you joking. I basically said that even though you thought it was funny, you were NOT far off!

Steve

So, what are these builderB ERGS up to these days? Do you think they are all in cahoots with the Iliterati, Trilittle Commission, Skill and Beans, Hamburgers, Lizards, and the monkeys?

[seasoned]

INTERESTING! OK....

"literati","trilaterral commission", "Skull and bones"....

Hamburgers???????
lizards??????
monkeys??????

[myob]

Originally Posted by seasoned

INTERESTING! OK....

"literati","trilaterral commission", "Skull and bones"....

Hamburgers???????
lizards??????
monkeys??????

Here are the references. You really must be falling behind on all the conspiracies going on.

Hamburgers??????? Hamburger
lizards?????? Lizards
monkeys?????? Monkey Conspiracy

P.S. I believe that 3 of 5 and 7 of 9 of the Builderborgs is the same person. It's a rapidly growing organization.

[seasoned]

OK, I don't think I ever learned the name of the 911 tower guy. Oh well...

I heard about the pleiades idea before it even really took off. One guy, that someone I knew knew, wrote about about contact!

As for the monkey deal, WHO KNOWS? Humans ARE considered "great apes", and this world seems more and more like planet of the apes.

BTW I only looked at a few little things. I realize ALL of yours may be jokes, like the monkey one but, again, I'm not kidding.... Of course, I don't believe the pleiades garbage. The HEAD guy there. The one they TRIED to rip off was, last I knew, BANKRUPT! He lived in a SMALL RV trailer in his mothers yard. He DID own a large company, had a wife that even spent $900 for an umbrella holder, and had a rolls royce. I guess he was in his 50s last I knew. Still, he was BROKE! And I am not joking THERE either.

As for the 911 garbage? WHO KNOWS!?!? The US has done an AWFUL lot of garbage! Did they ever fine airforce one and BILL CLINTON the BILLIONS that "hair force one" cost? Did they EVEN admit to all the pollution his haircut caused!?!? Did they ever fine Obama all the millions that HIS airforce one fiasco cost? And what of all the people killed, the coups, etc.... Frankly, I wouldn't trust ANYONE in the government. Not ANYONE from the president to the unpaid intern to the lowest level person at the DMV.

Steve

[myob]

Steve,

Come on, now. How do you really know what is a true fact and what is a joke/hoax? Quite often, the truth is stranger than any joke or hoax could be. You categorically don't trust ANYONE in government, but you do seem to put a whole lot of blind trust in selected conspiracies. What is your criteria for selecting these conspiracies that you believe in? It appears to me, which is quite common, is that your preconcieved notions determine the belief in conspiracies that support your world view. This belief system is not based on real facts, but rather on internally flawed preconceptions. Your very mind is being controlled by forces far beyond your comprehension because of your uncritical belief in such conspiracies. The biggest conspiracy of all is the marketing of conspiracies by capitalizing on this laziness and inherently faulty logic of the masses. That is not a joke; I am very serious about it. Seek the truth, and the truth will set you free.

[seasoned]

Originally Posted by myob

Steve,

Come on, now. How do you really know what is a true fact and what is a joke/hoax? Quite often, the truth is stranger than any joke or hoax could be. You categorically don't trust ANYONE in government, but you do seem to put a whole lot of blind trust in selected conspiracies. What is your criteria for selecting these conspiracies that you believe in? It appears to me, which is quite common, is that your preconcieved notions determine the belief in conspiracies that support your world view. This belief system is not based on real facts, but rather on internally flawed preconceptions. Your very mind is being controlled by forces far beyond your comprehension because of your uncritical belief in such conspiracies. The biggest conspiracy of all is the marketing of conspiracies by capitalizing on this laziness and inherently faulty logic of the masses. That is not a joke; I am very serious about it. Seek the truth, and the truth will set you free.

The government has EARNED my distrust! I do NOT put blind faith in conspiracies. HECK, some that I thougt were CRAZY turned out to be REAL! I'm not sure if the reverse could ever be said. NAW. I would LOVE for all "conservatives" to be 100% honest, intelligent, well meaning, etc.... SADLY, that is not true. And some liberals have merely been duped. And I would LOVE it if all americans were conservative, etc... Sadly, that isn't true. I would LOVE it if there was a benevolent force pushing things along for the better. NOPE! So HOW can you be so blind as to NOT see the conflicts of interest, etc????? They threw MARTHA STEWART in jail for doing a MINISCULE FRACTION of what some of those IDIOTS have! They ONLY reason to jail the tiny people, like MARTHA is to prevent the LARGE guys from doing it, yet the government is letting the big guys do it. COME ON!!!!!!!

BTW there are MULTIPLE conspiracies that contradict one another. Some may have things that align with my "world view". Do you REALLY think I simply PICK ONE? HECK NO! In SOME cases, like 911, I think the whole thing came together because of ANOTHER thing that seems somewhat separate.

I PREDICTED 911 almost a MONTH before it happened! Almost a MONTH!!!!!! HOW?!?!? Because, with a muslim mindset, IT MADE SENSE! WHY? WHY THEN?!?!? Well, WEEKS before I thought about that, I saw a LOT of conflicts between the palestinians and the israelis. It was CLEAR that escalating was getting to a point where it HAD to stop! The palestinians would reach a point where they couldn't outdo the israelis, because that would affect the neighboors they liked. So WHAT do you do in such a case? GO AFTER ALLIES! And they view the US as israels friend. HECK, I might have guessed the towers would be the target, if I tried, because they were BEFORE! I DID guess that UBL would be pegged for this within MINUTES of having seen the tower film. WHY? Because he had been pegged for so much in the preceding months.

SO, in a way, the towers WERE a government conspiracy! The U.S. supported Israel, and the arabs attacked because of the ties.

Steve

[myob]

OK. Are you taking your vitamins?

[seasoned]

Originally Posted by myob

OK. Are you taking your vitamins?

YEP, thanks for asking! 8-) ROTFLMAO

[Vikuna2009+]

A couple of years ago, because of the strong winds in my area, it ripped my wrought iron gates to pieces and I had to replace it with chain link (which I hate the look of).

One gate fell down on top of my right hand and the forged hinch, ripped me, almost cutting of an artery (1/8" of an inch from it). It was a really deep cut and I was bleeding like crazy.

Put pressure on it and went down to my 85 year old neighbor, pressure applied. She went out to her yard and cut a leaf of aloe vera, peeled it, sliced it, made a to go package for me and applied the aloe vera slice to my cut.

Put some gauze on top of it and told me to change the bandage 3 times a day. I did, and after only one week, it was healed. No scar, no nothing.

Hope that is not going to be included in the CODEX.

BTW, as I have mentioned before, CODEX are NOT the good guys, they are the one's that want to take your money, tenfold.

Regulation IS a good thing but this is not what this thread is about. It's about YOU, becoming a helpless creature, having to pat through the nose.

[myob]

Originally Posted by Vikuna2009+

A couple of years ago, because of the strong winds in my area, it ripped my wrought iron gates to pieces and I had to replace it with chain link (which I hate the look of).

One gate fell down on top of my right hand and the forged hinch, ripped me, almost cutting of an artery (1/8" of an inch from it). It was a really deep cut and I was bleeding like crazy.

Put pressure on it and went down to my 85 year old neighbor, pressure applied. She went out to her yard and cut a leaf of aloe vera, peeled it, sliced it, made a to go package for me and applied the aloe vera slice to my cut.

Put some gauze on top of it and told me to change the bandage 3 times a day. I did, and after only one week, it was healed. No scar, no nothing.

Hope that is not going to be included in the CODEX.

BTW, as I have mentioned before, CODEX are NOT the good guys, they are the one's that want to take your money, tenfold.

Regulation IS a good thing but this is not what this thread is about. It's about YOU, becoming a helpless creature, having to pat through the nose.

Come to think of it, I really think it should be included in CODEX. In my opinion, that type of behavior is totally reckless. You just got lucky when you really should have gone to a doctor or hospital for treatment, after this thing called first aid. And using anecdotal quackery in an appeal to block the Codex should make others reconsider the benefits of having this regulatory body in place. I am part owner of a vitamin/health food store, but I would NEVER tell someone to just use some aloe vera and gauze to treat a deep bleeding injury without seeing a doctor afterwards. I am well aware of the healing powers of aloe vera and several dozens of other herbs, but advocating folk medicine in lieu of medical attention is irresponsible. There is a place for using herbs, vitamins and food supplements, but its place is NOT before doctors to cure illnesses, treat disease and injuries, or diagnosis. This kind of "snake oil" mentality is exactly why we need more regulation.

[TimPhelan]

So you predicted 9-11 a month before it happened, but didn't really predict the towers would be hit although you could have. Your "prediction" regarding 9-11 was that muslims would attack the US because they didn't like us being allies with Israel. You then say you also "guessed" that OBL would be pegged for the attack within minutes because of what Al Qaeda did in the preceeding months.

Uhmm, this isn't predicting or guessing Steve. It's what was in the news. Common knowledge and common sense type of stuff.

You are NOT Nostradamus in other words.

So, in a way, the towers were not a Government conspiracy.

BTW, the attacks were only partly because of our support for Israel. It also had a lot to do with the first Gulf War and other reasons.

Originally Posted by seasoned

I PREDICTED 911 almost a MONTH before it happened! Almost a MONTH!!!!!! HOW?!?!? Because, with a muslim mindset, IT MADE SENSE! WHY? WHY THEN?!?!? Well, WEEKS before I thought about that, I saw a LOT of conflicts between the palestinians and the israelis. It was CLEAR that escalating was getting to a point where it HAD to stop! The palestinians would reach a point where they couldn't outdo the israelis, because that would affect the neighboors they liked. So WHAT do you do in such a case? GO AFTER ALLIES! And they view the US as israels friend. HECK, I might have guessed the towers would be the target, if I tried, because they were BEFORE! I DID guess that UBL would be pegged for this within MINUTES of having seen the tower film. WHY? Because he had been pegged for so much in the preceding months.

SO, in a way, the towers WERE a government conspiracy! The U.S. supported Israel, and the arabs attacked because of the ties.

Steve

[seasoned]

myob,

Interesting psuedonym for someone having such an "opportunity leads service"! I even wonder if you really do have, or ever had, any real supplement business. Vikuna is a better judge of the described problem than YOU are! I'm sure vikuna would have gone to the hospital if it was deemed necessary. And, you know, after the Obama health care fiasco passes, assuming it does, such care would take too long anyway. Besides, you really DO need to apply first aid ANYWAY! EVEN if you call an ambulance, you probably want to do SOMETHING before they get there. It this case AT LEAST clean, sterilize, cover, apply pressure. If you don't, you could get a BAD scar, infection, or even bleed to death.

And ambulances cost a FORTUNE!

Frankly, there is too much regulation ANYWAY!

Steve

[linguistics]

Originally Posted by acreativetouch

Here are some natural substances that already been chopped due to false scientific data or political maneuvering:

MaHuang--used to treat respiratory illnesses including tuberculosis, asthma, lung cancer--dosage--3 – 9 gm. Marketed in US as a "weight loss" supplement, found to cause heart attack when used in excess. Asian physicians have used this herb safely for over 6,000 years IN VERY SMALL QUANTITIES because of toxicity. An amount to cause weight loss IS A TOXIC overdose! DUH! Ma Huang - Chinese Ephedra- Chinese Herbal Medicine, Chinese herb pictures & information (TCM), weblog, discussion board, bulletin board, forums

Hydrogn Peroxide Chinics: Used for about 200 years IV or internally to cure many diseases---including cancer. One death was reported in that time in 2005, there was reported one death. So, the clinics are banned. The Story Behind The Peroxide Therapy Death In South Carolina - Share The Wealth

colloidal silver ban: kills over 600 different viruses and bacteria--including man-made. The FDA and WHO are working on a ban. Educate-Yourself.org-FDA Poised to Ban Colloidal Silver

Cannabis: During the American Revolution, was so valued as a crop for everything from cloth to paper to fuel for lamps to rope to MEDICINE. Was in the US National Pharmocepia until 1929. Cannabis has been used for centuries over all continents by thousands of various nationalities and tribes to treat a variety of illnesses from depression to cancer to chronic pain. Banned as it causes "insanity in mexicans and the dark races" in the 1930's.

Tryptophan: Natural ingredient in turkey. Widely used to aid in sleep, and ease symptoms of depression, anxiety, bi-polar disorder. ( competes with Prozac ) Banned as it causes a deadly flu-like disorder " Eosinophilia-Myalgia Syndrome / EMS ". The FDA Ban of L-Tryptophan: Politics, Profits and Prozac

That is just a FEW of POWERFUL natural medicines that have been X-Nayed from public use because of competition with drugs. Thousands died from Vioxx, and the statistics were ignored. Equal ( aspertaime ) remains on the market and in wide use even though it is shown to cause brain cancer, seizures, stroke and death. Dr. Rick Online: Excitotoxins: The Taste that Kills
Now, when you see a commercial for Lyrica, they put a disclaimer that it causes suicidial tendancies in "some individuals".

This IS Codex slowly being implemented so that the public won't notice the change when it's in full force. They will just accept it and continue with their lives....slowly dying from disease due to being slowly poisioned and malnutrititon while they go to the doctors for "drugs" to cure them.

So, what are going to do? Just lay down and die or take charge of our health and take responsibility of what we feed our children and ourselves?

dorothy
( it's late, sorry for the spelling )

X'd out from public use? What are you talking about, most of the items that you mentioned are very well still available.

[linguistics]

Originally Posted by seasoned

The government has EARNED my distrust! I do NOT put blind faith in conspiracies. HECK, some that I thougt were CRAZY turned out to be REAL! I'm not sure if the reverse could ever be said. NAW. I would LOVE for all "conservatives" to be 100% honest, intelligent, well meaning, etc.... SADLY, that is not true. And some liberals have merely been duped. And I would LOVE it if all americans were conservative, etc... Sadly, that isn't true. I would LOVE it if there was a benevolent force pushing things along for the better. NOPE! So HOW can you be so blind as to NOT see the conflicts of interest, etc????? They threw MARTHA STEWART in jail for doing a MINISCULE FRACTION of what some of those IDIOTS have! They ONLY reason to jail the tiny people, like MARTHA is to prevent the LARGE guys from doing it, yet the government is letting the big guys do it. COME ON!!!!!!!

BTW there are MULTIPLE conspiracies that contradict one another. Some may have things that align with my "world view". Do you REALLY think I simply PICK ONE? HECK NO! In SOME cases, like 911, I think the whole thing came together because of ANOTHER thing that seems somewhat separate.

I PREDICTED 911 almost a MONTH before it happened! Almost a MONTH!!!!!! HOW?!?!? Because, with a muslim mindset, IT MADE SENSE! WHY? WHY THEN?!?!? Well, WEEKS before I thought about that, I saw a LOT of conflicts between the palestinians and the israelis. It was CLEAR that escalating was getting to a point where it HAD to stop! The palestinians would reach a point where they couldn't outdo the israelis, because that would affect the neighboors they liked. So WHAT do you do in such a case? GO AFTER ALLIES! And they view the US as israels friend. HECK, I might have guessed the towers would be the target, if I tried, because they were BEFORE! I DID guess that UBL would be pegged for this within MINUTES of having seen the tower film. WHY? Because he had been pegged for so much in the preceding months.

SO, in a way, the towers WERE a government conspiracy! The U.S. supported Israel, and the arabs attacked because of the ties.

Steve

This is laughable really. Ok, so, I predicted it would happen also, 12 years before it happened I said that one day some of our enemies will fly planes into our twin towers. I said that one day they will be bombed in some sound shape or fashion. Does this mean that I predicted the future? lol, hardly. I just said it because it seemed likely to happen on day eventually. I predict another president will eventually be murdered, now, wait 25 more years and bam....if i am still around, I can say that I predicted it 25 years ago...smmmh

[myob]

Originally Posted by seasoned

myob,

Interesting psuedonym for someone having such an "opportunity leads service"! I even wonder if you really do have, or ever had, any real supplement business. Vikuna is a better judge of the described problem than YOU are! I'm sure vikuna would have gone to the hospital if it was deemed necessary. And, you know, after the Obama health care fiasco passes, assuming it does, such care would take too long anyway. Besides, you really DO need to apply first aid ANYWAY! EVEN if you call an ambulance, you probably want to do SOMETHING before they get there. It this case AT LEAST clean, sterilize, cover, apply pressure. If you don't, you could get a BAD scar, infection, or even bleed to death.

And ambulances cost a FORTUNE!

Frankly, there is too much regulation ANYWAY!

Steve

Seasoned,

Interesting psuedonym for someone having such an abysmal level of naivete. May I recommend you take a daily regimen of Omega 3 oil, gingko biloba, and balanced B complex vitamins to aid you in more normal mental function and acuity. I will give you a discount from my store.

As I had said, first aid is not a replacement for professional medical attention. Vikuna sought treatment for her injury from a local "medicine woman" who happened to be growing aloe vera in her backyard. My point being this is anecdotal, and not a representative argument for blocking regulation such as Codex. And no, we do not have enough regulation as long as this dangerous practice of using folk medicine in place of trained medical professionals continues.


P. S. MYOB - Mind Your Own Business is a marketing tag. I do business consulting. I can only assume that you have no business of your own to mind, otherwise you would understand that this is actually part of marketing.

[Vikuna2009+]

Originally Posted by myob

Seasoned,

Interesting psuedonym for someone having such an abysmal level of naivete. May I recommend you take a daily regimen of Omega 3 oil, gingko biloba, and balanced B complex vitamins to aid you in more normal mental function and acuity. I will give you a discount from my store.

As I had said, first aid is not a replacement for professional medical attention. Vikuna sought treatment for her injury from a local "medicine woman" who happened to be growing aloe vera in her backyard. My point being this is anecdotal, and not a representative argument for blocking regulation such as Codex. And no, we do not have enough regulation as long as this dangerous practice of using folk medicine in place of trained medical professionals continues.


P. S. MYOB - Mind Your Own Business is a marketing tag. I do business consulting. I can only assume that you have no business of your own to mind, otherwise you would understand that this is actually part of marketing.

Well, all I can say, it worked wonders for me. No swelling, minimal pain, I watched my wound 3 times a day as I applied another new fresh layer of aloe vera. Today, no scar, no nothing.

A few years back, this "other" old lady gave me her huge aloe vera plant and she almost cried. She was moving out of state and the plant would not survive in her new surrounding (too cold).

I took the plant to my place and to my surprise, we had a freeze, or maybe I did not water it enough or whatever. Aloe vera WORKS and I am the living proof of it. No need to use a quack (read DOCTOR) to heal, they are all corrupt (even though most don't know it, lol).

BTW, did you know that in the beginning of the 19th century, a group of WEALTHY world-wide men got together and decided to sponsor DOCTORS? At that time, there were NO doctors, only herbal practioneers.

They all got the same deal, basically STOP what you are doing and we will sponsor you to become a DOCTOR but you can NEVER use herbs or any home remedy again.

That is the time when money took over and all else was lost.

When I was 10, fell off a roof, cut my leg on a window frame (construction site), went to the DOCTOR and did what he suggested. Well, 43 years later, I STILL have a scar and when it happened, it took FOREVER to heal.

Yea, I know, 10 year olds are NOT supposed to play around on a construction site but what the heck, it was fun, lool .

Bottom line, it is NOT quackery, however medicine is. There you have it, enjoy .

[seasoned]

Originally Posted by myob

P. S. MYOB - Mind Your Own Business is a marketing tag. I do business consulting. I can only assume that you have no business of your own to mind, otherwise you would understand that this is actually part of marketing.

You have a FLAIR for stating the obvious, implying that someone didn't know it, and then making crazy claims or whatever.

YEP, I knew! Oh well, I guess you REALLY don't know what I meant. Pity.

WOW, MEDICINE WOMAN! How'd you dream THAT one up! ROTFLOL. BTW MYOB, how much do you charge for birthday parties? You sound like you would be more fun than a (NO IT CAN'T BE! NOT a REFERENCE TO THE CTs!?!?!?!?) barrel of MONKEYS!

WHO KNOWS! Maybe I can get the plaides guy to come, and you can try to convert him!

Steve

[HeySal]

Steve, LOL - I didn't mean that Soy will shrink you now -- it causes babies to be born that way when the parents (especially mom) eat too much of it.

You are wasting your time on most Americans trying to get anything through their heads about anything that can be considered a conspiracy theory. Once something is labeled that - most will never believe it no matter how much evidence you get for it.

I was talking about patents for mind control devices once - and was heckled for being a "nut case". Which shows the intelligence level of the hecklers that they don't know the difference between a conspiracy theory and a US Registered Patent. Some people laughed and said "they won't work", LOL - If it doesn't work, you CAN'T patent it.

In the no-nonsense thread it was told that the economy would fall apart in Sept last year and that's when we got hit. Trillions of dollars disappear, the economy goes bonkers - the congress goes against a vast majority of citizens to pass a fascist bill - and we're still nuts for saying someone was stealing money and that the economy would hit the skids. Now they just walk in and CONFISCATE GM, but nope, no fascist activity in OUR country - we're just all nut cases.

I remember telling people 20 years ago that the FED was a BANK and not a branch of government - can you imagine the things that people said to me for telling it? It took freaking 20 years for people to figure it out because they too were busy running around screaming "conspiracy theory" than they were getting facts.

I already explained slip programing to you in an earlier thread. You aren't going to tell anyone that is heckling anything but things are all good and rosy. There are class action lawsuits going on all over because pharms are killing and maiming people, yet everyone is having a voova over having herbals regulated. Follow logic and any half wit should be able to see it is the Pharms that need regulation because it is those drugs that are causing all the deaths. DUH. Maybe herbals aren't as good for people
as they think - maybe they are, but they are not killing masses it's the pharmaceuticals that are killing en mass and they are being allowed -- it's herbals that gov wants to regulate. Um....DUH. You are going to reason with who?

Sure - labeling is an excellent thing, but if it's all about that do we need international treaties composed of the WHO and WTO and a thousand commitees and 16,000 documents to get labeling achieved with nothing else going on?

Obama just threw a 1000 page health bill out and wants it rushed through before congress can even read the thing -- but people are all for it. They know no jack damn one thing more about that thing then congress does, but it's a GOOD thing, right? To even think he could just pull that thing out of his ass in the amount of time that he's been in office is just bizarrely demented (must be all those 10 minute article wonders warped sense of how a bill is constructed) yet people can't see this is something that's been in the works for one hell of a long time, and isn't even hinted at until it is brought out and then is pushed to be signed without reading. Nobody even wonders.

Nobody wonders where the trillions stolen of dollars went. In very few places did the vast majority of people who threatened their legislators that they would be removed from office if they voted for the bailout were politicians not re-elected, let alone removed from office. People can't remember anything for that long - Christ it was over two weeks after all.

Hey - you aren't going to tell anyone in the comas our people are in that there is something going very wrong. Either they know it by now or they are still running around screaming "conspiracy theory". As fast as things are going downhill, these people will collapse from exhaustion pretty soon and the others that realize when the Gov is doing illegal crap theres a problem will be able to talk about what to do about it.

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by seasoned

That is my point! I mixed things that might STILL be considered conspiracy theories with ones that WERE, and are now PROVEN or where a just court would sentence the defendant to LIFE by daring to claim that it is only a "conspiracy theory" even in the weight of all the overwhelming evidence.

HECK, area 51 was once considered some ridiculous conspiracy, and the crazy UFO sightings were dismissed as ridiculous fantasies. NOW, they ADMIT that the area exists, and a lot of those UFO sightings have been proven to be things like the blackbird and the stealth bomber. There is ALSO the "myth" about a DESERT that has cameras covering everything with people that will escort you off "WITH LETAL FORCE IF NECESSARY"! And THAT has been proven ALSO! Montel Williams even publicised that! SUPPOSEDLY, he has top secret clearance, but NOT high enough!

Steve

No, area 51 was never a conspiracy theory...anyone with eyes can see it.

The UFO sitings and ufo crashes were conspiracy theroes, and as you pointed out, they were proven to be the blackbird and the stealth bomber.


so the ufo sitings WERE conspiracy theories.

[Jeff Noel]

Originally Posted by HeySal

I was talking about patents for mind control devices once - and was heckled for being a "nut case". Which shows the intelligence level of the hecklers that they don't know the difference between a conspiracy theory and a US Registered Patent. Some people laughed and said "they won't work", LOL - If it doesn't work, you CAN'T patent it.

Ya they call it TV.

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by HeySal

I was talking about patents for mind control devices once - and was heckled for being a "nut case". Which shows the intelligence level of the hecklers that they don't know the difference between a conspiracy theory and a US Registered Patent. Some people laughed and said "they won't work", LOL - If it doesn't work, you CAN'T patent it.

.

you can patent an abstract thought. that doesnt mean that we do or ever will have the technology to make it. I'm sure if you dig through the patent office, you'll find someone has patented the 'transporter' type device from star trek. But last i heard its not something that can be made atleast with our current or forseeable technolgy.

[seasoned]

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

No, area 51 was never a conspiracy theory...anyone with eyes can see it.

The UFO sitings and ufo crashes were conspiracy theroes, and as you pointed out, they were proven to be the blackbird and the stealth bomber.


so the ufo sitings WERE conspiracy theories.

WRONG! You CAN'T see Area 51 unless you go to a special vantage point, and look carefully and have an open mind. ALSO, people DID think it was a myth in the 60s and earlier. The government did NOT acknowledge it! Wikipedia says they admitted it 2003!!!!!

And SOME were the blackbird and the stealth. WHO KNOWS what they all were.

Steve

[seasoned]

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

you can patent an abstract thought. that doesnt mean that we do or ever will have the technology to make it. I'm sure if you dig through the patent office, you'll find someone has patented the 'transporter' type device from star trek. But last i heard its not something that can be made atleast with our current or forseeable technolgy.

Some IDIOT patented the VAGUE idea for radio email! REMEMBER THAT? He actually sold it to an attorney that used it to extort money from RIMS!

RIM settles NTP lawsuit for $450m ? The Register

Or what about the other guy that has a redundant compression patent that, SUPPOSEDLY, can reduce a terabyte down to one byte!?!? I'm NOT kidding! Of course, that will NEVER be possible!

It is technically illegal to patent a non viable idea, but it happens ALL THE TIME! Many put them up as mines to try to trap companies like RIM. They view that like domain name squatters view domain names.

Steve

[HeySal]

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

you can patent an abstract thought. that doesnt mean that we do or ever will have the technology to make it. I'm sure if you dig through the patent office, you'll find someone has patented the 'transporter' type device from star trek. But last i heard its not something that can be made atleast with our current or forseeable technolgy.

You, who is quick to talk about tinfoil hats actually believe that? Ahahhahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahaah ahahaahahahaha
hahahaha.

Hey - try this line from the actual Patent office under the laws of patenting - then go find that patent number, I gotta see this:

Interpretations of the statute by the courts have defined the limits of the field of subject matter that can be patented, thus it has been held that the laws of nature, physical phenomena, and abstract ideas are not patentable subject matter.

If there is any such patent, the device either works or the purpose of the devise is entertainment rather than being a serious transport machine.

I can't believe the number of people who try to pass themselves off as writers or marketers, and they are completely clueless about copyright, patent, and trademark laws.


Joel - that's one of em, but TV was never patented as a mind control device - it's entertainment.
Don't believe me? Watch the news. LOL. I don't believe that TV was built with mind control as a central purpose. I believe it was just that they learned how to exploit it. And of course, where there is a way, someone will take advantage.

We elect people with questionable backgrounds at best all the time. Then they get together with other crooks and power mongers and everyone is really surprised that criminals will conspire against us when given power. As we have found out lately, when they don't have money to wield the power, they just steal it. It TAKES a conspiracy to steal money in the amounts of several trillion dollars. You think that was individual ciminalism? You think someone can just LOSE several trillion with no clue where it went? WTF? Give me a tin foil hat, please. I'd be ashamed of myself if I couldn't think more clearly than that.

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by seasoned

WRONG! You CAN'T see Area 51 unless you go to a special vantage point, and look carefully and have an open mind. ALSO, people DID think it was a myth in the 60s and earlier. The government did NOT acknowledge it! Wikipedia says they admitted it 2003!!!!!

And SOME were the blackbird and the stealth. WHO KNOWS what they all were.

Steve

but you can see it. You can physically see there is an installation there, and in today's day and age of public release sattelite photos, its sort of obvious that something is located where in the blacked out part of the sat phots. People never went to look for it, they all ran around screaming 'its not there' because they never took the time to go look.

Easy sparky, all that conspiracy thought will rot your brain. its like candy, fun to injest some times, but a regular diet of it is bad for you.

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by HeySal

You, who is quick to talk about tinfoil hats actually believe that? Ahahhahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahaah ahahaahahahaha
hahahaha.

Hey - try this line from the actual Patent office under the laws of patenting - then go find that patent number, I gotta see this:

<blockquote>Interpretations of the statute by the courts have defined the limits of the field of subject matter that can be patented, thus it has been held that the laws of nature, physical phenomena, and abstract ideas are not patentable subject matter. </blockquote>

That doesnt refer to the same abstract thought i'm referring to. I mean you can patent the abstract thought that could lead to something like an invention, many patents are like that.

many patents are of things that we possibly could invent, we more or less have the technology, but they dont actually exist and its iffy that they could. They are generally possible if technology keeps going the way its going.

And technically, we already have mind control devices. I watched a program this weekend that showed a childs toy being sold this christmas that uses 'mind control' of a sort.

But that doesnt mean we all need to move to the mountains and live in caves in fear of government forces kicking in our doors to slap mind control devices on us to do their bidding.

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by HeySal

If there is any such patent, the device either works or the purpose of the devise is entertainment rather than being a serious transport machine.

oh no..its works. Last i heard it transported 1 atom exactly 12 milliseconds into the 'future'. Though it disentegrated.


So we should be able to transport ourselves across the continent like next week or so right?

There are certain laws of physics that at this point we can't get around with a 'transporter'. Thats why the 1 whole atom disentigrated. But yeah, technically it exists

[Jeff Noel]

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

but you can see it. You can physically see there is an installation there, and in today's day and age of public release sattelite photos, its sort of obvious that something is located where in the blacked out part of the sat phots. People never went to look for it, they all ran around screaming 'its not there' because they never took the time to go look.

Easy sparky, all that conspiracy thought will rot your brain. its like candy, fun to injest some times, but a regular diet of it is bad for you.

The photos were blacked out.

By whom? and why?

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by Jeff Noel

The photos were blacked out.

By whom? and why?

by the government
because its there photos, their sattelites, their facilities. They can block out whatever they want.

[HeySal]

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

oh no..its works. Last i heard it transported 1 atom exactly 12 milliseconds into the 'future'. Though it disentegrated.


So we should be able to transport ourselves across the continent like next week or so right?

There are certain laws of physics that at this point we can't get around with a 'transporter'. Thats why the 1 whole atom disentigrated. But yeah, technically it exists

So it worked - bugs to work out, but it worked. There you go. I know patent laws and you will have to show me where you can just make something up and patent it with no working blueprint for it. Show it to me.
THat is exactly what "ABSTRACT IDEA" means -- and I have just shown you the general rule for that from the patent office itself. You show me where I am wrong. If you can patent an object without needing to build it first - but you have to have a blueprint that will make the object workable before you walk in the door or they will toss you out. Until you can make a workable blueprint the damned thing is an ABSTRACT IDEA.

Jesus, Micheal - the line from the actual written law from the patent office itself shows you are wrong - what do you think your dick will shrivel and fall off if you have to say, oops?

Wow this where you start screaming about wearing tin-foil hats. Places everyone.
Bring it down to real dude.

BTW - a milisecond into the future is enough to put it beyond our empirical senses. It might still be there.

[Jeff Noel]

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

by the government
because its there photos, their sattelites, their facilities. They can block out whatever they want.

So what you really saying here is there was some sort of cover up to hide the fact that Area 51 does really exist.

Hum ya gotta wonder why there would be so many conspiracies.

I had a teacher who gave me financial advice, I didn't really care for this teacher much but this really stuck with me.

He said "When you hire an accountant you should always ask him What is 1 + 1. If he says 2 you should get up and leave. The right reply from the accountant should be "What do you want 1+1 to be?

My teacher followed up and said that anywhere else in life if 1+1 doesn't equal 2 then someone is lying.

This is why there are conspiracies my friends things don't add up.

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by HeySal

So it worked - bugs to work out, but it worked.

If by 'bugs' you mean laws of physics to attempt to rewrite..yeah, its got bugs. But technically the atom disentigrated, so no, it didnt really work.

There you go. I know patent laws and you will have to show me where you can just make something up and patent it with no working blueprint for it.
Show it to me.
THat is exactly what "ABSTRACT IDEA" means -- and I have just shown you the general rule for that from the patent office itself. You show me where I am wrong. If you can patent an object without needing to build it first - but you have to have a blueprint that will make the object workable before you walk in the door or they will toss you out. Until you can make a workable blueprint the damned thing is an ABSTRACT IDEA.

Jesus, Micheal - the line from the actual written law from the patent office itself shows you are wrong - what do you think your dick will shrivel and fall off if you have to say, oops?

Wow this where you start screaming about wearing tin-foil hats. Places everyone.
Bring it down to real dude.

you need to think about non caffinated coffee

You dont need blueprints, you need drawings. And technically, you can get away with copies of drawings of your invention.

(a) The applicant for a patent is required to furnish a drawing of his or her invention where necessary for the understanding of the subject matter sought to be patented; this drawing, or a high quality copy thereof, must be filed with the application. Since corrections are the responsibility of the applicant, the original drawing(s) should be retained by the applicant for any necessary future correction.
(b) Drawings may include illustrations which facilitate an understanding of the invention (for example, flowsheets in cases of processes, and diagrammatic views).
(c) Whenever the nature of the subject matter sought to be patented admits of illustration by a drawing without its being necessary for the understanding of the subject matter and the applicant has not furnished such a drawing, the examiner will require its submission within a time period of not less than two months from the date of the sending of a notice thereof.
(d) Drawings submitted after the filing date of the application may not be used to overcome any insufficiency of the specification due to lack of an enabling disclosure or otherwise inadequate disclosure therein, or to supplement the original disclosure thereof for the purpose of interpretation of the scope of any claim.
[43 FR 4015, Jan. 31, 1978; para. (a), 53 FR 47809, Nov. 28, 1988, effective Jan. 1, 1989]

Now if you like, i can go down to the local star trek nerd store and i can get you full color blueprints of a transporter, im even pretty sure you can still get the 'blueprints' for the car use in back to the future showing you how to wire up the 'flux capacitor'.

In those blueprints they will lay out how that particular device works, in theory, however we dont have the technology to overcome the laws of physics that keep a transporter from being possible.

have you ever actually looked at what is submitted for some patents? It looks like something scrawled on a napkin by a 3 year old, certainly not a working blueprint.


deep breaths sal...

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by Jeff Noel

So what you really saying here is there was some sort of cover up to hide the fact that Area 51 does really exist.

.

You mean was there an active plan to keep the place that tests all of our newest technology a secret? That would be pretty clear by the physical placement. If they wanted everyone in their business, they wouldnt have made the base in the middle of the most inhospitable and barren part of the country. What would be the implications of national security to advertise (with sat. photos no less) where all of our newest technology is being tested?

But does that mean they are really holding little green men from space there? No...that is just the over active imaginations of people with too much time on their hands.

[HeySal]

So you think that just because you have an idea that you would like to build something but it have no idea how you might do so you can walk in and patent it. If that were the case half of what is patented would never have been invented because the patents would all be owned by someone who couldn't make the item.

I have shown you the line from the law - YOU SHOW ME where it says differnt. I don't want your damned opinion - I want the PATENT Law - the lines from the law. You can't dig em up because they don't exist like you want them to.

I even want to see the patent for the machine you were talking about if it didn't work. I want to see if it was revoked if it was even instituted and what use the thing was patented under, etc. I don't believe what you are saying because it violates the patent laws.

I want proof. Unlike you I have been in the documents and can find no proof of anything you are saying. I KNOW the person who invented the tri-corder and helped him with his business plan and know the **** he went through to get his patent -- and that puppy WORKS.

Show me the law - show me the law - show me the law.

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by HeySal

So you think that just because you have an idea that you would like to build something but it have no idea how you might do so you can walk in and patent it. If that were the case half of what is patented would never have been invented because the patents would all be owned by someone who couldn't make the item.


I have shown you the line from the law - YOU SHOW ME where it says differnt. I don't want your damned opinion - I want the PATENT Law - the lines from the law. You can't dig em up because they don't exist like you want them to.

The applicant for a patent is required to furnish a drawing of his or her invention where necessary for the understanding of the subject matter sought to be patented;

I even want to see the patent for the machine you were talking about if it didn't work. I want to see if it was revoked if it was even instituted and what use the thing was patented under, etc. I don't believe what you are saying because it violates the patent laws.

I want proof. Unlike you I have been in the documents and can find no proof of anything you are saying. I KNOW the person who invented the tri-corder and helped him with his business plan and know the **** he went through to get his patent -- and that puppy WORKS.

Show me the law - show me the law - show me the law.

You know the person that invented the fictional device known as the tri-corder from star trek? and that puppy works? Really? Me too, hey wait, i have a picture in my wallet

You know someone that has a device that kind of does the same thing and is named after the fictional device, but its not a tricorder.

I've shown proof from the patent office of what they want. Drawings not blueprints.

and why would anyone think someone repeating 'show me the law show me the law, show me the law' after being shown the information from the patent office and claiming to know the person who invented a fictional device that really does work, all while screaming about mind control devices that have been patented and are in the works is some kind of tinfoil hat wearing crazy?

thats just silly...isnt it

[seasoned]

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

but you can see it. You can physically see there is an installation there, and in today's day and age of public release sattelite photos, its sort of obvious that something is located where in the blacked out part of the sat phots. People never went to look for it, they all ran around screaming 'its not there' because they never took the time to go look.

Easy sparky, all that conspiracy thought will rot your brain. its like candy, fun to injest some times, but a regular diet of it is bad for you.

Actually, the LACK of something is not proof of it, and a base doesn't mean there is even any real activity going on. FACE IT! You are just WRONG, and looking to deny FACT! BESIDES, so many years ago they did NOT make such pictures available. GPS was out LONG before the public was allowed to use it, and we STILL don't get the resolution THEY do!

Steve

[seasoned]

Originally Posted by HeySal

Jesus, Micheal - the line from the actual written law from the patent office itself shows you are wrong - what do you think your dick will shrivel and fall off if you have to say, oops?

I hate to say it, but you and he are RIGHT! It IS ILLEGAL to patent an idea without a working concept. You can patent the START of something but, even there, they recently made THAT illegal! You USED to be able to APPLY for a patent. You then get a special permit of sorts saying that you have PATENT PENDING! THEN, you could revise FOREVER! The life of the patent didn't start until it was APPROVED! So WHAT has changed? They limit "forever" to like maybe a YEAR now. SO, trying the old trick could leave you with a worthless patent and help OTHERS!

OK, so how is HE right? He said you COULD! NOT that you may, or even that it was legal, but that you COULD! As I already proved, that IS true. 8-(

Steve

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by seasoned

Actually, the LACK of something is not proof of it, and a base doesn't mean there is even any real activity going on. FACE IT! You are just WRONG, and looking to deny FACT!

Yes, it would be of great benefit to the u.s. military to delegate a tech or two to going through sat photos of the area and blocking out a defunct base. Pure genius!

BESIDES, so many years ago they did NOT make such pictures available.

Hmm...all the years before the internet? Before google maps? Or is it possible that they were available, but people never took the time to find out where to send to get them (dont bother thinking, that really is the case, and they still would have come blocked out)

GPS was out LONG before the public was allowed to use it, and we STILL don't get the resolution THEY do!

Steve

what?!?!?! you mean that military grade electronics are of higher quality than consumer electronics? No way!!!

[seasoned]

Originally Posted by Michael Motley

Yes, it would be of great benefit to the u.s. military to delegate a tech or two to going through sat photos of the area and blocking out a defunct base. Pure genius!

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ROTFLMAO! OUCH!

OK, I have a friend that will ask how something is done, and I will sometimes state a funny way, before sttaing the likely way. Should I DARE to attempt to give him YOUR idea? He might LITERALLY die laughing! I would hate to be responsible for that.

1. there ARE bases that have low use and are NOT defunct.
2. You REALLY think that they would PAY people to TRY to do such a thing EVEN though, to do it, it would be PUBLIC!?!?!? NOPE! I bet the sattelites just block it out.

Hmm...all the years before the internet? Before google maps? Or is it possible that they were available, but people never took the time to find out where to send to get them (dont bother thinking, that really is the case, and they still would have come blocked out)

what?!?!?! you mean that military grade electronics are of higher quality than consumer electronics? No way!!!

WOW, you really ARE funny! How much do you charge for parties? Actually, I came up with a nice idea for a search engine BEFORE the WWW which was before google which was before google maps. If you think that THEY are the originators, FORGET IT! NOPE, they weren't available. Miltary grade electronics are military grade! There is NO SUCH THING as "consumer grade". There is military grade, and normal, and a LOT of "consumer electronics" uses military grade parts. Heck, I used to have a LOT of them! They have tighter tolerances, larger environmental windows,etc....

So NOPE, Miltary grade are NOT higher quality than consumer grade, because consumer grade doesn't exist.

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by seasoned

WOW!

OK, I have a friend that will ask how something is done, and I will sometimes state a funny way, before sttaing the likely way. Should I DARE to attempt to give him YOUR idea? He might LITERALLY die laughing! I would hate to be responsible for that.

1. there ARE bases that have low use and are NOT defunct.
2. You REALLY think that they would PAY people to TRY to do such a thing EVEN though, to do it, it would be PUBLIC!?!?!? NOPE! I bet the sattelites just block it out.

No, they dont just block it out. sattelites take a picture. what is there is what is there. but there are some sensitive areas that are going to be blocked out and rightly so.

WOW, you really ARE funny! How much do you charge for parties? Actually, I came up with a nice idea for a search engine BEFORE the WWW which was before google which was before google maps. If you think that THEY are the originators, FORGET IT! NOPE, they weren't available. Miltary grade electronics are military grade! There is NO SUCH THING as "consumer grade". There is military grade, and normal, and a LOT of "consumer electronics" uses military grade parts. Heck, I used to have a LOT of them! They have tighter tolerances, larger environmental windows,etc....

So NOPE, Miltary grade are NOT higher quality than consumer grade, because consumer grade doesn't exist.

When it comes to some things, military grade equipment is much higher qualitythan civilian grade equipment, it has to be.

Go to you local electronics store, grab one of their gps'. Do you really think that plastic pile o' garbage is made to the same specs as one made for combat areas? Is the cute little hot pink gps the same thing that us airforce pilots keep on them when they bail out of their jets?

If you think so, then you need to get out of your house more often.

[HeySal]

I wasn't talking applications for a patent. I was talking Registered Patents. You don't need ANYTHING to apply. Your app won't go anywhere, though until you have applied with a working device or workable, and by time the patent is given it has to work. Drawings yes - that's what I meant by blueprint. It depends how technical the device is to construct how technical the drawing will need to be to get through the process.

Yes the Tri-corder was invented because Chuck got a voova for the one on Star treck and he got the scientific ed to be able to pull it off. He had bugs in it during the patent pending but worked them out and got the patent. Now when I say a patented device for mind control I mean that they WORK - and you can even track who actually is the inventor and who holds the patent.

[seasoned]

HEYSAL,

NTP didn't have a model! Neither does the guy that "developed" the 1 byte compression.

So you REALLY think chuck can control minds?

Steve

[Michael Motley]

Originally Posted by HeySal

I wasn't talking applications for a patent. I was talking Registered Patents. You don't need ANYTHING to apply. Your app won't go anywhere, though until you have applied with a working device or workable, and by time the patent is given it has to work. Drawings yes - that's what I meant by blueprint. It depends how technical the device is to construct how technical the drawing will need to be to get through the process.

Yes the Tri-corder was invented because Chuck got a voova for the one on Star treck and he got the scientific ed to be able to pull it off. He had bugs in it during the patent pending but worked them out and got the patent. Now when I say a patented device for mind control I mean that they WORK - and you can even track who actually is the inventor and who holds the patent.

There isn't a real tricorder. There are a couple devices that people call a 'tricorder' because it looks similar, and does something sort off like a tri corder from star trek.

but there isnt a real tricorder.

[TimPhelan]

Nevermind. Rant removed. Carry on.

Cheers
Tim

Originally Posted by seasoned

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Steve

[seasoned]

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Were you thinking about Miley Cyrus here? What happened? One thing I guarantee is that you were not ROLLING ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING YOUR ASS OFF, or ROTFLMAO as you like to type. At the most you had a slight smirk. Please, lets try not take up Allan's bandwidth anymore than necessary and we all know you are not capable of ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

It's bad enough you feel compelled to:

SHOUT

EVERY

FREEKING

OTHER

WORD! .......... and....... add a ton of exclamation marks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers
Tim

WOW! 8-) Somehow, I DOUBT you care about allens bandwidth. I'm sure he has a sweet deal.

Steve

[TimPhelan]

Yeh, you are right about that Steve.

Originally Posted by seasoned

Somehow, I DOUBT you care about allens bandwidth. I'm sure he has a sweet deal.

Steve

Val, you said you weren't a conspiracy theorist. This sounds a lot like one of those:

BTW, did you know that in the beginning of the 19th century, a group of WEALTHY world-wide men got together and decided to sponsor DOCTORS? At that time, there were NO doctors, only herbal practioneers.

They all got the same deal, basically STOP what you are doing and we will sponsor you to become a DOCTOR but you can NEVER use herbs or any home remedy again.

That is the time when money took over and all else was lost.

[Vikuna2009+]

[quote=TimPhelan;1002301]



Quote:
BTW, did you know that in the beginning of the 19th century, a group of WEALTHY world-wide men got together and decided to sponsor DOCTORS? At that time, there were NO doctors, only herbal practioneers.

They all got the same deal, basically STOP what you are doing and we will sponsor you to become a DOCTOR but you can NEVER use herbs or any home remedy again.

That is the time when money took over and all else was lost. End quote>



Yes, that actually DID happen and yes, that was a conspiracy. We are all suffering now due to it. Still can't figure out where to hide my stash and have it accessible on a daily basis, lol .....