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Anyone remember Sam Kinison?

by HeySal
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I just watched an old Married with Children episode - and Sam Kinison was in it. It was a parody of It's a Wonderful Life and Kinison is Al's guardian angel. Holy crap - was it funny. If you don't remember this one and liked Kinison and Married with Children - you'll have fun with it. (23 minutes)
  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

    I just watched an old All In the Family episode - and Sam Kinison was in it. It was a parody of It's a Wonderful Life and Kinison is Al's guardian angel. Holy crap - was it funny. If you don't remember this one and liked Kinison and All in the Family - you'll have fun with it. (23 minutes) Married With Children-It s a Bundyful Life Part 2 - YouTube
    I love Al Bundy but he is not Archie Bunker. You are off by about 30 years.

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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      I love Al Bundy but he is not Archie Bunker. You are off by about 30 years.

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      Yep. Married With Children, not All In The Family.

      Nevertheless, it's still funny as.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

        Yep. Married With Children, not All In The Family.

        Nevertheless, it's still funny as.
        I haven't seen Married with Children for years, I used to love that. That's my lunch break all planned out now.

        Thanks for reminding me Sal.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    LOL - it took me awhile to figure out what you were talking about. Fixing that now. Hey - I don't watch this kind of stuff often and I am severely a TV retard. Sorry - anyhow - I posted the right video, so quitcherbitchen.
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      LOL - it took me awhile to figure out what you were talking about. Fixing that now. Hey - I don't watch this kind of stuff often and I am severely a TV retard. Sorry - anyhow - I posted the right video, so quitcherbitchen.
      Yeah, on the surface they seem the same. Their homes were about as large, and they had the same number of kids(apparently), Archie REALLY only had one daughter, but once a relative abandoned HIS daughter,and archie took her in. ALSO, archies daughter befriended a guy he had to take in. Archie was generally in a union, and al wanted to be. BOTH weren't paid much. BOTH were always complaining. BOTH were not very bright.

      But HEY! At least archie's family loved him when the rubber hit the road, and at least he loved them. He appreciated his daughter even if he DID hate her boyfriend. And archie's family generally got fed.

      BTW I generally did like Sam Kinison. A LOT of his humor was taking things that archie, I, or even AL might want to yell about and YELL about them. I wasn't too crazy about the yelling, but he used it for effect.

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    Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

    I just watched an old Married with Children episode - and Sam Kinison was in it. It was a parody of It's a Wonderful Life and Kinison is Al's guardian angel. Holy crap - was it funny.
    Kinison was about my favorite comedian. I loved him. Wish he were still around. Never saw him on MWC, but saw a lot of his skits.

    Here's one of my favs ... Sam Kinison on World Hunger

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Sam Kinison is also my all time favorite comedian. I'm well familiar with his world hunger spot. It's one of my favs from my fav. He was intense and he was hilarious. I miss him. I've listened to all his stuff to the point I know it too well to watch/listen to it again. I was looking for spots I haven't seen before like maybe talk shows etc and ran across this. Had to share it because I knew other people who are Kinison fans might not have seen it.

    Steve - I used to watch both. Not sure why I confused the name, but I'm pretty well familiar with both. Just a brain glitch.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Steve - I used to watch both. Not sure why I confused the name, but I'm pretty well familiar with both. Just a brain glitch.
      Yeah, I figured as much. Just getting MY two cents in!

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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    I'm still a huge Kinison fan. I loved his stand up.

    This was one of the most memorable movie scenes of my childhood (probably explains a few things...):

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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

      I'm still a huge Kinison fan. I loved his stand up.

      This was one of the most memorable movie scenes of my childhood (probably explains a few things...):

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      I Loved that movie! It WAS a good example of how school was/is. Textbooks tell one thing, teachers may disregard them, sometimes because they are just WRONG, and a person may get in trouble for knowing the REAL truth, the teacher doesn't like you, etc..... ALSO, money and publicity can change things. Of course, the whole thing was presented as a ridiculous comedy.

      And this might be some of their best work, sam kinison and Rodney dangerfield. Rodney is one of the main characters in this film.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I never saw it. I like Dangerfield, too. Guess I have a new one to watch the next time I'm looking for a comedy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I never saw it. I like Dangerfield, too. Guess I have a new one to watch the next time I'm looking for a comedy.
      It's a solid flick if you can get yourself in an 80's frame of mind.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        It's a solid flick if you can get yourself in an 80's frame of mind.
        Not a problem. 2014 frame of mind (or absence of one) is what I find difficult.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    As I recall, rodney plays an entreprenuer with a son. His son goes to school, and his father decides to go back to school and ends up paying people to connect the dorms, and help his son. He goes into the classes and one is business, for example, and the teacher leaves out enough stuff that dangerfield's character talks about all the problems that can pop up, talks about bribes, etc... Anyway, he ends up getting a bad reputation, etc... They have plenty of comedy in it. I think it is kind of timeless. A lot of comedy IS.

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    Sam was a fire and brimstone Pentecostal preacher from age 17-24... Dude was a funny guy taken away from us far too early, no doubt about that.



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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    I should have GUESSED! A LOT of pentacostal preachers preach like that.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Never heard him preach before. I saw a talk show once where he talked about why he left it, though. Some of his comedy would be severely shocking to his parishioners , I'm quite sure, LOL.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Never heard him preach before. I saw a talk show once where he talked about why he left it, though. Some of his comedy would be severely shocking to his parishioners , I'm quite sure, LOL.
      I don't know about THAT. Pentacostals are probably more use to such things. I was in a vinyard church once that went a bit MORE pentacostal, and they got kicked out of the vinyard!!!!! As pentacostal goes, vinyard might be one of the most normal(like NON pentacostal) ones.

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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    I remember Sam Kinison and I never found him to be funny, just obnoxious and boring.
    Obviously people have different tastes. I am surprised anyione was ever entertained by him.
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    Kinison was like the 3 Stooges to me.
    I never got the appeal.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Kind of sad how someone could take such a dark path.

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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        Kind of sad how someone could take such a dark path.
        Yeah, the "dark path" of a much beloved, highly popular comedian who made people laugh until tears came out of their eyes ... and who still talk about and miss him to this day.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Yeah, the "dark path" of a much beloved, highly popular comedian who made people laugh until tears came out of their eyes ... and who still talk about and miss him to this day.
          Maybe 3 times in my life, I've laughed so hard that I peed myself. The first time I saw Kinison do his "starving people in the desert" act was one of them. That whole hour had me laughing uncontrollably.


          Mitch Hedberg was like that too. Some people can take stand up to a higher level.

          I get why someone wouldn't find them funny. But I sure did.
          But the 3 Stooges? As a kid? Hilarious. As an adult? I just didn't see it. Weird.

          The best comedian, based on their material? Maybe Steven Wright, George Carlin, or Alonzo Bodden. Bodden could make anyone sound funny. Incredible material.
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Maybe 3 times in my life, I've laughed so hard that I peed myself. The first time I saw Kinison do his "starving people in the desert" act was one of them. That whole hour had me laughing uncontrollably.


            Mitch Hedberg was like that too. Some people can take stand up to a higher level.

            I get why someone wouldn't find them funny. But I sure did.
            But the 3 Stooges? As a kid? Hilarious. As an adult? I just didn't see it. Weird.

            The best comedian, based on their material? Maybe Steven Wright, George Carlin, or Alonzo Bodden. Bodden could make anyone sound funny. Incredible material.
            Kinison could always make me laugh. Richard Pryor was another one. George Carlin got too political and he stopped making me laugh. Steven Wright ... hilarious. Stooges .... never liked them.
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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          Yeah, the "dark path" of a much beloved, highly popular comedian who made people laugh until tears came out of their eyes ... and who still talk about and miss him to this day.

          Yeah, the "dark path" of a grossly obese, cocaine snorting, alcohol guzzling, stripper loving wild man who slept with so many hookers he lost count

          His own brother and manager said that Kinison was virtually high or drunk every single day for a whole decade.

          What a rosy path, huh ?
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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            Yeah, the "dark path" of a grossly obese, cocaine snorting, alcohol guzzling, stripper loving wild man who slept with so many hookers he lost count

            His own brother and manager said that Kinison was virtually high or drunk every single day for a whole decade.

            What a rosy path, huh ?
            Honestly ... you go on being judgmental like you do in most threads. Not my style. I did in fact use drugs and alcohol in large amounts until I quit over 20 years ago. Kinison also quit drugs and alcohol before he died ... and I could care less how much he weighed or who he slept with. Must be nice to have lived such a perfect life that you feel right and good about condemning others the way you do.
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            • Profile picture of the author discrat
              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

              Honestly ... you go on being judgmental like you do in most threads. Not my style. I did in fact use drugs and alcohol in large amounts until I quit over 20 years ago. Kinison also quit drugs and alcohol before he died ... and I could care less how much he weighed or who he slept with. Must be nice to have lived such a perfect life that you feel right and good about condemning others the way you do.
              Whose being judgmental ? Judgmental over some random video here or there that Ive pointed out ? Oh me Im such a bad person LOL

              This is more about you being angry that I would disagree with your views on someone that you Love and admire


              Consuming alcohol and Cocaine over a decade is just plain going down a dark path.That is just fact ..... nothing judgmental about that.

              Did I say he was a bad human being ? NO. So how is that judging someone ? Please enlightened me!

              As far as I can see he seemed like a fun loving guy who had a big heart

              You are kind of being presumptuous aren't you ?

              I didnt do drugs much myself but I consumed large amounts of alcohol for well over 20 years.

              I am the guy at Silverados in Nashville who would come in penny beer night 7-10pm every friday, Saturday,and Sunday with his buddies and put down 15-17 ice houses without blinking. Did it for longer than a decade
              And God knows I had my share of debauchery in those drunken stupors

              Worst all I then proceed to try to drive home sometimes like a idiot !!.

              Was that a dark path I chose and went down , Hell to the YES it was !

              So you say Iam Judgmental and I have " Lived a perfect Life" ??

              It is sad when some people in here try to glean what someone is all about based on some Posts in a silly message board.

              Wow, if that is not being judgmental and hasty , I do not now what is
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              • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                Did I say he was a bad human being ? NO. So how is that judging someone ? Please enlightened me!
                Sorry if I was wrong ... it just sounded judgmental.

                a grossly obese, cocaine snorting, alcohol guzzling, stripper loving wild man who slept with so many hookers he lost count
                I believe we were discussing how much he made us laugh rather than his personal life and habits.
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                • Profile picture of the author discrat
                  Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                  Sorry if I was wrong ... it just sounded judgmental.



                  I believe we were discussing how much he made us laugh rather than his personal life and habits.
                  Okay, okay. I see.

                  Sorry myself too. I get hasty in my replies. And can get long winded too

                  But he reminded me of Chris Farley. Both of them were really funny comedians but just reckless lives.

                  I can honestly say that if I was in that situation of both these guys and had that fame and money when I was in my Twenties and early thirties there is a good chance that I would have done a lot of that crazy stuff too.

                  Actually, I know I would have. Maybe I would like to believe I would have kept it in check but who knows. I can see where it can get out of control.

                  Glad to hear that Sam did cleanup. I dont think I knew that.
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                  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                    Okay, okay. I see.

                    Sorry myself too. I get hasty in my replies. And can get long winded too

                    But he reminded me of Chris Farley. Both of them were really funny comedians but just reckless lives.

                    I can honestly say that if I was in that situation of both these guys and had that fame and money when I was in my Twenties and early thirties there is a good chance that I would have done a lot of that crazy stuff too.

                    Actually, I know I would have. Maybe I would like to believe I would have kept it in check but who knows. I can see where it can get out of control.

                    Glad to hear that Sam did cleanup. I dont think I knew that.
                    In my youth with all that money ... I doubt I would have survived it.

                    Yeah, what's really tragic is he went to rehab, was off drugs and booze for a good while, was really happy about it and got married and was killed on his honeymoon by a drunk driver.
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                    • Profile picture of the author discrat
                      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

                      In my youth with all that money ... I doubt I would have survived it.

                      Yeah, what's really tragic is he went to rehab, was off drugs and booze for a good while, was really happy about it and got married and was killed on his honeymoon by a drunk driver.
                      Yeah that was really terrible. And the guy got manslaughter but served only 1 year Probation and 300 hours Community Service. That did not seem fair.
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    It did really, really sound judgmental. Glad you cleared that up.

    I used to love Wright, too - what happened to him?
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    I couldn't find the quote, but Dennis Miller once said most comedians walk on stage while Sam came on like a hurricane leaving chaos and destruction.

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    I'm also a big Kinison fan and have a couple of his albums. Much of his comedy was him experimenting with human nature. He'd try to see how extreme he could be and still get people to laugh. This was the motivation for his necrophiliac joke, would people laugh at what he considered the worst possible thing?

    In a way his death reminds me of Stevie Ray Vaughn's. They both struggled with drugs and alcohol. Got sober, then were killed in accidents.

    For those that know the area, he was killed on the highway between Las Vegas and Laughlin, which is a really deadly road.

    The earliest thing I can remember him being in was the film verson of The Harrad Experiment. He had a very small role. Don Johnson was also in the movie.

    He was also a decent guitar player. Here he is with Jessica Hahn (from the Jim Bakker scandal):



    The audio is bad in this video, but it's the only one I could find that actually shows Sam playing guitar:
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      The audio is bad in this video, but it's the only one I could find that actually shows Sam playing guitar:
      I hate to break it to you, Kurt, but that's not Kinison in that video. That's Ben Franklin.

      On an unrelated note, I haven't seen you around in a while. I was starting to get a little worried.
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