Help! Need a Warrior's Advice

10 years ago

I worked in an office for 2 years, and NO WAY IN HELL would I do that again. I'ld rather put a bullet in my head. Been working as an employee since being 16 and after that office job I promised myself I'd never get another W-2 for as long as I live.

My suggestion: grow up

You worked (as a teen) 4 years or less (not ful time, I'm sure) and you didn't like working? Awwww ...It's easy to promise yourself you'll do only what you like and want to do - when you aren't paying your own in life.

Seriously - the only way to get past bad decisions and mistakes you've made is to stop making those decisions.

You have been living a typical teenage existence - doing what feels good at the time with no serious thought/plan for the future. Sell your car because you need money....live with parents because you have no money.

This might sound crazy, but I'm really thinking about using what little money I have to get a Greyhound ticket to the west coast and be homeless (I know it's another stupid decision, but I can't stop thinking about it...I'm going insane here).

Aim high! Most people who needed money to get started would head for a state where there jobs to be had - you look for a welfare state instead. Get the ticket - you'd be doing your parents a favor.

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NoWhereToGo

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

My suggestion: grow up

You worked (as a teen) 4 years or less (not ful time, I'm sure) and you didn't like working? Awwww ...It's easy to promise yourself you'll do only what you like and want to do - when you aren't paying your own in life.

Seriously - the only way to get past bad decisions and mistakes you've made is to stop making those decisions.

You have been living a typical teenage existence - doing what feels good at the time with no serious thought/plan for the future. Sell your car because you need money....live with parents because you have no money.

Aim high! Most people who needed money to get started would head for a state where there jobs to be had - you look for a welfare state instead. Get the ticket - you'd be doing your parents a favor.

Isn't being grownup actually reading the entire post instead of assuming I only worked 4 years or less.

Wow, you just want an excuse to be an ass.

What is wrong with you?

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Cali16 10 years ago

Originally Posted by NoWhereToGo

Wow, you just want an excuse to be an ass.

What is wrong with you?

Pot. Kettle.

You came into this thread asking for advice. None of us know you, and you provided very limited information; some of which wasn't even true. Then you start calling several people in this thread "asses", "losers", and "terrible people" when you didn't like the advice they gave you.

What does that say about you?

Next time you ask for advice don't insult the people who generously take the time to give it to you.
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Dan Riffle

10 years ago

You want to live in close proximity to people your age?

You want to be in close proximity of places with things to do?

You have no discernible (from your post anyway) skills?

You don't want to work in an office?

Go to college. You'll meet people your own age, there's plenty to do, and you can sample different fields of study until you figure out what you want to do.

No money? Do what the rest of us did: take the loans.

Don't like that idea? Join the military.

The key point is to stop floundering and make something happen. Actively and confidently manage your life. Nobody else is going to.

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NoWhereToGo

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

You want to live in close proximity to people your age?

You want to be in close proximity of places with things to do?

You have no discernible (from your post anyway) skills?

You don't want to work in an office?

Go to college. You'll meet people your own age, there's plenty to do, and you can sample different fields of study until you figure out what you want to do.

No money? Do what the rest of us did: take the loans.

Don't like that idea? Join the military.

The key point is to stop floundering and make something happen. Actively and confidently manage your life. Nobody else is going to.

Another good post.

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Frank Donovan

10 years ago

Originally Posted by NoWhereToGo

My father is a corporate slave (his job causes him a lot of stress and health issues...I was always afraid as a little kid I'd become my father...a cog) and my mom is a housewife who lives in her own little world. So they really can't give me any good advice.

Well, that "corporate slave" and the woman inhabiting "her own little world" are subsidizing your existence at the moment, so perhaps they deserve a bit more respect.

But seriously, if you're able-bodied, you should be ashamed to be bumming off your folks at your age. It's all very well saying you don't want the grind of an office job, but working for yourself requires discipline and a sense of responsibility - characteristics you don't appear to have yet developed.

Don't kid yourself that you've already had a business. Publishing one eBook and earning $120 in six months is barely more than a hobby. And goodness knows how you've managed to run up any significant "business expenses" in that period.

Time to get a grip on your life. If you're truly cut out to work for yourself, start proving it. Learn a trade or a saleable skill. Or seek out opportunities you can exploit. An entrepreneur doesn't blame his surroundings or wait to be transported to a more favorable environment.

Need funds to support yourself while laying the foundations for your future? Get a job. Forget about what you "promised yourself", and focus on the big picture - your life.

Frank

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NoWhereToGo

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Well, that "corporate slave" and the woman inhabiting "her own little world" are subsidizing your existence at the moment, so perhaps they deserve a bit more respect.

But seriously, if you're able-bodied, you should be ashamed to be bumming off your folks at your age. It's all very well saying you don't want the grind of an office job, but working for yourself requires discipline and a sense of responsibility - characteristics you don't appear to have yet developed.

Don't kid yourself that you've already had a business. Publishing one eBook and earning $120 in six months is barely more than a hobby. And goodness knows how you've managed to run up any significant "business expenses" in that period.

Time to get a grip on your life. If you're truly cut out to work for yourself, start proving it. Learn a trade or a saleable skill. Or seek out opportunities you can exploit. An entrepreneur doesn't blame his surroundings or wait to be transported to a more favorable environment.

Need funds to support yourself while laying the foundations for your future? Get a job. Forget about what you "promised yourself", and focus on the big picture - your life.

Frank

Wow, this is the worst one here.

You must have a real crappy existence to say those things.

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DWaters

10 years ago

My first suggestion is to follow Kay King's advise above.

My second suggestion is that you need to really work on your attitude as it sucks and that is half of your problem. Spend some time at thesecret.tv - this may help.

Third - use this forum to research ways to earn money on line. Social media may be part of the answer.

Fourth - look for a job and help your folks.

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MikeAmbrosio

10 years ago

This...

Originally Posted by NoWhereToGo

I worked in an office for 2 years, and NO WAY IN HELL would I do that again.

Is the reason for this...

Originally Posted by NoWhereToGo

-In my late 20s
-Lives with parents
-No Car
-Lives off a major street without sidwalks
-No public transportation
-Low on funds
-Bad Credit

Kay is right. Grow up. While having dreams is nice, they don't always work out the way you would like. No one says you have to be corporate - do something else. Go back to college. Start an off line business in an area or vocation you are good at.

I made good money on line for several years until I was working so many hours a day that I burned out on the on line business. I walked away from it and now I work for myself in my previous industry, making twice the money and working half the time.

I am now easing back in to the on line world, but on MY terms.

Don't be afraid of work outside of the internet.

Originally Posted by NoWhereToGo

I know I made a lot of mistakes, but I just need some advice going forward.

That's the best I got.

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by NoWhereToGo

First, Thanks for reading!

Current situation:
-In my late 20s
-Lives with parents
-No Car
-Lives off a major street without sidwalks
-No public transportation
-Over six months made only $120 online (net...my business expenses were high)
-Nice community, but it is all families here (no one my age)
-Low on funds
-Bad Credit

I sold my car because where I lived had great public transportation (I know, very stupid of me). I moved with my parents (hard to give up a no rent situation) where there was no public transportation, but I figured I would be able to afford a scooter or motorcycle in time (again, stupid).

I'm a little lost on what to do. And I'm going stir crazy in this neighborhood (like I said, it is all families with kids). I feel like if I had people my own age in the neighborhood to hang out with, it would keep me sane and open up opportunities for me.

If you are wondering about my online business, I had cracked the social media code. I was getting 20,000 to 100,000 visitors per day (no joke). I quickly wrote an ebook to sell to take advantage of traffic. The same day I published it, they updated the algorithm, which gave me about 1-50 visitors per day. But I was hooked and I figured I could do it again. But I haven't.

I worked in an office for 2 years, and NO WAY IN HELL would I do that again. I'ld rather put a bullet in my head. Been working as an employee since being 16 and after that office job I promised myself I'd never get another W-2 for as long as I live.

Really wish I could live downtown where I could walk to places and meet people. But like I said my funds are low (most of it went towards my business) so finding a place to rent is out of the question.

This might sound crazy, but I'm really thinking about using what little money I have to get a Greyhound ticket to the west coast and be homeless (I know it's another stupid decision, but I can't stop thinking about it...I'm going insane here).

My father is a corporate slave (his job causes him a lot of stress and health issues...I was always afraid as a little kid I'd become my father...a cog) and my mom is a housewife who lives in her own little world. So they really can't give me any good advice.

I know I made a lot of mistakes, but I just need some advice going forward.

Hmmm, l hate to say it, but this reminds me of a cash transaction l made recently!

Well, more of a loan to help out a friend, (well that is what l thought at the time).

This is the second hard luck story l have seen here, recently. The first got a $150 donation, from someone here, (or as far as we know) using PayPal, or Western Union!

Never send anything via WU, it can't be traced, and their scam section is a laugh.

Don't offer money without checkable details first, or if you really want to help out, then Paypal only!

Someone calling themselves, "No Where to Go" seems to be ringing a bell with me, or trying way to hard; l mean changing your nickname is hard, or you have to create a new name.

So, l hope that l am wrong, but due diligence if you want to help this person out directly.

But if this is genuine, then my apologies!

If not then sharp knives, and good drainage come to mind!

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Jonathan 2.0

Banned 10 years ago

Decide what you want from life. Write it all down. Create a plan for its accomplishment. Then, start working on your goals.

(Remembering that you can accomplish anything you set your mind to, believe in, and diligently work towards.)

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NoWhereToGo

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0

Decide what you want from life. Write it all down. Create a plan for its accomplishment. Then, start working on your goals.

(Remembering that you can accomplish anything you set your mind to, believe in, and diligently work towards.)

Everyone look.

This is how NOT to be a jerk.

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by NoWhereToGo

I know I made a lot of mistakes, but I just need some advice going forward.

OK, fair enough, here's my advice...

Stop feeling sorry for yourself and GET A JOB.

Life is what you make it, always has been, always will be. Being an adult isn't all rainbows and unicorns. I agree with Kay, you need to grow up. Maturity has nothing to do with age and everything to do with attitude. Your attitude seems to be self-pity. You will go nowhere but downhill until you change it.

Hope that helps.

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Dan Riffle

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Being an adult isn't all rainbows and unicorns.

This insinuates that there are some unicorns to be had in adult life. Where's my unicorn, Dennis? Where is it?

I hear they're not only tasty, but fart Skittles.

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

This insinuates that there are some unicorns to be had in adult life. Where's my unicorn, Dennis? Where is it?

Last I heard it was wearing a bubble suit and heading to Wooster to land a gig in a local film.

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AprilCT

10 years ago

I don't know anyone who hasn't had lots of challenges in life, many much more awful and difficult than others. At late 20's, you still have a lot of living to do, and feeling bad about yourself is no way to go about it.

It sounds to me like you really need to get a W-2 job so you can get back on your feet. It's not the end of the world at all. A W-2 is a means to help you get where you want to go. And, if you can get a job, give yourself permission to enjoy being there. A whole lot of your problem is your attitude.

It also seems to me that instead of your brain making well-reasoned decisions, you do whatever pops into your mind at the time. Stop it. The decisions you make will either help you or wreck you. Think things out before you do them. Especially, never spend money or get loans you can't easily pay back on time.

Do you belong to any club or church that has programs or assistance that can guide you? I know our church has a ministry for bereavement. Sometimes there are free care clinics where you can see a doctor that might help you. I don't know where you live, but perhaps you could check with your county to see what assistance is available to you.

If you think things are tough now, homeless will be more than a hundred times more frightening. If you think you are depressed now, you truly do NOT want to go homeless. That would be a horrible decision. Force yourself to do good things that will help rather than hinder you.

And, just a little hint about the Net: Your early success left you wide open to the search engines' massive changes. You should have set up your business in a way that you could capture email addresses and market to them. There are lots of forums here with a lot of really good information. Take your time to learn the names of the warriors who know exactly what they are doing to succeed and talk about it.

P.S. The search engines will always be changing, especially Big G.

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discrat

10 years ago

Just curious about your Depression ? Is it the kind of Depression where everything can be going just fine but somehow darkness and hopelessness finds you and consumes you..to the degree you cannot explain it or even get out of bed ??

Or is it Depression where you see you have lots of problems so you are depressed about your Life with all these problems ??

A distinct difference.

I am just curious as I know you said Clinical Depression. But is it like the first example I mentioned above ?

If that is the case you can really get some help with it.
I mean that with sincerity ,because it is a living hell to go through it

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Tom B

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Just curious about your Depression ? Is it the kind of Depression where everything can be going just fine but somehow darkness and hopelessness finds you and consumes you..to the degree you cannot explain it or even get out of bed ??

Or is it Depression where you see you have lots of problems so you are depressed about your Life with all these problems ??

A distinct difference.

I am just curious as I know you said Clinical Depression. But is it like the first example I mentioned above ?

If that is the case you can really get some help with it.
I mean that with sincerity ,because it is a living hell to go through it

Clinical depression can be and a lot of times is brought on by problems so the comparison doesn't really work.

Typically you're not just walking around in a happy mood and suddenly get hit by depression out of the blue.

Something triggers it and getting out of it is the problem. Being depressed is one thing and having the feeling of complete hopelessness is on completely different level. I remember wondering why people were able to be happy at times or why can't I just snap out of this rut. It can be debilitating.

Exercise and diet is crucial. I haven't had any problems once I got those under control. That is how I get my dose of dopamine and serotonin which is part of the problem with clinical depression.

I knew when a bout was coming when I started craving chocolate or alcohol.

I haven't had any cravings for chocolate (besides normal sweet tooth cravings) or alcohol since exercising steadily. Not just any exercise but hard enough to get the chemicals producing. Weight training ended up helping a ton while walking never helped even though I always loved walking.

It seems normal depression is overly prescribed anti-depressants these days so I can see why you would ask that question.

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discrat

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

Typically you're not just walking around in a happy mood and suddenly get hit by depression out of the blue.

Actually, I bring up this point because I have had Clinical depression myself. I can tell you in the past beyond a shadow of a doubt this was actually the case with me.

I remember times where everything in Life was really good. Family, home and just nowhere inexplicably I am thinking to myself "how is everyone else around me getting through this Day ? " It would last for a few days this dread that would overcome me.

And Iam not a negative person and have always been positive. But it would over come me for no damn reason.

Yes, exercise can help. But from my own experience there were times that exercise and diet had no effect at all.

It was a matter of just waiting things out.

(btw, I have been exercising since I was 8 years old and ran my first 10K in 1978. And have run atl east one EVERY year since then.)

There are many people that I have run into that were literally at the top pf their game in Life and BOOM....darkness came.

It definitely does happen,

I know it occurs like you say. Probably the majority of the cases are like you describe.

But it does happen, without warning , as well.

I am glad you have had success

. I have been there and know it is a bitch and it is really good to see people overcome it.

Before I had these few bouts in the past I was so naive enough to think that people with Clinical Depression were people down on their luck or people who were not strong willed and were weak or just whiners.... but such is NOT the case in reality.

I have never been any of those things and it still kicked the crap out of me.

There is a bad stigma with mental illness mainly because so many are ignorant about it and quite honestly want to remain ignorant about it and hold on to their narrow minded views

It has been a long time for me . Exercise ALWAYS helps me and my Spirituality and Mediation is a huge factor as well

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Tom B

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Originally Posted by discrat

Actuallly, I bring up this point because I have had Clinical depression myself. I can tell you in the past beyond a shadow of a doubt this was actually the case with me.

Yes, exercise can help. But from my own experience there were times that exercise and diet had no effect at all.

It was a matter of just waiting things out.

(btw, I have been exercising since I was 8 years old and ran my first 10K in 1978. And have run atl east one EVERY year since then.)

Exercise definitely helps. But for some it is not always enough.

There are many people that I have run into that were literally at the top pf their game in Life and BOOM....darkness came.

It definitely does happen,

I know it occurs like you say

And I am glad you have had success

It has been a long time for me. Exercise ALWAYS helps me and my Psirituality and Mediation is a huge factor as well

Well, we have different experiences and based on what my doctor told me there was normally a catalyst that would set off the depression which was my experience as well.

That was why, when I took anti-depressants, it was normally prescribed to ride out the periods of depression. I hated the medication and did everything I could to avoid it the couple of times I actually took it.

Stress being a big reason which is one of the reasons working out helped tremendously.

Man, you may be really unlucky then. I remember the doc talking about a minority needing to be medicated all the time. I couldn't imagine that. I have to say I have never been happier and part of that has been because I am able to control this aspect of my life. I hate to think others can't.

Anyway, running and walking never helped me. It wasn't until I got into the weights that I saw a big difference. That and eating better including juicing. I haven't had a bout in 4 or 5 years now since I started a healthier lifestyle. I do know my body, though, and can tell when I need to hit the weights. That only happens when I take some time off and in stressful situations.

My heart goes out to everyone having this since I can understand.

It's kind of a crazy situation. The way we think controls our chemistry and the chemistry controls the way we think. Try to wrap your head around that!

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discrat

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

Well, we have different experiences and based on what my doctor told me there was normally a catalyst that would set off the depression which was my experience as well.

That was why, when I took anti-depressants, it was normally prescribed to ride out the periods of depression. I hated the medication and did everything I could to avoid it the couple of times I actually took it.

Stress being a big reason which is one of the reasons working out helped tremendously.

Man, you may be really unlucky then. I remember the doc talking about a minority needing to be medicated all the time. I couldn't imagine that. I have to say I have never been happier and part of that has been because I am able to control this aspect of my life. I hate to think others can't.

Anyway, running and walking never helped me. It wasn't until I got into the weights that I saw a big difference. That and eating better including juicing. I haven't had a bout in 4 or 5 years now since I started a healthier lifestyle. I do know my body, though, and can tell when I need to hit the weights. That only happens when I take some time off and in stressful situations.

My heart goes out to everyone having this since I can understand.

It's kind of a crazy situation. The way we think controls our chemistry and the chemistry controls the way we think. Try to wrap your head around that!

yeah I was not on the Meds for very long. It got to the point where I said there is no way I am going to take Meds the rest of my Life so I literally used 'Mindful Awareness' when I had bouts after going off Meds.
( never any up and down mania with it , though)

Using Mindful Awareness for Clinical Depression is hard as hell. For things like OCD its probably better suited for. Really , its nearly impossible for it to be effective for CD. Stepping back outside yourself and telling yourself " oh this feeling of dread is not real it is just the chemicals and circuits in my brain " ...well It is hard because you still feel the dread even though you know there is nothing of 'substance' behind this darkness that invades your Mind.

But I did forcefully do it and over time the occurrences would occur less and less.

Part of it was maybe practicing Mindfulness and part of it was meditation and good support around me.

But you are so right ....for anyone that has to go down that darkness all I can say is that your not alone brother ( or sister

) I been there myself

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ha! I think we depressed the whole OT. Time to spread out the meds!

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discrat

10 years ago

I hear you lol

And why do I find myself going off these tangents so much.

Well, I guess the way I look at it , if it could reach one person who may be going through this or a love one and let them know they are not alone...well then that is nothing but a good thing in my book.

Plus, I think just getting it out there and maybe chipping away at that damn 'stigma' issue letting people know it could happen to anyone is a plus too

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Tom B

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Originally Posted by discrat

Plus, I think just getting it out there and maybe chipping away at that damn 'stigma' is a plus too

The reminds me when I found out and told a good buddy of mine. He told me no way I had it because I wasn't crazy. haha

These things are tough to understand for those that never went through it. Sort of like people trying to quit smoking and me never being a smoker. I wouldn't understand the behavior and/or physical withdrawals.

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discrat

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap

The reminds me when I found out and told a good buddy of mine. He told me no way I had it because I wasn't crazy. haha

These things are tough to understand for those that never went through it. Sort of like people trying to quit smoking and me never being a smoker. I wouldn't understand the behavior and/or physical withdrawals.

I know contrary to what many "OT Warriors " might think (

) if you ask my wife and friends they will say I am probably about as 'uncrazy' as there is lol

Except maybe when it comes to Spurs B-ball and Tennessee football :>)

I suspect you might be that way too. At least from what I see you do not seem crazy

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

With all due respect WTG, you can hardly chastise someone for their take on things when they weren't given all of the accurate information...

Just sayin'

But once more I'll state that I think the best thing for you to do is to start doing for yourself. You are the only one who really knows you and what obstacles you need to overcome to get on with your life.

I wish you the best with it, too.

Terra

Yes, my Father passed away about 15 years ago, and l recently blew a lot of money on a Con artist! She also broke my heart, (but l am pretty used to that, so that wasn't that much of an issue).

So, l could do a petty party post, but it doesn't solve anything, others who went through adversity, have come here, blamed a few members, who ended up keeping their distance, and give the life sucks testimony, then they usually get banned!

I came here and just warned everyone, took a few well deserved slaps, spun it into black humor so at least other members could get a laugh and warning, put it to sleep and move on!

Well, l also got some inspiring comments.

It is true that adversity makes you more determined and focused, but only if you want it to!

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Dennis Gaskill 10 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

I suspect you might be that way too. At least from what I see you do not seem crazy

Oh, he's crazy all right. REAL crazy. He shaves his head, for crying out loud. Otherwise he looks like this...
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Midnight Oil

10 years ago

Originally Posted by NoWhereToGo

My father is a corporate slave (his job causes him a lot of stress and health issues...I was always afraid as a little kid I'd become my father...a cog) and my mom is a housewife who lives in her own little world. So they really can't give me any good advice.

Pretty low opinion of the people who are working to house, feed, transport and support you while you sit on your ass doing nothing.

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MissTerraK

10 years ago

First and foremost, listen to what everyone else has already stated. It's the truth!

Need help? You have got to start helping yourself because no one else is going to and I highly doubt that any of us are thrilled you think welfare in California is you best option.

Need advice? Take what you've been given thus far.

Do you realize that by the time hubby was in his late 20's he was married, had three children and had purchased his second home all on his own with no help from anyone?

If that doesn't give you some perspective, then I'm really not certain what will.

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NoWhereToGo

10 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

First and foremost, listen to what everyone else has already stated. It's the truth!

Need help? You have got to start helping yourself because no one else is going to and I highly doubt that any of us are thrilled you think welfare in California is you best option.

Need advice? Take what you've been given thus far.

Do you realize that by the time hubby was in his late 20's he was married, had three children and had purchased his second home all on his own with no help from anyone?

If that doesn't give you some perspective, then I'm really not certain what will.

Terra

You are coming off all high and mighty...because of another person's accomplishments?

Just because you married him doesn't mean you worked as hard...

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MissTerraK 10 years ago

Originally Posted by NoWhereToGo

You are coming off all high and mighty...because of another person's accomplishments?

Just because you married him doesn't mean you worked as hard...

Well, there ya go!

You just did what you have accused others of, lol!

You have no clue how hard I worked right along with him.

You're forgiven.

Terra
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- NoWhereToGo 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MissTerraK
  
  Well, there ya go!
  
  You just did what you have accused others of, lol!
  
  You have no clue how hard I worked right along with him.
  
  You're forgiven.
  
  Terra
  
  Okay, okay, I was out of line saying that.
  
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NoWhereToGo

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Midnight Oil

Pretty low opinion of the people who are working to house, feed, transport and support you while you sit on your ass doing nothing.

Wow, you're a terrible person.

The doctor said his heart was in the shape it was because of the stress from job. The wife is on meds everyday. It is not my opinion it is the truth.

And how am I doing nothing with my life when I work everyday?

Where do you get off saying things like this? How stupid are you?

You have to be a real loser to send that kind of message. Think about it.

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MissTerraK 10 years ago

With all due respect WTG, you can hardly chastise someone for their take on things when they weren't given all of the accurate information...

Just sayin'

But once more I'll state that I think the best thing for you to do is to start doing for yourself. You are the only one who really knows you and what obstacles you need to overcome to get on with your life.

I wish you the best with it, too.

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Midnight Oil

10 years ago

Originally Posted by NoWhereToGo

Wow, you're a terrible person.

The doctor said his heart was in the shape it was because of the stress from job. The wife is on meds everyday. It is not my opinion it is the truth.

And how am I doing nothing with my life when I work everyday?

Where do you get off saying things like this? How stupid are you?

You have to be a real loser to send that kind of message. Think about it.

Thought about it. Sticking with it.

You basically have two options:

Continue making excuses instead of taking an honest, hard look at yourself and doing something about your life.

Or, get your priorities straight, take the advice people have given you, quit wasting time on this thread, turn the computer off and go do something about your life. Today.

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NoWhereToGo

10 years ago

A little more info:
-I worked for other people for over a decade. So, no, I didn't just work a little and decide this wasn't for me. I've also worked a lot of different jobs in different fields.
-I've been to college and got my degree. Got a job at a top rated company and everyone told me I was doing the right thing. I was never more miserable.

I find it funny, when I was young everyone said JUST GO TO COLLEGE.

And after college they said JUST GET A JOB.

They just ignored everything else.

I don't mind working hard at all (I know it doesn't sound that way in my first post). But what is the point of working hard if there is nothing to work for...

To be honest, I lost someone I loved when I was 17. Not asking for a pity party, just stating the facts. Before that I saved every penny (actually, now that I remember I started working when I was 13/14 not 16) and worked everyday I could. I also took all honor classes and graduated in the top of my class. So I wasn't some lazy kid.

When I started college, I lost my parents. Now I'm staying with the two family members I mentioned above. I call them my parents so I don't have to explain the whole situation and because they help me out and act like it, but they aren't.

I do respect them, but they just can't relate. Why would you say I don't respect them? I was just stating the situation. I think you have some serious issues to say that.

Anyway, I told my family I was depressed, but they told me to just ignore it and go to college and get a job. And I did exactly that. But I'm still depressed.

I've been to tons of psychologist. I give their programs a chance, but man they have no idea what they are doing.

Everyone wants to point the finger at me. I'm just lazy. I'm a good for nothing. I need to grow up. I have a bad attitude. I'm disrespectful. And, hey, maybe you are absolutely right. But everyone loves to lecture and scold others...but they rarely actually help others.

For everyone who gave some positive, actual advice, rather than be childish and take this as an opportunity to scold and make fun of someone they don't even know, thank you!

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by NoWhereToGo

Everyone wants to point the finger at me. I'm just lazy. I'm a good for nothing. I need to grow up. I have a bad attitude. I'm disrespectful. And, hey, maybe you are absolutely right. But everyone loves to lecture and scold others...but they rarely actually help others.

For everyone who gave some positive, actual advice, rather than be childish and take this as an opportunity to scold and make fun of someone they don't even know, thank you!

I doubt anyone woke up this morning and thought, I think I'll go the forum and see if I can find someone to scold. If you think we like dishing out "tough love" you're absolutely wrong. It's not fun at all.

You asked for advice from a room full of strangers. We did the best we could with very limited information to go on. You painted the picture we saw, and most of us saw a similar picture. If you just wanted sympathy you should have said so, or painted a more sympathetic picture at least.

I don't think anyone made fun of you, although it may have felt like that if you were expecting us to baby you. We treated you like an adult, and you just used the occasion to again feel sorry for yourself. You might want to think about how you respond to adversity.

Having said all that, I'm sorry you lost your parents, I really am. That's never easy. I extend my condolences to you and the rest of your family.

I've never suffered from clinical depression so I can't really address that. I can tell you that I believe attitude is a choice we make each day. We can go through life looking for the good, or looking for the bad, and we will largely find what we look for, and our day will more or less go right along with what we find.

Everyone I've ever known who was depressed or routinely sorrowful looked for the negative things in life. They expected things to go wrong. Their miseries were always someone else's fault. They never took responsibility for their own state of affairs. They didn't own their life at all.

As I said before, life is what you make it. Each day is a fresh start. Make the best of it.

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Tom B

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

I've never suffered from clinical depression so I can't really address that. I can tell you that I believe attitude is a choice we make each day. We can go through life looking for the good, or looking for the bad, and we will largely find what we look for, and our day will more or less go right along with what we find.

I have clinical depression. There were days when I didn't want to get out of bed. I ended up overcoming it through exercise and good eating habits.

It's tough to overcome but you can overcome it just like many people overcome many obstacles in their lives every day.

I have a friend overcoming cancer right now. His dad just died of the same thing. If had waited to get tested, like the doctors said, he would be a dead man walking. Now he has a chance, a good chance.

With that said, the OP is clearly making a lot of excuses for this and that. He didn't get what he wanted here and is now attacking people who are telling him the truth. There is an entitlement attitude that will never allow the OP to succeed. He needs a change and it begins with the way he looks at the world.

Now that is tough love.

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Jonathan 2.0

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

We can go through life looking for the good, or looking for the bad, and we will largely find what we look for, and our day will more or less go right along with what we find.

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As I said before, life is what you make it. Each day is a fresh start. Make the best of it.

Well said, Dennis. I agree 100%. And, looking on the bright side of life (and there's always a bright side) is a choice that people can make.

Cheers.

P.S.
Sorry, I didn't read the part about choosing one's attitude.

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10 years ago

I think you should take a step back and write things down. Think about the positive aspects not the negative ones. Focus and take that brave step of acknowledging you have problems but more importantly what your going to do about turning your life round. Pick a business model your interested like I did and focus on it.....results will follow

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Kay King 10 years ago

What is wrong with you?

What's wrong with me? I have no tolerance for whiners and fools.

You have excuses one after the other - and you didn't say you were working nor that you weren't talking about "parents".

You spin a poor me tale and expect sympathy? At your age many of us here were raising families, working full time and sometimes a second job, too - and we were responsible for ourselves.

Yes, you might be depressed but how much of that is because YOU know you aren't doing anything for yourself?

What is it you want? Do you think no one else has problems or challenges? Do you think you are the only person who has lost people they love? Where would you be if those people you seem to have little respect for didn't provide you with a place to live, etc?

You made mistakes - so what? You can stew on them and use them for excuses the rest of your life and some people do that. Or you can put on the big boy pants and start taking charge of what happens to YOU.

It's your choice - and no one can do it for you.
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  What's wrong with me? I have no tolerance for whiners and fools.
  
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kenmichaels

10 years ago

You think being a corporate slave is bad?

Just wait until your a slave to yourself

Real businesses are stressful. Not only are things tough in the beginning
but the real players generally give up everything in the process.

Divorce is real common, friends drop to the side, food is eaten for fuel - not pleasure.
Everything in your life starts to be categorized as unimportant as you fight for your
territory.

Only a few lucky people get to build a successful business and NOT have it completely
take over there lives. From my experience you have a better chance of winning the lottery.

Now that's a slave. If you work for some one else ... you get to go home and leave
all the BS behind when you punch out. When you eat, breathe and live your business
24/7 .... punching out at the end of the day ... heck just having and "end of the day"
becomes very appealing pretty quick.

as far as transportation ... just get a bicycle, it's good for you and when you ride
a few miles to do anything .... it will be a daily motivator to get things done.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by kenmichaels

You think being a corporate slave is bad?

Just wait until your a slave to yourself

Real businesses are stressful. Not only are things tough in the beginning
but the real players generally give up everything in the process.

Divorce is real common, friends drop to the side, food is eaten for fuel - not pleasure.
Everything in your life starts to be categorized as unimportant as you fight for your
territory.

Only a few lucky people get to build a successful business and NOT have it completely
take over there lives. From my experience you have a better chance of winning the lottery.

Now that's a slave. If you work for some one else ... you get to go home and leave
all the BS behind when you punch out. When you eat, breathe and live your business
24/7 .... punching out at the end of the day ... heck just having and "end of the day"
becomes very appealing pretty quick.

as far as transportation ... just get a bicycle, it's good for you and when you ride
a few miles to do anything .... it will be a daily motivator to get things done.

Way to really sell it.

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sbucciarel

Banned 10 years ago

Your father and mother are subsidizing your existence once again and you don't want to work? Shame on you. It's ok for your corporate slave father to support you, but not ok for you to support yourself. Maybe a good dose of homelessness is exactly what you need. You need to put your big boy pants on and grow up, get out of your parent's house and get a job and transportation. Whatever you do online is a bonus, if anything. You obviously don't make enough online to earn a living.

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socialentry

Banned 10 years ago

Ask yourself what Mike Tyson would do.

Then do it.

Alternatively ,go to France and join the foreign legion.

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hardraysnight

10 years ago

QUOTE; I sold my car because where I lived had great public transportation (I know, very stupid of me). I moved with my parents (hard to give up a no rent situation) where there was no public transportation, but I figured I would be able to afford a scooter or motorcycle in time (again, stupid).

i bought two scooters at a garage sale for $5, $3 should cover it, only 2.5% of your earnings, or is that earning

perhaps i could finance you into your next vehicle

you might even find some new friends to play with