Apparently Scotland wants to secede from the UK..

positivenegative

10 years ago

Old news. "Braveheart" wanted that.

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Alexa Smith Banned 10 years ago

That remains to be seen, hello.

Today's polls show about 40% yes, 40% no and 20% undecided.

Until a sudden and dramatic change at the weekend (they were wearing kilts and stuff, before that), the figures from all the polls were very significantly different, with the "no" vote far in front.

The official vote is on Thursday 18th. It can all change a lot more, between now and then: a week is a long time in polit .... (oops, sorry, we don't discuss politics here ).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-29136699 (I see this link actually gives a later poll than the one they were quoting earlier today, with very different figures again!)

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Dan Riffle

10 years ago

I read somewhere that people were trying to sell their votes on eBay.

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Richard Van

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Rmath

They could become an independent nation in 2015 if the vote passes..

Thanks for breaking news.

I had no idea.

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

A sneak peek at the front page of the Daily Mail if the Scots vote for independence:

Daily Mail - 19 September 2014

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Richard Van 10 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

A sneak peek at the front page of the Daily Mail if the Scots vote for independence:

Daily Mail - 19 September 2014

That's excellent, I loved the first comment below it...

is the really frontpage?
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- Kevin McNally 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Richard Van
  
  That's excellent, I loved the first comment below it...
  
  Lol, It wouldn't surprise me to see a story like that in the Daily Mail to be honest !
  
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lgibbon

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Rmath

They could become an independent nation in 2015 if the vote passes..

Yes, and their own language too. Jockanese.

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Kevin McNally

10 years ago

The current polls have the NO vote about 5% in the lead and the people who normally predict these things best ( the bookmakers ) have the NO vote odds on to win the vote. However there is an unknown as nearly one million people are predicted to vote who don't normally in normal elections.

Being a Scot just now is pretty interesting as there is at least for the moment a genuine interest in politics.

Also don't read anything about this issue in the Daily Mail and expect it to be accurate as it's not known for it's quality journalism and often has an agenda.

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kevin McNally

Also don't read anything about this issue in the Daily Mail and expect it to be accurate as it's not known for it's quality journalism and often has an agenda.

I agree with you about the DM, however it might be an idea to click on the link to understand why it was posted.

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Banned 10 years ago

Clackmannanshire result is in...

Yes 16,350

No 19,036

Scottish Independence Referendum result - BBC News

Scottish referendum results: first counts imminent as turnout nears 90%

Live Scotland results: Referendum counts from 32 councils on day of reckoning for Yes and No voters - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

Scottish referendum | Reuters.com

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Adie

10 years ago

Looks like its NO... More hearts will be broken..

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Turnout appears to be quite large as many folks expected.

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Orkney Islands

No 10,004

Yes 4,883

A smashing no vote percentage...

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ForumGuru

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Early reports from West Lothian...

No 53%

Yes 47%

This page has rundown (list) of all of the results as they are reported.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...esults-in-full

This link I posted earlier has an interactive map.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-30592042.html

YouGov's latest says Scottish Referendum exit poll results are 54% No & 46% Yes.

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Shetland Islands

Yes --> 5,669

No ---> 9,951

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

The one thing that stands out (in the councils that have declared so far) is the high turnout of voters. On average around 85%.

As far as the votes go, I'd imagine there'll be a swing towards Yes as some of the more urban councils declare, but we'll see.

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Originally Posted by whateverpedia

The one thing that stands out (in the councils that have declared so far) is the high turnout of voters.

Yeah, I also noted that earlier...

Eilean Siar is in:

Yes --> 9,195
No --> 10,544

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Inverclyde has just reported:

Yes: 27,243
No: 27,329

A difference of just 86 votes. That might warrant a recount.

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Renfrewshire is in:

Yes --> 55,466
No ---> 62,067

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Action Man

10 years ago

dundee voted yes the tables are turning...wait for glasgow and edinburgh, they are the big cities

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Originally Posted by Action Man

dundee voted yes

Dundee was indeed a big yes...

Yes --> 53,620
No ---> 39,880

Totals:

Turnout --> 84.7%
Yes ---> 172,426
No -----> 178,811

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whateverpedia 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Action Man

dundee voted yes the tables are turning...wait for glasgow and edinburgh, they are the big cities

Jim

(A Scot)

As I noted above, I expect the more urban areas to side with the Yes camp. Whether that'll be enough to win overall is another matter.
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- Action Man 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by whateverpedia
  
  As I noted above, I expect the more urban areas to side with the Yes camp. Whether that'll be enough to win overall is another matter.
  
  Good point, I think it will be close...
  
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Totals so far:

Turnout --> 87%
Yes --> 118,806
No ---> 138,931

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Another unusual thing about this vote is there are no exit polls being conducted.

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Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Another unusual thing about this vote is there are no exit polls being conducted.

I posted this earlier...

YouGov's latest says Scottish Referendum exit poll results are 54% No & 46% Yes.

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Frank Donovan

10 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Another unusual thing about this vote is there are no exit polls being conducted.

Yes; clearly exit polls are on the way out.

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Claude Whitacre

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Yes; clearly exit polls are on the way out.

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Damn you......It's such a shame that only a few people are reading this. You're my hero.

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alistair

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Mikaedi

Old Engand still going about it's mother invading ways'..a few countries have won against the english tide..India wouldn't allow them to dictate and run their country, they tried it with the yanks and lost there as well..Ireland has been no end of troubles with mOther england..my god even the friggin queen was horrified at the news of the yes vote

Why on earth can't England grow up from it's colonnistic ways and but out..I look forward to independence of our own country even though the queens rep is one of our heroes/decorated vet.

Our polticians havn't the courage to go totally independent yet.

If England is so bad why didn't Scotland choose independence? Don't tell me, it was Englands fault they voted NO?

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

West Dunbartonshire now in:

Yes: 33,720
No: 28,776

Another big win for the Yes campaign.

This brings the total so far to:

Yes: 232,516 (49%)
No: 241,559 (51%)

Looks like it's going to go right down to the wire.

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Action Man

10 years ago

east lothian a NO

thats where I am from..gees

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10 councils in:

Turnout --> 85.6%
Yes ----> 259,983
No -----> 285,842

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Mid-Lothian a No as well.

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Stirling solidly on the No side.

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11 councils in:

Turnout --> 86.1%
Yes ----> 284,993
No -----> 322,995

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12 councils in:

Turnout --> 86.5%
Yes -----> 335,482
No ------> 381,025

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socialentry

10 years ago

No civil war.

Oh well.

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14 councils declared and it's becoming quite clear the Yes supporters are not going to win the day...

Turnout --> 86.5%
Yes ----> 407,140
No -----> 496,256

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Action Man

10 years ago

probably a lot of them have kids in England..its still going to be close

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Richard Van 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Action Man

probably a lot of them have kids in England..its still going to be close

Yes, yes, that must be it. The no voters have sent their kids to England.

We're like ISIS down here, we've been collecting Scottish kids for months now and training them to call their parents to tell them to vote no.

Never trust the English.
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16 councils in:

Turnout --> 86.1%
Yes -----> 490,817
No ------> 622,040

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17 councils in and the the gap has widened to a 150K...

Turnout --> 86.4%
Yes ----> 521,459
No -----> 670,354

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Here is what it looks like so far:

56.2% No 43.8% Yes

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20 councils in:

Turnout --> 86%
Yes --->779,689
No- ---> 965,790

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Glasgow is in but it's not nearly enough to make a serious dent in the No count...

Turnout --> 75%
Yes --> 194,779
No ---> 169,347

Totals:

Turnout --> 83.9%
Yes ----> 974,468
No -----> 1,135,137

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YouGov said the exit polls were running 54% No 46% Yes and right now we have 53.8% No and 46.2% Yes...

Turnout --> 84.1%
Yes --> 1,068,002
No ---> 1,244,032

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26 of 32 councils in and the margin is well over 200,000 now.

Turnout --> 84.2%
Yes --> 1,176,952
No ---> 1,397,077

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And back to business...

Sterling jumped, reaching a new two year high against the euro in Asian trading hours, as the referendum was called in favour of the no vote. A further rally is now expected when dealing opens officially during London trading while the FTSE 100 was expected to open over 1% higher, which would leave it 60 points off its all time peak.

Jill Treanor - The Guardian city editor

The UK economy, most businesses and the markets will likely all heave a huge sigh of relief that the Scots have rejected independence - and by a slightly larger margin than the recent polls had suggested.

Howard Archer - Chief European & UK Economist at IHS Economic

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fin

10 years ago

Heard the only reason the NO campaign won is because the great unwashed benefit cheats didn't know how to fill in the ballot papers.

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10 years ago

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Mikaedi

10 years ago

Old Engand still going about it's mother invading ways'..a few countries have won against the english tide..India wouldn't allow them to dictate and run their country, they tried it with the yanks and lost there as well..Ireland has been no end of troubles with mOther england..my god even the friggin queen was horrified at the news of the yes vote

Why on earth can't England grow up from it's colonnistic ways and but out..I look forward to independence of our own country even though the queens rep is one of our heroes/decorated vet.

Our polticians havn't the courage to go totally independent yet.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Mikaedi

my god even the friggin queen was horrified at the news of the yes vote

There wasn't a "yes" vote.

The Queen was, as ever, extremely careful to say nothing at all, at any stage, to anyone, which might have revealed her own opinion/perspective on a political issue.

Apart from that, well done.

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Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

The Queen was, as ever, extremely careful to say nothing at all, at any stage, to anyone, which might have revealed her own opinion/perspective on a political issue.

Yeah for sure, only one passing reference that I have seen...

"Well, I hope people will think very carefully about the future."

Scottish independence: the Queen makes rare comment on referendum | Politics | The Guardian

I see it did not take Salmond long to resign (again)...

He told a press conference in his official residence of Bute House that he would stand down as first minister in November when a new SNP leader will be chosen.

Salmond said he had made the decision in the morning after the referendum result emerged: "For me right now there is a decision as to who is best placed to lead this process forward politically.

"I believe that in this new exciting situation, redolent with possibility, party, parliament and country would benefit from new leadership."

Alex Salmond resigns as first minister after Scotland rejects independence | Politics | theguardian.com

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Richard Van 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Mikaedi

Our polticians havn't the courage to go totally independent yet.

I wish you well in getting your facts correct going forward but of course you won't be able to but don't worry, blame England.

And yes, we're like the Borg, all the same, acting as a collective. We all look the same too. We all vote for the same party. Eat the same food, at the same time.

Question though, how does England (I won't mention names as it's best for your intellect if you think of the entire country as one thing) how does England in your book, by letting the Scots vote on independence, constitute us continuing on our invading ways?

Perhaps you should get your politicians to give you the vote. Then you could blame England if you fill the ballot paper in wrong. Like I suspect you do when the sun doesn't come out or you get a headache. Or your shoe laces don't tie up properly.

They're Americans too, not yanks.
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AdamSEO+

10 years ago

Personally don't understand why should they? Scotland has enough of freedom from Great Britain. Being an independent country is not that easy and it can be a real disaster fro the economy.

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Apparently Scotland wants to secede from the UK..

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