What's Your Proudest Accomplishment?

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For me it's overcoming social anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia.

Next it will be creating an Information Publishing Organization to liberate people from fear, suffering, and anxiety.

What about you? (It can be absolutely anything : )
  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    I don't really have any. I've had my moments of joy and little victories, I guess. But, good for you. As Benjamin Franklin stated: "There are three things extremely hard: steel, a diamond, and to know one's self."
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Nothing I can really say I did without some help along the way but fair play to you Jonathan, I'd be very proud of myself if I'd achieved what you have. Good for you and I hope you reach your second goal too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    For me it's overcoming social anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia.

    Next it will be creating an Information Publishing Organization to liberate people from fear, suffering, and anxiety.

    What about you? (It can be absolutely anything : )
    Good for you! Not an easy accomplishment....you should be very proud!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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      Thanks, guys. You're wonderful. : )

      It wasn't easy (and I was close to giving up completely a couple of times) however somehow and with the help of others I made it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jennecarter
    My proudest accomplishment would probably be... How I've been able to realise that I don't have to be the best but I just have to be my best.

    Which is good when you aren't particularly good at anything that will get you very far in life!
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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Funding my 3 nephews and 2 nieces graduate college while I was working 8 hours on my day job and sleeping late on my IM job... That is an achievement of a lifetime.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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      Originally Posted by jennecarter View Post

      My proudest accomplishment would probably be... How I've been able to realise that I don't have to be the best but I just have to be my best.
      Love it Jenne.

      We're all different and unique with all different life experiences, so you can't really compare yourself to other people or their accomplishments. Working on being the best person you can be (by doing your best) is amazing. : ) Happy you had that "realization."

      (You don't have to compete with anyone: Just keep doing your own thing.) Good luck with everything.

      Originally Posted by Adie View Post

      Funding my 3 nephews and 2 nieces graduate college while I was working 8 hours on my day job and sleeping late on my IM job... That is an achievement of a lifetime.
      Very cool. : ) Thanks Adie.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    For me it's overcoming social anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia.

    I hope that's true, and wish you every success.

    I don't know if I'm "proud" of anything I've done. But I sure chose my mate well.

    Everything else was just me doing what I enjoyed, or wanted to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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      Thanks Claude. (It's true.)
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      • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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        Raising another man's son, that he would not acknowledge was his, as if he were my own flesh and blood from the age of 2. Though raised in NYC, with cousins and friends that had no parental supervision and were always in trouble, to this very day, he has never seen the inside of a police station. He is now 33 years old and has a family of his own, raising another man's son.

        I took his mom from being a crackhead in Spanish Harlem, got her off of welfare, put her through nursing school where she received her R.N., sent him to private Christian schools even though I'm a practicing heathen while I tried with every ounce of my being to teach him empathy and compassion for others and how to love himself.

        He is my pride and joy and the best part of it is, he never fails to tell me how much he appreciates the fact that I devoted a large part of my life to give him a chance to make something of his life and to be able to feel that he is truly loved, unconditionally

        Seriously - does life get any better than that and could any many ever wish for more? I think not.

        A close second was volunteering for Vietnam at the ripe, old age of 16 and serving with the 25th Infantry Division in Saigon, Cu Chi, Tay Ninh and Dau Tieng during the Tet Offensive of 1968 where I had the distinct pleasure of fighting alongside some of the finest men that have ever graced the planet, most of whom, sadly are no longer with us. Their memory will live in me, forever, because unlike them, I'm never going to die.

        Cheers. - Frank

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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

      clicking my heels and farting like a cabbage
      I need to know urgently, where can I find a cabbage that farts? I can see some money to be made here. (and an opening for a whole succession of jokes and anecdotes)
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        I need to know urgently, where can I find a cabbage that farts? I can see some money to be made here. (and an opening for a whole succession of jokes and anecdotes)

        Try Nintendo - farting cabbages



        Here's a thought for you...




        But poor Jonathan! We've derailed his inspirational thread.


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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

      For me it's overcoming social anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia.
      I have no accomplishments that can match that one; you should be proud of yourself.

      Frank, too (above).

      Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

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      And you, Sir, need to learn to take better care of your shoes.

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  • Profile picture of the author fin
    Probably beating about a hundred people to win an award when I was going through basic training in the air force.

    I hated the air force so much by the end I sold it on eBay for £1 lol
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Gosh, I honestly can't think of anything in particular that I'm proud of. There are no great accomplishments that come to mind.

      I don't know, I just feel like I'm a falling star lost in a sea of millions. Never the brightest you see, nor one you cast your dreams upon, but I keep shining just the same and hope that I can at least add a little sparkle to those that are gazing into darkness and happen to spot me.

      Does that make any sense? lol

      But Jonathan, I am very proud of you!!


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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        Gosh, I honestly can't think of anything in particular that I'm proud of. There are no great accomplishments that come to mind.

        I don't know, I just feel like I'm a falling star lost in a sea of millions. Never the brightest you see, nor one you cast your dreams upon, but I keep shining just the same and hope that I can at least add a little sparkle to those that are gazing into darkness and happen to spot me.

        Does that make any sense? lol

        But Jonathan, I am very proud of you!!


        Terra
        Terra - you have a contented husband and sane children. If you don't call that an accomplishment - I don't know what the heck you're aiming for.

        Claude - Ditto. I'd be rich if I'd had that kind of common sense when it came to men. The one that was the right one died, and there's not much I can do about that - but if there's a loser out there that will crash my stability, I know how to find him. Now I just stay away. Someday, maybe. I'm hoping I've earned enough sense to make the next one the right one if I spot him.

        Johnathan - Three Cheers. Keep it rolling, guy!

        Frank - you've earned your pride. The hard way.

        Me? I've got some health accomplishments. Everyone knows about my dog - but I was in dire straights a few times myself. I was so sick through high school that I almost flunked out. By the time I got to college, I was well and focused enough to get through on the Dean's list.........and enjoyed it thoroughly. Then I got real sick again and had to fight back to normal again.

        My real pride, though, is being considered an expert in the field I love, which is an extremely male dominated field - rock and gem hunting. I have the guys calling me requesting invites to hunt with me. They joke about me now - a flattering joke - about some of the roads I've taken them on. When their rigs won't make it - we leave them and they ride with me..........and I take them where they find stuff that makes them tingle all the way to their toes. I'm known for being "surreal" at finding things.

        It was hard knocks and 30 years getting the expertise that gets that respect, but man, it's been fun getting there. My latest conquest was green petrified wood. It's rare and known diggs are wiped out. I just landed a site that has been completely overlooked and am hauling in stuff I can't believe.

        I'm sure I'm not the only one in here that gets this kind of respect and notoriety in their field. It's just a kick when you get good enough at what you love to do to the the others in that field drop YOUR name when they're trying to impress people.

        Everyone in this thread has good reason to be excited about what they've done.
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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          My real pride, though, is being considered an expert in the field I love, which is an extremely male dominated field - rock and gem hunting. I have the guys calling me requesting invites to hunt with me. They joke about me now - a flattering joke - about some of the roads I've taken them on. When their rigs won't make it - we leave them and they ride with me..........and I take them where they find stuff that makes them tingle all the way to their toes. I'm known for being "surreal" at finding things.

          It was hard knocks and 30 years getting the expertise that gets that respect, but man, it's been fun getting there. My latest conquest was green petrified wood. It's rare and known diggs are wiped out. I just landed a site that has been completely overlooked and am hauling in stuff I can't believe.
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          When I first saw you Posts about hunting for rocks and gems I naively thought you were just joking.

          After all how much can someone get into Rocks and Gems ?

          But now that you talk about it , it is enlightening to know that there is more than I thought there was to it.

          Much more.

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          And that is really awesome you have such passion for it. There are so many people who go thru the Life and have no Passion for much of anything.

          And its wonderful when you find something and it really is fulfilling for you.
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          • Profile picture of the author HeySal
            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            When I first saw you Posts about hunting for rocks and gems I naively thought you were just joking.

            After all how much can someone get into Rocks and Gems ?

            But now that you talk about it , it is enlightening to know that there is more than I thought there was to it.

            Much more.

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            And that is really awesome you have such passion for it. There are so many people who go thru the Life and have no Passion for much of anything.

            And its wonderful when you find something and it really is fulfilling for you.
            The US is full of precious and semi-precious gems - diamonds, aquamarine, corundum (rubies and sapphires), topaz, garnet, emerald, opal, agate (some of my favorite stones), petrified wood, fossils. etc and so on. There are 8000 minerals and thousands are in the US.

            Here's some pics from one of my trips this summer - this guy is a commercial rock dealer/hunter. His truck wouldn't make it up the hill so I drove him up. We got several hundred pounds of rock - some over a hundred pounds each. At the bottom of the hill we transferred them into his truck - the one in the pic is about 160 lbs. Below it is a pic of what the material is when it's cut - moss agate in rhyolite. This is why people love it when I say - "hey sure you can go with me".



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            • Profile picture of the author discrat
              Can this be lucrative, financially speaking ?

              And have you come across some valuable stones and gems that have fetched good prices ?
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              • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
                Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                Can this be lucrative, financially speaking ?

                And have you come across some valuable stones and gems that have fetched good prices ?
                Considering how much ugly chunks of plastic cost, I'd reckon so...
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              • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                Originally Posted by discrat View Post

                Can this be lucrative, financially speaking ?

                And have you come across some valuable stones and gems that have fetched good prices ?
                Precious and semi-precious gems? Yes, they can be very lucrative. I know several people who make a living solely on stones. Of course, they also have lapidary equipment. I don't have any at the time, and it's spendy - but I have friends on my forums who cut the rock for me for part of the material, so it only costs me indirectly.

                An agate might be worth 50 cents to hundreds of dollars depending on the stone, size, quality, etc. One fairburn agate (13 lbs) just sold for around $15,000 bucks. Needless to say - you have to be good at finding the stuff. If it were all that common and easy to find, it wouldn't be worth much.

                Now take your average 5 dollar agate - you slab it into, say 4 slabs and suddenly you have 4 slabs worth 5 to 20 bucks apiece - now take those 4 slabs and make cabochons, and you are looking at up to 100 bucks a cab - most going for between 10 and 40 bucks each. Say you only get 2 good cabs out of each slab. That's still an expensive rock, huh? That's only agate (semi-precious). You can also find precious gems. . It's creative satisfaction - and if you are finding your own stones rather than buying or trading - that's a lot of outdoor adventure/treasure hunting.

                Most people are only hobby collectors. Since that damned show ...something Treasures... came on,, people think they will become automatically rich if they find something and are destroying land at a crazy pace. A lot of it is getting shut down. So don't take my post to say "anyone can get rich at this". You most likely can't - but with enough time and expertise and a knack for either working or finding the stones, and good networking within the community, you can make a decent living.
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          Terra - you have a contented husband and sane children. If you don't call that an accomplishment - I don't know what the heck you're aiming for.

          Everyone in this thread has good reason to be excited about what they've done.
          You know what Sal? You're absolutely right!

          I'm proud that I have been married for 31 years and have a husband that I adore and who adores me. And as for my children, yes, I'm very proud of them!

          And that reminds me of what I feel is my greatest accomplishment...

          And that is fighting with every ounce of my being and singlehandedly taking on the whole Board of Education and winning that battle, saving my son from being drugged into drooling submission; from being falsely labeled as ADHD when he really was just a child with an extremely high IQ, and a kinesthetic learner with high creativity.

          You know, in thinking back on that time, I realize that that experience also revolutionized me, changing me from always being polite and respectful to those in authority no matter what and releasing the feist and fire from within me. And that has certainly made life much more fun! =)


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          • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            You know, in thinking back on that time, I realize that that experience also revolutionized me, changing me from always being polite and respectful to those in authority no matter what and releasing the feist and fire from within me. And that has certainly made life much more fun! =)


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            • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

              Give 'em hell, Terra. Always!

              Cheers. - Frank
              And oh how I do, when it's necessary of course.

              From that time on, I got the nickname "Mama Bear", because when you messed with my cubs, my teeth and claws came out, lol!

              And well, that has carried over to all other areas of my life too. You don't mess with me and mine and get away with it!


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          • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            You know what Sal? You're absolutely right!

            I'm proud that I have been married for 31 years and have a husband that I adore and who adores me. And as for my children, yes, I'm very proud of them!

            And that reminds me of what I feel is my greatest accomplishment...

            And that is fighting with every ounce of my being and singlehandedly taking on the whole Board of Education and winning that battle, saving my son from being drugged into drooling submission; from being falsely labeled as ADHD when he really was just a child with an extremely high IQ, and a kinesthetic learner with high creativity.

            You know, in thinking back on that time, I realize that that experience also revolutionized me, changing me from always being polite and respectful to those in authority no matter what and releasing the feist and fire from within me. And that has certainly made life much more fun! =)


            Terra
            I guess my mother also helped spare me of a lifetime on Ritalin and whatever other addictive drugs they tried to push on me a small weird child. I certainly favor social, environmental and perhaps nutritional approaches helping folks with autism over strong addictive medication, if possible.

            I have no idea how life will unfold for my son who is so young, but so far so good. Good for you for doing so well with your kids and family.
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            • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
              Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

              I guess my mother also helped spare me of a lifetime on Ritalin and whatever other addictive drugs they tried to push on me a small weird child. I certainly favor social, environmental and perhaps nutritional approaches helping folks with autism over strong addictive medication, if possible.

              I have no idea how life will unfold for my son who is so young, but so far so good. Good for you for doing so well with your kids and family.
              Thank you, TB!

              My praises to your mother!

              And as far as your son? I think you'll be just as diligent as your mother was with you and do a fantastic job! From what I've seen thus far here on the forum, you already are.
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          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          Frank - you've earned your pride. The hard way.
          I do everything the hard way and have no one to blame for that, but myself. lol I rarely consider anything that can be done easily, worth doing.

          For me, it's about overcoming the challenge - and the fear that generally comes along with it.

          Thanks for your kind words. :-)

          Cheers. - Frank
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          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          Terra - you have a contented husband and sane children. If you don't call that an accomplishment - I don't know what the heck you're aiming for.

          Claude - Ditto. I'd be rich if I'd had that kind of common sense... <snip>
          I was wondering when someone would chime in with a post like yours offering some praise for others, especially for those who say they have nothing special to be proud of. I almost did but then decided to watch the thread for a while instead.

          I'm sure everyone has things the rest of us would consider worthy of being proud of, but choose not to say what it is for some reason. I really hope it's not because you don't think you've done anything worthwhile.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    For me it's overcoming social anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia.

    Next it will be creating an Information Publishing Organization to liberate people from fear, suffering, and anxiety.

    What about you? (It can be absolutely anything : )

    I'd like to make a statement here before answering the question about my proudest accomplishment.

    First of all, if you have truly overcome these obstacles, I'm very happy for you. I personally have years of experience with the suffering associated with social anxiety, depression and other issues.

    That being said, as I already expressed in my PM to you, it concerns me how your message is being sent. I don't want anyone here or anywhere else to think that ALL depression is something that can be simply overcome, or overcome at all.

    The recent death of Robin Williams brought a serious problem to light for the 16 million people in the U.S. alone who suffer from depression. That's not including any of the types of anxieties, schizophrenia, PTSD or other disorders.

    There are actually 9 different types of depression, so simply saying that you've "overcome depression" might lead someone to mistakenly believe that just because you've done it, others should be able to do it too, where their's may be very different. It would only take ONE mistake made by some well meaning friend or relative that could lead to another suicide that could have been avoided.

    I highly recommend that everyone educate themselves on this!

    Here's a link that provides an overview of the 9 different types of depression.

    9 Depression Types to Know - Depression Center - Everyday Health

    Last I heard, there are currently TEN different classifications of antidepressents, so obviously one size doe NOT fit all.

    In addition, there are also FIVE different types of schizophrenia. Learn about them below.

    Types of Schizophrenia: Paranoid, Residual, and More

    Once again, I'm extrememely happy if you were able to do this. I just don't want anyone else to take your experience as the norm, because it's far from it.

    I would be interested in learning how you did it.

    I just wanted to make sure that everyone understands that these conditions can be VERY serious and shouldn't be taken lightly.

    Once again, if anyone is ever in doubt, PLEASE educate yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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      Hi Joe,

      Yes, it's an important subject. So Thank You for your comments/contribution.

      Like I mentioned in another post, it wasn't easy at all. In fact on more than one occasion (like I mentioned in my PM) I was seriously considering suicide. Today I would never even contemplate doing that because I appreciate how wonderful and amazing life can be. Even some days I still suffer from mild symptoms of (Paranoid) Schizophrenia.

      Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

      Once again, I'm extrememely happy if you were able to do this. I just don't want anyone else to take your experience as the norm, because it's far from it.

      I would be interested in learning how you did it.
      Sure. : )

      1. Help from my Social Worker: (She was a wonderful Lady who helped me out tremendously for over half a decade.)
      2. Medication (Today I'm still on medication and it's been a real "life saver.")
      3. Help from my Family (They never gave up on me and supported me especially when I was in Hospital.)
      4. For a great percentage of the time, remaining positive and being determined.
      5. Through suffering. (I wrote a post/article that explains how "suffering" can liberate the human mind.) Here's a quotation:

      We all have "psychological attachments" that include our ambitions, beliefs, knowledge, past achievements, success, career, roles, possessions, and so on ... These attachments are a structure that supports the ego and we use them to feel stronger, more secure, and give us a sense of (illusionary) importance.

      Through suffering and turmoil these attachments become broken and with them the ego breaks down too. Like a fragile building without any scaffolding the ego comes crashing down. However if we let go and accept our predicament this emotional breakdown can transform from one of desolation to liberation.

      By dissolving the ego, and reaching a state of "detachment" you become desireless and in touch with your "Higher Self." (In Buddhism this can be accomplished through meditation.)

      Rather than a breakdown you have what might be called a break-up. (A temporary shift to a higher level of being and "consciousness.") Often with psychological disorders the "self-system" dissolves so that it can it can no longer perform normal functions.

      With higher states of consciousness, though, there is still a sense of "self" however it's a different kind of self. Rather than breaking apart, it re-formed itself. Rather than disintegrating, it reacted to the intense stress by reintegrating itself.

      With the ego and psychological attachments dissolved suddenly the flood gates open and the "Higher Self" is free to flow through your mind.

      This "Higher Self" is our truest, deepest nature: Where true happiness stems from.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...g-turmoil.html
      HTH. : )
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
        Hi Jonathan,

        Thanks for the detailed explanation. From what you've shared in your post, it sounds like a better term for your situation was that you've found a way to "manage" your problems, not "overcome" them, by using a combination of medication, having a great support group and faith in a higher power.

        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Even some days I still suffer from mild symptoms of (Paranoid) Schizophrenia.

        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        1. Help from my Social Worker: (She was a wonderful Lady who helped me out tremendously for over half a decade.)
        2. Medication (Today I'm still on medication and it's been a real "life saver.")
        3. Help from my Family (They never gave up on me and supported me especially when I was in Hospital.)
        4. For a great percentage of the time, remaining positive and being determined.

        This is what I suspected and why I felt it was so important to clarify things. Many people with these problems already feel totally isolated. They don't feel like they can talk to anyone because they wouldn't understand or might percieve them as being weak or even criticize them, which can be extremely dangerous. So although your situation does provide a ray of light that there is hope for some people, I really believe that you should clarify your statement so there's no confusion.

        Once again, I'm really glad that you're feeling better. :-)

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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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          Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

          From what you've shared in your post, it sounds like a better term for your situation was that you've found a way to "manage" your problems, not "overcome" them, by using a combination of medication, having a great support group and faith in a higher power.
          No. I think "overcome" is the correct word. (If you would have seen how I was several years ago you would probably agree.) If people want to call it "managed" that's fine too.

          I definitely agree that with medication, a support group, etc. there's a good chance people can learn to either "manage" or "overcome" their situations as well. : )
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          • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            No. I think "Overcome" is the correct word. (If you would have seen how I was several years ago you would probably agree.) If people want to call it "managed" that's fine too.

            I definitely agree that with medication, a support group, etc. people can learn to either "manage" or "overcome" their situations as well. : )
            If you're taking medications and still suffer from mild symptoms of (Paranoid) Schizophrenia you're not "cured". That's my point. You're making it sound like you've discovered a cure and that's simply not true if you still have episodes and are still taking meds.

            I'm not trying to tear down your accomplishments. It's the way you're sharing them that concerns me.

            Once again, I just don't want others to get false hope. There is no "cure" for these disorders.
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            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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              Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

              Once again, I just don't want others to get false hope. There is no "cure" for these disorders.
              That's simply not true. Many people recover from Schizophrenia completely and no longer have to take medication. Fact. As for social anxiety and depression I no longer suffer from them and I'm "cured."

              Please don't turn a good thread into a petty argument.
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              • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                That's simply not true. Many people recover from Schizophrenia completely and no longer have to take medication. Fact. As for social anxiety and depression I no longer suffer from them and I'm "cured."

                Please don't turn a good thread into a petty argument.
                Jonathan, not to be argumentative, but your premise for your conclusion is totally flawed. You will never find a mental health professional to ever use the word cured as it pertains to many, if not all, psychological disorders and that is because they rarely know the cause of such conditions. The general term used is 'no longer exhibiting the symptoms' of a particular disorder.

                Additionally, you must understand that the actions taken to help you regain any semblance of normalcy may not be effective on any other individual, such as relying on a higher power. That you believe this is partially responsible for your 'cure' is nothing more than your assumption and your perspective.

                I have been treated for wide range of psychiatric disorders, probably for longer than you have been alive. What has 'worked' for you has been worthless for me.

                While I am quite able to function on a daily basis (though some would say that is highly debatable), that has been achieved by nothing more profound than a personal discovery about how to 'cope' with my condition.

                I discuss this with my shrink on a weekly basis and we both agree that overcoming mental illness, unless rooted in an actual physical brain injury, is usually achieved through nothing more than living long enough to be able to learn how to live with one's condition. Granted, schizophrenia is one of the more serious conditions and will usually require a medication regimen, but the meds don't actually cure anything.

                Of course there is a wide range of conditions and the degree to which they affect each person, but stating facts that can give hope to others can be harmful to those that you are hold out hope to. Some people will never 'get better' regardless of the medication and some people will show improvement, without meds. These are mysteries. There are no hard and fast rules, certainties and guaranteed outcomes. The clinical term is, 'managed.' This is also what is meant by 'developing coping skills.'

                No one has ever been cured of any mental illness because the fact remains that although you may not exhibit signs of same for up to decades, a person can wake up one day to be as sick as they once were, regardless of the amount of time that has elapsed. It's very much akin to being in remission for cancer. That does not mean that a person does not have a strong likelihood of being stricken at any point in the future.

                Blanket statements serve no one. Of course you want to make them to support your continued recovery, but if you think about it they should always be prefaced with, "As it relates to me," or, "In my personal experience," because in the end, it's just that - personal and has no true significance for any other person on the planet. If it did everyone suffering the debilitating effects of mental illness would simply follow your course of action and the entire world would be cured. To profess that belief is, well, I don't know how else to put this - delusional.

                I truly wish you continued success with learning to cope. In reality, the ability to do so should afford you more hope and increased self-confidence than choosing to believe that it was meds or a higher power that is responsible for your improvement. Take some credit for being instrumental in turning your life around through the sheer force of your own will. You deserve it :-)

                Cheers. - Frank

                P.S. I realize that you did not mention a higher power in your post. I confused that with "higher self' but am too lazy to rewrite my post. I think you get my drift. :-)
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                • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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                  Thanks for sharing your experience, Frank.

                  Yeah, I mistyped the post you quoted. What I meant to communicate was that some people experience complete "remission" of their Schizophrenia. It wasn't my intention to suggest that I have been cured or that other people can be cured, just that I managed to come to terms/cope/overcome/whatever my illness and lead a normal, successful life. : )

                  And, today with the medication and social support, there's a good chance other people can too.
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                  • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                    Thanks for sharing your experience, Frank.
                    You're very welcome. :-)

                    Yeah, I mistyped the post you quoted. What I meant to communicate was that some people experience complete "remission" of their Schizophrenia. It wasn't my intention to suggest that I have been cured or that other people can be cured, just that I managed to come to terms/cope/overcome/whatever my illness and lead a normal, successful life. : )

                    And, today with the medication and social support, there's a good chance other people can too.
                    That is very true and it's important for those among us that feel the most helpless, to be constantly reminded of that fact.

                    Cheers. - Frank
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            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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              Originally Posted by Joe Stewart View Post

              I'm not trying to tear down your accomplishments. It's the way you're sharing them that concerns me.
              Well fair enough. Let's just agree to disagree with the terminology that I used.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Stewart
    My proudest accomplishment would be my kids. Not trying to brag. It has nothing to do with their financial or social status.

    My wife, ex-wife and I have all worked hard to make sure that they're decent, respectful, caring people. Simple things like opening the door for someone, wiping their feet before entering a building or home, saying please, thank you, you're welcome, etc. Treating others with respect, sharing with others, trying to be a friend to those that others ridicule and on and on.

    I'm also proud of the fact I've been able to separate myself from a "welfare minded" family and start earning a living by building businesses of my own. All have crashed except the current one, but the words "quit" and "can't" aren't normally in my vocabulary. I've definitely learned a lot along the way and haven't had to punch a time clock for over 14 years now.

    That about sums it up.

    Next? :-)
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    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    For me it's overcoming social anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia.

    Next it will be creating an Information Publishing Organization to liberate people from fear, suffering, and anxiety.

    What about you? (It can be absolutely anything : )
    finding the happiness and joy I had in my youth again

    bless

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    • Profile picture of the author Phillip Blackwell
      Good for you Jonathan. I think "overcome" is the right word also. At least that's how I feel about myself. Even if it's still there you can still overcome it. My back pain is still there but if I don't let it prevent me from doing what I want, I've overcome it.

      To answer your question about my proudest accomplishment.. for me it's figuring out a way to get motivated to get out of bed in the morning and be excited about working. It took me a long time to figure it out.

      I've pretty much overcome chronic fatigue syndrome and what I think was depression, and I am winning my continual battle with chronic myofascial pain syndrome and degenerative disc disease. I first injured my back 17 years ago, then every two years until I had a serious accident and ended up in the hospital. But I've been able to make money online a few ways, including consulting for local businesses. I never had to rely on disability income.

      Now I hope to share my insights with others and use affiliate marketing while creating my own products.
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    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    For me it's overcoming social anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia.

    Next it will be creating an Information Publishing Organization to liberate people from fear, suffering, and anxiety.

    What about you? (It can be absolutely anything : )
    Good for you Jonathan - that's fantastic!!

    As for me, I guess it would have to be the fact that I've lived and worked overseas on my own. Found the jobs, traveled there and worked there - all by myself. When my dad first found out I was going to Switzerland he was rather shocked, but wasn't too surprised. Then when I went to visit them in Bangkok I ended up getting a job in Laos (my favorite), and this was at the end of the Vietnam war. Do I have some stories to tell!

    So many people have asked me how I can just pick up and move someplace where I don't know anyone. It's really easy... just pick up and move.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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      Amazing accomplishments. : ) Thanks, guys.
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