12th Dec 2011, 08:55 PM | #501 |
VIP Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2008 Location: Vancouver, WA, USA.
Posts: 5,273
Thanks: 884
Thanked 979 Times in 704 Posts
|
I don't think you should worry if it is an apartment or duplex, fourplex etc. or single family home. Pay attention to the neighborhood. If it is the hood, forget it. If it is middle income to upper income, then mail to them. Some apartments are quite exclusive and it takes a decent income to afford them. Those are people you want to get your coupon as they will by likely to use them. |
Tim Pears
| |
12th Dec 2011, 10:50 PM | #503 | |
VIP Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2008 Location: Vancouver, WA, USA.
Posts: 5,273
Thanks: 884
Thanked 979 Times in 704 Posts
|
| |
Tim Pears
| ||
13th Dec 2011, 12:13 AM | #504 | |
Dark Horse War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: Outside Philly, PA
Posts: 486
Thanks: 84
Thanked 801 Times in 124 Posts
|
Definitely different and will get attention. | |
13th Dec 2011, 12:25 AM | #505 |
VIP Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2008 Location: Vancouver, WA, USA.
Posts: 5,273
Thanks: 884
Thanked 979 Times in 704 Posts
|
It definitely will NOT work for you. You will have to work it to get anything out of it. If you want to do it, and put in the effort and follow Bob's direction, then it will work in your area. But you will have to do the work in order to get it to pay off. First you have to start with a positive attitude. It is pretty well proven that if you think you can you are right, and if you think you can't you are right. It is all about the way you believe in it. |
Tim Pears
| |
13th Dec 2011, 12:48 AM | #506 |
Active Warrior Join Date: 2011 Location: Greater Vancouver
Posts: 69
Thanks: 9
Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts
| |
*
| |
The Following User Says Thank You to SpiralX For This Useful Post: |
13th Dec 2011, 01:00 AM | #507 |
Sell or Die Join Date: 2011 Location: Central NJ
Posts: 2,265
Thanks: 744
Thanked 1,691 Times in 779 Posts
|
@rht999 - Untill you've met a couple ValPak employees I wouldn't rule out your ability to have success with this system. It sells itself imo.
|
13th Dec 2011, 06:37 AM | #508 |
Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2003 Location: In the beautiful Mohawk Valley of Central NY, USA.
Posts: 92
Thanks: 96
Thanked 47 Times in 32 Posts
| |
---<--<-@ Local Florist in Little Falls, NY @->-->---
| |
13th Dec 2011, 08:54 AM | #509 | |
Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: California, an hour north of L.A.
Posts: 978
Thanks: 516
Thanked 190 Times in 132 Posts
|
I hate to think that a company like valpak or any other that sells their coupon program to biz would be doing something I am about to say. Question is; does the salesrep know for a fact when they are piching someone lets say a plumber, that there are already another 3 plumbers in there?IF they knew, would that affect WHAT they would be saying to plumber number 4 in order to sell them? IF that is true, that would be a huge issue. | |
13th Dec 2011, 10:42 AM | #510 |
The Prince of Profits War Room Member Join Date: 2011
Posts: 483
Thanks: 72
Thanked 125 Times in 85 Posts
| |
13th Dec 2011, 11:41 AM | #511 |
Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: California, an hour north of L.A.
Posts: 978
Thanks: 516
Thanked 190 Times in 132 Posts
| |
13th Dec 2011, 01:46 PM | #512 | |
Flyin' Low & Slow War Room Member Join Date: 2008
Posts: 1,182
Thanks: 55
Thanked 179 Times in 133 Posts
|
The last one I received had about four for flooring contractors and at least three pizza parlors. In fact, there were probably more "duplicate" offers but those are the ones that stood out. AFAIK as I know, exclusivity is not a ValPak selling point.... but it could very well be for anyone using Bob's program. | |
13th Dec 2011, 02:02 PM | #513 |
VIP Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2008 Location: Vancouver, WA, USA.
Posts: 5,273
Thanks: 884
Thanked 979 Times in 704 Posts
|
When I got a Valpak envelope it just went in the trash. I didn't bother to even open it. I am not really motivated by coupons. But when I get a card in the mail, I can't help but see it. Even if I toss it in the trash, I will glance at it. If there is something that catches my eye, I will look at it longer. That, I think is the big selling point with this program. You can't totally ignore it. You will be drawn to at least glance at the offers. And then, out of the 10,000 pieces, you only need a hundred or two to use a coupon to make it well worth the investment in an ad. Don't you think that you can catch a couple hundred peoples attention with your coupon? Truth is, my wife has given me two or three post cards that caught her attention in the past week. With the large size of this one, and the array of collors, this will catch more peoples attention I believe. When ever she shows me an envelope and asks 'what is this' I tell her advertising and it goes directly in the trash. |
Tim Pears
| |
13th Dec 2011, 02:14 PM | #514 | ||
Flyin' Low & Slow War Room Member Join Date: 2008
Posts: 1,182
Thanks: 55
Thanked 179 Times in 133 Posts
|
For example, I like to scuba dive. An easy way to get me to open an envelope is to put a little stamp of a scuba diver on it. As for other mail (like from banks, insurance companies etc), straight to the trash. | ||
13th Dec 2011, 02:38 PM | #515 |
Postcard Pioneer War Room Member Join Date: 2011 Location: NY
Posts: 1,139
Thanks: 1,795
Thanked 1,535 Times in 572 Posts
| Attention Anyone who is a premium WSO buyer... we have the first live teleseminar on thursday at 9PM EST (fully downloadable if you can't make it). If you don't have the password to or info to get in, email me at itsbobross [at] gmail and I'll get you the info right away (please provide paypal transaction ID). Get all your questions ready that you want me to expand on. I'll be going over objection handling, pitching, closing, and all sorts of stuff. Thanks! |
| |
13th Dec 2011, 03:03 PM | #516 |
Owner, Y3k Designs Join Date: 2011 Location: Philly burbs, PA
Posts: 93
Thanks: 29
Thanked 94 Times in 27 Posts
|
Filling in the Skype group with my prospecting success today, sunk 2 out of 6 deals with 1 maybe and a no-show from the boss...which I think will bite once I meet with him! A great day and I'm pumped that I officially broke the ice! |
Professional graphic designer and entrepreneurial Jedi Knight in training...check out my portfolio | |
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to greggorio28 For This Useful Post: |
13th Dec 2011, 03:41 PM | #517 |
VIP Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2008 Location: Vancouver, WA, USA.
Posts: 5,273
Thanks: 884
Thanked 979 Times in 704 Posts
|
I was just in the War Room and I saw this lead capture for businesses. Not much information but I downloaded it anyway. No opt in and if you don't think it is worth using, then nothing lost but a couple minutes. Check it out if you are interested: http://www.warriorforum.com/war-room...-no-optin.html |
Tim Pears
| |
13th Dec 2011, 04:42 PM | #518 | |
Postcard Pioneer War Room Member Join Date: 2011 Location: NY
Posts: 1,139
Thanks: 1,795
Thanked 1,535 Times in 572 Posts
|
also.... just as a quick reminder.... >> Price of the premium WSO is going to $47 effective 12pm, Wednesday, December 14th. << I am CLOSING down this WSO Thursday, Dec 22nd at 6pm. Once it's gone, it's gone forever! | |
| ||
13th Dec 2011, 04:45 PM | #519 |
Store Closing Sale Expert War Room Member Join Date: 2011 Location: San Antonio
Posts: 206
Thanks: 65
Thanked 42 Times in 30 Posts
Blog Entries: 1 |
I had mentioned before that I was going to reserve a spot for a non-profit in each mailing. After much thought, what non-profit would have an offer that would appeal to lots of people. So, I sent a short email off to the "Zoo". If I don't hear from them will give a call on Thursday.
|
| |
13th Dec 2011, 05:32 PM | #520 |
Senior Warrior Member Join Date: 2010
Posts: 1,409
Thanks: 805
Thanked 169 Times in 140 Posts
| greggorio28- what price points were the sales at?
|
13th Dec 2011, 05:54 PM | #521 | |
Owner, Y3k Designs Join Date: 2011 Location: Philly burbs, PA
Posts: 93
Thanks: 29
Thanked 94 Times in 27 Posts
|
It went like this: I created a sense of urgency with the auto shop owner by telling him that he can certainly take some time to think it over...but I will be stopping by at least 3 more places today including an auto shop and its first come/first served. That lit a fire under his a$$! Then, I told him that since he was one of the first customers to reserve a spot...that he had his top pick and that I would cut a 25% discount if he chose the BIG space at the top left. Well, he jumped right on it! Funny enough the Chinese place who was very interested and asked me a hundred questions....ended up wanting a small 3x2 space just to "test it out". Thats fine ya know...somebody would have had to fill that space eventually. So, the auto shop cut me a check for half today, and agreed to a cost of $525 I believe (which is $695 at full price). The Chinese place agreed to a cost of $400 for the small ad ($525 normally) and said they will confirm and pay me by the weekend. Now...I was extremely anxious today and just wanted to make some sales.....so I dipped down a bit....but nowhere near a price that I will regret. Today gave me the confidence to ask for full price in the future....and ONLY cut a 25% discount if they haggle on cost. I slightly inflated the prices to the point where I will still walk away happy with a 25% discount even if I did that for ALL of them....which I wont | |
Professional graphic designer and entrepreneurial Jedi Knight in training...check out my portfolio | ||
13th Dec 2011, 06:02 PM | #522 | |
jcmarketingsolutions.com War Room Member Join Date: 2006 Location: Los Angeles , USA.
Posts: 1,060
Thanks: 79
Thanked 379 Times in 109 Posts
Blog Entries: 1 |
Awesome man. I was wanting to establish a DBA for a marketing style firm/company. I currently have a DBA for my SEO company. Did you establish a new DBA before getting clients? If not, did any of the clients ask you about your business etc? | |
13th Dec 2011, 06:10 PM | #523 |
Owner, Y3k Designs Join Date: 2011 Location: Philly burbs, PA
Posts: 93
Thanks: 29
Thanked 94 Times in 27 Posts
|
Good question Jrod....and something that's been on my mind all week. I am operating/branding this mailer with its own unique name: The Value Titan, but creating it under my freelance design business DBA name: Y3k Designs, to give me credibility and trust. I am really creating a brand with the mailer and want the name to become a household item in my local area and be around for many years. Heck it has the potential to become a full fledged national trademark if I ever got to that point...kinda like ValPack. But for now....it works just fine. I figured this campaign will just go hand in hand with my sole proprietorship for now...but being that this has the potential to BLOW UP in 2012 and involves many different businesses....that I should consider forming an LLC to avoid any personal liability if that should ever happen for some crazy reason. What do you think? |
Professional graphic designer and entrepreneurial Jedi Knight in training...check out my portfolio | |
13th Dec 2011, 06:22 PM | #524 | |
jcmarketingsolutions.com War Room Member Join Date: 2006 Location: Los Angeles , USA.
Posts: 1,060
Thanks: 79
Thanked 379 Times in 109 Posts
Blog Entries: 1 |
I think if anyone asks about my business, I'll give them my business card (SEO/web devlopment related) and say something like "We are a small internet marketing company that is currently focusing on a few inbound marketing techniques for our clients." Hopefull this will create some curiosity with the small business owner and strike up other internet marketing conversation. That way we can also pitch to our current clients as well. I think the LLC would be a smart move. I have been planning to do it myself. I think I'll do it the first thing in January. It's smart to have that protection. Also, I've read that you had some laminated sheet with you. Did you make it on your own or have a print shop print it for you? I really want to hit the streets this afternoon but want to look professional at the same time. One last question, sorry. What did you find to be the easiest, cold calling or walking in? Thanks, Jerry | |
13th Dec 2011, 06:22 PM | #525 |
Maniac Marketer Join Date: 2006 Location: Columbus, OH, USA.
Posts: 18
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
|
Premium buyers having access to buyers-only discussion / teleseminars etc might be a good selling point to picking up this WSO before the deadline(s) which are approaching - if those availabilities could be outlined and clarified...also if we could learn about how many users have purchased (to determined how many would be in the program)... thanks. |
| |
13th Dec 2011, 06:24 PM | #526 |
Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: 2006 Location: , , .
Posts: 1,181
Thanks: 245
Thanked 151 Times in 123 Posts
|
Any Aussies know if this "every door direct" post office service or something similar is available in Australia? Can this be done without it? |
13th Dec 2011, 06:31 PM | #527 |
Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: Woodstock, GA
Posts: 83
Thanks: 181
Thanked 43 Times in 29 Posts
|
AussieT Check out post #105 on the main wso thread. http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-income-3.html |
"To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world." | |
13th Dec 2011, 06:32 PM | #528 | |
HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2011 Location: Southeast Oklahoma
Posts: 223
Thanks: 19
Thanked 36 Times in 28 Posts
|
If you check out the WSO thread, I believe Karen posted information about an Australian equivalent of EDDM(as well as a few other countries that she dug up after people requested information). | |
13th Dec 2011, 06:34 PM | #529 |
Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2010 Location: Woodstock, GA
Posts: 83
Thanks: 181
Thanked 43 Times in 29 Posts
|
jamiecoyne see post #521, it will answer part of your question |
"To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world." | |
13th Dec 2011, 06:48 PM | #530 |
Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: 2006 Location: , , .
Posts: 1,181
Thanks: 245
Thanked 151 Times in 123 Posts
|
Thanks. Just did a "search this thread" and found your answers to my questions.
|
13th Dec 2011, 10:46 PM | #531 | |
Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: 2006 Location: , , .
Posts: 1,181
Thanks: 245
Thanked 151 Times in 123 Posts
|
anyone know if Australia Post allow UV coating on both sides?
| |
13th Dec 2011, 11:29 PM | #532 | |
Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: 2006 Location: , , .
Posts: 1,181
Thanks: 245
Thanked 151 Times in 123 Posts
|
| |
14th Dec 2011, 12:19 AM | #533 |
VIP Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2008 Location: Vancouver, WA, USA.
Posts: 5,273
Thanks: 884
Thanked 979 Times in 704 Posts
| |
Tim Pears
| |
14th Dec 2011, 01:05 AM | #534 |
Warrior Member Join Date: 2011 Location: New Jersey
Posts: 26
Thanks: 6
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
|
I've been following this thread post by post since it started, and I really want to implement, or get a huge dent in preparing to do something like this over my next break, or even in the town around my campus. The only hesitation I have is that I'm 19 years old, and a little soft-spoken, So i feel like going into these places, I wouldnt get taken seriously. Even this summer, I worked in a restaurant and I always got customers saying "Oh honey what are you, 15? and you already have a waitressing job? Good for You!"....then i would have to explain I'm a little older than that... |
14th Dec 2011, 01:39 AM | #535 | |
Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: 2006 Location: , , .
Posts: 1,181
Thanks: 245
Thanked 151 Times in 123 Posts
|
Been reading this thread all day in bed as I am sick | |
14th Dec 2011, 03:00 AM | #536 |
Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: 2006 Location: , , .
Posts: 1,181
Thanks: 245
Thanked 151 Times in 123 Posts
|
Has anyone researched whether this is doable in Australia? Will Australia Post deilver this size postcard? Has anyone found an Australian printer that will print using the recommended specs and at a reasonable price? |
14th Dec 2011, 07:40 AM | #537 | |
Owner, Y3k Designs Join Date: 2011 Location: Philly burbs, PA
Posts: 93
Thanks: 29
Thanked 94 Times in 27 Posts
|
huh?? So..... anyways kids, what do you think of the website I launched last night?? Took me about 5 hours using Yahoo site building tools and Im very happy with it so far. I'm all about simplicity The Value Titan | |
Professional graphic designer and entrepreneurial Jedi Knight in training...check out my portfolio | ||
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to greggorio28 For This Useful Post: |
14th Dec 2011, 07:49 AM | #538 |
Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2011 Location: Florida
Posts: 82
Thanks: 32
Thanked 37 Times in 27 Posts
|
Looks very good, Greg...I do like the about us page. One thing you migh consider is maybe enlarge the 88 cents, $1,25, and the 7 cents (or than whole underlined sentence) and put them in red...3 very pertinent points of your biz
|
Smoking cigarettes and watching Captain Kangaroo
| |
14th Dec 2011, 09:28 AM | #539 | |
HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2007 Location: , , USA.
Posts: 264
Thanks: 11
Thanked 64 Times in 49 Posts
|
Exclusivity is a HUGE issue in this offering. | |
14th Dec 2011, 09:30 AM | #540 |
Active Warrior Join Date: 2009 Location: FL
Posts: 82
Thanks: 10
Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts
|
Spent the last two days reading this forum. Bought the WSO yesterday. Finished setting up the DBA, business cards, website, google voice and started on Pitch for my salesperson. I'm running full speed ahead on this one. My question, has anyone hired a salesperson for this yet? I was wondering what rate to offer. I was considering offering $50 per signup. So that's $800 for the salesman for 16 signups. Does this seem too high, too low? I've never tried hiring a salesperson before. And I have no experience in sales to do this myself. I feel confortable enough re-soliciting after their first purchase though. |
| |
14th Dec 2011, 09:33 AM | #541 | |
Warrior Living the Dream War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: Krakow Poland, Wyoming and Texas
Posts: 283
Thanks: 143
Thanked 51 Times in 40 Posts
|
Seb | |
| ||
14th Dec 2011, 10:09 AM | #542 | ||||
Postcard Pioneer War Room Member Join Date: 2011 Location: NY
Posts: 1,139
Thanks: 1,795
Thanked 1,535 Times in 572 Posts
|
The only thing that may stop you would be your self confidence in that case. What you could definitely do to get around that easier is to cold call or email prospects rather than be nervous walking in cold. If you get people interested via calling or emailing them, they have no clue what you look like or how old you are! You can definitely do this.
| ||||
| |||||
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to bob ross For This Useful Post: |
14th Dec 2011, 10:20 AM | #543 |
HyperActive Warrior Join Date: 2011
Posts: 138
Thanks: 10
Thanked 21 Times in 20 Posts
|
How do I give a "Thanks" to a post?
|
14th Dec 2011, 01:17 PM | #544 |
Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2009 Location: California, an hour north of L.A.
Posts: 978
Thanks: 516
Thanked 190 Times in 132 Posts
| |
Last edited on 14th Dec 2011 at 01:18 PM. Reason: xtra | |
14th Dec 2011, 01:19 PM | #545 | |
HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: 2011 Location: Southeast Oklahoma
Posts: 223
Thanks: 19
Thanked 36 Times in 28 Posts
|
Like Bob said, if you're confident, I don't think your age would be held against you. If it helps you feel more comfortable, you don't have to tell them that you own the business, you could just let them think you are a sales person that's been hired on. | |
14th Dec 2011, 01:26 PM | #546 |
http://Vision-Link.com Join Date: 2011 Location: New York City,
Posts: 44
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
|
absolutely age doesn't matter in business , as far as you have confidence in yourself ..
|
| |
14th Dec 2011, 01:36 PM | #547 |
Warrior Member Join Date: 2011 Location: New Jersey
Posts: 26
Thanks: 6
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
|
thanks for the tips everyone. I feel like my visuals and information will be strong if everything goes as planned. I probably will have to practice a bit so I get my confidence up there to match it |
14th Dec 2011, 01:47 PM | #548 |
New Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: 2008
Posts: 20
Thanks: 17
Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts
|
My question, has anyone hired a salesperson for this yet? I was wondering what rate to offer. I was considering offering $50 per signup. So that's $800 for the salesman for 16 signups. Does this seem too high, too low? I've never tried hiring a salesperson before. And I have no experience in sales to do this myself. I feel confortable enough re-soliciting after their first purchase though.[/QUOTE] I am paying mine 10% of all collected, plus a $400 bonus if the card is filled in four days. I am a pretty good salesman, so I could sell it myself, but I am so busy at work that I cannot take any time off for several weeks, so I will just raise the prices on the ads to pay his commission. I told him that as soon as he fills this card, hopefully within the next 4 or 5 days, he can immediately start selling on another one. Anyway, he seems good to go with the 10%, so if he does what I tell him and show him he can make $1200 in a few days, pretty good money for easy sales. I would rather use % than a set dollar amount per sale, because I am going to allow him to price drop a certain amount to close if needed, so that should hit his wallet as well as mine. |
14th Dec 2011, 02:11 PM | #549 |
Sell or Die Join Date: 2011 Location: Central NJ
Posts: 2,265
Thanks: 744
Thanked 1,691 Times in 779 Posts
|
Guys I have a problem. I named my company "InFusion" then saw that most of the company names on here are associated with value/savings/discounts. Do I need my company name to be something like "The Value Titan" or "Captain Coupon" etc? Or do you think InFusion would work? It looks nice on my website and everything else but if I need to change it I will. This is literally the first thing I did but the last thing I need to get settled before going out. |
14th Dec 2011, 02:22 PM | #550 |
Active Warrior Join Date: 2009 Location: FL
Posts: 82
Thanks: 10
Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts
|
turbojarhead1, Thanks for that. That makes sense to offer a percentage to a salesperson rather than a fixed amount. I might go with that. RedShifted, I don't think you have to have a DBA as your offer/product. For example, my DBA is the name of my company which will offer this Mailer along with many other services. I will brand the Mailer on it's own site while making it clear that it's owned by my company that offers other marketing products. My DBA name will not appear on the mailer, only on the mailer website. I think this is the best way to go if you offer multiple services under "Infusion". It will make more sense later on when you try to offer other services to your clients once a proven track record and trust is formed. |
| |
Bookmarks |
Tags |
hero, make, month |
| |