ryanmckinney

Now that I got your attention. I did not make that amount of money,

But you clicked on it, and you were hoping that I had a shiny thing in here, that you to could do what my subject line said.

But – what I did do today is kiss my comfy 9-5 bye bye. I am not going to say how much I made, but I made a very comfortable amount.

I started in offline 8 months ago. I built two offline companies, in my spare time – I surrounded myself with a team of people that are good at what they do. They do the work, I just find new clients, and manage that process.

In 8 months, actually just short of, in my spare time, I accomplished this. 8 months ago, I had never sold a thing in my life, I had never ranked a website, I had never do any of the things that I am now paid to “do”.

I would make a long drawn out post here, about “I did this first” – then I did “this” – and “whoopiiee this is the path to success!” but I am not.

Why? Because 99.9% of you won’t do what I say I did anyways. And there aren't going to be enough "views" on this thread for the .1 to make 1 person. I mean that in the nicest way. No one listens to free advice. Pay for it, then you get a slighter increase in listening, because it was paid for.

I am not posting a pre-cursor to a WSO – I have already done 2, and I haven’t been in here “promoting” those. It’s useless to try and do that anyways. Will I be creating more WSOs? Sure. This is not the point.

The point is about the only thing I honestly think this post can accomplish here is “motivating” someone, rather than someone reading an A-Z post on how to get rich.

If I had any advice it is this: Stop thinking like the worker bee and trying to do everything yourself. Start thinking like a boss, and NETWORK you butt off. Dedicate your self to something and ask your self “Are you really in this, or just messing around”.

Shout out to my man nameless whose brain I have picked and posts first got me motivated to do something, I’ll hit you up later, you need to read the e-mail I sent , it’s epic, and David Miller – same to you man, wait till you see how I went out! Your posts actually was the reason I crafted a.. reason to cold call.

Ry

Taniwha

Useless post.

believemarketing

although you mean good, i find this quite annoying...

Preeti

Taniwha, I'd have to disagree.

Ryan just quit his 9-5 to pursue offline and is now a full-time entrepreneur and one step closer to creating and living his dream lifestyle.

Useless? No. Motivating? Heck yes!

Congrats Ryan on the MAJOR milestone and achievement!

iAmNameLess

Like yours?

I personally think this is one of the most valuable threads on here, because I've seen it first hand. I've seen Ryan go from being unsure about this, that, and every other thing to being a legend of confidence. He was able to meet a goal he set, and he has been successful.

THIS is something that a lot of people only dream of. It isn't his responsibility to tell you HOW he did it... he doesn't have to. Other people can do it too if they aren't lazy and have the type of DRIVE it takes to achieve success.

TheCG

Right. A post is only useful if it lays out for you from start to finish exactly how he did it so you can read it and say, "Gee, that is too hard. It will never work." and proceed to continue to sit on your @ss and not do anything but whine about how "this stuff doesn't work."

Please.......

When was the last time YOU picked up a phone and made money?

Yes, by the way, I AM in the Witness Protection Program. I could tell you who I am but then I would have to kill you.

TheCG

Good for you, Ryan! Feels good to tell the man you are outta there, doesn't it?

I was in St George, SC for a couple of weeks last month. Hotter than hell.

You anywhere around that area?

Yes, by the way, I AM in the Witness Protection Program. I could tell you who I am but then I would have to kill you.

SirThomas

Sure they do. You are a perfect example...
Good luck in your new "entrepreneurial" life!

iAmNameLess

I'm sure his feelings are hurt.

ShayRockhold

Ryan, you totally rock. *hugs* Congrats.

To those who call his post a waste of time, I'm curious:

There are many posts in this forum that (for free) lay out step-by-step plans for a full time business.

How many of those have you read?

How many have you taken action on?

Ryan's post is a model of encouragement and affirmation. He walks the walk.

I certainly don't think it's a waste of time at all.

housewarrior

I'm preachin' your sermon to all that will listen, brother. But the call of the "I made $396,000 in 75 days" is strong. Very strong.

Norm

ryanmckinney

Yes, you can see the progression of my posts through the months. Nameless pointed out when I was wrong, and commended the right.

Nameless, among a few others new I had set a goal to be in a position to do this by June 1. I made it by two days

ryanmckinney

I honestly have no clue, only moved here for my old job (that sounds great to say)..

I am in a small city called Sumter..

Thanks man.

ryanmckinney

They are

ryanmckinney

Shay! Such a big heart.

So guys, where I said "network" many months ago Shay offered to start an offline chat group, WHICH I JUMPED ON (network , right)

Where are we at today?

Shay is testing out some lead generation strategies, and guess who is getting those leads for services she doesnt provide?

Me.

Guess who will get taken care of for passing off the leads.

Her.

Talk soon Shay!!

Ry

cyberhythm

My thoughts are the only people who will find this post worthless are the ones who only clicked on it because they are looking for the next "shiny ball" to chase, and they are now disappointed because the shiny ball wasn't found.

It actually WAS found! The "shiny ball" is Ryan's success and it's out there waiting for anyone to reach out and get it!

My favorite quote from "Pursuit of Happyness":

"You got a dream, you gotta protect it. People can't do something themselves, they wanna tell you, you can't do it. If you want something, go get it. Period."

ryanmckinney

Thanks brother! I feel 10 lbs lighter.

And excited.

Many things, words can't describe that only few people understand. When you work hard for something and it pays off, that is priceless, even if I made just enough to meet my needs and still have no boss, that is worth it in itself.

That ain't happening though, going to live very decently and boss free.

ryanmckinney

Exactly. I may not be the smartest guy in the world, but from the headline to the body of that post was thought out.

I knew there would be a night and day response, which would just prove my point. I love them validating it with out them even knowing.

Great movie to!

ebizman

stop chasing the shiny ball folks!

...I love cold calling.

Rus Sells

USELESS REPLY!

RedShifted

Inspiration in the form of deciet and negativity is not flattering nor motivating. So I'm honestly not sure how in the world this story motivated some of you people.

Here are some of his key points.

1) He had to lie to you to motivate you.

2) He wants you to believe you're all lazy people who won't take action.

3) He tells an extremely unoriginal, fear inducing, rehashed story of acting like a boss to get as rich as he himself likes to pretend he is (thread title).

4) What is REALLY "motivating" about his story? I don't get it. Just because it pushes all those subliminal hot buttons and feeds off of your vulnerabilities?

I personally think successful marketers really need to start SHOWING their real level of motivation, by being original, and most of all positive.

"Stop thinking like a worker bee", again, is it good advice? Sure. Could I buy 10,000 PLR products with the same sentence in it? Absolutely.

So again, nothing in this post really struck me in a unique and interesting way, so I was rather shocked to see how many people thanked him.

Makes me believe that almost anyone can write a story on this forum about how they went from rags to riches, and it doesn't even really matter what the story is about, or whether the whole story is even true, but people definitely WILL eat that **** up.

(criticize me if you want but thats my opinion and I'm sticking to it)

-Red

ryanmckinney

Most of the thanks are people who have seen me "outside" of this forum progress in my goals I set forth.

I didn't go from rags to riches. I went from the "comfortable/secure job" - to following a goal through, and doing what I want for my self now.

I have also made many observations, and I learn quick.

1) Crap, I was caught in a lie. How am I going to sleep with myself tonight?

2) Most people are not taking action because they are lazy, taking the wrong kind of action i.e. trying to accomplish to much in one day, running in circles, instead of focusing and organizing their time.

3) This story may not be original in that: I am not the first person to build an offline business in my spare time.

4) There is nothing motivational about this story.


When did I say any of this was ground breaking, or my advice? I didn't make this up. I didn't re-invent the wheel, I just modified it to fit it where it suits me. I read a lot of books, and successful peoples blogs, etc. I took the tid bits of information and molded it to fit me.

Believe what you want -

Today was still one of the most liberating days of my life, and you, nor anyone else can take that from me.

If I were you, and you were me, I would more than likely have the same thoughts you would have. Again, the people in here commenting on my behalf, and thanking me, know me outside fo "ryanmckinney" some random poster in the WF.

iAmNameLess

Yes, anyone can write a story on this forum... it doesn't necessarily mean its true, likr you said.

I've had Ryan on my skype for a while, he's a good guy, he's been through some stuff and has come out of it stronger. I was there when he made his first calls...

I wouldn't say it's rags to riches because Ryan had a pretty nice job before.. I don't think the reason of him getting into this business was because of money, probably more to do with the control, challenge and adventure we go through. It's hard to understand THAT unless you're at a certain point in your journey.

When I see somebody that successfully met their goals and I know they did first hand, that's motivating to me.

The people that this doesn't motivate, are probably people looking for a quick fix solution, or looking for some secret sauce... OR haven't seen the growth first hand. There's nothing wrong with disliking the thread, you just don't see it in the same light as others.

This isn't directed to you whatsoever, but this forum is cancer for some. People are looking for too many answers about too many trivial matters that they dont make any progress. Ryan used to ask a bunch of pointless questions to.. he gained some useful knowledge in the process but the only thing that put it together and allowed him to resign from his job is because he used strategies, he took action in a smart way, not just the DO SOMETHING type attitude that gets nowhere, but he put a plan into motion and capitalized on the results.

I never quit my job to get into this... I didn't have any other option, my back was against the wall and I had to just learn as I go, no time period of just learning and wondering what will work, I had to think, make a plan, execute it, and deliver. I don't know what it feels like to tell your boss to go **** off I'm gunna do my own thing. I wasn't in a position to have money saved up and have the knowledge he has when I first got into this. THAT is why it's MOTIVATING. You don't need a guide to be motivated by something, you just need to relate to it or be able to feel the excitement or the possibilities of a number of people out there. I'm happy for him, and honored to be able to see someone on here succeed, and can't wait to see how far he gets.

Taniwha

I'm sorry if you all felt offended by my post. It's just that when a post tells people that 99% of us are "lazy and will never use the information" for 3/4 of the post, I find it a bit underwhelming. <-- Just my opinion.

Nevertheless, congrats on becoming financially free from your 9-5.

danielsteven

Thata boy Ryan. Your willingness to "give" and help others is going to make you alot more money than that. Keep it up man and Congrats on quitting the 9-5!

Amber Jalink

If I can step in here for a moment...

I don't know Ryan - but I can honestly say - Congrats!! Feels amazing eh?

Okay - so here's my take on the 'controversy' of this post:

There are many other posts on the forum of people who have had success, and have told others how they did it.

And it's Fantastic that they want to give back...

And for others, (like Ryan), they post that they finally quit a job, or made that sale that kept them off the street etc. And THAT's JUST as powerful as someone who explains it.

I'm saying that because I've been on this forum since the very beginning. (I don't know if my signup date shows properly because Allen imported me when he switched to this new board, but anyway, I've been here from probably month 1).

See, when people post that they did it - immediately there's people who post back begging and pleading to get all the info out of them.

If you're going to use it - great!

But I'll admit - I've also seen:

a) some of those people gripe that it doesn't work (but admit they didn't try it) in other sections...

b) some other people put their own twist on it and make it work for themselves (great!)

c) others who want to but procrastinate (aka - see too many similar posts weekly and then follow the next thing and not achieve success...)

d) people who have success and turn it into their own WSO on how to do it (nothing wrong with that)

e) people who READ the "how I did it" posts... then rewrite it into a wso but they've never actually done it or attempted it themselves, its just based on another person's experience... but they don't ADMIT that unless you suck it out of them (this person is called a "poser")... they sell the hyped up wso's on what they read. (This I don't agree with UNLESS you make it clear that you're selling the idea/concept).

I've seen (e) happen more than a few times, and I can name off the few who do this, one notoriously did it till it finally came out (it was obvious after a few remarks).

I'm not against people who sell wso's, (I do myself on occasion too) - but I think it would be great if Ryan DID put one out on what he did - but even if not, he's entitled to that too.

My point after that long winded post...

Some may not feel it's productive or informational... and you're entitled to that opinion.

But rather than gripe, why not simply congratulate Ryan (or anyone else) that they did achieve what they set out to do??

It feels absolutely GREAT to reach a goal/milestone you set out to do, and until you've done it, you won't understand it. (We needed a car desperately 11 years ago - had 60 days to do it... I put my mind to it and bought a brand new car cash... won't bother with what kind because you probably don't care... and to this day people think it's only 1-2 yrs old)

My point is - if you're disappointed - find what works for you and go do it yourself! Experience that elation of SOMETHING you needed or wanted to do...

then come back and post for yourself

Amber Jalink, Founder http://www.dime-co.com
WSO - Create Native Apps - Prelaunch Announcement

IMguy123

btw...tangent topic I guess...whenever I here people talking about 9-5 jobs, I wonder....where are all these 9-5 jobs? When I had a regular job 8 years ago it was 8-5, 40 or more hrs on a salary position? Is 9-5 hrs a banking job? In what part of the country is 9-5 a regular full time job? When Dolly Parton came out with her song "Working 9-5.." I just thought she probably never had a regular job in her life so she didn't really know what the hours of a regular job are...so I always thought she made a mistake when it should have really been "Working 8 to 5, what a way to make a living...."

Bruce Wedding

I searched the thread and he never used the word "lazy".

What he said was...
And he's absolutely right.

Let's look at a real world example which is personal for you ,Red.

Bob Ross laid out a full-blown working plan in this forum to easily make $5k/month. At this moment, it has 1,300 posts and 67,000 views. I've counted 5 or 6 Warriors that have actually implemented the plan.

I'm sure there are a few more but come on... I'm not sure how many of those posts are unique, probably 200 but even at that number, we're looking at a few percent of people actually taking action on that and it was given to them on a silver platter.

Truthfully, if you go by the views to make a guess at the number of lurkers, we're probably VERY close to less than 1 in 1000 actually implementing it. Which is Ryan's number, 99.9%.

Why is the truth offensive to so many?

ADukes81

Way to break down the numbers and you are right on.

Disclaimer: I do know Ryan. I do talk to him on a daily basis (just in the last few weeks) and I can tell you he has busted his ass to get to this point. He has taught me many things and is helping me with a little side project I am working on.

Not only is he walking the walk, he's a VERY helpful guy. He emailed all weekend (I needed some time to unplug), but he wanted to wrap this project up.

The guy is the real deal and has introduced me to many people that will help me grow my business. I am very thankful for him teaching me how to network as that is such a big part of this business.

ryanmckinney

Lol. I like the way you think, all the stuff jibbering back and forth, and you spot out this. We more than likely have the exact same sense of humor.

I actually work *730-*430 but...

9-5 is just easy to say, and it has a great ring to it. Say it aloud:

"I quit my nine ta' five!"

"I quite my seven thirty ta' four thirty!"

No matter what was said, I free'd up 40 hours a week, to focus on this - I stared at my resignation e-mail for about 15-20 minutes.

I got anxiety, I was nervous, but as SOON as I did it, a huge weight was lifted.

Ry

ryanmckinney

Keyword - network

Duke's is the man - mainly because I can call him Duke's.

See you in a couple of weeks brotha'!

Ry

ryanmckinney

I don't think I could of broke down the tendencies of "warriors" here reading forums any better.

link82

Ryan is the real deal! I've been traveling for a month do I haven't kept up--but we do Skype from time to time. He's always willing to help out. It's awesome to see you reach this point Ryan & I am working to follow suit!

ryanmckinney

I was wondering where you got off to! Ain't seen you round' skype

Gary Joseph

Ryan,

You're post is highly inspirational. There are so many people here on WF that are aspiring to your level of success (myself included) and I think you really gave me that boost!

I wish you the best of success!!

JMB Marketing Group

Bruce Wedding,

Well, with all due respect, so ya wanna break down the numbers down do ya?

How about these REAL LIVE STATS from BOB ROSS' "Private Forum":

Bob Ross Offline Forum Statistics

Threads1,592Posts14,828Members2,341Active Members619

Therefore, the STATS above are the proof of the pudd'n!

Meaning, your calculations are WAY OFF! These stats PROVE that WAY more than 1% are implementing (or are trying to implement) Bob Ross' method!

Edit: Just because people don't post their success here on the forum or in a thread, DOES NOT mean that people aren't having successes! Just something to keep in mind!

Onwards and Upwards!

JMB

P.S. It really peeves me when people post things about what "they perceive to be correct / reality", when in fact they can be so far off base that it's not worth going there! However, in this case, I felt it was my DUTY to set the record straight on Bob Ross' Blueprint, as people are using it and implementing it (or at least trying really hard to)!

liindsay

Congrats on your success!
That feeling when you sent through your resignation must of been unreal

ADukes81

@JMB Marketing Group With all due respect...

Ok, I can see that as those people BOUGHT his product. You know what people do with free information?

Nothing.

They don't use it.

Plain and simple.

And really sad.

Once you have some "skin" in the game, you feel obligated to try a little bit harder, spend a little more time on it. You can do the same with free info, but most don't.

I would be willing to bet on the thread (not that sales thread, the thread started in this offline section) that is probably is closer to that 1%. Let's say 5%.

Still sad.

Ryan was offering free advice/inspiration/motivation and people are going to treat it as such, "free, I can't do anything with that"

Wrong

Hustle should be in everyone's vocabulary on this forum, but it's not.

You want success?

Work hard. Bottom line.

agustya

extraordinary. It really motivated me

Bruce Wedding

Proof's in the pudding? Are you freakin' serious? Do you know how many WSO's are sold that never even get read, let alone implmented? This forum has 494,000 members and I'd bet the farm that 98% of them haven't made $5,000 on the internet.

Presence in a forum is ZERO indicator of taking action.

2,341 members in Bob's forum, eh? I'll paypal you $50 if you can show me 234 member websites (10%) implementing Bob's system with proof of having mailed one coupon.

sdentrepreneur

I left the world of gas stations/auto repair shops in 2007 and became Full Time Internet Marketer by April 2008. It's been has been and still is a awesome ride. Congrats Ryan for going full time.

The MOST difficult thing in my opinion is Mindset. Most of us have similar skills, its really just how you approach letting go of the JOB mentality and becoming a full time Internet Marketing/Entrepreneur.

If your not sure if you a Entrepreneur, read the first 3 chapters of The E-Myth by Michael Gerber.

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avandrunen

That is an awesome achievement Ryan...I hope to someday join those that have left their 9-5(or 730-330) behind.

Thank you for the post...it goes to show that it can be done.

Your accomplishment will help to motivate others.

ryanmckinney

I am going to check that out -

Thanks!

Brad Gosse's Chronic Marketer talk's about that - looking at your self and figuring out if you have what it takes..

What are you doing here? Are you just testing the waters? Or do you have that "spirit" - I knew what I was doing, and I knew the time was near, it was time to take that leap.

JMB Marketing Group

Yes and No!

However, I believe a lot of people bought because of the INITIAL free information. However, it is still unbelievable, even though it was free and they signed up and HOW ACTIVE those members are there!

Let me give you an example:

John Durham gives TONS AND TONS of FREE STEP-BY-STEP INFORMATION HERE!

He offered TONS OF FREE INFORMATION (just like Bob did) in his thread BEFORE he offered his WSO"!

However, his private forum, is NOTHING compared to Bob's! It is quiet as a mouse! It was since day 1 (even though the membership included some very well known gurus and heavy lifters!)

So, please don't tell me that just because peeps bought a WSO, based on free information, is going to translate into a thriving and enlighenting forum! In my experiences, hopefully, but NOT NECESSARILY so!

You see, Bob is onto something here ... something that a lot of people have taken notice of and can ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT, EASILY!

What Bob offered in giving away free information and then offering it as a WSO, were means for people to immediately effectively and efficiently implement it! Unlike, other WSOs that are were also sold here based upon "great threads and replies" here in the Offline arena.

Onwards and Upwards,

JMB

P.S. I wish John's forum was more active. He put a lot into his product and forum! It's hard so say why some WSO purchased forums are more active than others.

By the way, as I gave an example of John Durham's, unfortunately, as his HIGHLY ACCLAIMED WSO private forum is NOT THE ONLY ONE that didn't do well in the private member's forum arena (there are others ... which other WF members may know)! However, I merely mentioned John as he's the most recognized and respected Warrior here. Sorry John for using you as an example, but that's the reality based on my purchases and experiences here! I still wuv ya! You definitely deserve more ACTION in your forum!

Affiliate Ninja

Ryan you said in one of your post "There is nothing motivational about this story". I have to say you are wrong. I see it as a journey from just starting out to crossing the finish line with victory.

I have set a 6 month goal to say good-by to my 5-9 and the progress looks good so far. So thanks for sharing and encouraging myself and I am sure others on the forum.

Affiliate Ninja

ADukes81

I was a part of John's forum since day one and I disagree it was "quiet as a mouse since day one". It was active the first few months, maybe year, I am not sure.

Bob has put together a very solid product and has helped me along the way. I used to visit his forum, but it didn't line up with some of the things I was doing so I haven't logged in in a few months.

Also, most people HATE cold calling! John is big on cold calling. Bob is about direct mail (visiting biz face-to-face) 2 separate approaches. What I have found out is that just about anyone will do anything to avoid the phone.

It doesn't matter what John teaches (I owe a LOT of my success to him so I am not hating) a lot of people are looking for an "easier" option because they hate the phone.

I think it's not a fair comparisons. Also, John launched that forum in September of '10, almost 2 years ago.

JMB Marketing Group

The point I was trying to make, based on your stats about threads about FREE information, and THEN someone buying a WSO is that there are more active people who end up BUYING a WSO.

Please, I wasn't saying that one person's WSO was better than an other's. Or, that someone's forum was better than another's.

I was merely trying to present some facts.

Why someone's "offline" forum is more active, does not necessarily mean that it is better. What I tried to portray is that some topics are more interesting or better suited to those that are seeking the "holy grail"

I hope this message put this debate to rest!

Besides, it's all about what others think on how they can succeed no matter what YOU or I THINK!

Edit: To each his own!

JMB

jjerryr3

I think everyone needs a little motivation every now and then and its good to see someone who has achieved his goals.

Jerry Hall
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Bruce Wedding

One thing people miss is, there are always people willing to do what you won't or are afraid to do. For example, there are many telemarketers you can hire to sell your services on a per lead basis.

You don't have to pick up the phone. You may just have to pay someone to do it. I've got a guy that is freakin' amazing, generates leads like a machine. And no, you can't have his name or number.

Prashant_W

This post is pure genius. Instead of lambasting Ryan for not spilling the beans, how bout' you hating folks take a leaf out of his book and take action on one of the many gorgeously laid out plans here?

Besides, if he had gone into detail, most of you would've probably gotten turned off by the fact that it takes work to implement any sort of business plan.