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Old 11-01-2012, 05:25 PM   #1
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I'm researching about the market price for website development.

If you would like to share, please post in this thread by including what type of website you built (ex: WordPress), the niche (ex: Dentist) and the price you charged your client for.

When I first started, I charged 500$ for a WordPress website for a photographer. I now charge minimum 800$ up to 1,500$ for again WordPress websites but depending on the number of functionalities my clients ask me.

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I charge $1000+ as a minimum and the price does increase with additional perceived functionality. I dont compromise on price going downwards which can be frustrating. I recently walked away from a small wealth management firm and 5 star guest house.

I don't like walking away from business, especially when its the type of client I "want to do" but I value my time and will budge on that.

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I charge $1000+ as a minimum and the price does increase with additional perceived functionality. I dont compromise on price going downwards which can be frustrating. I recently walked away from a small wealth management firm and 5 star guest house.

I don't like walking away from business, especially when its the type of client I "want to do" but I value my time and will budge on that.
Not bad, can you share your profit margin? That would really help me grasp the pricing.

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Start with how much you would do it on an hourly basis then offer that.. then get the average fee for when u want to price it as a one-time fee.

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The price may depend upon the local alternatives available to the client.
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Not bad, can you share your profit margin? That would really help me grasp the pricing.
The profit margin is high as I do most of the setup myself. When I start projects I take 50% upfront and 50% on completion. My belief is that the upfront should cover any expenses and it never comes close.

Bare in mind that things would be expensive if I factor in my consultancy fee that I would charge clients. This is the one of the teething issues I've had with my business.

I read a fascinating article the other day that adequately explained this exact dilimna.

I'm using statistics from South Africa here. If you work 5 days a week and 9am-5pm and then charge for those hours, you will end up with 1980 hours that can be billable in a year. This factors in public holidays and weekends etc.

Your business profitability is closely related to how close you can get to your max earning potential.

For example(I will be using dollars here for ease of reading):

If you charge $15/hour to your clients:

$15 x 1980 hours = $29,700 Turnover Potential

If you charge $20/hour to your clients:

$20 x 1980 hours = $39,600 Turnover Potential

If you charge $25/hour to your clients:

$25 x 1980 hours = $49,500 Turnover Potential

These are hypothetical hourly rates that could be charged. How close are you getting to your possible income targets if you work out the total billable hours. You should use this percentage to see how close you are to reaching your business potential.

One of the biggest mistakes I made when I started my first business was treating the business as my own personal piggy bank. While I was the driving force of the business, I was also the parasite that was killing it from within.

Its important to follow solid business practice when managing your business. Educate yourself on business fundamentals and optimize your business for success.

When it comes to pricing, evaluate where you want to position yourself in the market. Your price is just as much a statemant about your status as it is about your quality.

If you come in at low cost, the perception is that you are a low cost designer. I deliberately chose an amount which is expensive by South African standards.

Im competing against guys that are charging between $180-$450 and I use my "quality work" as my unique selling proposition. Your USP is something you should be thinking about too.

Naturally you should make sure all your costs are covered too when pricing. Another important consideration is perceived value. Depending on the services that you offer beyond website development, you should evaluate what the perceived value of that offering is and then price accordingly.

Decide on a pricing structure and be consistent. Dont compromise, you change the dynamic of the relationship.

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I have a piggy back question for Baadier, if you don't mind.

What, specifically, do you include in that $1k price? Do you whip out a blank Notepad++ file and get to typing, do you use templates (yours or others), or focus on customizing, etc? Do you do both coding and design or ?

I did a few freelance jobs awhile back and it's so damn time consuming it took all the pleasure out of it. Then there's the whole "can you make the background a big space ship image and 40pt yellow blinking fonts instead?" mentality that I had to draw a line with. It's fine telling them not a chance in hell will I do that, but then you're being paid to give them what they want, even if what they want sucks. In the end, to cater to what they want in those cases, it's a reflection on me and it'd be my name/brand attached to the headache and people would assume I suck. I finally quit taking on freelance works.

But, I'm considering offering a less painful solution and use themes I can tweak and customize. I'd just as soon hurl myself off a bridge than to do another html site at this point!

How would you set up a package of services that'd be worth about $499 a job? What would you suggest including if that's a minimum price baseline?

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I, in my inception, made wordpress sites for around 700 dollars but they were almost always simple and took no longer than 2 days to create. A portfolio speaks volumes and also allows you to take on bigger projects; your client will see what you capable of and hire you based on merit.
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I have a piggy back question for Baadier, if you don't mind.

What, specifically, do you include in that $1k price? Do you whip out a blank Notepad++ file and get to typing, do you use templates (yours or others), or focus on customizing, etc? Do you do both coding and design or ?

I did a few freelance jobs awhile back and it's so damn time consuming it took all the pleasure out of it. Then there's the whole "can you make the background a big space ship image and 40pt yellow blinking fonts instead?" mentality that I had to draw a line with. It's fine telling them not a chance in hell will I do that, but then you're being paid to give them what they want, even if what they want sucks. In the end, to cater to what they want in those cases, it's a reflection on me and it'd be my name/brand attached to the headache and people would assume I suck. I finally quit taking on freelance works.

But, I'm considering offering a less painful solution and use themes I can tweak and customize. I'd just as soon hurl myself off a bridge than to do another html site at this point!

How would you set up a package of services that'd be worth about $499 a job? What would you suggest including if that's a minimum price baseline?

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Keep in mind that you can charge whatever you like for your service and their is no need to box it into some specific price point. I use wordpress to build my sites and would generally include any plugin that provides functionality the client deems necessary.

Bare in mind that in 90% of the cases you are dealing with the same type of plugins for clients. They want to show video's, have a gallery, a like button etc

These things are super simple for us but have a higher perceived worth to the clients.

For my clients, which I charge $1000+, I always provide a responsive theme. I don't see the need to charge them for a mobile site and this adaptive functionality is an important selling point to them that many of my competition will not take advantage of.

To give you an example of cases where I have charged more than $1000.

A client wanted to have multiple languages on the site and have it human translated. I chose the most recommended WordPress plugin on the market and the client provided the translations.

Another example would be a client that wanted an eCommerce solution where I charged plus minus $2000 for the increased functionality and providing a secure environment for their business. I used woocommerce to build this.

I purchase all my sites from WordPress theme markets and I very rarely customize it too much beyond the colors and customer branding. I give them 2 options when I do a proposal for them. I edit out anything that can trace the source of the image to a marketplace or developer to prevent circumvention.

Here are some of the the theme markets I use with themeforest being the most often used of the bunch.

Premium WordPress Themes | Premium Templates | Mojo Themes
WooThemes | Premium WordPress Themes & Plugins
WordPress Themes Loved By Over 150k Customers
Premium WordPress Themes by StudioPress
http://press75.com/
Premium Professional WordPress Themes | Theme Trust
WPZOOM
Premium WordPress Themes and WordPress Templates | ThemeFuse
WordPress Templates | Organic Themes
Themify : Awesome WordPress Themes
Business WordPress Themes - BizzThemes
Premium WordPress Plugins at WP Plugins - A plugin marketplace
Themescroller.com - A better way to find wordpress themes
Free WordPress Themes | Facebook Page Editor | WP Themes Free. Generate Leads and Sign Ups on Your WordPress Blog or Website with Leadtheme for WordPress.

I've just copied and pasted that list from my bookmarks, so their could be sites in their that dont work for whatever reason.

You are free to charge whatever you like for your work and still generate a cost profit. By that I mean, that your expenses will be adequately covered by your revenue. This however does not factor in the cost of your time and that's where people undermine their businesses.

You get guys charging a $100 for a site which is fine if the site is done in an hour but it invariably isn't and who pays for all the back and forth.. you do if you don't quote a fair price. When i say fair, im specifically talking about your business. I don't care if the price is fair to me or the customer, my concern is whether its fair to the business.

I used to work the way you are and went through the same frustration with nitpicking clients. This was what I did to combat it. I don't like letting money slip through but I have to be fair to my business.

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I think you were lucky, the sites I've been involved with have always taken at least 2 weeks to get put together. Waiting for content and constantly communicating your needs with clients. I use Freedcamp to manage this aspect of the business. This helps speed things up as business owners can take forever to get back to you with things.

I had one business owner tell me that this week they would focus on opening up a twitter account and then next week they would setup a facebook fanpage. So they needed a whole 2 weeks for what should take less than 5 minutes.

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Keep in mind that you can charge whatever you like for your service and their is no need to box it into some specific price point. I use wordpress to build my sites and would generally include any plugin that provides functionality the client deems necessary.

Bare in mind that in 90% of the cases you are dealing with the same type of plugins for clients. They want to show video's, have a gallery, a like button etc

These things are super simple for us but have a higher perceived worth to the clients.

For my clients, which I charge $1000+, I always provide a responsive theme. I don't see the need to charge them for a mobile site and this adaptive functionality is an important selling point to them that many of my competition will not take advantage of.

To give you an example of cases where I have charged more than $1000.

A client wanted to have multiple languages on the site and have it human translated. I chose the most recommended WordPress plugin on the market and the client provided the translations.

Another example would be a client that wanted an eCommerce solution where I charged plus minus $2000 for the increased functionality and providing a secure environment for their business. I used woocommerce to build this.

I purchase all my sites from WordPress theme markets and I very rarely customize it too much beyond the colors and customer branding. I give them 2 options when I do a proposal for them. I edit out anything that can trace the source of the image to a marketplace or developer to prevent circumvention.

Here are some of the the theme markets I use with themeforest being the most often used of the bunch.

Premium WordPress Themes | Premium Templates | Mojo Themes
WooThemes | Premium WordPress Themes & Plugins
WordPress Themes Loved By Over 150k Customers
Premium WordPress Themes by StudioPress
Premium WordPress Themes by Press75
Premium Professional WordPress Themes | Theme Trust
WPZOOM
Premium WordPress Themes and WordPress Templates | ThemeFuse
WordPress Templates | Organic Themes
Themify : Awesome WordPress Themes
Business WordPress Themes - BizzThemes
Premium WordPress Plugins at WP Plugins - A plugin marketplace
Themescroller.com - A better way to find wordpress themes
Free WordPress Themes | Facebook Page Editor | WP Themes Free. Generate Leads and Sign Ups on Your WordPress Blog or Website with Leadtheme for WordPress.

I've just copied and pasted that list from my bookmarks, so their could be sites in their that dont work for whatever reason.

You are free to charge whatever you like for your work and still generate a cost profit. By that I mean, that your expenses will be adequately covered by your revenue. This however does not factor in the cost of your time and that's where people undermine their businesses.

You get guys charging a $100 for a site which is fine if the site is done in an hour but it invariably isn't and who pays for all the back and forth.. you do if you don't quote a fair price. When i say fair, im specifically talking about your business. I don't care if the price is fair to me or the customer, my concern is whether its fair to the business.

I used to work the way you are and went through the same frustration with nitpicking clients. This was what I did to combat it. I don't like letting money slip through but I have to be fair to my business.



I think you were lucky, the sites I've been involved with have always taken at least 2 weeks to get put together. Waiting for content and constantly communicating your needs with clients. I use Freedcamp to manage this aspect of the business. This helps speed things up as business owners can take forever to get back to you with things.

I had one business owner tell me that this week they would focus on opening up a twitter account and then next week they would setup a facebook fanpage. So they needed a whole 2 weeks for what should take less than 5 minutes.
Thank you for sharing your strategy

I never considered widely that putting lower prices for services could lower your credibilty..I think I will add my rates and see what I happens

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The simple answer is this:

If you are working all day everyday then your prices are to low.

If you are working a few minutes a day then your prices are to high.

Here are some ideas to follow along the way:

the more you build the faster you can.
the faster you can the easier it gets
the easier it gets the more you can do
the more you can do the more money you make
the more money you make the more time off you have
the more time off you have the better your lifestyle.

Paramount, build a very large list of clients. every heard of Walmart? Microsoft? Warren Buffet?

All the above make a little on each sale, they all have millions of customers, the more customers you have the more misstakes you can make before failure of the business. One customer = one mistake = fired!! oh no.

Just saying.....nobody can tell you what to charge. But putting out a price point then saying that you will not work for less is silly, and pompous. Beware of saying what you willl not do.

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I charge $800-$1,000 to build a 4-5 page website - This includes their first year of hosting.

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For a simple 4-5 page site, $750. For a re-design of an existing site, which is my main business, $1,000 to $2,000, depending on complexity. The best part of design, or re-design services is that they open up so many doors for additional services, such as hosting, mobile sites, SEO, autoresponder and newsletter services, test messaging, and so many more. The rapport that you build up with your customers will go along way to making them extremely valuable long term clients.

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I dont know how long you guys have been doing this for? I have experience building websites for about 5 years but I have started doing websites as a business about 6 months ago and I have a terrible time trying to get $500 from someone.

My sites are not terrible either. I have seen a lot of crap sites and I am far from them. I use premium wordpress themes and custom logo designs. My sites are bling and get leads. I have done on page seo tweaks so well that I have immediately hit first page for clients without backlinking. So I think I know what I am doing.

Lately it has been so rough that I have started charging as low as 300$.

What the hell am I not doing that you guys are?
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Is your pricing based on your competition, or the perceived value of your customers? If your competition is charging that little, you most likely have no choice but to sell at a low price. If it is the perceived valule that your customer is putting on a new, lead generating website, you may have to do some educating to you clients.

If that is the going price in your area, remember there is a lot of money to be made in associated services. There are so many other services that you can sell, and if your sites are as good as you say, you should be building up a great reputation and have a list of happy clients. Sometimes the money is not made up front, but on the back end.

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We charge two ways. First is a higher price and thats all they pay unless they want hosting or additional options. Usually $1300 and up

The second is a lower up front $500 and up depending on the site with a monthly fee of $50 and up depending on the site as long as the site is being used. I throw in a couple hours of site maintenance per month along with hosting which usually isn't used. This monthly fee is higher here then if they opt in to the one in option one.

I'm also willing to break the site cost up into payments as well on large projects. I have one highly customized site for $5K that I broke into monthly payments of $1000 a month.
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Never charge hourly, especially to offline clients. Most people build Wordpress websites that don't even take 5-7 hours to make and still charge upwards of $1000. Most clients would probably shun away at the idea of spending $200+ hour. But a $1000 website may not seem that bad to them

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I dont know how long you guys have been doing this for? I have experience building websites for about 5 years but I have started doing websites as a business about 6 months ago and I have a terrible time trying to get $500 from someone.

My sites are not terrible either. I have seen a lot of crap sites and I am far from them. I use premium wordpress themes and custom logo designs. My sites are bling and get leads. I have done on page seo tweaks so well that I have immediately hit first page for clients without backlinking. So I think I know what I am doing.

Lately it has been so rough that I have started charging as low as 300$.

What the hell am I not doing that you guys are?
Well I'm planning to outsource and not do them myself, however this link from Jason Kanigan could really help you with how you can sell your services. It really opened up my eyes to what my real worth could be.
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Thank you so much for that - definitely something to consider!

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I dont know how long you guys have been doing this for? I have experience building websites for about 5 years but I have started doing websites as a business about 6 months ago and I have a terrible time trying to get $500 from someone.

My sites are not terrible either. I have seen a lot of crap sites and I am far from them. I use premium wordpress themes and custom logo designs. My sites are bling and get leads. I have done on page seo tweaks so well that I have immediately hit first page for clients without backlinking. So I think I know what I am doing.

Lately it has been so rough that I have started charging as low as 300$.

What the hell am I not doing that you guys are?
It's all about the value you can portray. I'm sure you have a great portfolio, and make sure to present that. If potential clients notice that you're coming off desperate, they will be hesitant to do business with you.

I'm not sure how you close your clients, but there must be a definite point in time that the client is committed. I take a check for $500 before I even begin working on the website. If you start doing the website before you get that check in your hand, the client will often become very shaky in the business relationship and just change their mind and you will have wasted your time.

If you are only finding clients for $300, you simply aren't reaching out to touch enough people. You are probably working in your limited network. Expand your reach through some of the methods on this forum, including cold calling and walking in on businesses. Introduce yourself in your community and show some confidence that you can be the change they are looking for in their marketing efforts.
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I dont know how long you guys have been doing this for? I have experience building websites for about 5 years but I have started doing websites as a business about 6 months ago and I have a terrible time trying to get $500 from someone.

My sites are not terrible either. I have seen a lot of crap sites and I am far from them. I use premium wordpress themes and custom logo designs. My sites are bling and get leads. I have done on page seo tweaks so well that I have immediately hit first page for clients without backlinking. So I think I know what I am doing.

Lately it has been so rough that I have started charging as low as 300$.

What the hell am I not doing that you guys are?
I face similar issue when first started out ... but not anymore ... basically a site for $800- 1400 is not an issue. To demand higher price don't present yourself as a designer but also a marketer. I'll always advise them how to make their site a tool to sell not only as a eye candy, like "add in header", "call to action " etc etc... they will see you in different light and willing to pay you a higer price. My name card also add in the title "marketing consultant"/ graphic designer. It puts you apart from the rest of graphic designers and much less effort in persude them to spend more money on you . Hop it helps
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Before you throw out any numbers...ask them what their budget is for a website. I usually refrain from being the first to suggest a number since if the client is expecting to spend $2000 on a site and I say $900, that's me losing 1100 potential dollars in revenue.

It's also how you position yourself and your value...like Kaiser mentioned, differentiate yourself from the competition by highlighting the benefits..not the features!

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Before you throw out any numbers...ask them what their budget is for a website. I usually refrain from being the first to suggest a number since if the client is expecting to spend $2000 on a site and I say $900, that's me losing 1100 potential dollars in revenue.

It's also how you position yourself and your value...like Kaiser mentioned, differentiate yourself from the competition by highlighting the benefits..not the features!

Good luck!
I think is an important consideration that I dont take advantage of enough.

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Old 11-05-2012, 06:25 AM   #24
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I think is an important consideration that I dont take advantage of enough.
It's never to late to start Baadier, give it a shot on your next sales pitch

Even asking questions like how much revenue they would like to generate/expect to generate from the website over a years time...

This puts your price in perspective..if a client believes they can get 1 new customer from their website per month and their average transaction is $1000 (just to keep things simple), that's what like $12000 in extra revenue for your client in just 1 years time!

So if you were to even charge $5000 for a site, they're still laughing and making a very, very positive ROI (and that's for years and years going forward!)

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It's never to late to start Baadier, give it a shot on your next sales pitch

Even asking questions like how much revenue they would like to generate/expect to generate from the website over a years time...

This puts your price in perspective..if a client believes they can get 1 new customer from their website per month and their average transaction is $1000 (just to keep things simple), that's what like $12000 in extra revenue for your client in just 1 years time!

So if you were to even charge $5000 for a site, they're still laughing and making a very, very positive ROI (and that's for years and years going forward!)
I agree 100%, I always pitch value and benefits, and the biggest benefit for clients is not "brand exposure" but increased revenue.

I think I should make this a bigger part of my pitches. The business owners I have worked would be salivating if I told them I'd get get them an extra $12000 for $5000.

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This thread rocks!!! I agree with two points: Be a marketer, nobody wants a website, they want more business, more profits, hot showers and cold beer. The second point that really adds up is don't be a generalist.
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It all depends which kind of business. Why? Don't tell me that you would charge the dentist the same as a restaurant lol

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Minimum $600 just for the home page ( Quality design) + $200 for additional page ( + coding)
If you do quality work DON'T LOWER YOUR PRICES!!!! I'm sure you heard local business saying " Oh, you know my friend outsourced it and he got it just for $300"
I told him do you mind if I have a look at your friend's website and I bet you, the website has errors ( coding..etc ) if NOT I will build the website for FREE for YOU? ( sounds rude and risky but that's how it is lol)
He said : Ok, he called him right away ( lol)
I checked the website on my Ipad and W3C validator ( to check the errors right away) Oh well CRAP, 283 errors !!!! Car Dealership

WordPress is amazing as well :-)

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So I just joined here and liking what I am seeing. This is a great thread.
Question...I am a designer, been print designing for years. As far as websites, I have always built them in Photoshop and passed them along to a programmer. I am now looking at Wordpress as an option for some new clients to eliminate the programming cost and do it myself. I will still have the original design option but want to give them a lower price option using a template. Do you recommend telling the client it is Wordpress? and that it is a template that can be modified? Is there anyway that they can tell it is Wordpress?...and does it really matter? Thanks for any feedback!
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They don't care if its wordpress, a template, etc. A lot of them have heard of wordpress but they don't know what it is for the most part. The only item they may care about is that they can log in and edit the content themselves if they chose not to use us to update their content for them. What your asking would similar to someone buying a car wanting to know specific parts about the engine. Your not going to be concerned about that. You just want a good running car that looks good. The same goes for your clients about their websites. If you can give them the site they want with the features and benefits that they need they are not concerned about what the site is made of or how its made.
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They don't care if its wordpress, a template, etc. A lot of them have heard of wordpress but they don't know what it is for the most part. The only item they may care about is that they can log in and edit the content themselves if they chose not to use us to update their content for them. What your asking would similar to someone buying a car wanting to know specific parts about the engine. Your not going to be concerned about that. You just want a good running car that looks good. The same goes for your clients about their websites. If you can give them the site they want with the features and benefits that they need they are not concerned about what the site is made of or how its made.
Thanks for the feedback. Good stuff. Sometimes i give the client too much information. The toughest part for me is not designing or getting work but it is what to charge. Particularly a new client. Probably because I love what I do so much I consider it a hobby some days. I have gotten better at it however. Thanks again.
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Just started offering websites to clients. A friend asked how much for a window washing website. Being a friend I wanted to be fair with him. I can get this site built for $70. I told him I would charge him $150 Found out today he went with a national company that was charging him $1,000 a month.

Realized that even though I was giving him a helluva deal the perceived value was not there. Dont sell yourself too cheap!
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Just started offering websites to clients. A friend asked how much for a window washing website. Being a friend I wanted to be fair with him. I can get this site built for $70. I told him I would charge him $150 Found out today he went with a national company that was charging him $1,000 a month.

Realized that even though I was giving him a helluva deal the perceived value was not there. Dont sell yourself too cheap!
Thanks. So I just offered a site to a new client who called and wanted a small site 4 or 5 pages. New business. I quoted him $825 plus $170 for training him to update it in Wordpress. He sent me an email and said I just went to Wordpress and think I can do it myself. I typically do not take on small clients like this any longer for reasons like this. But he was a friend of a friend. But maybe in the future I do not mention Wordpress? until I need to show them how to update it? My price included the set up of hosting and domain, designing the website, writing the copy, buying stock images, and training the client to update it. $995. No monthly fees. Billed directly from the company. Thoughts?
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Thanks. So I just offered a site to a new client who called and wanted a small site 4 or 5 pages. New business. I quoted him $825 plus $170 for training him to update it in Wordpress. He sent me an email and said I just went to Wordpress and think I can do it myself. I typically do not take on small clients like this any longer for reasons like this. But he was a friend of a friend. But maybe in the future I do not mention Wordpress? until I need to show them how to update it? My price included the set up of hosting and domain, designing the website, writing the copy, buying stock images, and training the client to update it. $995. No monthly fees. Billed directly from the company. Thoughts?
I wouldn't mention Wordpress at all, it isn't relevant. What IS relevant is that you can get visitors to that site and turn those visitors into customers.
I'd always charge a monthly fee for hosting and perhaps 1 hour of technical support if he wants changes to the site (make sure you mention this is usually $50 or so for an hour)... charge like $29/month.
But on the other hand, this client does not seem worth pursuing (sounds like a know-it-all and cheap).
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hey its not about how much you charge, its about how much value can you deliver to your clients. If the value is there than you can charge more.You need to differentiate yourself from the pack, what Bonuses can you give to them for free for them to take your service? Are you providing an after sales service to build a relashionship with them? What other services could you provide to them in addition to website developement, maybe mobile version of website etc. In terms of pricing you can start by benchmarking against your competitors but long term think about the value your delivering

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I wouldn't mention Wordpress at all, it isn't relevant. What IS relevant is that you can get visitors to that site and turn those visitors into customers.
I'd always charge a monthly fee for hosting and perhaps 1 hour of technical support if he wants changes to the site (make sure you mention this is usually $50 or so for an hour)... charge like $29/month.
But on the other hand, this client does not seem worth pursuing (sounds like a know-it-all and cheap).
By mentioning wordpress lost me a job the other day. The guy said no way did he want a wordpress site. He just wanted a simple HTML site. You can tell this guy knows all about it
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