$$$ From In-Person Marketing

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I'd just like to point out of benefits of in-person marketing.

Let's consider what you might be selling locally. Some possibles:

- Hosting
- Web Design
- Online Marketing
- Social Media Management

Hundreds of other products and services exist, but we'll consider those.

The typical local business receives hundreds of emails a year promoting those 4 items. Now and again, they'll even receive direct mail, and perhaps the famous "pen trick." Now, I use email extensively for many purposes (domaining, being one), but you have to know what you're doing. In-person marketing, however - well, that's another story. That face-to-face communication makes the selling process so much easier, infinitely more powerful than an email, an email that can be dismissed by the mere click of a delete button.

If you're attempting to grow a local online business, and you need the cooperation of local offline businesses, I'd suggest this:

1. Target local businesses.
2. Collect Information to personalize your approach.
3. Get some hard-copy promo materials.
4. Walk in and speak to the decision-maker.

Now don't go in all guns blazing and sell. Walk in and adopt a friendly, polite, easy-going demeanor. You're a local business; they're a local business. Speak to them on a level footing and just - for lack of a better word - chat. I honestly don't believe anyone, with a little confidence and a good product and service, could venture out and not bring back some sales. Local businesses are tired of the digital approach. Take your approach to their front door, walk through, and have a friendly, honest-to-goodness chat.

Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesfreddyc
    Originally Posted by Get Rich Methods View Post


    That face-to-face communication makes the selling process so much easier, infinitely more powerful than an email, an email that can be dismissed by the mere click of a delete button.
    That's debatable. If you are trying to sell something in that email, yes of course you will get terrible response rates. However, if your email is engaging them, rather than selling something, you will get very good response rates.

    The task is to transition from the response (a positive result of engaging them) to developing a REAL conversation with them. Again, notice nowhere is there any "sales" going on. It's the same as you mention "don't go all in with guns blazing"....

    ....why should it be any different in an email or in person?

    There are some very effective methods for email marketing, most of which has very little selling involved.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
      Originally Posted by jamesfreddyc View Post

      That's debatable. If you are trying to sell something in that email, yes of course you will get terrible response rates. However, if your email is engaging them, rather than selling something, you will get very good response rates.

      The task is to transition from the response (a positive result of engaging them) to developing a REAL conversation with them. Again, notice nowhere is there any "sales" going on. It's the same as you mention "don't go all in with guns blazing"....

      ....why should it be any different in an email or in person?

      There are some very effective methods for email marketing, most of which has very little selling involved.
      It is debatable, but here's the thing...

      I've been writing promotional emails for around 20 years. I know what I'm doing. If you're a newcomer, the truth is - you don't. But if you're willing to walk in and shoot the breeze to a business owner, you can receive great results without knowing all of the tricks; in fact, it could be debated that the more tricks you know, the less effective you'll be in achieving your goals. Business people, locals, they see through salesmanship very quickly. But if you have a decent product or service and it can genuinely help the business person, all you're doing here is letting them know. Local business men and women like face-to-face, they respond better to it, and their guard is not so strong as it is with a clumsy email or snail mail letter.

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      • Profile picture of the author jamesfreddyc
        Originally Posted by Get Rich Methods View Post

        It is debatable, but here's the thing...

        I've been writing promotional emails for around 20 years. I know what I'm doing. If you're a newcomer, the truth is - you don't. But if you're willing to walk in and shoot the breeze to a business owner, you can receive great results without knowing all of the tricks; in fact, it could be debated that the more tricks you know, the less effective you'll be in achieving your goals. Business people, locals, they see through salesmanship very quickly. But if you have a decent product or service and it can genuinely help the business person, all you're doing here is letting them know. Local business men and women like face-to-face, they respond better to it, and their guard is not so strong as it is with a clumsy email or snail mail letter.

        Tom
        Why is this so hard for people to grasp? For some reason there is this strange mental block towards effective email marketing, even when I spell it out word for word.

        But if you're willing to walk in and shoot the breeze to a business owner, you can receive great results without knowing all of the tricks

        That's what I suggested to do with email.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
          Originally Posted by jamesfreddyc View Post

          Why is this so hard for people to grasp? For some reason there is this strange mental block towards effective email marketing, even when I spell it out word for word.
          It's very easy to grasp. Perhaps you should review the way you communicate the information?

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          • Profile picture of the author jamesfreddyc
            Originally Posted by Get Rich Methods View Post

            It's very easy to grasp. Perhaps you should review the way you communicate the information?

            Tom
            I'm not sure it's possible to be any more clear than I was:

            if your email is engaging them, rather than selling something, you will get very good response rates.
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            • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
              Originally Posted by jamesfreddyc View Post

              I'm not sure it's possible to be any more clear than I was:
              Oh, I see. I assumed you were talking about educating others; the information you imparted was so meager, I assumed you were talking about your attempts to impart complete information to students, members, readers, etc. Given my own abilities and the limited advice above, I dare say I'm not in need of your assistance. I understand. And understood. There is simply a lot more to it than that. I'm understating, of course.

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              • Profile picture of the author jamesfreddyc
                Originally Posted by Get Rich Methods View Post

                I understand. And understood. There is simply a lot more to it than that. I'm understating, of course.

                Tom

                Doubtful. You seem to miss the important parts. You said this in your OP:

                That face-to-face communication makes the selling process so much easier, infinitely more powerful than an email, an email that can be dismissed by the mere click of a delete button.
                Which is just incredibly bad advice to give to anyone. The problem is you are equating email marketing with selling and you seem to have a hard time grasping that what I clearly stated is that in fact it's actually easy to get a good response rate from email by simply doing exactly what you suggested by walking in an chatting with a business owner. Just do it in email instead of face-to-face..

                There really isn't anything more to it than that.
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                • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
                  Originally Posted by jamesfreddyc View Post

                  Doubtful. You seem to miss the important parts. You said this in your OP:



                  Which is just incredibly bad advice to give to anyone. The problem is you are equating email marketing with selling and you seem to have a hard time grasping that what I clearly stated is that in fact it's actually easy to get a good response rate from email by simply doing exactly what you suggested by walking in an chatting with a business owner. Just do it in email instead of face-to-face..

                  There really isn't anything more to it than that.
                  I think we're experiencing communication problems here; not helped by your sour disposition, I must add. I have to say, it is you who is not understanding, grasping the simplicity of what has been said and - rather tiresomely - continues to be said. While for a person like myself, having been in the business for over 20 years, it is easy to receive whatever action I require from most modes of communication (email or otherwise), the newcomer will struggle. The struggle is due to lack of information and the bad reputation of email advertising. Whereas, if the newcomer (I'm pointing at that last word to highlight it for your benefit) were to merely forget selling and chat face-to-face with a local business, they would likely enjoy far more successful results. You seem quite argumentative. Usually a symptom of things not going your way. I do hope 2015 is a more prosperous year for you. Sincerely.

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                  • Profile picture of the author jamesfreddyc
                    Originally Posted by Get Rich Methods View Post

                    Whereas, if the newcomer (I'm pointing at that last word to highlight it for your benefit) were to merely forget selling and chat face-to-face with a local business, they would likely enjoy far more successful results.
                    Tom
                    Last time: that's exactly what I suggested you or anyone do in their email marketing. Just chat with the business owner, except do so in your email campaigns and those campaigns would be wildly MORE successful than just attempting to sell something in an email.

                    This is exactly what I said in my OP and have had to repeat for you. Even still you don't seem to get it or want to get it.

                    Sorry if you don't understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Biz Max
    Here's my thought, do whatever works. Let's ' face' it some people aren't
    great face to face and still do quite well.

    For me, my goal (no matter what way I generated the lead) is to get them
    on the phone. If I get off the phone without closing them I have a 30%
    chance at getting the gig, at best.

    Salesmanship whether verbal or print has a stopwatch on it. They click it
    as soon as you open your mouth. I use email, calls, direct mail. I'd send a
    carrier pigeon if it lead to contact.
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  • Profile picture of the author NetMediaGeek
    A few years ago I was a member of Andrew Cavanaghs Offline Gold forum and this was a simple method he taught. Walk into any business and stike up a conversation with the owner. Don't think of it as selling but one business owner having a conversation with another.
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    • Profile picture of the author jamesfreddyc
      Originally Posted by NetMediaGeek View Post

      A few years ago I was a member of Andrew Cavanaghs Offline Gold forum and this was a simple method he taught. Walk into any business and stike up a conversation with the owner. Don't think of it as selling but one business owner having a conversation with another.
      And how does that conversation starter sound?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
      Originally Posted by NetMediaGeek View Post

      A few years ago I was a member of Andrew Cavanaghs Offline Gold forum and this was a simple method he taught. Walk into any business and stike up a conversation with the owner. Don't think of it as selling but one business owner having a conversation with another.
      That's exactly right. It is, really, where the newcomer can actually shine. A frank discussion is what the average small business owner prefers and warms to the most. On the whole, these are people who distrust our industry, have been inundated with spam, and they often just need a regular ole "shoot the breeze" session to see that we're on the level and only trying to do business like them. It has many applications, too, as mentioned; not just those 4 above. I brought this topic up because I see quite a few newcomers struggling to get offline leads. I know walzing into a business can be a little daunting, but when you realize that it's actually to their benefit that you walked in, and all they usually want is face-time, this can often dispel the nerves.

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