Cold Calling: Shut the F!@# up and GO GET Success. Play to WIN!

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Here's something I see all the time with people new to sales and cold calling as well as the so called 'Veterans' who have rested on their laurels of complacency for YEARS.

Most people are playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

You could say that they have a prevention orientation as opposed to a 'promotion orientation'. Most will look at something like achieving their sales goals, and their thoughts are 'How can I not go broke? How can I sell enough to just scrape by? What's the bare minimum I can get away with?' And because people are thinking this way, they don't even see all the opportunity that's in front of them. And I mean they literally can't make sense of a situation when it could double or triple their sales for that month, because they're focusing on 'Just getting by' or coping in business. That's their selective focus so that's what they see. On a micro level, when someone is in that mindset of prevention they won't be nearly as relentless or as a creative in a sales situation. Most will just give up when the prospect or deal becomes too hard to win. They aren't mentally prepared to have nothing to lose and take it all the way no matter what as if they had a gun pointed to their head.

This is the biggest difference people I see when it comes to sales. The people that earn the most are the sharks, the wolves that will close and sell no matter what. If you don't push and go after what you want aggressively then you will end up with NOTHING. You can't even be 90% committed to your course of action, you must have the mentality that you are going to do this no matter what and MAKE IT HAPPEN.

This is the unvarnished truth that no one really wants to hear. The thing is that the person is going to buy from somebody if they're at least interested. And they're not going to wait for the most self-actualized salesperson giving them the best deal, despite what they might say to you. The person they'll buy from is the one who tries to make it happen no matter what.
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  • Profile picture of the author joe golfer
    Hey, man, I'd don't rest on my laurels, I rest on my big fat butt.

    OK, I'm kidding around.

    Here's what I can add to your post: You are right, many (most?) play not to lose.

    And winners play to win.

    However, my extensive research into the mindset of champions reveals another level.

    True champions play knowing they are going to win.

    It's a subtle difference, and comes after years of focus, but once there you are very, very hard to beat.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimmcdonald909
    In all seriousness this can lead to fraud/miss-selling/brand damage.

    Why not make your offer....see if they want in or not? Answer their concerns/questions best you can but beyond that why "close the sale at all costs?" \this is more in their line of boiler room scams than real business.

    The people that earn the most are the sharks, the wolves that will close and sell no matter what.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matthew North
      Originally Posted by jimmcdonald909 View Post

      In all seriousness this can lead to fraud/miss-selling/brand damage.

      Why not make your offer....see if they want in or not? Answer their concerns/questions best you can but beyond that why "close the sale at all costs?" this is more in their line of boiler room scams than real business.
      From your point of view I can understand how it looks when I say 'Close the sale at all costs'. It makes you think of a self-interested rep only selling for commission with no regard or empathy for the client. I would think the same thing.

      The thing is, is that if you've listened to their concerns, became their friend and have a genuine interest in helping them solve their problem, then you've earned the right to make a recommendation and close the sale. If you know that your product can really help the client then you're entitled to sell them on it absolutely even if they're on the fence. In fact, if you're not persistent enough then the client rationalizes that you didn't really care about their problems to begin with, or what you were selling was garbage. If you knew 100% that your product was the ideal fit then only thing to do which makes sense is to persist until they make the right decision by buying. It's the equivalent to pushing them out of the way of a speeding car. You care that much about them and know you have a great product.

      Most of the time people just want to stay inside their comfort zones and take the path of least resistance by doing nothing. The status quo is your biggest competitor in this, so in order to win you must be persistent and creative. You're also the first person to push and the first to back off if they're certain they're not buying. It's not about being pushy; it's doing a service for the prospect by inspiring and leading them to making a great decision IF there is a genuine fit.

      The most common mistake I've made in sales and seen from others is that they don't want to push the sale because we think we'll risk losing it. We want to take it slow and easy and let the prospect completely control how they buy. We don't want to risk putting them off by being seen as pushy or manipulative. This is a valid point if our prospect absolutely can't use or wants our product, but at the end of a meeting once you both know the product is a good fit then giving up here is completely inexcusable. You risk far more by being scared of losing the sale here and scheduling a callback than pushing for a firm decision on the first call. You never 'had' the prospect to begin with, in other words you have nothing to lose by taking the sale as far as you can you can only gain. Again, it depends if you coming from a 'Prevention orientation' where you see everything that can go wrong, or a 'Promotion orientation' where you can see all the upsides and positives. It's the difference in thinking between 'I'll risk the sale if I go too hard', and 'This person needs what I'm selling. Selling is a great decision. I'm going to inspire this person to buy even in the face of their objections. I'm going to win. Gun to the head, play to win no matter what.'
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Maybe Im crazy Matthew but a few months ago you were saying in 10 different posts that "pushing" for the close is bad, applying pressure...and that you didnt even like rebuttals. Are these all new epiphanies?
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    • Profile picture of the author Matthew North
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      Maybe Im crazy Matthew but a few months ago you were saying in 10 different posts that "pushing" for the close is bad, applying pressure...and that you didnt even like rebuttals. Are these all new epiphanies?
      It's hard to describe subtleties in sales but I'm working on it.

      For instance, you are 'pushing' but the prospect doesn't perceive you are being pushy or feeling pressure. Backing off until you sense they are about to say 'No.'

      I still don't like the idea of a traditional rebuttal because it feels salesy and not consultative.

      I wouldn't say that this epiphany discredits the earlier beliefs because they can and do exist simultaneously. Again, it's a subtlety, a paradox which sounds weird to explain. I've never wanted to write in simple truths because they are a lazy and inaccurate frame of viewing things.
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    • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      Maybe Im crazy Matthew but a few months ago you were saying in 10 different posts that "pushing" for the close is bad, applying pressure...and that you didnt even like rebuttals. Are these all new epiphanies?
      When a infant sees a broken stick on the ground he only knows it's a stick
      because someone told him so.

      Eventually he picks up the stick and knocks some stuff around, draws in the dirt
      or maybe he throws it ... His whole perception changes ....
      now he knows it's also a toy.

      Fast forward - he learns a stick can be used as a tool.
      Add a few more life experiences and he learns a stick is also a weapon.

      The more experience you have the more your perception of the stick evolves.

      I believe the path of learning sales, is exactly the same.

      Every step of the "learning sales" journey is filled with mini epiphanies...
      No epiphanies = no growth.

      Edit:
      I just reread what I wrote - wow - it sounds pretentious!
      O well, I am leaving it.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    I think you are talking more about just having a killer attitude of getting down and doing the work more than pressuring customers... Yeah rebuttals can be very covert.... Just trying to create some clarity. I see what you mean.

    You do have to have the hardcore attitude that "I am going to absolutely going to shut the door in this room and I am not coming out till I have appointments or sales!", and be very committed to that. It isnt easy being your own boss. It takes some serious commitment..
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    • Profile picture of the author Matthew North
      Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

      I think you are talking more about just having a killer attitude of getting down and doing the work more than pressuring customers... Yeah rebuttals can be very covert.... Just trying to create some clarity. I see what you mean.

      You do have to have the hardcore attitude that "I am going to absolutely going to shut the door in this room and I am not coming out till I have appointments or sales!", and be very committed to that. It isnt easy being your own boss. It takes some serious commitment..

      I think the killer attitude is the perfect description of what I'm talking about except on a micro-scale. How you turn up to one meeting is usually how you turn up to every meeting.
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  • Profile picture of the author qu4rk
    Originally Posted by Matthew North View Post

    Most people are playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

    You could say that they have a prevention orientation as opposed to a 'promotion orientation'. Most will look at something like achieving their sales goals, and their thoughts are 'How can I not go broke? How can I sell enough to just scrape by? What's the bare minimum I can get away with?'
    Well said.

    Originally Posted by Matthew North View Post

    The person they'll buy from is the one who tries to make it happen no matter what.
    I've had people who have thanked me for my persistence...literally. Or people who have said, the reason I chose you is because you were persistent.

    I think some people may misinterpret what you're posting, but I think it's money. In a nutshell you're saying you have to be hungry, even when you get "success", stay hungry.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    Doesnt really sound pretentious Ken, sounds like you are trying to illustrate the point with pictures, and doing a good job of it.

    These hard core "Shut The F*** Up And Dial" threads dont gain much popularity for a person, and they are always met with some BS... Someone spouting from inexperience.... But they are absolutely the truth. This is what any beginning offline salesperson needs to know.

    Even if you only dial 100 numbers per day.... You gotta do it in a committed way, and just shut up all the other thoughts and dial. If you cant make it through the rejection, then the prize isnt for you.

    Neither is it if you cant make it through more than one session.

    Better be an SEO expert. (Who is also a sales expert). Either that or have some hot JV partner up your sleeve. Still you have to sell.
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