Website builders: do you offer a free draft design?

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Hi website-builders,

Do any of you offer a free draft design to website prospects, the idea being that you make enough from those that take you up on the draft, to cover your losses?

I have a lot of people ask me if I can do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author LoneAscent
    I tried this a few times but didn't see much of a difference in conversion rates. I like to offer a money-back guarantee instead, which will allow them a refund if they don't like the site. I ask for 50% upfront to make sure they're not wasting my time and deliver a high quality product so they don't even think about asking for a refund. This serves to make sure the buyers are serious but gives them a sense of security that helps close the deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    No. They get 3 revisions but we do a lot of talking and checking so they're almost always happy with the first version.

    Something else to remember: who's the expert here?

    I wouldn't want to clog up my pipeline and my time with tire-kickers.
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      I have and do this from time to time. For me personally, I only work with pre set templates to begin with, so adjusting color and design elements and tossing in a logo is not such a big deal.
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    • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
      Originally Posted by Scott Stevens View Post

      Hi website-builders,

      Do any of you offer a free draft design to website prospects, the idea being that you make enough from those that take you up on the draft, to cover your losses?

      I have a lot of people ask me if I can do this.
      No.

      Something you are saying or doing is leading them to ask that question.

      Originally Posted by LoneAscent View Post

      I tried this a few times but didn't see much of a difference in conversion rates. I like to offer a money-back guarantee instead, which will allow them a refund if they don't like the site. I ask for 50% upfront to make sure they're not wasting my time and deliver a high quality product so they don't even think about asking for a refund. This serves to make sure the buyers are serious but gives them a sense of security that helps close the deal.
      Hell no ...

      That's a good way to waste your time and effort. I guarantee that, that will bite you in
      the ass one day. You maybe thinking ... well it's worked so far. That's the rub - it works...
      right up until it doesn't and then your screwed.


      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      No. They get 3 revisions but we do a lot of talking and checking so they're almost always happy with the first version.

      Something else to remember: who's the expert here?

      I wouldn't want to clog up my pipeline and my time with tire-kickers.
      Bingo
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      • Profile picture of the author TheShark
        In 3 Words... "Don't Do It"...

        Now, instead have a notebook and a tablet.

        The notebook - a printout copy of a website on the left side pages and a testimonials to go with the website on the right side pages.

        If they want, you then show them the same pages on tablet...only AFTER seeing the notebook with the testimonials...to show them it's responsive and whatever else you are selling them on.

        Almost anyone that is asking for a free preview is NOT going to be a good customer.

        Finally, as already mentioned....give them a money back guarantee and a number of revisions during the process.

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  • Profile picture of the author quadagon
    Originally Posted by Scott Stevens View Post

    Hi website-builders,

    Do any of you offer a free draft design to website prospects, the idea being that you make enough from those that take you up on the draft, to cover your losses?

    I have a lot of people ask me if I can do this.
    As an agency we position ourselves to attract a certain type of client. A client that accepts our specialist knowledge and has the resources to pay.

    We are an integrated marketing agency (with a very rare speciality) so we have no interest in just being your web designer we want control of the sales process.

    One of the reasons we expanded into webdesign is because web designers suck.

    Almost without exception they come from a coding or graphic design background and ultimately end up creating pritty baubels for customers.

    Ask a web designer why they've done something on a website and they can't give you an answer. For example:

    Why have you used a three column design design instead of two or one?

    Or

    Why are to social icons at the top of the website?

    Generally this is because they are bothered about the athestic.

    Another reason is that in today's society anybody can call themselves a web designer.

    I've seen people use free WordPress themes as 'proof' they are a web designer.

    It's important to separate yourself from the spotty teenagers and charletens otherwise you are on a race to the bottom.

    I really think that part of our success is that we've differentiated ourselves from web designers.

    We are not a web design agency but marketing specialists.

    As a result it's really important to us to understand the clients business and what they want the site to do.

    A plumber will have little interest in an e-commerce solution. More suitable will be a one page site with a call me now button which is mobile enabled (alongside local seo).

    Through the consulation process our advisor and the client create a wireframe for the site. The frame includes basic graphics,logos etc.

    It takes next to no time doing this with a graphics package and some templates.

    At the end of the initial consultation the client is shown a wireframe mock up of their site. This works really well for us.

    By using this method we've managed to:
    • increase conversion rate (both overall and first time sales)
    • speed up turn around time
    • almost eliminate revisions

    Because the client has been involved in the creation of the site and can see something tangible then closing the sale becomes much easier.

    I would imagine that creating a draft site would be the worst of all worlds. You'd lack either the client input or the imedicacy of the sale.

    If this is coming up regularly then I would advise you look at your pitch. It sounds like you are putting doubt in the prospects mind.

    I'm quite a cheeky salesman (in a humouress way) so if someone asked me the same I'd asked them for a free sample of their work 'sure you can have a draft website just come around and fix my leaky tap'

    A good portfolio and strong testimonials would also help.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by Scott Stevens View Post

    Hi website-builders,

    Do any of you offer a free draft design to website prospects, the idea being that you make enough from those that take you up on the draft, to cover your losses?

    I have a lot of people ask me if I can do this.
    Not real web designers, anyway
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  • Profile picture of the author syaf
    Unless it's part of your marketing effort - don't waste so much time giving out free draft to someone who is not your client yet.

    Instead, work on your portfolio. If your prospect like what you did to other business, they will interested to find out what you can make to theirs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Nguyen
    Free 15 min consultation, then yes but a free website draft and not knowing if they will buy is a bad use of time. You will take maybe 30mins to an hour doing that.

    If you must do it, make sure you qualify properly and find out why they would even allow you to do it. If you get good signals then maybe even as a refundable deposit for a 10th of the charge and then get to work.

    Free can be bad in the marketing services world.
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  • Profile picture of the author savidge4
    Something to think about...

    Everything around us is visual. There is a reason YouTube is as used as it is, People like to see things. Integrate personalization in the presentation, and often it becomes a game changer.

    Websites by default are visual. Calling on the phone and saying hey I can make you a website that does this and that is one thing - leading a prospect to a personalized "presentation" site is a totally different thing. In Real Estate there are cues that indicate interest in a property... web design is no different. The moment a prospect starts asking, can we change this or that... indicates interest, and cues the ability to maybe push a soft close effort.

    A visual presentation of a site mach up can be more than just a visual representation of your work - there can be a fair amount of phycology at play. When you are talking to a business owner - his / her pride and joy is THAT business. They more than likely have everything on the line. Every day is sink or swim.

    IF you can identify and present that business in a web page format that meets or exceeds the owners ideals and expectations, you will stand a chance at closing the deal. If you throw up crap... well your not going to get to far with the process.

    Like any other presentation, be it cold calling mass e-mail face to face etc its not the method that fails,it is how the method is executed.

    Draft design DOES work, if executed correctly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robscom
    So would it make sense to target a certain industry (so that they have the same basic needs for a site), make a few generic mockups and use those to show clients?

    You couldn't do this with wildly different niches, but if you stuck to one niche, it might work?

    Just a thought.
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      Robscom... I am not directing any of this at you specifically, its just this mentality that niches are different... A website is a website. Any "niche" in the construction industry all need the same thing.. its the same thing that Doctors Lawyers and physical therapist for that matter need. they need the end user to fill out a form or to pick up the phone.

      When you break down specifically the types of sites one might build for business' in general there are 3 types. There are lead gen type sites, there are more location driven sites ( meaning local store that wants people in the doors ) and then there is commerce sites. Forget the niche and look for the function... Form follows function.. add a logo change some colors and go.

      Originally Posted by Robscom View Post

      So would it make sense to target a certain industry (so that they have the same basic needs for a site), make a few generic mockups and use those to show clients?

      You couldn't do this with wildly different niches, but if you stuck to one niche, it might work?

      Just a thought.
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      • Profile picture of the author Robscom
        Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

        Robscom... I am not directing any of this at you specifically, its just this mentality that niches are different... A website is a website. Any "niche" in the construction industry all need the same thing.. its the same thing that Doctors Lawyers and physical therapist for that matter need. they need the end user to fill out a form or to pick up the phone.

        When you break down specifically the types of sites one might build for business' in general there are 3 types. There are lead gen type sites, there are more location driven sites ( meaning local store that wants people in the doors ) and then there is commerce sites. Forget the niche and look for the function... Form follows function.. add a logo change some colors and go.
        Ah. I think I used the wrong wording. (It sounded better in my head! LOL) I meant that by targeting a certain industry, you'd have the same type of site. (For example, a plumber doesn't need an e-commerce site).

        But you explained it much better than I did, so thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrickyDick
    Originally Posted by Scott Stevens View Post

    Hi website-builders,

    Do any of you offer a free draft design to website prospects, the idea being that you make enough from those that take you up on the draft, to cover your losses?

    I have a lot of people ask me if I can do this.
    I did initially...... I don't anymore.

    Why?

    Once you offer your time and expertise without any charge, your status nosedives in the prospect's mind. You don't value your time and expertise. Why should they?

    Do the top Divorce Attorneys give away "free consultations?" Do the top Orthopedic Surgeons give away "free exams?" No.... and..... No.

    I think the best way is to sell "Roadmaps" as Brennan Dunn advocates in his "Double Your Freelancing" program. If they don't have a "small amount" to invest in a "Roadmap," they don't have the money to fund the entire project.
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